Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

[shadrap]

So you R's, if you win the WH, you will have control of the Presidency, the Senate and the House. Give me your top 10 things that will change for the good. Even 5 if you can muster up that many. For example, 'The debt will start to be paid down'. 'Wages will go up'. 'Taxes for middle class will be cut.' 'Cuts will be made to welfare losers'.

Just tell me how glorious it's going to be with R's running everything.

You can't use 'we will get to keep our guns' because you were never losing them anyway or negatives like 'raising the SS retirement age'.

I'm trying to figure out why I would vote in a loser like Rubio or Cruz in case one of those 2 hammerheads somehow gets the nomination over Trump.

I would start with enforcing the laws we have & balancing a budget. Don't like the law change them through the legislative process. Nice post & you make a good point. Would take me some time due to an influx of booze. Cheers.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Trump is oranger than ever right now.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Trump is oranger than ever right now.

He heard it was the new black.

 

[Higgs]

Im saying nobody is looking at him as a Hispanic (politician). First or not.

For you to get upset and levy anything towards democrats on the matter is laughable.

Sorry about that Rafael.

I'm assuming you're white. If I said that I don't look at you as white because your politics at times appear to be too pro-black and anti-white, you wouldn't find that odd? My bet is that you'd scream some type of racism on my part.

Again, Rubio would have received the loud credit you are looking for. How does that square with your position? A: It doesn't.

It squares exactly with my position, which is that Liberals (media included) use race in an arbitrary fashion to suit their interests. So you get twisted results like - black people can't be racist; or a Hispanic only gets recognized for his historic achievement if he thinks a certain way.Race is either absolute or it isn't.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

If it is Hillary vs Rubio, Julian Castro becomes the obvious choice to try and neutralize him. Meanwhile Rubio should take Kasich to put Ohio in play. But all this makes too much sense and do will probably never happen.

Castro is the no. 1 choice, regardless of opponent. - The only hitch with Hillary is she is such an old politico that she might go with some old hand she can trust.

You think there's someone she trusts?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If it is Hillary vs Rubio, Julian Castro becomes the obvious choice to try and neutralize him. Meanwhile Rubio should take Kasich to put Ohio in play. But all this makes too much sense and do will probably never happen.

Castro is the no. 1 choice, regardless of opponent. - The only hitch with Hillary is she is such an old politico that she might go with some old hand she can trust.

You think there's someone she trusts?

I'll get back to you, this may take a while...

 

[shadrap]

I actually like Carson, but because he is black & Republican, the toss out line from a few, was Republicans trying to shake the racist claims by liking the guy. Sorry guys & girls as much as you want to paint the picture racist, it just isn't so.

Way too much painting with a broad brush for my taste, but if it makes you feel better keep up the racist rhetoric against those who politics differ from yours.. By the way Timmy has scaled way back. A thank you should not be necessary, but whatever.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Christie looks really, really tired. And rumpled.

He had to run for president? It looks like it's killing him.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Trump is oranger than ever right now.

He heard it was the new black.

I thought he investing heavily in winning Tennessee.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Christie looks really, really tired. And rumpled.

He had to run for president? It looks like it's killing him.

If he wins they'll have to find that Taft bathtub.

 

[culdeus]

Thought Christie got thumb stomach. Not working?

 

[Righetti]

Christie looks really, really tired. And rumpled.

He had to run for president? It looks like it's killing him.

He's not built for a marathon.

 

[SIDA!]

Apparently you can't constantly talk about minorities in a negative light and then expect those same minorities to cheer for you.

Who knew?

What's the proper way to refer to Rubio and Cruz as they edge closer to going full Trump? Tio Tom, or Uncle Tomas?

More classic hypocrisy from the Left on race. They love to say that race and color matters, unless of course the person doesn't have their same political beliefs. So Ben Carson isn't really black, and Rubio and Cruz aren't really Hispanic. In those cases it's not race or color that matters, it's their beliefs. Love to see you guys twist yourselves into pretzels.

And it goes beyond this.

Don't forget, they also know when a man is actually a woman.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Im saying nobody is looking at him as a Hispanic (politician). First or not.

For you to get upset and levy anything towards democrats on the matter is laughable.

Sorry about that Rafael.

I'm assuming you're white. If I said that I don't look at you as white because your politics at times appear to be too pro-black and anti-white, you wouldn't find that odd? My bet is that you'd scream some type of racism on my part.

