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Tannehill is going to join the next tier this season.
Nice, you killed it. Only thing of value you really gave up was the 2016 1st and you got back some nice pieces with big potential.12 team, PPR, 30 roster spots, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST
Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd, Brandon LaFell, Khiry Robinson
Got: Devante Adams, Gio Bernard, Duke Johnson
Nice deal12 team, PPR, 30 roster spots, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST
Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd, Brandon LaFell, Khiry Robinson
Got: Devante Adams, Gio Bernard, Duke Johnson
Gurley is an expensive guy to draft apparently.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 1st
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
Personally, I would not do that deal even if you took out the 2016 1st.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 1st
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
I agree. Guys in my league always worry too much about handcuffs imo. I would rather Melvin Gordon be my backup plan if Gurley goes down than mason. I can understand wanting to protect a big investment. I just think Evil G paid the highest possible price to do it. But I won't knock his style. I just play differently.Sometimes you have to take a step back and realize that your trade target isn't all that important.
You went from a choice of Gordon, Cooper or one of the QBs to 3rd pick in the next tier of prospects and your benefit was to get to move up 7 spots in the second... Ok, not terrible, but still not that great. Then the 2016 first for a handcuff. Not sure which pick was originally yours, the 1st or 4th, but either way your team must not be that strong and considering the RB you just traded all your assets to protect may not contribute much this season... Ouch
Helu12 team PPR Blockbuster trade:
Team A gets Roy Helu RB OAK
Team B gets Steven Gostowski K NEP
I think you overpaid for a handcuff.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 1st
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
Well done12 team, PPR, 30 roster spots, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST
Gave: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd, Brandon LaFell, Khiry Robinson
Got: Devante Adams, Gio Bernard, Duke Johnson
Apologies for my idiocy. I was essentially running out the door and distracted by my wife when posting this.Gurley is an expensive guy to draft apparently.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 3rd
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
Perfectly reasonable for me with a 3rd.Apologies for my idiocy. I was essentially running out the door and distracted by my wife when posting this.Gurley is an expensive guy to draft apparently.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 3rd
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
The 2016 pick I gave was a 3rd rounder.
According to another poster here, I still paid too much. But yes, a third.
In a full IDP I think that's a good trade for you. Not sure where your league values the defensive guys but you probably trade a WR that might never come back for a rookie who you could start from week 1.12 team ppr idp dynasty QRRWWWT,Flex,K DL,DL,LB,LB,LB,DB,DB,D Flex
Gave Josh Gordon
Got 2.8
I went back and forth on the offer, ultimately it came down to that I don't think Gordon gets reinstated.
IDP rookies start going off the board in the 2nd. 3 defensive guys in 2014 2.6,2.7,2.9. In 2013 2 IDPs went 2.4 and 2.5. Last year there were 11 IDPs in the top 50, QBs included(17 in top 50).In a full IDP I think that's a good trade for you. Not sure where your league values the defensive guys but you probably trade a WR that might never come back for a rookie who you could start from week 1.12 team ppr idp dynasty QRRWWWT,Flex,K DL,DL,LB,LB,LB,DB,DB,D Flex
Gave Josh Gordon
Got 2.8
I went back and forth on the offer, ultimately it came down to that I don't think Gordon gets reinstated.
Picksnon-ppr, non-IDP, traditional scoring
Team A receives: CJ Anderson, 2016 3rd
for
Team B receives: 2015 1.10, 2016 1st and 2016 2nd
Picks side and not close. I don't think I would give up 1.4 for 1.8 and Mason.Personally, I would not do that deal even if you took out the 2016 1st.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 1st
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
The 2016 was actually a 3rd which makes it much close for mePicks side and not close. I don't think I would give up 1.4 for 1.8 and Mason.Personally, I would not do that deal even if you took out the 2016 1st.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 1st
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
Thank you for correcting this OMR. I didn't want to perpetuate a storm of critiques based on a mistaken key stroke.The 2016 was actually a 3rd which makes it much close for mePicks side and not close. I don't think I would give up 1.4 for 1.8 and Mason.Personally, I would not do that deal even if you took out the 2016 1st.12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 3rd
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Tre Mason
I'll be drafting Gurley with the 1.01 and wanted Mason as a 'cuff
Sure, pretty big if though. No? Granted, if he is the Broncos Arian Foster then he is worth more than that.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price. ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
Agreed. Getting 2 1sts and a 2nd for Anderson is taking the sure triple. No need to try to roll the dice trying to stretch it into an inside the park HR. For every Foster, there are a handful of Zac Stacys.sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price. ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
if you picked him up cheap before he exploded, a huge gift fell in your lap. Don't be greedy.
