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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (2 Viewers)

RBM said:
timschochet said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
She also bears a rather striking resemblance to Cruella De Ville. If I had puppies, I'd be nervous...
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When Obama appointed Kagen to the Supreme Court, I started a thread suggesting Obama appointed Barney Rubble to the Supreme Court and you along with several others were offended and complained and my thread was pulled.
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I don't remember that at all. Are you sure I was offended? I'm rarely offended by things like that.
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If Obama was involved in any way I'm sure you were offended.
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I am pretty sure Tim was one of the complainers. Thought we should be having a serious discussion about her qualifications (which there were not many).

 
From that link:

The share of Republican primary voters who say they view Trump favorably increased since the last tracking poll, to 62 percent from 57 percent. But the number of registered voters who say they see Trump unfavorably remains high — 52 percent of all voters say they see him in a negative light. That makes Trump both the most popular candidate within the Republican field and the least popular candidate Republicans could nominate for next year’s general election.

:lmao:

 
Eephus said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
She also bears a rather striking resemblance to Cruella De Ville. If I had puppies, I'd be nervous...
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When Obama appointed Kagen to the Supreme Court, I started a thread suggesting Obama appointed Barney Rubble to the Supreme Court and you along with several others were offended and complained and my thread was pulled.
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That would never happen when Trump is President
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Trump would never appoint anyone with better hair than him. Of course that limits the pool of candidates quite substantially.

 
Yahoo

The first round of post-debate polls are out, and Donald Trump has a commanding lead

Despite a critically shaky debate performance and a fresh round of controversy, real-estate magnate Donald Trump still leads the Republican presidential field, according to several new polls.

A new poll from NBC and SurveyMonkey showed Trump's popularity among GOP primary voters mostly unchanged. According to the new poll, 23% of Republican-primary voters said Trump would be their first choice for president if the election were held today. That's up from 22% last week, though well within the poll's 3.4% margin of error.

On Monday, the firm Morning Consult released a poll that showed Trump's support nationally increasing to 32% from 25% last week. Reuters released a national survey that found Trump holding steady, meanwhile, though the poll had a noticeably large 6.7% margin of error.

And Public Policy Polling also released a poll of Iowa that showed Trump leading among Republican primary voters in the Hawkeye State, with 19%. That was 7 points ahead of the next candidate, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.
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timschochet said:
From that link:

The share of Republican primary voters who say they view Trump favorably increased since the last tracking poll, to 62 percent from 57 percent. But the number of registered voters who say they see Trump unfavorably remains high — 52 percent of all voters say they see him in a negative light. That makes Trump both the most popular candidate within the Republican field and the least popular candidate Republicans could nominate for next year’s general election.

:lmao:
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I'm sure the part you bolded, put in italics, and put in a bigger font is true for Hillary Clinton as well.

 
Yep the two parties could likely nominate the two persons with the highest unfavorables and highest untrustworthy numbers.

If anyone has any good 3rd party recs...

 
Wow. I don't think I can recall anything quite like this now. In every other case, gaffes like the ones Trump has made should have sent him plummeting. This #### is for real. What the #### is wrong with the Republican party?

 
timschochet said:
RBM said:
timschochet said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
She also bears a rather striking resemblance to Cruella De Ville. If I had puppies, I'd be nervous...
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When Obama appointed Kagen to the Supreme Court, I started a thread suggesting Obama appointed Barney Rubble to the Supreme Court and you along with several others were offended and complained and my thread was pulled.
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I don't remember that at all. Are you sure I was offended? I'm rarely offended by things like that.
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If Obama was involved in any way I'm sure you were offended.
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I doubt it. I'll certainly defend him at times, but if I were to get offended by this sort of stuff I wouldn't be here.
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OK, I apologize. It was others. Somehow the thread got reinstated only later to be achieved.

 
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
RBM said:
timschochet said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
She also bears a rather striking resemblance to Cruella De Ville. If I had puppies, I'd be nervous...
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When Obama appointed Kagen to the Supreme Court, I started a thread suggesting Obama appointed Barney Rubble to the Supreme Court and you along with several others were offended and complained and my thread was pulled.
Click to expand...
I don't remember that at all. Are you sure I was offended? I'm rarely offended by things like that.
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If Obama was involved in any way I'm sure you were offended.
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I doubt it. I'll certainly defend him at times, but if I were to get offended by this sort of stuff I wouldn't be here.
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OK, I apologize. It was others. Somehow the thread got reinstated only later to be achieved.
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But what you did do was start an alternative thread.

 
If this is what the true Republican Party has devolved into, we are in trouble as a nation. The two parties obviously have differences and bias, but these candidates are borderline insane. The ones who seem reasonable don't get out of the primaries.

