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I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
All Presidents move toward the center when in officeI don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
You are a great Republican.Come talk to me after Trump builds a wall on the border.Does a topic exist that you actually know something about? Or aren't 100% wrong about?Trump will win. His biggest competition is Ben Carson based on current Iowa polling.After that, he steamrolls whatever garbage the Democrats throw out there.I could be way off on this, but ... I think a lot of what Trump is doing right now is just entertaining himself. He may actually want to be President, because that would be fun for a guy like Trump, but I think he started out just with the ambition of splashing his name all over the newspapers rather than actually winning.
If he actually does win -- which won't happen, but if it does -- I think he'd probably take the job seriously and try not to blow up the planet or anything. I actually do think he's smart enough to put together a decent team of advisers and, more often than not, follow their advice rather than doing anything rash.
Reports of his argument with his most recent campaign manager are evidence against my view. Apparently Trump was told to stop saying stupid stuff, and he was like, "But it's working!!" So the campaign manager quit or was fired. (I haven't followed it that closely.) That is admittedly evidence that Trump can be a loose cannon who refuses to take the advice of his hired experts.
But I get the feeling -- though maybe I'm just being overoptimistic -- that while Trump will run his campaign his own way (especially if his main goal is to make headlines rather than become President), he would not conduct foreign policy by shooting from the hip, flexing his muscles, and personally insulting female heads of state to make headlines. I think he'd realize the heightened importance of not botching military operations, for example, and take his advisers seriously.
Right now, Trump is a joke and I think he knows it. For the time being, I don't think he much cares whether people are laughing at him or laughing with him. But if the fate of our country's interests were actually riding on his shoulders, I think he'd try not to be a joke anymore, and I think he'd probably succeed at least as well as GWB did. I think GWB's presidency was kind of a disaster in a lot of ways, so that is damning with faint praise, to be sure. But when people imagine a Trump presidency, a lot of them imagine a presidency far worse than Bush's ever was. I'm just saying that I don't think it would be as bad as people think. I think President Trump would be less of a joke than Candidate Trump is.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/politics/cnn-orc-poll-iowa-republican-caucus-data/index.html
Just wondering.
what GOP or Dem candidate running isn't pro-America?For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
what GOP or Dem candidate running isn't pro-America?For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
we've already had 8 years of an America-hating Kenyan Muslim, it'd be nice to get someone who loves the ol' stars and stripes in office.I did for a bunch of seasons. I think I missed the last 2 or 3. Maybe even more. The Celeb version got played out. It was good when it was just regular people.Have you guys ever watched The Apprentice?
Same. It was tough to take when it went to 2 hrs also.I did for a bunch of seasons. I think I missed the last 2 or 3. Maybe even more. The Celeb version got played out. It was good when it was just regular people.Have you guys ever watched The Apprentice?
Same. It was tough to take when it went to 2 hrs also.I did for a bunch of seasons. I think I missed the last 2 or 3. Maybe even more. The Celeb version got played out. It was good when it was just regular people.Have you guys ever watched The Apprentice?
See Marurile's theory the we were responding to was that while Trump has always been selfish and his campwhat GOP or Dem candidate running isn't pro-America?For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.we've already had 8 years of an America-hating Kenyan Muslim, it'd be nice to get someone who loves the ol' stars and stripes in office.
The one we are talking about in the posts we are referencing. The billionaire who might be in this for personal/ego/financial reasons rather than patriotic/altruistic reasons.what GOP or Dem candidate running isn't pro-America?For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.
So then you agree with Maurile that Trump will take it seriously if he in fact wins.what GOP or Dem candidate running isn't pro-America?For all of the nonsense Trump has always appeared to be pro-america, He always tries to maximize any entity he is in charge of, he will be in charge of the USA and will try to make it a winner in his mind. He may be crazy he may not have the skills to succeed but there is no way his ego will let him take the presidency lightly and he will do everything to succeed.I don't have any reason to believe in Maurile's theory that Trump would conduct himself differently if he were President.we've already had 8 years of an America-hating Kenyan Muslim, it'd be nice to get someone who loves the ol' stars and stripes in office.