Again, Rubio would have received the loud credit you are looking for. How does that square with your position? A: It doesn't.

It squares exactly with my position, which is that Liberals (media included) use race in an arbitrary fashion to suit their interests. So you get twisted results like - black people can't be racist; or a Hispanic only gets recognized for his historic achievement if he thinks a certain way.Race is either absolute or it isn't.

Yeah I recall being told that Mitt Romney was the first one before. Odd.

 

[Rove!]

Kathleen McKinley ‏@KatMcKinley

NYT: Why Cuz/Rubio not historic "Neither Mr. Cruz nor Mr. Rubio meets conventional expectations of how Latino pols are supposed to behave"

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/11/06/3589750/latino-voters-midterms-republicans-democrats/This is so AWFUL.

NYT - "Obama not really black either".

it's racist

Can you link the actual tweet/article? Your link just goes to some MILF's twitter page.

ETA: Never mind, I googled it. As expected it's a silly misrepresentation of the actual column (just one guy, not the Times editorial staff BTW), which talks about why their win/3rd place showing are not being "celebrated as historic, or at least worth a headline or two." The idea is that Latinos do not embrace them, thus no celebration. The column then goes on cite a number of examples of the Latino community rejecting them, including a Univision anchor and the country's largest Spanish-language newspaper, and then goes into more nuanced stuff about "Latino political culture."

So, that woman is full of ####. Nice-looking, though.

Even in context, that's still pretty racist. About a third of Latinos, give or take, skew used to skew right, so it's pretty insulting. The word " behave" is especially poorly chosen.

FYP

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/11/06/3589750/latino-voters-midterms-republicans-democrats/

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Here is the bottom line which most reasonable people looking at this map should agree with:

If the Republicans want to beat Hillary Clinton, they HAVE to go with Rubio.

That's it. He stands a decent chance of beating her; it's unlikely that anybody else will. Now if the Dems choose Sanders that's a different story. But assuming for the sake of this post they won't, the GOP MUST choose Rubio. And I have to believe that, in the end they will, although I remain uncertain about Trump.

Kasich could beat her. He'd get Ohio. With the right running mate he could get Florida.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Apparently you can't constantly talk about minorities in a negative light and then expect those same minorities to cheer for you.

Who knew?

What's the proper way to refer to Rubio and Cruz as they edge closer to going full Trump? Tio Tom, or Uncle Tomas?

More classic hypocrisy from the Left on race. They love to say that race and color matters, unless of course the person doesn't have their same political beliefs. So Ben Carson isn't really black, and Rubio and Cruz aren't really Hispanic. In those cases it's not race or color that matters, it's their beliefs. Love to see you guys twist yourselves into pretzels.

Pretty sure that's up to the lantinos and hispanics.Not you, me, or the forum posters. And we don't see hardly any of them touting/accepting Cruz as one of their own.

Not true of Rubio and for Carson in their cases.

So you're saying that white people must defer to blacks and hispanics as to who is really black and Hispanic?Pass the pretzels please.

Hispanics find CRUZ himself disregarding his own heritage as well. http://www.laopinion.com/2016/02/02/ted-cruz-primer-latino-en-ganar-las-asambleas-de-iowa-por-que-no-estamos-celebrando/

why wouldn't they, he's a damn Canadian...

 

[Jeremy]

Here is the bottom line which most reasonable people looking at this map should agree with:

If the Republicans want to beat Hillary Clinton, they HAVE to go with Rubio.

That's it. He stands a decent chance of beating her; it's unlikely that anybody else will. Now if the Dems choose Sanders that's a different story. But assuming for the sake of this post they won't, the GOP MUST choose Rubio. And I have to believe that, in the end they will, although I remain uncertain about Trump.

I tend to agree with the bolded, but it's important to remember Rubio hasn't really been tested yet. Christie humorously pointed it out with his "bubble boy" tirade earlier this week. Most people right now know him as the "not insane" choice on the Republican side. Cruz is evil. Trump is crazy and evil. Rubio is a nice looking kid who seems normal. Maybe looks more like a VP than a president. We'll see how he does when he's out of that bubble.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Christie looks really, really tired. And rumpled.

He had to run for president? It looks like it's killing him.

He's not built for a marathon.

Or a sprint.

