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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (4 Viewers)

I'm an unaffiliated / independent observer but please tell me you guys have someone else you'll be rolling out for the nomination. I'm hoping the current crop of goofballs is out there just to make the eventual surprise candidate look much better by comparison?

 
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
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1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.

 
pretty clear that the road to good polling numbers at this point is simply having your name in the news, whether it's good or bad.

 
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
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1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
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1) Did you even read the article? If you did you would see they have a sample question in there.

2) Based on who's opinion? Yours? Of course people you don't agree with are ALWAYS going to have stupid positions.

 
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
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1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
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A Washington Examiner article from a newsbusters.org blog talking about "research" done by MRC (Brent Bozell). Yep, that proves it.

 
Lehigh98 said:
I'm an unaffiliated / independent observer but please tell me you guys have someone else you'll be rolling out for the nomination. I'm hoping the current crop of goofballs is out there just to make the eventual surprise candidate look much better by comparison?
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I doubt anyone new enters the race. But if the Republicans can just get a little bit of ground traction from a few of the more traditional candidates (Rubio/Bush/Christie/Fiorina), then I think Trump and the crazies will fade into oblivion and everyone will quickly forget that the current circus ever existed.

 
At one point I would've agreed Trump will fade eventually, but now I see there is no way. He has just too many people fired up. Never seen anything like it.

 
RBM said:
At one point I would've agreed Trump will fade eventually, but now I see there is no way. He has just too many people fired up. Never seen anything like it.
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I think there's a lot of people upset at political correctness today. People don't even understand the rules anymore. One day, a word seems to be perfectly fine. The next day, the same word is suddenly hugely offensive. You have trigger words, microaggressions, people creating "safe spaces" where they ban words that are suddenly offensive.

Trump is tapping directly into this issue. Trump's point is we should be able to say things without everyone getting offended. That's what he stands for. When he comes out and says something and then people want to disqualify him from the race for it, it just proves his point and he gets even stronger politically.

The way to defeat Trump is to get really tolerant of people saying controversial things. If that is not done, then who knows, he might win.

 
Or put another way: Trump is the free speech candidate. Trump' campaign is about saying what you want without getting punished for it.

 
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
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1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
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Matt Lauer's question to Donald Trump on the Syrian refugee crisis on the October 26 Today show was representative of a policy question coming from the left: "You know the words on the base of that statue [The Statue of Liberty], it's not a pop quiz, 'Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.' You've said Syrian refugees fleeing conflict in their country, the ones who come here, they are going back. They are all going back....Do they not qualify as the tired and the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free?"

You see stuff like this as a valid question? It's a poorly worded condescending lecture, not a question. I'm no fan of Trump, but you see the same detritus getting thrown at serious candidates - Cruz, Rubio, etc.


3C said:
A Washington Examiner article from a newsbusters.org blog talking about "research" done by MRC (Brent Bozell). Yep, that proves it.
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The article is just putting numbers to something that's blitheringly obvious to any half sentient listener to these programs.

 
Lehigh98 said:
I'm an unaffiliated / independent observer but please tell me you guys have someone else you'll be rolling out for the nomination. I'm hoping the current crop of goofballs is out there just to make the eventual surprise candidate look much better by comparison?
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Nope. These recycled losers are all they can come up with. They do have Trump however.

 
lod01 said:
Lehigh98 said:
I'm an unaffiliated / independent observer but please tell me you guys have someone else you'll be rolling out for the nomination. I'm hoping the current crop of goofballs is out there just to make the eventual surprise candidate look much better by comparison?
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Nope. These recycled losers are all they can come up with. They do have Trump however.
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Well that's just wrong. If anything, this is one of the first GOP slates in a long time that isn't filled with recycled candidates. McCain? Recycled. Romney? Recycled. This group has Cruz, Christie, Carson, Fiorina, Rubio... They aren't recycled from previous campaigns.

So, to sum up: definitely losers, but not recycled. Brand new, fresh losers!

 
Rich Conway said:
lod01 said:
Lehigh98 said:
I'm an unaffiliated / independent observer but please tell me you guys have someone else you'll be rolling out for the nomination. I'm hoping the current crop of goofballs is out there just to make the eventual surprise candidate look much better by comparison?
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Nope. These recycled losers are all they can come up with. They do have Trump however.
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Well that's just wrong. If anything, this is one of the first GOP slates in a long time that isn't filled with recycled candidates. McCain? Recycled. Romney? Recycled. This group has Cruz, Christie, Carson, Fiorina, Rubio... They aren't recycled from previous campaigns.So, to sum up: definitely losers, but not recycled. Brand new, fresh losers!
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Christie is a loser.Signed,

NJ voters

(P.S.) In case you've forgotten Chris, NJ is that small state just east of PA you visit occasionally. You know, the people who pay for your campaign travel and Bridgegate defense team.

