dgreen
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Head-to-head, division record, then common opponents. Conference record is 4th. I think that changed a couple years ago.
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**Official** 2015 Washington Redskins Thread YOU LIKE THAT! (2 Viewers)
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Brunell4MVP
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Players usually have a decent idea what is coming when an audible is called There are only so many audibles out of each formation depending on the defense, and the players see them on film during the week. It's more a question of execution, and hopefully the other team didn't put in a new wrinkle, which they don't have much time to do during the season.My gawd. These people are coaching in the NFL? 'Hey, lets trick them by using 'prison' instead of 'folsom'.
MattFancy
Footballguy
DeSean Jackson - WR - Redskins
DeSean Jackson (knee) said he is not sure he will be ready for Week 15 against the Bills.
"I don’t know," Jackson said in the locker room afterward. "We’ll see how the week progresses. Got to get some treatment." Jackson stayed in after taking a hard hit to his knee late Week 14 win over the Bears, but he was seen on the sidelines trying to stretch the knee out between possessions. His status will be updated by Wednesday at the latest.
DeSean Jackson (knee) said he is not sure he will be ready for Week 15 against the Bills.
"I don’t know," Jackson said in the locker room afterward. "We’ll see how the week progresses. Got to get some treatment." Jackson stayed in after taking a hard hit to his knee late Week 14 win over the Bears, but he was seen on the sidelines trying to stretch the knee out between possessions. His status will be updated by Wednesday at the latest.
dgreen
Footballguy
Yeah, it's fine to say it was "ill-advised" but I didn't have a huge problem with attempting that pass. First, I was elated that Cousins scrambled and moved around to buy time. He doesn't always do that. Second, it was a jump ball to Reed. If I was throwing a jump ball to anyone on the team, Reed would be the guy. Third, a first down there was big for running off more time, so worth taking some kind of shot to try and put the game away.
Cousins has gone from making horrible INTs to probably playing things too safely recently. I was happy to see him try to make something happen.
dgreen
Footballguy
On the season, the Bears are giving up 125.7 yards rushing per game and 4.7 yards per rush attempt. The Redskins only managed 99 total rushing yards on 33 carries (3.0 yards per carry). Pathetic.
At this point, I might be in favor of just going spread formation with short passes as our de facto run game.
MattFancy
Footballguy
It was definitely ill-advised. He threw a jump ball in the middle of the field while scrambling one way and throwing the other way. Luckily, nothing bad happened on that play because he would be getting crushed for it and rightfully so.
Shat...we've lost another Tight End for the Year (Derek Carrier):
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/14/washington-tight-end-derek-carrier-tears-aclmcl/
That is three tight ends lost for the year, along with Paul and Paulsen.
Ironically, Jordan Reed is last man standing. Wrap your head around that one.
Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/14/washington-tight-end-derek-carrier-tears-aclmcl/
That is three tight ends lost for the year, along with Paul and Paulsen.
Ironically, Jordan Reed is last man standing. Wrap your head around that one.
Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
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dhockster
Footballguy
Locker? If he had his way he would sharing a shower stall with him.Shat...we've lost another Tight End for the Year (Derek Carrier):
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/14/washington-tight-end-derek-carrier-tears-aclmcl/
That is three tight ends lost for the year, along with Paul and Paulsen.
Ironically, Jordan Reed is last man standing. Wrap your head around that one.
Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Jackson's constant injury status makes me think he is totally not worth the money next year. Yea, he stretches the field for the handful of games he's out there. Unfortunately he's rarely out there.
I know one of the officials on Ron's crew and I asked about this play. He said their ruling on the field was a dead play, no fumble. I know the official stats say otherwise.
fatness
Footballguy
The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
Insein
Footballguy
Sounds like our radio guys. They want to trade Chip to Tennessee for two first rounders last week. Now we're super bowl bound again. Gotta love it.The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I'm so tired of Cooley #####ing about not being signed by the team. He's also tried out for the Cardinals and Giants and they didn't want him either.The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
Cooley hasn't played since 2012 and even then, he wasn't that good at that point. His last relevant season was back in 2010.
