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Because the other guys may not have baggage--they may just suck at football.
Cooks is who I wanted initially. The combine numbers don't turn me off that much. It's more about what I've learned about his off the field stuff that does. IDK. I trust Howie. Hopefully they make the right choice. So many variables.
There's always that one team who tries a reclamation project and it blows up in their face. My issue is he had another incident this past November. That's a very short time still from then till now. Also with the reports he was using homophobic remarks to the lady who's friends were Lesbians really hits home to me. I have a gay family member and if anyone insulted them like that I'd have zero problems decking them or getting into their face. The Parking lot incident was pretty bad from reports too. Didn't hurt the female but did threaten to use his vehicle to hurt her or at least intimidate her to relenquish the ticket. Was also screaming at her do you know who I am as well as ripping the ticket and throwing it in her face.
I don't see it either but there's some crazy mocks coming out right now. I don't pay attention to any besides Mayock's who does 1 and it's usually the week of the draft that Wednesday night before the draft Thursday and does it live.
Wasn't there also reports that someone in her party called him he "n" word as well? Or did you only read her side of the story.
I'm pretty sure it was a guy too. I'm sure that will hit home and you'd be all in their face ready to kick some ###!
You do know the argument started outside and Mixon followed her inside and confronted her so she tried to drop it but he came back to cause trouble. I don't know which one started it and they are both made horrible mistake but lets not act like he didn't have an opportunity to just walk away.
Seriously, can't wait until we don't draft Mixon so this is done.I would love to throw a poll up, what is worse:
1) 4 pages of discussing a rookie prospect who likely will never make the Eagles, in addition to maybe 2 posts actually related to football ability
2) The Sam Bradford back and forth from the previous year
The only thing I learned discussing this is how little people seem to know about this issue.
Yes after Mixon and and his biuddies were cat calling the girls and Mixon was rejected by the girl he hit. Then he start using homophobic slurs at her. There's a lot of he said she said in the report but investigators believe from other witnesses who saw almost the whole thing Mixon and company started the whole thing with cat calls to the women and t escalated.
That's where I'm at. He could have shoved her, pushed her away, grabbed her and held her, slapped her even. Things would not have gotten to where they are now. His first reaction was to haul off and cold-cocked a woman square in the face. 18 or not, this is a guy that's not wired right upstairs. Can't trust that on my team.
It seems to me you only want to hear only part of the story that makes him look better. Multiple reports said Mixon and his crew were cat calling her and using homophobic slurs and her and her friends were trying to get away. Theres a lot of he said she said stuff but from my co workers son who is one of the Eagles coaches he said most people in the NFL based on info they've gotten and info never released publicly Mixon and his friends started it. Both could've handled the situation better but what worries teams about Mixon isn't just that he hit this women but the following incident this past november with a parking cop over a ticket. Theres concerns he has anger issues that could negatively effect a team on the field. I honestly don't care if this girl said she was gonna shoot his mother or whatever. You don't hit her period. The video doesn't show the whole story btw. Basically everyone from police to OU people to anyone else involved agrees a situation occurred before the video. You might not think you are but you actions are showing that you are basically defending Mixon hitting this girl without really saying it with the excuses. This is the exact reason why pro sports teams don't take these things seriously because fans will try to defend it.
Agreed and from what I heard from my co workers son this isn't the big issue as much as this guy can't seem to control himself. Too many people are focussing on the incident his freshman year no one is talking about the incident this past November he blew up. Teams are concerned if this guy can control himself.
The guys defending this Mixon idiot are the same guys that probably felt sweet Lawrence Phillips was also just a poor, misunderstood running back, since surely his 4.5 speed would correct any domestic violence/ self entitled/ lack of respect personality traits he had. Yeah, go throw millions of dollars at him. That will fix it. Please....
Maybe. I don't know and how do any of us know really? As soon as I hear the "I woulda done this or that" I call BS. Everyone reacts different and there's a ton of factors that could go into it. So the answer is maybe. I'd prefer not to hit anyone of that matters
Yeah with hindsight he could have done a bunch of different things and so could she. This logic is no different than "Why would you run the ball in this situation. If that was me I would have blah, blah, blah" When you're in the moment things are a hell of a lot different than when you're on your computer analyzing it weeks/months later. The worst part in all of this discussion is that it's taking some people so long to wrap their heads around this. Almost as if they never made a bad decision they regretted some time later. I've said it numerous times that I don't agree with what he did but I understand. That turned into me being an advocate for women abusers. Unreal
The only thing obvious here is that you're learning this story as you go.
I think that there's a number of situations that every man could be put into where he'd punch a woman. I don't think I'm a guy who'd throw a punch if I were in this Mixon situation, but I'm one who absolutely hates it when a stranger lays a hand on me.JetMaxx said:
Over/under is 73.5 wins. I'm not a betting man but I may put a few hundred on the over. I think the bats will be better than last season but they're going to need health from the rotation.
