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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

War in the Middle East...that is the answer!!

Said no intelligent person in the history of the earth.

JFC, how many times do we need to go through this.

 
I guess Pataki, Santorum and Huck don't have jobs so as long as they're not spending too much what the hell. But Graham should be back doing his job full time.

 
I guess Pataki, Santorum and Huck don't have jobs so as long as they're not spending too much what the hell. But Graham should be back doing his job full time.
True, this is free advertising for Huck's television/radio shows...= money.

The American way.

 
If it really is true that we're not allowed to look at social media, that's insane. If the Obama administration is behind that they're insane.

 
Willie Neslon said:
Good thing they go through the rules and format beforehand. Otherwise we'd have no idea how this thing works.
Why bother...they won't really follow them anyway...

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
It's got to be more cost effective than the current VA structure. That being said, the VA does have expertise regarding psychological/mental health treatments. That treatment can't go away and would have to be adopted elsewhere.

 
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Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
They would get benefits, just not provided by the clusterf&*@ that is the VA.

It's actually a really good idea and would likely save taxpayers money in the long run and likely provide better care for our veterans.

 
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Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...

I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
They would get benefits, just not provided by the clusterf&*@ that is the VA.

It's actually a really good idea and would likely save taxpayers money in the long run and likely provide better care for our veterans.
Everybody gets benefits then? 100% for all? Do you even know how that works (no)

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.

 
Hugh Hewitt is a guy I respect so much. I rarely agree with him politically, but man does he ask tough questions. And he always gets to the heart of the issue.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
They would get benefits, just not provided by the clusterf&*@ that is the VA.

It's actually a really good idea and would likely save taxpayers money in the long run and likely provide better care for our veterans.
Everybody gets benefits then? 100% for all? Do you even know how that works (no)
My understanding is that veterans would get the same level of benefits/healthcare. Admittedly, not a VA expert.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.
You're right, sir.

Honestly, I was thinking about the hospitals, and if we give the veterans cards whether or not it would make sense to get rid of the hospitals and the bureaucratic system that goes with it. And I don't know the answer. The benefits are a different issue.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
They would get benefits, just not provided by the clusterf&*@ that is the VA.

It's actually a really good idea and would likely save taxpayers money in the long run and likely provide better care for our veterans.
Everybody gets benefits then? 100% for all? Do you even know how that works (no)
My understanding is that veterans would get the same level of benefits/healthcare. Admittedly, not a VA expert.
You're definitely not. Somebody has to make the decisions on every vet's benefits and it's quite complicated.

 
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Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...

I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe.
mighty nice of you

Irene Triplett thanks you

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.
You're right, sir. Honestly, I was thinking about the hospitals, and if we give the veterans cards whether or not it would make sense to get rid of the hospitals and the bureaucratic system that goes with it. And I don't know the answer. The benefits are a different issue.
A lot of basic exams and other medical issues are already being contracted out. I would say for the mental issues vets have, it would be hard for private doctors to take that over. VA offers oretty great mental health care.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
They would get benefits, just not provided by the clusterf&*@ that is the VA.

It's actually a really good idea and would likely save taxpayers money in the long run and likely provide better care for our veterans.
Everybody gets benefits then? 100% for all? Do you even know how that works (no)
My understanding is that veterans would get the same level of benefits/healthcare. Admittedly, not a VA expert.
You're definitely not.Somebody has to make the decisions on every vet's benefits and it's quite complicated.
I don't believe that changes, but the article I read didn't address that.

 
The next President will be a wartime President...

Well, maybe. I'm still not sure of that. One question I don't quite understand: most of these guys are in favor of a no-fly zone over Syria. So is Hillary. But none of them, including Hillary, have been able to explain how that will expedite things, either in terms of removing Assad or combating ISIS, or both. Then again, those opposed to the no-fly zone haven't really explained this very well either.

What are the pros and cons of the no-fly zone?

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.
You're right, sir. Honestly, I was thinking about the hospitals, and if we give the veterans cards whether or not it would make sense to get rid of the hospitals and the bureaucratic system that goes with it. And I don't know the answer. The benefits are a different issue.
A lot of basic exams and other medical issues are already being contracted out. I would say for the mental issues vets have, it would be hard for private doctors to take that over. VA offers oretty great mental health care.
OK. I can accept that.

We hear so much about veterans having to wait weeks and months for basic services. I would be in favor of whatever solves that issue, efficiently.

