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Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

Gr00vus said:
I really don't understand clinging to the climate change denial stuff at this point. Why is that such an immovable part of the Republican platform? Accepting that it is happening isn't the same thing as agreeing to whatever solutions are forwarded to address it. Accept it and give us a conservative approach to dealing with the problem.
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No more compromising on the liberal agenda, that window is now closed.  You should have went for that one earlier if it was so darn important.  It's a good thing nothing was done anyways, the warming has been a fraction of what the alarmists predicted and Warren Buffett confirmed catasteophic climate change is an imaginary problem from a real word destruction point of view.  

 
spreagle said:
No more compromising on the liberal agenda, that window is now closed.  You should have went for that one earlier if it was so darn important.  It's a good thing nothing was done anyways, the warming has been a fraction of what the alarmists predicted and Warren Buffett confirmed catasteophic climate change is an imaginary problem from a real word destruction point of view.  
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Smack Tripper said:
Ted Cruz and his father and other religious links to this gay stuff is kooky... I thought Canadians were more tolerant?
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Sharing the stage with, and being introduced by, a pastor saying he wants to kill all the gays?  No problem.

Sitting in the audience while a pastor says "God #### America" in the context of a discussion of America's checkered racial past?  Outrageous!

 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/10/a_contested_republican_convention_explained.html

Good read on pretty much everything to do with a potential contested convention. A couple points I found interesting:

But while the bulk of delegates arrive in Cleveland bound to a particular candidate, that doesn’t mean they necessarily personally favor that candidate. A Trump delegate could very well loathe Trump; a Ted Cruz delegate might prefer John Kasich. And so on. Some states allow candidates to select the delegates that will represent them—making them more likely to remain loyal even once unbound—but those delegates only account for about 14 percent of the total. The vast majority of the rest are selected during state or district conventions that are held well after the actual state primaries or caucuses. Those slots tend to be filled with rank-and-file Republicans who are involved with the state and local party, making them theoretically more open to the GOP establishment’s anybody-but-Trump entreaties than primary voters have been.
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When you hear that “anything could happen” at a contested convention, this is a big reason why—anything really is possible since the convention rulebook can be changed before the delegates have the chance to select a nominee.

In a normal year, the RNC rules committee makes a few relatively minor convention tweaks that the delegates then sign off on, but the major nomination-deciding rules stay the same. This, though, is not a normal year. (The front-runner pulled out steaks at a victory speech—not normal.) In theory, the rules committee could craft language that would do what Ted Kennedy tried and failed to do at the Democratic convention four decades ago: Unbind the national delegates from the candidates they were sent to the convention to vote for.

The more realistic scenario, though, is the one we’ve already discussed: Trump arrives with a plurality of delegates but not the majority needed to win the nomination outright. At that point, the rules committee would go to work on smaller changes designed to undermine Trump’s chances of surviving the floor flight that would ensue. The rule that has probably gotten the most attention is Rule 40, which requires a candidate to have the support of the majority of at least eight state delegations in order to have his or her name placed into nomination. That rule will almost certainly be rewritten at a contested convention. Otherwise, it is possible that Trump—and Trump alone—would be the only name on the first ballot, in effect handing him the nomination. The rules committee will want to tweak that rule to include however many of Trump’s rivals would create the greatest chance at a deadlock in the first round or two.
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Rubio endorses Kasich for Ohio race.

"If you are a Republican primary voter in Ohio and you want to defeat Donald Trump, your best chance in Ohio is John Kasich," Rubio spokesperson Conant said. 

:wub:

To which the Kasich camp replied   "We were going to win in OH without his help, just as he's going to lose in FL w/o ours"

:boxing:

 
squistion said:
Hmmm...

MSNBC ‏@MSNBC 4h4 hours ago

.@MarcoRubio: I still intend to support the Republican nominee "but it's getting harder every day."
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Kailani Koenig ‏@kailanikm 3h3 hours ago


Kasich on if he'd still support Trump as nom: "Makes it extremely difficult." When pressed, said to "take a deep breath + see where it goes"
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It would have been much easier if the GOP had disavowed Trump months ago, it will be a painful experience now.

 
Righetti said:
Rubio is going to out-do Jeb! again.  Jeb! got schlonged in Bush Country, Rubio is poised to get schlonged in Marco-ville
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Rubio's stubbornness will be his downfall. If he falls to third in FL it could have long term effects to his political career.

