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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (3 Viewers)
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Did I misspell her first name too? God I suck.I wondered if it was the spelling for GM, but you of all people...
ETA: That can't be the excuse for a lot of people, though, because they end up spelling her first name wrong, too.
General Malaise
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
No, no you didn't. Just lots of instances of "Carli" in this thread.Did I misspell her first name too? God I suck.
ETA: That can't be the excuse for a lot of people, though, because they end up spelling her first name wrong, too.
culdeus
Footballguy
Rubio has great value at +1500.
I think just straddling Clinton/Biden is the +EV play at this point given where things sit. Having a little Rubio to cover that side wouldn't be the worst way to be setup. Opportunities to hedge on these were great last cycle. InTrade was phenomenal when some GOP homer was just pouring money on Romney late.
I think just straddling Clinton/Biden is the +EV play at this point given where things sit. Having a little Rubio to cover that side wouldn't be the worst way to be setup. Opportunities to hedge on these were great last cycle. InTrade was phenomenal when some GOP homer was just pouring money on Romney late.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
When the female candidates try to be tough they just seem b***hy. IMO
General Malaise
Footballguy
No field, but THIS is interesting....
Hilary is +150 at Bovada, which is the clear favorite. Democrats are -150/Republicans +120 to win. However, in GENDER to win the POTUS: Male -170/Female +140.
So Hilary is the clear favorite, but the Gender odds favor a male.
krista4
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
He's gained no traction and the cnn people didn't even talk about him after the debate. He at least was on meet the press this weekend and sounded legitimate. I don't think the primary voters will gravitate towards him unfortunately.
the moops
Footballguy
When dudes can't handle a woman acting tough and resort to calling her #####y, they just seem like giant pricks. IMO
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I think with Walker gone, Kasich has an opportunity.
Let's say Trump actually wins Iowa. NH moderates are then desperate to find somebody else. Not Bush, too weak. Not Rubio, too conservative. So Kasich find have a window there...
Let's say Trump actually wins Iowa. NH moderates are then desperate to find somebody else. Not Bush, too weak. Not Rubio, too conservative. So Kasich find have a window there...
The Commish
Footballguy
Tim my man, are you capable of just letting things play out?? I can't imagine going to a "who done it" sort of movie with you 
squistion
Footballguy
You also said Mitt would own Obama right up until the day of the election, which shows how prescient you are.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Things will play out whether I comment on them or not. I also have been wrong so often already in this election cycle that it's not like any predictions I make from this point forward will add to my credibility...
Still, I haven't been nearly as wrong as Karl Rove has been, and he gets paid to make predictions.Anyhow, what's the point of having a discussion board if we're not going to discuss anything?
Righetti
Footballguy
is Kasich 'conservative' enough to get right-wing vote to come out in a general election? he is so much more qualified and so much more sane than the rest of them it is silly.... Out of the establishment guys, Christie will get burred by Bridgegate, Cruz is a wackjob, Rubio knows his stuff but it always sounds like he is reciting his notes and Bush is too weak.. i see Kasich as the GOP's best option
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Maybe not, but it's also possible that he's moderate enough to suppress what could otherwise be a very passionate anti-GOP candidate turnout. Imagine Trump or Carson as the GOP nominee. It's hard to imagine anyone left of Joe McCarthy staying home for that one. Kasich, on the other hand, is tolerable.
The Commish
Footballguy
Way to set that bar with RoveThings will play out whether I comment on them or not. I also have been wrong so often already in this election cycle that it's not like any predictions I make from this point forward will add to my credibility...
Anyhow, what's the point of having a discussion board if we're not going to discuss anything?
Discussions are one thing....having to predict every detail of the future has to be exhausting.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
My forecast is that Tim won't stop.Way to set that bar with RoveThings will play out whether I comment on them or not. I also have been wrong so often already in this election cycle that it's not like any predictions I make from this point forward will add to my credibility...
Anyhow, what's the point of having a discussion board if we're not going to discuss anything?