He's conflicted.That stupid here burns my eyes, its like he is trying to troll but incredibly bad at it
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-defends-george-w-bush-iraq-legacy-iowa-121337.html#ixzz3ijUoS1Ir
Editorial from my local paper this morning.That stupid here burns my eyes, its like he is trying to troll but incredibly bad at it
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-defends-george-w-bush-iraq-legacy-iowa-121337.html#ixzz3ijUoS1Ir
Hillary and Jeb seem to almost be helping each other right now. This is the second snipe war they have gotten into recently and it's almost as though they are trying to remind everyone they are the alleged expected nominees. Hillary's twitter has been firing off rounds at Jeb the last week.Editorial from my local paper this morning.That stupid here burns my eyes, its like he is trying to troll but incredibly bad at it
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-defends-george-w-bush-iraq-legacy-iowa-121337.html#ixzz3ijUoS1Ir
Jeb Bush blames Hillary Clinton for Iraq. Really. Editorial
File this under 'craziest campaign claims,' next to the suggestion by Donald Trump's staffer that his willingness to insult women makes him uniquely qualified to take on Hillary Clinton:
Now, Jeb Bush is claiming that his older brother's failed war in Iraq was, in fact, the fault of Hillary Clinton. In his desperation to hide from his war-mongering surname, a Bush is picking yet another battle he can't possibly win.
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Oh, Tim. Only a little blame goes to Obama for ISIS? This monster was created and rose to horrific prominence smack dab in the middle of his Presidency. Sure it's rise can be traced back to vacuum created by Bush's mismanagement of the Iraq war, but Obama could have done a lot more with ISIS. He did nothing. He sat idly by, in complete silence, while they terrorized an entire part of the world with historic barbarism that we've never seen as human beings. Obama's legacy will include the rise of ISIS. No way around that one.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
Seriously gtfo with that nonsenseThat's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
Wholly owned? lol.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
The Bush Administration negotiated the pull out date. Obama stuck to the schedule.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
No worries - Jeb is cratering.The people who would vote for Jeb don't care about the facts of who caused what and when.
Max will never acknowledge that, never.The Bush Administration negotiated the pull out date. Obama stuck to the schedule.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ray-odierno-jeb-bush-iraq_55ccd562e4b0cacb8d333f96?cps=gravity_5054_2699503734636920533&kvcommref=mostpopular
oopsThe Bush Administration negotiated the pull out date. Obama stuck to the schedule.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ray-odierno-jeb-bush-iraq_55ccd562e4b0cacb8d333f96?cps=gravity_5054_2699503734636920533&kvcommref=mostpopular
In 2003, I wrote a paper in college for an Ethnic Conflict class that essentially predicted the rise of ISIS and widespread ethnic violence in Iraq post-invasion. ISIS was a predictable result of George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. I'm not saying that Obama is blameless, but it is moronic to suggest that he is solely responsible.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
In Max's defense, it's hard to keep blaming Obama if you just rely on facts.ya ...facts always get in the way of a good argument
Jim Webb said the same thing in 2002.In 2003, I wrote a paper in college for an Ethnic Conflict class that essentially predicted the rise of ISIS and widespread ethnic violence in Iraq post-invasion. ISIS was a predictable result of George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. I'm not saying that Obama is blameless, but it is moronic to suggest that he is solely responsible.That's complete nonsense and revisionist history. ISIS is wholly owned by Obama because of the vacuum he left by pulling out way too early and then sitting idly by as it all went to hell.This isn't anything new. Conservatives have been blaming Obama for leaving Iran too early since 2010.
I think there's something to this argument- namely that, before they left, Obsma could have pressured the Shia government to do something to alleviate the plight of the Sunnis. That was talked about but didn't happen. Hillary suggested it but was overruled, so Ive read. If that's true then she doesn't deserve blame for this IMO. But Obama does. And he and Hillary both are responsible for arming all Syrian Rebels indiscriminately, and helping ISIS that way.
The person most responsible for ISIS is George W Bush. But a little of the blame, just a little, goes to Obama and Hillary.