 
Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.
You're right, sir. Honestly, I was thinking about the hospitals, and if we give the veterans cards whether or not it would make sense to get rid of the hospitals and the bureaucratic system that goes with it. And I don't know the answer. The benefits are a different issue.
A lot of basic exams and other medical issues are already being contracted out. I would say for the mental issues vets have, it would be hard for private doctors to take that over. VA offers oretty great mental health care.
OK. I can accept that. We hear so much about veterans having to wait weeks and months for basic services. I would be in favor of whatever solves that issue, efficiently.
Well you could start by paying federal doctors what private doctors make. It's particularly shocking to me that this never gets addressed.
 
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Regarding what Pataki was saying, I've been wondering about this: how much more would it cost us as a country to simply abolish the VA and give every veteran a card that they could take to any hospital and get 100% reimbursement from the government? Anybody have an idea? Is Doctor Detroit around?

I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm not considering, but it seems like such a simple solution...
Abolish the VA? So no more monthly benefits?
Well, like I said...I don't know. Keep the benefits, maybe. I'm just wondering about the hospitals I guess.
That's a pretty big thing not to consider.
You're right, sir. Honestly, I was thinking about the hospitals, and if we give the veterans cards whether or not it would make sense to get rid of the hospitals and the bureaucratic system that goes with it. And I don't know the answer. The benefits are a different issue.
A lot of basic exams and other medical issues are already being contracted out. I would say for the mental issues vets have, it would be hard for private doctors to take that over. VA offers oretty great mental health care.
OK. I can accept that. We hear so much about veterans having to wait weeks and months for basic services. I would be in favor of whatever solves that issue, efficiently.
Well you could start by paying federal doctors what private doctors make. It's particularly shocking to me that this never gets addressed.
Correct, currently doctors graduating from medical school mostly consider VA opportunties as a backup plan. Most go where the money is at and the VA attracts the bottom tier of doctors(generally speaking).

 
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The next President will be a wartime President...

Well, maybe. I'm still not sure of that. One question I don't quite understand: most of these guys are in favor of a no-fly zone over Syria. So is Hillary. But none of them, including Hillary, have been able to explain how that will expedite things, either in terms of removing Assad or combating ISIS, or both. Then again, those opposed to the no-fly zone haven't really explained this very well either.

What are the pros and cons of the no-fly zone?
Pros- less malaria.

 
National security questions:

1. Why are we trying so hard to get rid of Assad? Would it benefit us to put that aside in order to concentrate on ISIS? Or do we need to do both?

2. If Iran is opposed to ISIS, how can we use that to our benefit?

3. Why is a no-fly zone so important?

4. How would ground troops in Iraq and Syria help us, specifically? How long would they have to be there?

5. What should be our position vis a vis Russia in Syria?

I know there's going to be a lot of talk about Muslim refugees here, and the NSA, and terrorism, and honestly I suspect the candidates would love to discuss those types of issues because they're easier to talk about rather than what to do and not to do over there. But I'm hoping they spend plenty of time on the questions above.

 
Graham already answered the question, "how long would they have to be there?" His answer was, "as long as it takes". Takes to do what? Defeat ISIS? Create a stable, friendly, democratic Iraq and Syria?

 
We need to decide whether we want a stable, friendly, democratic Iraq (or Syria, or whatever), and if we're willing to commit tens of thousands of ground troops for the next twenty years to get it. If not, I'm thinking maybe we should just pack up and leave entirely.

 
We need to decide whether we want a stable, friendly, democratic Iraq (or Syria, or whatever), and if we're willing to commit tens of thousands of ground troops for the next twenty years to get it. If not, I'm thinking maybe we should just pack up and leave entirely.
If we leave, what are the long term negatives? A more powerful ISIS state committing all sorts of horrendous crimes? A threat to our oil supply?

 
National security questions:

1. Why are we trying so hard to get rid of Assad? Would it benefit us to put that aside in order to concentrate on ISIS? Or do we need to do both?

2. If Iran is opposed to ISIS, how can we use that to our benefit?

3. Why is a no-fly zone so important?

4. How would ground troops in Iraq and Syria help us, specifically? How long would they have to be there?

5. What should be our position vis a vis Russia in Syria?

I know there's going to be a lot of talk about Muslim refugees here, and the NSA, and terrorism, and honestly I suspect the candidates would love to discuss those types of issues because they're easier to talk about rather than what to do and not to do over there. But I'm hoping they spend plenty of time on the questions above.
No one is going to answer #2 anywhere near correctly. These guys can't wrap their heads around the enemy of my enemy thing.

 

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