I love that he's basically taking shots at McCloughan for not signing a 33y/o TE who hasn't been in the league the last 2+ seasons.
It's insane. Actually, it makes me sad. When Cooley was playing, I really liked him. He was a hard nosed, dependable team guy who was like one shining star in the middle of all those losing seasons. And he never stopped being a "Redskins guy" even through the dysfunction. There was a lot to like about Cooley. He gave his body for the team and that ultimately caused his retirement.I'm so tired of Cooley #####ing about not being signed by the team. He's also tried out for the Cardinals and Giants and they didn't want him either.The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
Cooley hasn't played since 2012 and even then, he wasn't that good at that point. His last relevant season was back in 2010.
I love that he's basically taking shots at McCloughan for not signing a 33y/o TE who hasn't been in the league the last 2+ seasons.
But this is what happens when "you can't let go." Dude, you were a very good player in your day and beloved by Redskins fans. Don't ruin it now with all this whining and lobbying.
It makes me sad because despite all the Cooley jokes I'm sure a lot of us on this board loved him as a player and held him in high esteem at the time.
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MattFancy
Footballguy
Loved Cooley as a player. But I agree with the "let it go" part. Like I mentioned above, his last relevant season was 2010. That's forever ago in football years. And his last 4 seasons saw 1 healthy year. Sure, it's only 3 games, but what does he really have to offer at this point? We need a TE who can block and be a receiving threat. Can Cooley really be an asset as a blocker at this point?It's insane. Actually, it makes me sad. When Cooley was playing, I really liked him. He was a hard nosed, dependable team guy who was like one shining star in the middle of all those losing seasons. And he never stopped being a "Redskins guy" even through the dysfunction. There was a lot to like about Cooley. He gave his body for the team and that ultimately caused his retirement.I'm so tired of Cooley #####ing about not being signed by the team. He's also tried out for the Cardinals and Giants and they didn't want him either.The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
Cooley hasn't played since 2012 and even then, he wasn't that good at that point. His last relevant season was back in 2010.
I love that he's basically taking shots at McCloughan for not signing a 33y/o TE who hasn't been in the league the last 2+ seasons.
But this is what happens when "you can't let go." Dude, you were a very good player in your day and beloved by Redskins fans. Don't ruin it now with all this whining and lobbying.
It makes me sad because despite all the Cooley jokes I'm sure a lot of us on this board loved him as a player and held him in high esteem at the time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/down-three-tight-ends-redskins-seem-content-to-make-best-of-what-they-have/2015/12/14/52213102-a2a7-11e5-9c4e-be37f66848bb_story.html
An interesting article on the Tight End situation. We don't consider Carrier a star, but apparently he was quite valuable. Reed is pretty much just a pass catcher, while Carrier could run block too. So, when in the game, teams couldn't easily predict when the Redskins would run or pass. Apparently with Carrier out vs. Dallas, we used more lineman in place of Carrier, but that forecasted the run more, and you saw how that worked out.
Next man up though...hoping this Hamm dude comes to play. You got to give the young guys a shot. I remember when Breeland was gonna be career backup at CB before Hall got hurt. Then when Hall got hurt, we saw Breeland had legit skills. Hopefully that will happen here as well...
PS funny picture of Cousins in that article...
An interesting article on the Tight End situation. We don't consider Carrier a star, but apparently he was quite valuable. Reed is pretty much just a pass catcher, while Carrier could run block too. So, when in the game, teams couldn't easily predict when the Redskins would run or pass. Apparently with Carrier out vs. Dallas, we used more lineman in place of Carrier, but that forecasted the run more, and you saw how that worked out.
Next man up though...hoping this Hamm dude comes to play. You got to give the young guys a shot. I remember when Breeland was gonna be career backup at CB before Hall got hurt. Then when Hall got hurt, we saw Breeland had legit skills. Hopefully that will happen here as well...
PS funny picture of Cousins in that article...