Discussions are one thing....having to predict every detail of the future has to be exhausting.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Trump is the most moderate of the republican candidates, so by your logic wouldn't that help him in NH?
timschochet
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
BURN.
Either your notebook is off or mine is.Bottomfeeder Sports said:
joffer
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
GreenNGold
Footballguy
He might be the most obnoxious or arrogant but his views are far more moderate (some of his views are liberal) than the other candidates and what the hardcore republicans who normally decide the primaries would like.
The republican "elite" or whatever you want to call them don't want him because he is not hardcore enough for them and won't be their puppet. The democrats are scared because he is the only republican that will have a chance at winning the general election (all the other potential nominees are bigger jokes or just straight up lunatics). I think Biden will beat Trump if he runs but Trump could easily beat Hilary.
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The General
Footballguy
Trump said he wants to raise taxes, is pro-choice, and isn't a bible thumper. He is more moderate than other Republicans in the field because most of them are lunatics.
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Not anymore he's not. But in any case you can't call this clown a moderate given his proposals regarding illegal immigrants.
dschuler
Footballguy
I think he changed his view to pro-life based on life experiences or something to that sort
joffer
Footballguy
i know he is actually, but during the campaign now?
RBM
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
I wasn't aware of that.
Call me a cynical but I think this and his new found favorite book, the Bible, are more about getting elected.
John Bender
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I wish he would enter. Rubio and Kashish are the only two Republicans I somewhat like, but I just don't get the feeling, yet, that either is ready to be top dog.
My current rankings:
Webb
Biden
Romney
Sanders
Rubio
Kashish
5 pound bag of poop
Everybody else
The General
Footballguy
I think it was in comparison to the other guys he's up against. There are some bat #### guys on the stage with him.
Trump is more of raging ahole with bat #### tendencies.
John Bender
Footballguy
Wish we could get a R candidate that would toe the line and not fold during the primary season into religious and personal freedom cramping bull####. There's some really smart people on the R side of things that would make great Presidents if they didn't have to pander to the religious side of the party. It's a shame, we'll probably never see one of those really smart Repubs become President.
Buckfast 1
Footballguy
Trump's attempts to pretend that he cares about abortion and the Bible are pretty hilarious. He clearly doesn't care about either."The Bible is my favorite book! I don't want to get into specifics about verses. The whole thing is incredible! Old Testament, New Testament. Equally fantastic!"
"Sure, I used to respond that I was pro-choice when asked whether I support partial birth abortions. But now I hate abortion! I had some friends that thought about aborting their baby, but now he's a superstar! He's fantastic! I'm pro-life now!"
I do think Trump is probably in reality the most moderate on social issues and is clearly just saying things that he knows Republicans want/need to hear from their candidate on religion and abortion.
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Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Actually Trump seems very sincere on why he changed to pro-life
"One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life."
"One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life."
The General
Footballguy
That seems more like he doesn't like seeing someone have an abortion. Who does?
That's different than working towards making them illegal.
That's different than working towards making them illegal.
lod01
Footballguy
Can you imagine the #### hole the US would be if they had a bunch of jesus freaks like Huckabee. We would be just like the crazy muslim except the leaders of this country would be telling everyone how they are in touch with the real god....kinda like the muslim crazies think they are.
Anyone spouting off about religion in politics is done in my book. Keep your worship #### to yourself. It has no place in govt.
Buckfast 1
Footballguy
What is the over-under on number of abortions that Trump has paid for? I would guess that the line would be at least three.
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joffer
Footballguy
you can't be this......oh wait.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Yes we know, everyone that isn't for who you like is either stupid or racist. Move along now little boy, you provide nothing.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Just saw the Chris Wallace interview with Fiorina from the weekend. She's a very solid candidate. I say this as an HP employee. I'm very concerned.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
All you need to know about her, besides all of her failures is in this single quote.
"There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore," said Carly Fiorina, chairman of Palo Alto information technology giant Hewlett Packard."
She doesn't want to make America great again like Mr. Trump, she wants to make America H1B1 again.
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