OMG. This is like blaming the rise of the Nazis on Woodrow Wilson rather than Neville Chamberlain. Insanity.Amused to Death said:In Max's defense, it's hard to keep blaming Obama if you just rely on facts.BustedKnuckles said:ya ...facts always get in the way of a good argument
i must have missed the part when Obama met with the leaders of ISIS and offered them Czechoslovakia.OMG. This is like blaming the rise of the Nazis on Woodrow Wilson rather than Neville Chamberlain. Insanity.Amused to Death said:In Max's defense, it's hard to keep blaming Obama if you just rely on facts.BustedKnuckles said:ya ...facts always get in the way of a good argument
sounds like something that bozo Grover Cleveland would sayTo argue about which US President to blame for ISIS overstates our influence in the region and underestimates the complexity of the situation.
He got a losing sports city named after him. That's something, right?sounds like something that bozo Grover Cleveland would sayTo argue about which US President to blame for ISIS overstates our influence in the region and underestimates the complexity of the situation.
OMG. This is like blaming the rise of the Nazis on Woodrow Wilson rather than Neville Chamberlain. Insanity.Amused to Death said:In Max's defense, it's hard to keep blaming Obama if you just rely on facts.BustedKnuckles said:ya ...facts always get in the way of a good argument
WTFThe guy had 8 years to come up with the answer to one question, and he still doesn't have one...He's conflicted.That stupid here burns my eyes, its like he is trying to troll but incredibly bad at it
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-defends-george-w-bush-iraq-legacy-iowa-121337.html#ixzz3ijUoS1Ir
Scott Walker going all out to win votes....I would never vote for a president with that bald spot.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker doesn’t want you to think his bald spot is the result of something like bad genes or natural aging. That’s the kind of problem a Democrat would have. The presidential hopeful reminded a Washington Post reporter that the hairless patch on his scalp comes from a scar he received after bumping his head fixing a kitchen sink. This isn’t the first time Walker defended his hair without anyone really questioning it, having done so in an October 2014 visit with the Wisconsin State Journal’s editorial board.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2015/08/07/rise-of-islamic-state-was-a-willful-decision-former-dia-chief-michael-flynn/i must have missed the part when Obama met with the leaders of ISIS and offered them Czechoslovakia.OMG. This is like blaming the rise of the Nazis on Woodrow Wilson rather than Neville Chamberlain. Insanity.In Max's defense, it's hard to keep blaming Obama if you just rely on facts.ya ...facts always get in the way of a good argument
<Trump>Scott Walker going all out to win votes....I would never vote for a president with that bald spot.
Scott Walker Would Like to Remind You He Earned His Bald Spot in a Manly Injury
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker doesn’t want you to think his bald spot is the result of something like bad genes or natural aging. That’s the kind of problem a Democrat would have. The presidential hopeful reminded a Washington Post reporter that the hairless patch on his scalp comes from a scar he received after bumping his head fixing a kitchen sink. This isn’t the first time Walker defended his hair without anyone really questioning it, having done so in an October 2014 visit with the Wisconsin State Journal’s editorial board.
He likes people who don't bump their head...<Trump>Scott Walker going all out to win votes....I would never vote for a president with that bald spot.
Scott Walker Would Like to Remind You He Earned His Bald Spot in a Manly Injury
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker doesn’t want you to think his bald spot is the result of something like bad genes or natural aging. That’s the kind of problem a Democrat would have. The presidential hopeful reminded a Washington Post reporter that the hairless patch on his scalp comes from a scar he received after bumping his head fixing a kitchen sink. This isn’t the first time Walker defended his hair without anyone really questioning it, having done so in an October 2014 visit with the Wisconsin State Journal’s editorial board.
A real man would have fixed the sink without bumping his head.
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Fixed.<Trump>Scott Walker going all out to win votes....I would never vote for a president with that bald spot.
Scott Walker Would Like to Remind You He Earned His Bald Spot in a Manly Injury
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker doesn’t want you to think his bald spot is the result of something like bad genes or natural aging. That’s the kind of problem a Democrat would have. The presidential hopeful reminded a Washington Post reporter that the hairless patch on his scalp comes from a scar he received after bumping his head fixing a kitchen sink. This isn’t the first time Walker defended his hair without anyone really questioning it, having done so in an October 2014 visit with the Wisconsin State Journal’s editorial board.
A real man would havefixedhad the sink fixed by his servant*without bumping his head.
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he doesn't need help. he'll bring himself down.It's going to be interesting how you tear down Ben Carson. I await. From what has been posted on the Hillary thread/threads you have your day coming regarding any GOP guy/gal. Bring it, its all good.