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No, and I doubt he has the wheels to be a receiving threat. Seriously, he just needs to settle in as a radio guy and/or commentator. It's not a bad career...a lot of us would kill to be in that spot...enjoy it Chris!Loved Cooley as a player. But I agree with the "let it go" part. Like I mentioned above, his last relevant season was 2010. That's forever ago in football years. And his last 4 seasons saw 1 healthy year. Sure, it's only 3 games, but what does he really have to offer at this point? We need a TE who can block and be a receiving threat. Can Cooley really be an asset as a blocker at this point?It's insane. Actually, it makes me sad. When Cooley was playing, I really liked him. He was a hard nosed, dependable team guy who was like one shining star in the middle of all those losing seasons. And he never stopped being a "Redskins guy" even through the dysfunction. There was a lot to like about Cooley. He gave his body for the team and that ultimately caused his retirement.I'm so tired of Cooley #####ing about not being signed by the team. He's also tried out for the Cardinals and Giants and they didn't want him either.The idiots on ESPN980 (Cooley being one of them) spent at a decent amount of time lobbying for this today. That's how you know they know nothing. Cooley's wanted to play all year, he's gotten tryouts, nobody's signed him, he's not NFL material any more. And the guys on the radio still think he is. Tomorrow they'll probably be suggesting trading Griffin for Gronkowski.MikeApf said:Who the heck are we going to suit up at Tight End next? Fatness, get ready. You may need to get on a plane to Landover.
Or maybe we'll call ... Cooley? He can share a locker with Cousins.
Cooley hasn't played since 2012 and even then, he wasn't that good at that point. His last relevant season was back in 2010.
I love that he's basically taking shots at McCloughan for not signing a 33y/o TE who hasn't been in the league the last 2+ seasons.
But this is what happens when "you can't let go." Dude, you were a very good player in your day and beloved by Redskins fans. Don't ruin it now with all this whining and lobbying.
It makes me sad because despite all the Cooley jokes I'm sure a lot of us on this board loved him as a player and held him in high esteem at the time.
dgreen
Footballguy
He's settling in just fine by keeping this comeback shtick going. I think it's possible Cooley is a bit delusional and thinks he deserves a roster spot in the NFL, but I lean more towards him doing a radio bit with a little bit of "so you're telling me there's a chance". As for Czabe and Galdi, gun to their head there's no way they'd say Cooley should be back in the league. I'm 99% sure they are just supporting the bit (and, yes, a little scared to stand up to the jock).
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
No doubt. I think Jackson and Garcon are both out the door if they don't restructure. Garcon may. I don't see Jackson being the type to do that.DallasDMac said:
fatness
Footballguy
I'll agree they're intimidated by Cooley but not with the rest of what you said. He's serious that he can play, says he's talked to "2 of the 3 main decision makers" with the Skins and they're good with it "but the other guy won't talk to me". So he's either talked to Gruden and Allen about it, or to Gruden and Snyder about it. It's not schtick. It's delusion.
His personality on air has gotten noticeably more caustic this year. He talks down to people now. When he first came on I enjoyed him because he was like he was as a player --- funny, smart, personable. Now he's thin skinned and pompous, which pretty much makes him Chris Russell as far as listening goes.
fatness
Footballguy
MattFancy
Footballguy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/12/15/yes-chris-cooley-would-still-like-to-come-back-to-the-redskins/?ref=yfp
Obviously, Cooley doesn't think much of the other Redskins options at TE, though haven't seen him weigh in on Alex Smith yet.
Czaban, in fact, seemed to suggest that the franchise was making a mistake by not at least giving Cooley a tryout. But the former tight end seemed less willing to publicly lobby for a chance than he was earlier this season.
“You guys can do this all you want,” Cooley said to Czaban and Al Galdi. “You can do this for as long as you want, as much as you want. Here’s the only thing I’ll say: you can’t go forward as-is. I don’t care if it’s me. If it’s someone else that can play, great. I love [tackle/tight end] Tom Compton. I think he’s a great dude. I don’t think he’s a threat as a tight end. Maybe if he spends the offseason losing 30 pounds and teaching himself to run some routes, maybe.