Trading up for a cb seems like a good move. Not durn for trading up for foster though. Lb is a need, but it's down the list. It's gotta be Cb or De in round one. Trade up for that or trade down and still take a cb or de and get another pick
I knew the story of Mixon from the video tap on. I don't watch ESPN unless I'm watching a game of interest and I don't follow Big12 Football as I find the lack of defense to be boring. I started to know more about it after a friend of mine got into a discussion about Mixon and I did some more research and found out about the parking ticket incident. What I had also known from the initial reports was from the TMZ and Deadspin original articles. Up until the other day I didn't realize this was started well before the video. I thought the incident happened in the food place which it didn't. one of the only reasons I got more involved in the story is I have a buddy who's always into not caring what a guy does off the field yet hates certain players do to how they play. Overall I found his comments on the subject hypocritical numerous times as he's one of those preachy PC people and everyone should be treated fairly yet when it comes to him being entertained that seemed to be completely thrown out the window. So I started learning more about it.Bigboy10182000 said:
Yeah thats my other issue. The hypocrisy. I don't agree with what Kapernick did and from a few people I know more in the known with him it doesn't seem like many people believe he was really serious on what he was doing at least in terms of cause or self gain but that's either here nor there right now. The issue is if Kapernick was Aaron Rodgers doing thiat people would have no problem with it. The typical excuses are for guys is well he's good enough we'll take the distraction as is. He's not good enough he's not worth the distraction. Then you have the people who preach all the PC BS and other things but then when it comes to sports and them being entertained those views completely go out the window for him. A lot of people are just hypocrites. I sometimes wonder if some people know what they are saying or writing or texting to people on these things actually comes off as more of them defending these guys even when some may not have wanted it to come off that way. Like I wrote above I work in an industry where I see a lot of stuff happen and one of the big issues we have is minorites who play the race card even though what's happening is no where close to racist at all. There's a current co worker my boss is a afraid to fire as the co worker brings the race card up constnatly so he's a afraid if he fires him he'd get sued even though he has enough to fire him they go to court the judge will laugh my co workers case out the door and ask him why he's wasting court time on such a weak case when there's more important cases to get too. I treat people equally but I also call it like I see it. If these people really want the NFL and other leagues to take DV and other off the feild/ourt/ice/pitch/etc issues seriously stop enabling the players and doing stuff to show these leagues I don't care what they do off the field because as long as I'm entertained i don't care.G-King said:
It's still a rebuilding year. Crawford I believe is up before the season ends. This year is all about the top guys developing more in the minors. I think we will see a few by the end of the year and then most up by sometime 2018. I think we win more games this year given some guys we signed to help offensively. The problem I had was Amaro didn't play to the team and parks strengths. it's a hitters park. I was 100% against resigning Cliff Lee. I thought Jayson Werth's RH power was way more important. I don't fault them for the howard deal. If Howard doesn't get hurt I don't think he declines as fast as he did and when you compare his deal and production other 1Bs around that time signed for in FA and later he ended up being a steal had he kept up that performance. The team also should've started the rebuilding way sooner. Amaro was trying to catch lightening in a bottle again. This year should be a lot more fun though then last.
I didn't know there was even one here..I forgot there was a baseball forum on here.
At this point it becomes a judgement call then and we don't know what the right answer is now, but it will be shown over the next couple of years. I guess this is why they do the visits/interviews etc. If he's still there in the 2nd I think it becomes a consideration.
Don't know about trading up for a CB, almost seems like this is the year you could even wait a bit. I wouldn't have any issue if they took a pass rusher in the 1st and came back in 2nd and or 3rd for CB. Not sure about the rehab process from achilles injuries but curious at what point Sidney Jones becomes a consideration even if he doesn't play until 2018.need2know said:
Yeah I believe this is the exact reason they do as sometimes these kids get a bit jittery in abig setting like the combine. and you only get so much time to interview them there. Bring them to the facility you have a full day to go through everything depending on other visits and all.
I really don't get the hype with this guy can someone fill me in? Everything I've seen is he's a coverage guy not really a big playmaker and seems afraid of physicality and to tackle people. Just based on Jim Schwartz history and how he's praised Jalen Mills I think they want a CB who has some swag, very physical and can be a playmaker. It's why I think Tez Tabor fits this perfectly as he's all of that. There's other guys who fit that but I got the feeling the Eagles traded Rowe do to the fact he was the complete opposite of Mills. It's pretty telling when your DC likes and plays a rookie 5th/6th rounder (Granted without some red flags he's probably a 2nd/3rd rounder) apparently out plays you in OTAs, mini camps and Training camp as well as pre season to the point the team trades you. I'm not saying Jones isn't good, I just don't know if he fits in what JS wants to do on defense.
