***Official 2017-18 Hot Stove League Thread: Peter Bourjos & Ryan Flaherty are signs the end is near (2 Viewers)

[JaxBill]

Bunch of reporters saying Jeter screwed Florida and was conspiring with Yankees. That's not fair as he didn't give Stanton this contact and he also had deals with both st Louis and San Francisco worked out but Stanton rejected them both. 

If he is going to sell off all of the marketable pieces of the team, Marlins fans will stay away in droves.

Oh, wait.

 

[JaxBill]

Very disappointing day. My kids have watched Stanton since AA.

I could understand him wanting to go back to LA since that's where he's from (and hits extremely well).

As for Jeter, I don't think it's collusion. More of, if you can't afford a team, why did you buy it?

MIght have to re-think my ExtraInnings purchase next year. Looking like a 5 or 6 team league, none of which I like.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Yankees have bigger needs than power hitting right fielders. Back to their ways of huge contracts. Guess they didn't learn their lesson. 

Some truth to this, but their books are pretty clean.  They only have three other contracts after 2018.  Though they are pretty big.  But MLB revenues are looking good and obviously they are at the top.

 

[shadyridr]

Wow yanks gave up two nothing prospects

 

[Hilts]

Wow yanks gave up two nothing prospects

It was a salary dump. Did you expect them to offer anything significant? 

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Will Jeter be giving gift baskets to all 19 remaining Marlins fans?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Brandon Morrow signs with the Cubs. No word on whether he is the team's new closer or will have the same role he did in LA. 

 

[Limp Ditka]

And people thought I was silly for suggesting that JDM to the Yankees made all too much sense becuase they had a full OF already.

Think the Stanton move forces Boston to move on JDM

 

[jfranco77]

And people thought I was silly for suggesting that JDM to the Yankees made all too much sense becuase they had a full OF already.

Think the Stanton move forces Boston to move on JDM

I think they're just going to sign Hosmer and call it a day. JDM requires Hanley to play 1B or ride the pine. 

 

[Grahamburn]

Brandon Morrow signs with the Cubs. No word on whether he is the team's new closer or will have the same role he did in LA. 

Likely a prominent role on the DL.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I think they're just going to sign Hosmer and call it a day. JDM requires Hanley to play 1B or ride the pine. 

Red Sox have 22 million reasons to keep Hanley’s ABs down.

2019 Option Vests with 1,050 PA between 2017-18

 

[Limp Ditka]

So Jeets is a no show at the Winter Meetings?

 

[shadyridr]

So Jeets is a no show at the Winter Meetings?

Do owners typically go to them?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Do owners typically go to them?

He's not just an owner.

Onley taking issue with it and I'd like to think that he knows what he's talking about

Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN

The Marlins are executing major franchise-changing deals, including the swap of their best player, and the head of baseball operations -- Derek Jeter -- should be at the winter meetings to explain the moves; it's a responsibility that comes with the title. He is not here.

9:28 AM - Dec 11, 2017

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[shadyridr]

He's not just an owner.

Onley taking issue with it and I'd like to think that he knows what he's talking about

Who wouldve thought Jeter would end up being hated and ARod beloved a few years after their retirements.

 

[Hilts]

I think they're just going to sign Hosmer and call it a day. JDM requires Hanley to play 1B or ride the pine. 

They're reportedly looking into acquiring Abreu. That would be a pretty good fit as well, and arguably a better fit over Hosmer. 

 

[Limp Ditka]

Who wouldve thought Jeter would end up being hated and ARod beloved a few years after their retirements.

Its fascinating to watch

 

[Good Posting Judge]

There is no way jeter couldve done real due diligence on that yankees deal, right?

 

[Limp Ditka]

There is no way jeter couldve done real due diligence on that yankees deal, right?

The guy's not willing to drive 90 minutes from Tampa to Orlando to do his job, so I doubt it

 

[shadyridr]

There is no way jeter couldve done real due diligence on that yankees deal, right?

They hired Gary Denbo as director of player development from the Yankees. 

 

[Eephus]

They hired Gary Denbo as director of player development from the Yankees. 

Den Bour will be de next to go to da Bronx

 

[Limp Ditka]

Supposedly Jeter at MNF game becuase that’s what’s important to baseball executives this week. 

 

[cosjobs]

Will Jeter be giving gift baskets to all 19 remaining Marlins fans?

Fruit baskets full of sour grapes

 

[Capella]

Supposedly Jeter at MNF game becuase that’s what’s important to baseball executives this week. 

Embarrassing. What an awful franchise. 

 

[Limp Ditka]

Embarrassing. What an awful franchise. 