 
Sand said:
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
Click to expand...
1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
Click to expand...
Matt Lauer's question to Donald Trump on the Syrian refugee crisis on the October 26 Today show was representative of a policy question coming from the left: "You know the words on the base of that statue [The Statue of Liberty], it's not a pop quiz, 'Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.' You've said Syrian refugees fleeing conflict in their country, the ones who come here, they are going back. They are all going back....Do they not qualify as the tired and the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free?"

You see stuff like this as a valid question? It's a poorly worded condescending lecture, not a question. I'm no fan of Trump, but you see the same detritus getting thrown at serious candidates - Cruz, Rubio, etc.


3C said:
A Washington Examiner article from a newsbusters.org blog talking about "research" done by MRC (Brent Bozell). Yep, that proves it.
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The article is just putting numbers to something that's blitheringly obvious to any half sentient listener to these programs.
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Check and mate. Sand wins again.

 
Sand said:
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
Click to expand...
1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
Click to expand...
Matt Lauer's question to Donald Trump on the Syrian refugee crisis on the October 26 Today show was representative of a policy question coming from the left: "You know the words on the base of that statue [The Statue of Liberty], it's not a pop quiz, 'Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.' You've said Syrian refugees fleeing conflict in their country, the ones who come here, they are going back. They are all going back....Do they not qualify as the tired and the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free?"

You see stuff like this as a valid question? It's a poorly worded condescending lecture, not a question. I'm no fan of Trump, but you see the same detritus getting thrown at serious candidates - Cruz, Rubio, etc.


3C said:
A Washington Examiner article from a newsbusters.org blog talking about "research" done by MRC (Brent Bozell). Yep, that proves it.
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The article is just putting numbers to something that's blitheringly obvious to any half sentient listener to these programs.
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:lmao:

#skewed

 
Riversco said:
Or put another way: Trump is the free speech candidate. Trump' campaign is about saying what you want without getting punished for it.
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Ahh, OK. Last I saw, freedom of speech <> freedom of consequences resulting from said speech.

 
3C said:
Sand said:
The article is just putting numbers to something that's blitheringly obvious to any half sentient listener to these programs.
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:lmao: #skewed
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Website idea: unskeweddebates.com. Show what the questions would be if they were fair, and what the candidates answers to those questions would be. Naturally, it would just be a bunch of links to those Bad Lip Reading videos.

 
bakes said:
Riversco said:
Or put another way: Trump is the free speech candidate. Trump' campaign is about saying what you want without getting punished for it.
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Ahh, OK. Last I saw, freedom of speech <> freedom of consequences resulting from said speech.
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Conservatives love talking about the First Ammendment, they just don't really understand it.

 
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Sand said:
whoknew said:
Sand said:
Interesting report on the uphill battle GOP candidates have with big media. Consistently asked biased questions in a hostile way. Democrats, obviously, face a much easier road.
Click to expand...
1) What's a hostile/left leaning question?

2) Maybe the republican candidates get asked tougher questions because their positions are so stupid.
Click to expand...
Matt Lauer's question to Donald Trump on the Syrian refugee crisis on the October 26 Today show was representative of a policy question coming from the left: "You know the words on the base of that statue [The Statue of Liberty], it's not a pop quiz, 'Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.' You've said Syrian refugees fleeing conflict in their country, the ones who come here, they are going back. They are all going back....Do they not qualify as the tired and the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free?"

You see stuff like this as a valid question? It's a poorly worded condescending lecture, not a question. I'm no fan of Trump, but you see the same detritus getting thrown at serious candidates - Cruz, Rubio, etc.
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Yes of course its valid. The statue of liberty - and that sentence attached - has been a bedrock principle of the United States for a long time. Sadly, we have often strayed from that principle (see FDR sending away ships of Jews, Japanese internment camps), but those are the shameful episodes. Trump seems to want to return to those episodes. Indeed, he even cited internment camps as an example. Its completely fair, therefore, for Lauer to ask Trump about wanting to stray from long held US principles.