“I don’t think [Je’Ron] Hamm is a viable option for you at tight end if you want to be better in the run game. And by the way, Jay [Gruden’s] proved a point by not playing Hamm over the last three weeks when he could have played Hamm if he needed a guy to help out. It’s a bad situation for them to be in, and clearly they don’t have a guy.”
Tune in next week, when 14 more tight ends get injured and the Redskins still don’t call Cooley.
Obviously, Cooley doesn't think much of the other Redskins options at TE, though haven't seen him weigh in on Alex Smith yet.
Czaban, in fact, seemed to suggest that the franchise was making a mistake by not at least giving Cooley a tryout. But the former tight end seemed less willing to publicly lobby for a chance than he was earlier this season.
“You guys can do this all you want,” Cooley said to Czaban and Al Galdi. “You can do this for as long as you want, as much as you want. Here’s the only thing I’ll say: you can’t go forward as-is. I don’t care if it’s me. If it’s someone else that can play, great. I love [tackle/tight end] Tom Compton. I think he’s a great dude. I don’t think he’s a threat as a tight end. Maybe if he spends the offseason losing 30 pounds and teaching himself to run some routes, maybe.
“I don’t think [Je’Ron] Hamm is a viable option for you at tight end if you want to be better in the run game. And by the way, Jay [Gruden’s] proved a point by not playing Hamm over the last three weeks when he could have played Hamm if he needed a guy to help out. It’s a bad situation for them to be in, and clearly they don’t have a guy.”
Tune in next week, when 14 more tight ends get injured and the Redskins still don’t call Cooley.
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VaTerp
Footballguy
Watching the 30 for 30 on the Bills right now and re-living 1991. The apex of being a Redskins fan. That team was so good. Steve Tasker said best team he ever saw. They loss 2 games by a total of 5 points that year against division opponents that they beat by a combined 25 that year. And oh yeah one of those division opponents went on to win back to back the next 2 years.
I've been a bad Skins fan this year. I have to admit I sort of checked out at halftime of the Tampa game. Watched the comeback and felt sort of numb. Very wierd. I still watch every week on my main TV but have really focused more on my 2 FF teams.
I guess I'm just in wait and see mode before emotionally investing. The overall arrow is pointing up but still have reservations about Gruden and Cousins. But do like Scotch and again, the overall arrow is pointing up.
As a sports obsessed 13 year old the 91' championship was amazing, the 2nd championship in 5 years and 4th superbowl in my lifetime spoiled me and helped keep me passionate as a fan for about almost 25 years. But I need to replenish the passion in the tank and even leading the division in week 15 doesnt seem to be doing it for me this year. Hopefully that changes soon.
I've been a bad Skins fan this year. I have to admit I sort of checked out at halftime of the Tampa game. Watched the comeback and felt sort of numb. Very wierd. I still watch every week on my main TV but have really focused more on my 2 FF teams.
I guess I'm just in wait and see mode before emotionally investing. The overall arrow is pointing up but still have reservations about Gruden and Cousins. But do like Scotch and again, the overall arrow is pointing up.
As a sports obsessed 13 year old the 91' championship was amazing, the 2nd championship in 5 years and 4th superbowl in my lifetime spoiled me and helped keep me passionate as a fan for about almost 25 years. But I need to replenish the passion in the tank and even leading the division in week 15 doesnt seem to be doing it for me this year. Hopefully that changes soon.
MattFancy
Footballguy
I've felt the same way this season. I've watched the games, but just can't get too excited after big wins. I'm so used to being let down by this team that I just can't get excited that we're in 1st place with 3 weeks left. Which is crazy.
I think this is a common feeling, which I too share. I definitely still watch the games and root for the team every week, but we've been let down so much, in so many ways, after so much hype, it's almost like I"m afraid to get my hopes up.
Honestly it's like we're an "abused fan base" that needs to recover before being normal again...
MattFancy
Footballguy
Actually, this week's game really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Next week is the big one at Philly. The winner of that game is really in the driver's seat for the division.