But hey! RE2PECT

 

[Limp Ditka]

For some reason the Padres want Chase Headley and his $13m salary back.

 

[Eephus]

Chase Headley is heading back to San Diego in a salary dump.  The Prellers also get an arm in Bryan Mitchell who should get a shot at a back-end SP or bullpen role.  Jabari Blash is part of the package for the Yankees but he's out of options.

I'm glad to have Headley back in the NL West because of the way Jon Miller pronounces his name.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Chase Headley is now the highest paid Padre, making almost 3x as much as the next closest position player (Will Myers $4.5m) and double Travis Wood (6.5M)

 

[Limp Ditka]

Boston is not in a good place. Already well over the luxury tax threshold and the Yankees have maneuvered themselves down to just over $150m. The Yankees still have almost $50m to spend, if they choose to and some viable prospects that could be moved reasonably priced, controllable talent

 

[shadyridr]

For some reason the Padres want Chase Headley and his $13m salary back.

Lmao thanks Padres!

 

[shadyridr]

 I'm wondering if Miguel andujar will play 3b or perhaps they resign Frazier who they loved. 

 

[Northern Voice]

Boston is not in a good place. Already well over the luxury tax threshold and the Yankees have maneuvered themselves down to just over $150m. The Yankees still have almost $50m to spend, if they choose to and some viable prospects that could be moved reasonably priced, controllable talent

They're in a better place than Toronto/Baltimore/Tampa :(  

 

[jfranco77]

 I'm wondering if Miguel andujar will play 3b or perhaps they resign Frazier who they loved. 

Yeah, I think a ToddFather reunion is most likely - I think they can get him a lot cheaper than Headley's 13mil. And he can platoon with Bird or play 3 days a week if Andujar and Gleyber both turn out to be good.

Could be clearing 3B for a ridiculous Machado/Donaldson trade, but I doubt it. Still, you never know. They still have basically all their prospects and a lot of cap space. And now they really have no place to put Clint Frazier.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Machado rental avail.

 

[shadyridr]

Yankees have the prospects to get Fullmer and they like him a lot. Frazier & Adams for Fullmer?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Never thought about it until now, but Ryan Schimpf just screams Tampa Bay Rays

 

[jfranco77]

Yankees have the prospects to get Fullmer and they like him a lot. Frazier & Adams for Fullmer?

Maybe just take Kinsler's contract and give them Frasier for Fulmer and Kinsler? 

 

[shadyridr]

Machado rental avail.

He wants to play SS

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Cardinals supposedly the favorites for Ozuna. Yelich expected to go too.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Yankees have the prospects to get Fullmer and they like him a lot. Frazier & Adams for Fullmer?

Yes please 

 

[shadyridr]

Cardinals supposedly the favorites for Ozuna. Yelich expected to go too.

Derek Jeter starting to sound like Oprah

"You get a Marlin, you get a Marlin, everybody gets a Marlin"

 

[JaxBill]

Supposedly the Marlins are slashing payroll form 110 Mil to 55 Mil.

That's less than the NHL salary cap.

That would be lower than any team last year.

Heck, looking at historical numbers, the 1998 San Diego Padres had a payroll of 53 MIL.

So why was this ownership group approved again?

 

[shadyridr]

Supposedly the Marlins are slashing payroll form 110 Mil to 55 Mil.

That's less than the NHL salary cap.

That would be lower than any team last year.

Heck, looking at historical numbers, the 1998 San Diego Padres had a payroll of 53 MIL.

So why was this ownership group approved again?

embarrassment to baseball.

 

[Eephus]

Supposedly the Marlins are slashing payroll form 110 Mil to 55 Mil.

That's less than the NHL salary cap.

That would be lower than any team last year.

Heck, looking at historical numbers, the 1998 San Diego Padres had a payroll of 53 MIL.

So why was this ownership group approved again?

Burnishing Loria's legacy

 

[Limp Ditka]

Cubs ink Smyly for 2/$10

 

[shadyridr]

Ohtani has a damaged ligament in his pitching elbow?

 

[Grahamburn]

Ohtani has a damaged ligament in his pitching elbow?

Don’t all pitchers pretty match have that? It’s just a matter of when. 

 

[Kraft...]

Cubs ink Smyly for 2/$10

Pineda got a similar contract, both good risk reward deals IMO

 

[Limp Ditka]

Ozuna to Cards appears to be done

 

[Eephus]

Sam Miller‏ @SamMillerBB Dec 11

Excepting Jose Fernandez, the Marlins' all-time top 25 players, by WAR: - One left as free agent - One waived - Three two still on the club - Twenty twenty one traded

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