I guess running for Governor is more like waddling over to the fridge,

 

[3C's]

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/ted-cruzs-logo-hilariously-appropriate

 

[Chadstroma]

Here is the bottom line which most reasonable people looking at this map should agree with:

If the Republicans want to beat Hillary Clinton, they HAVE to go with Rubio.

That's it. He stands a decent chance of beating her; it's unlikely that anybody else will. Now if the Dems choose Sanders that's a different story. But assuming for the sake of this post they won't, the GOP MUST choose Rubio. And I have to believe that, in the end they will, although I remain uncertain about Trump.

Kasich could beat her. He'd get Ohio. With the right running mate he could get Florida.

I really don't think Clinton is going to be such a hard candidate to beat. The bruising she is taking in the primary only helps as well- pushing her further left which will give her fits trying to come back to the middle in the general. Whether or not the scandals end up impacting the race themselves it will serve one purpose to remind people that they do not trust her. Trust really is a major factor on how people vote and she has a very big problem with that. Now, she is still a viable candidate so sending someone like Trump against her just hands her the election. But I think Rubio, Kasich, Christie and Bush could all beat her.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Questions for any who know -

- Who are the moderators for the next debate?

- has it been decided if Fiorina is in or out of the debate?

 

[TripItUp]

Looking forward to tonight's debate...

 

[joffer]

Looking forward to tonight's debate...

id rather have root canal without anesthetic

 

[jamny]

Looking forward to tonight's debate...

id rather have root canal without anesthetic

I doubt that.

 

[the moops]

If Sanders is the nominee, he will be destroyed by almost any Republican candidate (although against Trump or Cruz, who knows?)

by almost every candidate except 2 of the only 3 that have a chance

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Questions for any who know -

- Who are the moderators for the next debate?

- has it been decided if Fiorina is in or out of the debate?

It will be moderated by "World News Tonight" anchor David Muir and Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and co-anchor of "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Martha Raddatz.Fiorina is out.

Ridiculous they don't have Fiorina on stage to at least hopefully confront Trump.

 

[The Dude]

If Obama takes executive action and signs mandatory background checks for guns (eliminating the gun show loophole) - no matter what the GOP candidates are saying WOULD they really overturn that and/or obamacare if elected?

The first time there's a mass shooting, everybody is going to say the GOP is to blame (especially if it's someone without a background check).

Or really take health care away from tons of us citizens.

I don;t know that they will follow through - just pandering to the crowd.

Thoughts?

 

[Higgs]

It's on right now. ABC. I think the Mods are Progessives which should be interesting.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Live streaming

 

[SIDA!]

Hoping John Kasich does well tonight and finishes third or better on Election day.

In ready to see this field narrowed to trump, cruz, Rubio and kasich.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

If Obama takes executive action and signs mandatory background checks for guns (eliminating the gun show loophole) - no matter what the GOP candidates are saying WOULD they really overturn that and/or obamacare if elected?

The first time there's a mass shooting, everybody is going to say the GOP is to blame (especially if it's someone without a background check).

Or really take health care away from tons of us citizens.

I don;t know that they will follow through - just pandering to the crowd.

Thoughts?

Rubio with a Tea Party House and GOP Senate? I think that's just the tip of the iceberg of what they'd do.

 

[Higgs]

Lol. Already a cluster #### with the intros.

 

[Porkchop Express]

This is AWESOME!

 

[Higgs]

It's a three ring circus.

 

[RBM]

Holy #### ABC #### show can't get the intros right.

 

[SIDA!]

Ben Carson deciding to hit the brakes in the fast lane. ..

 

[Shula-holic]

That was pitiful

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

That was awesome

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

out of the gate.

 

[SameSongNDance]

#### that had me in tears.

 

[Higgs]

First question out of the gate is s negative.

 

[RBM]

Very good start for Trump.

 

[RBM]

First question out of the gate is s negative.

Yup, disgrace. Trump killed it though.

 

[Shula-holic]

Ted's pounding the podium, take off your shoe Nikita

 

[Higgs]

1st 2 questions are negatives about Trump.

 

[SameSongNDance]

These questions are trash.

 

[SoBeDad]

Master debater Cruz off to a poor start.

 

[Shula-holic]

That's brutal for Ted

 

[SIDA!]

What a hatchet job to prop up Rubio right now with these questions.