Because of this, we probably get stuck with Hillary. That isn't a great option in a vacuum, but compared to these clowns she'd be on Mt. Rushmore.

 
jon_mx said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
RBM said:
timschochet said:
jon_mx said:
timschochet said:
She also bears a rather striking resemblance to Cruella De Ville. If I had puppies, I'd be nervous...
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When Obama appointed Kagen to the Supreme Court, I started a thread suggesting Obama appointed Barney Rubble to the Supreme Court and you along with several others were offended and complained and my thread was pulled.
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I don't remember that at all. Are you sure I was offended? I'm rarely offended by things like that.
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If Obama was involved in any way I'm sure you were offended.
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I doubt it. I'll certainly defend him at times, but if I were to get offended by this sort of stuff I wouldn't be here.
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OK, I apologize. It was others. Somehow the thread got reinstated only later to be achieved.
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But what you did do was start an alternative thread.
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I do remember doing that, because I wanted to have a more serious debate. But I didn't complain about your thread.

 
timschochet said:
Gary Coal Man said:
The Hill

Trump way up in post-debate poll

Donald Trump's lead over his Republican presidential rivals grew substantially in the days following the first GOP debate and his controversial comments about moderator Megyn Kelly.

Trump’s support increased by 7 points, to 32 percent, according to the latest Morning Consult tracking poll.

The real estate mogul’s closest rival — former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — lost 1 point, down to 11 percent support among self-identified Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.

Support for all other candidates was in the single digits in the poll.
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32%???

JFC this is getting real.

Eminence just finger blasted himself.
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"I'll just finger-blast myself!"

 
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.

 
Everytime I tell myself Trump can't win, I remember that Jesse Ventura became Govenor of Minnesota. Sometimes the candidate that gets put up for election as a joke, actually wins.

 
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
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Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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Sounds like the perfect pick for VP.

 
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
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Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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Olaf is back! Where you been dude?
 
timschochet said:
Wow. I don't think I can recall anything quite like this now. In every other case, gaffes like the ones Trump has made should have sent him plummeting. This #### is for real. What the #### is wrong with the Republican party?
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Republicans? You are from Cali too. Remember the Schwarzenegger for governor race. There are going to be a lot of Democrat defectors based strictly on fame, familiarity and affinity. The Rs are captive they will vote R anyways, he can pull Ds, there are people who will come out just to vote for him. I am on board with a Donald implosion but if it goes the distance he can win.

 
timschochet said:
I want to discuss Carly Fiorina's dramatic rise in the polls for a moment, without discussing Fiorina herself. Somebody brought this up earlier, but I'm very curious how many people that now support Fiorina (she went from below 1% to around 8%) actually watched her performance Thursday afternoon- I can't imagine that many. Much more likely, they have been influenced by the number of political pundits who raved about her, and also by the brief snippet of her in the Thursday night debate. (A note about that snippet- it was almost perfectly set up- the Fox guy said "We're going to hear from two candidates from earlier today." The first guy is Rick Perry, who says how he wishes Fiorina had been the Secretary of State, and the second is Fiorina.)

What's interesting to me is how much we are still influenced by these pundits, even though so many people say otherwise. In Fiorina's case, she was lauded on FOX, on MSNBC, and on CNN. Now if there had been disagreement about her on these networks, that might have been less influential. But when all 3 networks agree, it's generally accepted into the public mindset as true.

Now someone is surely going to point out that all 3 of these networks have been trying to tear down Trump's candidacy, with far less success than they have had in building up Fiorina's. While that is true to an extent, I would argue that Trump is a special case, and somewhat immune to the ups and downs of more standard political candidates. For the latter, the public is probably more influenced by what these networks say about the candidate as what the candidate says about him or herself.
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I could tell they were setting up Fiorina even ahead of the debate. Pretty much every report that said she did well cited the 2 Fox pundits that talked right after that debate (as if they, the other reporters, couldn't even be bothered to watch it). Apparently she "won" because she could string sentences together - honestly I thought she was okay but nothing special having watched the event. When they showed that click of Perry praising her immediately followed by her sound byte, well **** I thought they might as well get the pompons out right there.

But I have said this already up thread and in real time I believe :) :bowtie:

Ailes with his thumb (and fingers) on the scales.

-QG

(ps - lol instead of 'thumb' the first time I typed that I typed 'trump' :lmao: )

 
Loan Sharks said:
Capella said:
Bachelor in economics

:lmao:
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:angry:

Capella said:
I have a bachelors in journalism. Elect me president and I'll straighten this libtard media right out.
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Congrats on picking one of the 13 most useless degrees grammar boy. http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/04/23/the-13-most-useless-majors-from-philosophy-to-journalism.html#

Maybe you can write some article on why you should have gotten an economics degree instead.

Go collate something for me. :P
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I have as much to do with journalism at this point as Trump has to being president.