 
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bananafish said:
So who do we like for the debates? It will be interesting to see if any of the other candidates can land any shots on the Teflon Don (as if it would make any difference). Cruz will probably wuss out anyways but maybe Christie or Bush will step up. Wait, is Bush still at the big kids table?
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My guess is that Trump will try to put down Cruz as he is the guy closest to him in the polls. If Cruz returns fire rather than staring creepily into the camera like the pedophilic offspring of Goober and Colin Mochrie then there is the potential for fireworks.

 
bakes said:
urbanhack said:
How nice. Ted Cruz is helping Scott Walker raise money to pay off his campaign debt.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/594303/ted-cruz-wants-supporters-help-pay-scott-walkers-campaign-debt

make the ####### super pacs pay for this. what a joke. any individual donating to this is a lunatic.
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The state of Wisconsin will be paying for that dolt long after he leaves office.
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WI is doing fine - you're being a bit of a drama queen here. You should be more worried about the cost of electing Obama twice.

 
My path to victory is better than his.

Former Gov. Gilmore says he isn't getting out of presidential race

HOT SPRINGS — Jim Gilmore knows how things look. His low poll numbers. His exclusion from the debate stages.

But he’s got a message for the naysayers: “I ain’t going anywhere.”


“I intend to be the president of the United States,” he said.

Gilmore, a past Virginia governor waging a seemingly quixotic campaign for the White House, insists he has a roadmap to victory.

“We are carrying out a strategy,” he said. “We’re on the significant early ballots. I’m campaigning vigorously in New Hampshire. And I have the right ideas and credentials to be president.”

On Saturday, Gilmore, who is polling at less than 1 percent nationally, asked his home state constituents for their support during an appearance at the annual Republican Party of Virginia.

But even on this friendly turf, faith in a Gilmore 2016 victory was hard to come by.

“I like Jim Gilmore,” said Bill Lewis of Haymarket. “I would be happy if he was the president of the United States, but I just don’t think he’ll ever have the support to get very far in the race.”

Robin McNamara of Williamsburg said she liked what Gilmore did when he was governor from 1998 to 2002.

But she doesn’t see how he can make up so much ground at this point in the campaign.

“It’s hard when other people in the country aren’t able to get to know him,” she said, referring to Gilmore’s exclusion from the candidate debates due to his low-polling status.

McNamara was predicting a Jeb Bush victory in the jockeying for the Republican nomination. Lewis was backing Ben Carson.

This weekend’s gathering of Republican Party faithful was expected to draw about 700 people to The Omni Homestead Resort in Bath County.

Gilmore hosted a late afternoon town hall with about 60 people. Over the course of an hour, he laid out a tax cut proposal, spoke at length about national security and the Middle East, and denounced Donald Trump for “talking like a fascist” when it comes to Hispanics and Muslims.

“We’ve seen this kind of conduct throughout history, and it is wrong,” he said of Trump, adding while radical Islam is a serious threat it is an affront to paint all Muslims with that brush.

“We know the Democratic Party is moving further and further left and becoming much more of a socialist party; they are a socialist party,” he said. “It is incumbent on us not to become the fascist party of the United States.”

Gilmore predicted Trump’s dominance in the polls will ultimately flame out. But in the meantime, his camp hopes the distraction caused by Trump will give Gilmore more time to build momentum before support coalesces behind another contender.

“Anything is possible,” said Laura Logie, a supporter who’s known Gilmore since their college days and who helped him collect petition signatures to get on Virginia’s primary ballot.

“I still believe in miracles,” Logie said. “I want him to get his message out. Even if he doesn’t win, he has an important message.”

Gilmore was the last of the 13 candidates who filed for a spot on the March 1 Republican ballot. He’s on the ballot in a handful of other states, including New Hampshire and South Carolina, and said he’s working toward more, though he will not be in all 50 states.

“I’m asking for your support,” he said. “The pieces are in place. We can do this. But I’ve got to win my home state.”

Jackson Sismour, a sophomore at Virginia Tech who attended Saturday’s town hall, said he came in that day knowing little about Gilmore.

“I really didn’t even know he was running,” he said, adding he tagged along to the event with friends.

Sismous is undecided in the nomination race, and said he liked Gilmore’s strong views on national security and his Virginia roots.

But would he consider voting for Gilmore? He mulled it over.

“I know he’s not exactly at the front of the pack,” he said, adding it would be difficult to chose a candidate with little chance of success. “I’ll have to do some more research after this before I can really say.”
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