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
sho nuff said:
You read that statement and think he has a screw loose?
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No, I think he's trying for a VP spot. If he thinks he can win the GOP nomination I think he has a screw loose. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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He has basically stated that he knows the only chance he has is to win Ohio, keep Don from getting enough delegates, and get the win at a brokered convention.
At this point, the way the GOP has handled this, anything is possible :shrug:

 
Rogi said:
Kasich might not have enough signatures to be on the Pennsylvania ballot.  Not sure what this guy is trying to prove at this point by sticking around.
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Could be but since no one challenged it in time he'll be on the ballot. And he'll do well.

 
Rogi said:
Rubio's stubbornness will be his downfall. If he falls to third in FL it could have long term effects to his political career.
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People keep saying this, but Marion Barry smoked crack on video and he was back in office mere months after getting out of jail.  If he falls to third it'll be forgotten inside of a year.

 
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NorvilleBarnes said:
No, I think he's trying for a VP spot. If he thinks he can win the GOP nomination I think he has a screw loose. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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He's said many times and as recently as after last Thursdays debate that he will not take a VP position. Sure it could be smoke, but why would he say that if he didn't mean it? He has said he has the second best job in America as Gov. of Ohio and no way would he go for VP.

 
Mr.Pack said:
He's said many times and as recently as after last Thursdays debate that he will not take a VP position. Sure it could be smoke, but why would he say that if he didn't mean it? He has said he has the second best job in America as Gov. of Ohio and no way would he go for VP.
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He's saying that because if he said he's running for VP his numbers would tank and then he wouldn't be a good VP pick. His best shot at becoming the VP pick of the likely nominee is to continue to run for the nomination himself. I'm not claiming any inside knowledge here - I could be completely wrong - but I don't buy for a minute that he would turn down the VP spot with either Cruz or Trump at the top.

 
dparker713 said:
People keep saying this, but Marion Barry smoked crack on video and he was back in office mere months after getting out of jail.  If he falls to third it'll be forgotten inside of a year.
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Marion Barry was beloved by his constituents. Marco Rubio only got 48.9% of the vote in his senate election.

 
Rogi said:
Rubio's stubbornness will be his downfall. If he falls to third in FL it could have long term effects to his political career.
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And this is exactly why we are where we are with our government. They have made careers out of it instead of serving say 8 years max (like the President) and going back into the work force.

TERM LIMITS!!!!!!!

 
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Rogi said:
Rubio's stubbornness will be his downfall. If he falls to third in FL it could have long term effects to his political career.
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Mmmmm, no. No politician ever helped his career by dropping out of a race, it is a death knell. If he backed out now his donors will not back him in his race for governor.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Mmmmm, no. No politician ever helped his career by dropping out of a race, it is a death knell. If he backed out now his donors will not back him in his race for governor.
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Has any politician helped his career by losing his home state in a presidential primary?   I wonder how often this happens.

 
Rogi said:
Has any politician helped his career by losing his home state in a presidential primary?   I wonder how often this happens.
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I should have been more clear, dropping out would *hurt his career IMO. It's essentially like welshing on a loan. - If he stays on IMO it neither helps not hurts his career. There are other fundamentals at play besides final finish like the next time he calls a donor asking for money. Just because he loses to Trump for preside doesn't mean he's not viable in-state, however there's never coming back from welshing on his word.

 
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I posted this in the other thread, but- in the middle of Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard piece last night urging the anti Trump forces not to give up, he wrote that if forced to, he and his buddies would vote for an "independent Republican" so as to "save the honor of the GOP"...

 
[scooter] said:
Nixon lost California in 1968 but won the nomination and the election.
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1968 was a little quirky in that Nixon wasn't even on the ballot in California and Ronald Reagan won most of the delegates as a part of a "Stop Nixon" movement hoping to be compromise candidate in a brokered convention (sound familiar?) Details from Wiki:
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Ronald_Reagan


1968 Presidential election[edit]


Main article: United States presidential election, 1968
Shortly after the beginning of his term as California governor, Reagan tested the presidential waters in 1968 as part of a "Stop Nixon" movement, hoping to cut into Nixon's Southern support[9] and be a compromise candidate[10] if neither Nixon nor second-place Nelson Rockefeller received enough delegates to win on the first ballot at the Republican convention. However, by the time of the convention Nixon had 692 delegate votes, 25 more than he needed to secure the nomination, followed by Rockefeller with Reagan in third place.[9]
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