:unsure:

 
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
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Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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It must be. He's not presidential at all and the exact type they hate (regardless of race) - an egghead beta male.

 
TripItUp said:
Instinctive said:
Would it be that bad if Trump did win?
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Foreign policy would be potentially disastrous. Other than that, I don't have any major concerns.
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That's the biggest thing for me.

He hasn't demonstrated any diplomatic tact. Trying to picture a world leader's reaction if Trump refers to them as a "lightweight", such as Putin or Jong-Un, which Trump seems unhinged enough to do if they don't cooperate with him. Sure, we could probably win a war, but why provoke it?

 
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TripItUp said:
Instinctive said:
Would it be that bad if Trump did win?
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Foreign policy would be potentially disastrous. Other than that, I don't have any major concerns.
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I could see him actually getting impeached and removed from office for some kind of abuse of executive power. You know congress isn't going to work with him on anything, you know he's going to go around them as much as possible, and you damn sure know he's not going to listen to any clown-### lawyers or judges that tell him he's got no legal cover for doing so.

 
17seconds said:
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
Click to expand...
Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
Click to expand...
Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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It must be. He's not presidential at all and the exact type they hate (regardless of race) - an egghead beta male.
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On the plus side, he thinks the earth is 6000 years old

 
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Olaf said:
CBusAlex said:
You know congress isn't going to work with him on anything, you know he's going to go around them as much as possible, and you damn sure know he's not going to listen to any clown-### lawyers or judges that tell him he's got no legal cover for doing so.
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Trump or Obama?
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Obama generally makes sure that the clown-### lawyers are on his side first. I mean, when Citizens United came down he made some speeches about what a bad decision it was, but he didn't tell the Supreme Court they were all fired and he was going to enforce the law no matter what they said. That's the sort of thing that Trump might decide to do.

 
Eephus said:
Fennis said:
I'm hoping we can get another round of who doesnt believe in evolution and who believes the earth is 10,000 years old

Because that's always fun: http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/t4Cc8t3Zd5E/hqdefault.jpg
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Huck is a living breathing disproof of evolution
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"If you want to believe that you and your family came from apes, that's fine. I'll accept that. I just don't happen to think that I did."

I love when Huck talks science. I, for one, refuse to let Trump distract me from this.

 
Saw a tweet where Perry is no longer paying his SC staff. Gotta wonder if perhaps he'll not make the gate. I'd be disappointed as I really do wanna see 17 runners Kentucky Derby style in Iowa :)

-QG

 
QuizGuy66 said:
Ilov80s said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Looks like the Donald is reconsidering that No 3rd Party pledge after all...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-taking-pledge-run-party/story?id=32987615#.VcidqCuQ7q8.twitter
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"is now seriously considering promising not to run as an independent if he does not win the Republican nomination, the adviser said."

This is like training camp talk we hear every year. "Jonathan Baldwin is fantastic in camp so far and I think if he keeps developing like this, he might end up having a chance to become the featured wide receiver in what just may be a very good offense." said NFL beat reporter.
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He shouldn't take the pledge, btw. At least one (if not more) of his opponents have said it'd be better for the Democrats to win than have Trump in the party (I know Graham said as much). And the truth is a number of them wouldn't support him if he won the nomination. He should not back down here.Right, Em? :)

-QG
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I think he's truly as selfish as we think he is.He's only saying he might not run because he's leading in the polls and is trying to gain some humility. Trump knows this is his chance to get the job done and will only give up leverage when he has the nomination all but sewn up, imo.

 
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Olaf said:
General Tso said:
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
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Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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Olaf is back! Where you been dude?
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I disappear in the summer.
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What would it take for you to disappear forever?

 
General Tso said:
Olaf said:
17seconds said:
Capella said:
Vegas isn't buying any of this crap. Still have trump at +1500 behind Bush, Walker and even Carson somehow.
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Why is Carson even in the top 10? Are there really that many Republicans that love to hear a an intellectual type be completely wrong on evolution and global warming? It's like they are supporting him purely to make themselves feel better. See, the smart guy agrees with my nutty positions.
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Some Republicans are supporting Carson purely to make themselves feel better. It's called white guilt. "See, the smart black guy agrees with me."

Some Republicans support Carson in '16 like they did Cain in '12 because they're sick of being called racist, so they support the candidate they think takes away that weapon.
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Olaf is back! Where you been dude?
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Civil trial for a hate crime?

Caitlyn Jenner?

Larry the Cable Guy roadie?

Those would be my top three guesses.

 
Apparently the real polls are starting to filter in - Rasmussen (yeah, yeah) and Suffolk plus one out of NH - and the Trump is down (in Ras by as much as -9) but still holding the lead due to the scattered field.

Right now it's starting to shake out that the race will consist of frontrunners: Trump, Bush, Kasich, Fiorina, Rubio, maybe Carson, maybe Paul.

 
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