I did hear Cooley once when the Redskins traded for Derrick Carrier. Cooley thought Carrier had the skills to be a good TE.
fatness
Footballguy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/12/16/a-closer-look-at-how-terrance-knighton-stood-out-against-the-bears/
Knighton has played well a couple games in a row now. Before his time off for the migraine issue he hadn't been playing so well. I wonder if that was health-related?
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
I don't agree that this week's game means nothing to either the Skins or the Eagles. Either of them could lose this week, then beat the other team, then lose in week 17.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Well sure. It's just that us winning or the Eagles losing this week doesn't mean as much as next week's game. If we beat the Eagles next week, we're 3-2 in the division and have the tie breaker over them. If we're going to lose 1 of the next 3, this week against the Bills is the one I'd rather lose.
If we lose to the Bills, we must win back to back road games against division opponents to take the division.
If we beat the Bills, there's a very realistic scenario that still has us going to the playoffs even with a loss at Philly (Win at Dallas, PHI and NYG loss this week, and NYG>PHI in week 17).
Seems pretty important to me.
If we beat the Bills, there's a very realistic scenario that still has us going to the playoffs even with a loss at Philly (Win at Dallas, PHI and NYG loss this week, and NYG>PHI in week 17).
Seems pretty important to me.
dgreen
Footballguy
Agree. A loss to the Bills and Philly beating the Cards would lead to a scenario where the Redskins are eliminated with a loss in Philly. A win this weekend diminishes the blow of a loss @Philly.
The game @Philly is starting to scare me.
They don't even need to beat the Cards if we lose this week. A loss at Philly gives them the overall tiebreaker against us (They already have the common games tiebreaker, and a loss at PHI would make the head to head a tie and the division a tie at best). We would only get the division at that point by having a better record. Which can only happen if we win vs Buffalo and Dallas and they lose vs Arizona and NY.
Bottom line the team needs to get into the mindset of winning out. Not saying that's possible but it may be overthinking matters regarding all these scenarios. Just try to win every game you play. IF somehow you win all of them, you are in the playoffs. Not saying it's likely just that's the mindset I hope the team is taking...5 Digits said:
DallasDMac
Footballguy
This is where I am at. Beat someone GOOD rather than getting routed, and maybe I'll get more optimistic. I think they've beat some teams they should have, lost to some teams they should have beaten, and got crushed but the upper tier teams they have played. If they want optimism, even in their own locker room, I think they need to start beating teams that matter. So the Buffalo game may not "matter," I think it does matter if you want anything other than "Oh look, we won our division because everyone else sucked worse than us."
fatness
Footballguy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/12/16/redskins-sign-tight-end-ray-hamilton-to-practice-squad/
Pretty sure they're cornering the market on TE's nobody else wants.
Or trying to piss off Cooley.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
For what it's worth, NOBODY has beaten the two really good teams on the Skins' schedule. The Panthers are undefeated and the Pats' only two losses came in OT after Gronk's injury and then the next week with him out. You can't really criticize the Skins for their inability to beat those teams, especially since they were both road games. That leaves only one other loss to a "good" team, the Jets at 8-5. So basically when you criticize them for not beating good teams, you're criticizing them for not winning a mid-October road game in New Jersey. They do have three wins against 6-7 teams, including one that has a positive point differential.
That's not to say they're a good team, obviously they're not. But they're heading in the right direction, and there's plenty of reason to be optimistic about next season even without a monster win on the resume. It's hard to get such wins when you don't get many chances (and no chances at home).
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This is an interesting and a valid point. The Redskins fan base (myself included) is just so beaten down we're skeptical of any good news.
Along those lines, I'm actually a bit concerned that due to our inability to see the good in "decent", we could easily screw up our future QB situation. Since mid-season, Kirk Cousins has apparently improved on his interception problem and has actually turned in decent performances. When you talk to Redskins fans, they are like, "oh, he's ok, but kind of average...we won't win a super bowl with him" as if we can just magically push a button and get a SB QB next year. But I guarantee you this, other teams will make him offers in Free Agency, and they are likely to pay in such a way that will be considered "overpayment." Good analysis here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25415377/agents-take-what-will-kirk-cousins-next-contract-look-like
It's entirely beyond me why the Redskins don't try to tie him up right now. And this is not me taking the "Cooley" approach. I'm fully aware that Cousins has a past history of INTs and also that he hasn't earned the right to be called a "great" QB. But he actually has earned the right to be called a legitimate starter who, yes, we can try to build a team around that can, yes, win games. The big thing is: you have to look at the alternatives. What are our alternatives?
