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Yup. Trump's doing just fine in the polls after what was a complete fiasco leading up to his acceptance speech, a point or two better than I expected pre-convention even. Most people here are online all day and track the 24/7 news cycle, but I think the vast majority of undecided voters just watch the prime time speeches and that's about it.
Way too early and public for that, they'll wait until election day and make appearances at the polling places in November in Philly like they did in 2008 and 2012.
DWS must have some awful dirt on HRC...and that is a Hillary Standard that is hard to achieve!
The good thing is Americans are getting more weary of the media...downright distrusting in many ways.
Link? If she does show up, its to reinforce the Russian Narrative.
You're comparing a 100 train car wreck with a 110 train car wreck. Is there really a point? Yeah, they're technically different, but is that difference significant enough to point out? Do the extra 10 cars make it worth ignoring the 100 car wreck? Both are spectacular events.
i'm guessing those in attendance for her opening speech will be hand selected member's of Hillary's payroll
First Presidential debate on Monday, 9/26 during MNF (Falcons @ Saints) and second Presidential debate on Sunday, 10/9 during SNF (Giants @ Packers). I love that we'll get to see how the ratings of two National NFL games look vs. the debates, which will be must-see. I suspect Bach fans who aren't beholden to watch live will DVR and watch later, whereas both the debates and NFL prime time games are two things more people would want to see live.Double Dose oftheater tonight with this and the Bachelorette.
He is owned 100% by the DNC if he delivers this speech in light of everything going on right now.
Setting aside the ridiculousness of judging the content of a speech based on a couple second-hand phrases about its content ... isn't it possible that Sanders thinks the best use of his time and influence is to do everything he can to make sure Trump is not the next president of the United States? That seems like the noblest cause a progressive could take up these days. After all, not only is Trump a dangerous embarrassment generally speaking, he also completely disagrees with Sanders on literally every issue but one (at least based on what we currently know about his positions), while Sanders and Clinton are largely in agreement on the vast majority of issues. One doesn't need to be "owned by the DNC" to think like that. And in any event if he were owned by the DNC he wouldn't have been able to get them to reform their rules and platform the way he has.
I get it, but taking his speech in that direction completely goes against a big part of his platform while he was still running of not being owned or beholden to anyone or anything to further his cause. I guess it saddens me most because it shows how truly powerful and in control the establishment really is, where Bernie has to fall on his sword after being (now confirmed) railroaded because the other option is so unpalatable, but now he's playing into the establishment he railed against. The anti-William Wallace, if you will.
Falling on his sword suggests he lost. He didn't lose. He accomplished way more than anyone could have predicted when he began his campaign with the changes to the platform and the super delegates and whatnot, and that happened because of concessions by the DNC. If they were truly powerful and in control those things don't happen.
It's been troubling that Clinton and the DNC seemed to not be "getting it" on this stuff. Glad they appear to be coming to their senses.
I don't think this is a problem. Nobody cares who gavels in the convention or speaks in the middle of the afternoon. I have no idea who did it last week- Priebus I guess?- and no recollection of it at all. It was only getting attention because it was DWS right after the wikileaks mess.
Sanders, Warren, Clinton, Obama2, Biden all beat out Rawlings Blake for attention and publicity. 4:00pm speaking slot is a meh slot so no harm no foul for the DNC.
Pretty sure Barack Obama's being rolled out as the face of the party's leadership.
Don't think the DNC will end up being THAT bad. We'll see. There's already a distinction made in Philly. By all accounts, there's a ton of anti-Hillary shtick going on and much more aggressive than the #nevertrump crew. If we are to believe reports, there is a daily march to the convention scheduled with thousands asked to participate. For the goat rodeo the GOP convention was, this sort of divide didn't exist outside of people booing Ted Cruz (the other self proclaimed outsider) during the convention.
I don't know if it's short- term memory loss or grading on the curve, but it's a little strange that people are making a bigger deal of the DWS screwup and the protests outside than they did of this stuff.
I suspect it's because of all the predictions of riots and blowing up the state of Ohio prior to the GOP convention. I've had more important things on my mind the last couple weeks and admitted I didn't see a whole lot of the GOP convention nor did I pay attention to all the protests going on at the GOP convention. Are we not to expect something similar from Bernie supporters at the DNC that we saw from the #nevertrump yahoos? I guess we'll see. By the time I got to pay a little attention to the GOP convention, the #nevertrump stuff must have been stamped out because I didn't hear much about it Thursday. Either that or the media/press dropped the ball again.
I thought I was being pruned for one reason or another....can we purge the other one?
They need to be merged, SF's thread as the original should control.Damn it....I thought I was losing my mind. Didn't realize there were two DNC Convention threads
"I was asked to start one."