Sanders but Wilson alone could make that a great trade.tdmills said:14 team devy dynasty
Team A got: e. Sanders
Team B got: Quick, M. Davis, c. Artis-Payne, De'runnya Wilson, $175 bb (1000 allotted to each team)
Team b won the title in 2014, team a was the points champ for context.
A-Rob and WatkinsQRRWWWT 2 flex (W/R/T) full PPR not involved
Team A gives:
1.05, 1.11, 2.02, and ladarius green
Team B gives:
Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins
Wright and #310 team IDP dynasty.
A gives #2 pick and Spiller
B gives #3 pick, J Stew, Kendall Wright, and DB Barry Church
Team in question picked him up off waivers last year.sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price.ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
if you picked him up cheap before he exploded, a huge gift fell in your lap. Don't be greedy.
Agreed. Getting 2 1sts and a 2nd for Anderson is taking the sure triple. No need to try to roll the dice trying to stretch it into an inside the park HR. For every Foster, there are a handful of Zac Stacys.sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price.ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
if you picked him up cheap before he exploded, a huge gift fell in your lap. Don't be greedy.
Assuming late picks they aren't that valuable. CJA was the #2 RB in PPG (and #4 overall fantasy player) from week 10 on last year and Kubiak appears to be an upgrade for him.Agreed. Getting 2 1sts and a 2nd for Anderson is taking the sure triple. No need to try to roll the dice trying to stretch it into an inside the park HR. For every Foster, there are a handful of Zac Stacys.sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price.ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
if you picked him up cheap before he exploded, a huge gift fell in your lap. Don't be greedy.
I totally agree about CJ Anderson being no sure thing, but if he keeps up how he played last year, he'll be a great PPR back. Last 8 games he averaged 3.75 receptions, which would be 60 on a 16 game year. That would've put him at #4 last year, behind only Forte, Bell, and FJax (though well behind Forte with 102 and Bell with 83), and just ahead of Demarco Murray. So while PPR might devalue RBs a bit, I think it would only bump him up relative to other RBs, ya know?Sure, pretty big if though. No? Granted, if he is the Broncos Arian Foster then he is worth more than that.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
I think that is a pretty big package for him, but I am used to PPR setups. He is obviously worth more in non-ppr setups. I guess that is in the reasonable range of value for non-PPR. Just my 2 cents.
Yep, I'm definitely one of the owners that missed out on Foster. Alfred Morris too for that matter. But I'm also the guy that has completely avoided overpaying for countless un-pedigreed flavors-of-the-month that amounted to squat over the years. It's a double-edged sword for sure.Assuming late picks they aren't that valuable. CJA was the #2 RB in PPG (and #4 overall fantasy player) from week 10 on last year and Kubiak appears to be an upgrade for him.Agreed. Getting 2 1sts and a 2nd for Anderson is taking the sure triple. No need to try to roll the dice trying to stretch it into an inside the park HR. For every Foster, there are a handful of Zac Stacys.sure, and he might be. the guy trading for him is paying close to full price to find out. it would obviously be great to have picked up an elite player like that off waivers or at least very cheap. But it's also great to pick up a third string running back, watch him explode in the second half of the season, then get two fists and a second as an exit price.ask a ray rice owner how much he liked having the Kubiak running back last year. OK, that's not fair, Ask the Bernard pierce owner instead. Or the Taliaferro owner. There is no guarantee that cj Anderson even starts another game in his career. He definitely has big upside, but he's got huge bust potential.If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
if you picked him up cheap before he exploded, a huge gift fell in your lap. Don't be greedy.
I get the 'cashing out' idea but I wonder what RB with CJA youth and potential you can get with those picks.