1. Rookie -- start over and rolling the dice.
2. RGIII -- well has already been poisoned and arguably has larger question marks that Cousins (though at one time had larger ceiling)
3. Colt McCoy -- the ONLY advantage here would be the price tag. But you can't run your team like, "lets reduce our salary even if we lose more games." That's insane.
Honestly, it's a no brainer, but we are so beaten down and cynical, that we are on the verge of saying, "this guy is no good" when if you look at it league wide, he is clearly our best option for next year and beyond that he will be a highly coveted commodity.
I think if it goes to bidding we're going to pay a lot more...why not wrap this guy up now? I like the idea in the article of going for a short term 1-2 year extension at a higher rate that gives Cousins a reason to stay but doesn't commit the team long term...
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Sebowski
Footballguy
I hate negotiating during the season. Especially at QB. Let him stay focused, and let's see how he finishes.
Also, you left off bringing in a vet as a bridge to the rookie. A Hoyer, McCown, Fitzpatrick type. That's the class I have Cousins playing in right now. Cousins has more potential upside, but that's where he is right now, imo.
Oh, and apparently you can just puzh a button and get a SB QB. We just need to figure out where the Cardinals are hiding it and steal it.
Also, you left off bringing in a vet as a bridge to the rookie. A Hoyer, McCown, Fitzpatrick type. That's the class I have Cousins playing in right now. Cousins has more potential upside, but that's where he is right now, imo.
Oh, and apparently you can just puzh a button and get a SB QB. We just need to figure out where the Cardinals are hiding it and steal it.
MattFancy
Footballguy
You all know, I wasn't a Cousins guy coming into this year. I'm still not fully all-in on him, but Mike is right, we don't have any better options going forward right now. Sure, I still don't think Cousins is more than an average QB, but right now, that's good enough for us. Do I think we should go crazy and sign him to some big deal? No. I think something like 3/$50M would be reasonable for him.
I wouldn't be surprised to see McCloughan take a QB in the mid/late rounds though to develop.
I wouldn't be surprised to see McCloughan take a QB in the mid/late rounds though to develop.
I wouldn't use the word "highly", but he will get at least one other competitive offer.
If Cousins were to become a free agent, he will be the best QB in free agency in a quite a while. He is going to get paid.
Earlier in the season, I said that if Cousins finishes the season as the starter, it is a no brainer to re-sign him. It is just a question of how much and what role. And based on his play this year, it will be a lot. Even if you consider Cousin an average starting QB, he should get paid like an average starting QB who is getting a brand new contract. Players like Kaepernick, Dalton, Smith, and even Russell come to mind.
There are ways to structure the contract so that it is not too long of a commitment. I heard the 49ers can part ways with Kaepernick after this season without too much dead money.
Earlier in the season, I said that if Cousins finishes the season as the starter, it is a no brainer to re-sign him. It is just a question of how much and what role. And based on his play this year, it will be a lot. Even if you consider Cousin an average starting QB, he should get paid like an average starting QB who is getting a brand new contract. Players like Kaepernick, Dalton, Smith, and even Russell come to mind.
There are ways to structure the contract so that it is not too long of a commitment. I heard the 49ers can part ways with Kaepernick after this season without too much dead money.
I just looked up Kaepernick's contract. 6 years, $114 M, with $61M guaranteed. And he signed it prior to the 2015 season. That is a lot of guaranteed money to eat if they cut him.
DallasDMac
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Y'all definitely should keep Cousins, think he's showing promise. Similar situation to Eagles and Bradford - you're not getting a stud QB in the draft, build around your guy. It'll be interesting to see which of the two (Bradford/Cousins) makes more $$ this offseason.
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