To me this is exactly like Foster after 2010 and few people really believed in because he wasn't drafted.
It wasn't/isnt.Why was it more important for you to get a backup RB over Mariota, Winston, or Cooper?
It's Superflex, how are Mariota and Winston lasting that late? You draft Gurley/Cooper/Mariota/Winston 1-4 and you probably own that league for years to come.
Yeah that makes sense to me but I wouldn't be shocked at all to see guys overpaying a little bit to move up if the QB's are around @ 4-7Evil G said:12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts - no salary
Gave: 1.04, 2.09, 2016 3rd
Got: 1.08, 2.02, Mason
It wasn't/isnt.cstu said:Why was it more important for you to get a backup RB over Mariota, Winston, or Cooper?
The total context: I had the 1.01 through 1.04, plus the 1.09. I intend to draft Gurley, Gordon and Cooper with the 1,2,3
Now, the 4 through 7 will likely go White, Abdullah, Yeldon plus one wildcard, considering the needs/wants of those teams.
This leaves two of Winston/Mariota/Agholor/Parker/Perriman at the 8 and 9. I then get a nice player at 14.
In my head, I get a comparable player at 1.08 relative to 1.04 (I was going one of the QBs there), upgrade my 2nd rounder, and get Mason for a 2016 3rd.
Agreed. Wasn't a shot at his PPR chops, just that the format devalues RBs.blardorg said:I totally agree about CJ Anderson being no sure thing, but if he keeps up how he played last year, he'll be a great PPR back. Last 8 games he averaged 3.75 receptions, which would be 60 on a 16 game year. That would've put him at #4 last year, behind only Forte, Bell, and FJax (though well behind Forte with 102 and Bell with 83), and just ahead of Demarco Murray. So while PPR might devalue RBs a bit, I think it would only bump him up relative to other RBs, ya know?cdubz said:Sure, pretty big if though. No? Granted, if he is the Broncos Arian Foster then he is worth more than that.cstu said:If CJA is the Broncos' Arian Foster he's easily worth two late 1st's and a late 2nd.bostonfred said:if you can get two firsts and a second for a guy with basically zero acquisition cost, you do it. This could easily be the high water mark of his trade value. See what you can get.
I think that is a pretty big package for him, but I am used to PPR setups. He is obviously worth more in non-ppr setups. I guess that is in the reasonable range of value for non-PPR. Just my 2 cents.
Personally I would take the picks hoping one of the top 4 fallshady inc said:QRRWWWT 2 flex (W/R/T) full PPR not involved
Team A gives:
1.05, 1.11, 2.02, and ladarius green
Team B gives:
Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins
Robinson and Sammyshady inc said:QRRWWWT 2 flex (W/R/T) full PPR not involved
Team A gives:
1.05, 1.11, 2.02, and ladarius green
Team B gives:
Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins
MurrayDr. Octopus said:12 team ppr QB - 2RB - 3 WR - TE - FL
DeMarco Murray
for
Russell Wilson and 1.08
Yep, pretty cheap in the long run.Robinson and Sammyshady inc said:QRRWWWT 2 flex (W/R/T) full PPR not involved
Team A gives:
1.05, 1.11, 2.02, and ladarius green
Team B gives:
Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins
Depends on the roster, but think I might go Wilson + 1.08 in most (read: building) situations.MurrayDr. Octopus said:12 team ppr QB - 2RB - 3 WR - TE - FL
DeMarco Murray
for
Russell Wilson and 1.08
Carr side all dayMainevent said:12 Team, IDP-PPR-Dynasty (53 man rosters)- QRRWWWT and Superflex
Gave: Jay Cutler, Derek Carr, 1.11 (Abdullah), 2016 1st (projected mid round), 2016 2nd (projected end of round)
Got: Matt Stafford, 2.09 (Sammie Coates), 3.09 (traded along with 4.04 to get Justin Hardy @ 3.04), 4.09 (Matt Jones), 5.09 (Rashad Greene), 6.09 (Karlos Williams)
Both teams contending.
Watkins and Robinsonshady inc said:QRRWWWT 2 flex (W/R/T) full PPR not involved
Team A gives:
1.05, 1.11, 2.02, and ladarius green
Team B gives:
Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins