Donny Loved Bowling
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All the talk about McCaffrey's meteoric rise up the draft board has me wondering - if Fournette falls to 14, would they pull the trigger on him? Should they?
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I suppose it all depends on who else is available at the time. Greg Cosell is really big on him, and a few others think he's the real deal. Putting weapons around Wentz has been the strategy, but we all know the defense needs work (secondary) as well. If they think he is the BPA and can still get good defensive contributors after that, I wouldn't be mad about it.
need2know
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Dr. Octopus
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I think it would be appropriate for a cigarette as well. Assuming he's British.
He's getting up there in age, had an off year, and the fear of him becoming Nnamdi/Maxwell 2.0 is enough to make me not want to give much of anything up for him. Also only 2 seasons left on his deal before he's looking for his last huge contract somewhere. Don't want to be paying a 31 year old a huge deal in 2 years right when we'll (hopefully) be in the hunt when he likely won't even be our top CB then (I'm assuming we take one first few rounds that develops into a cheap stud in 2 years)
DJackson10
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I've never been a Frank fan to tell you the truth. He makes his opinions sound like the Gospel truth. Have a friend in the media who says he's kind of condescending to his peers if he doesn't agree with them. I do like his Rueb Facts which are interesting but it's really something about him I just don't like. However I do like him on PFT during football Season on Thursday when he basically calls out Spadaro for his butt kissing of the team. Speaking of Spuds my dad did work in Lower Merion for a customer and this customer's son was best friends in school with Dave's Son. Said Dave is Dbag non the less and has issues with parents who are negative towards the team to the point he makes sure his kids aren't friends and don't hang out with their kids. Kind of petty. I've met him a few times in my area as he frequents the bar with his wife. He was pretty nice and all and even bought me a drink. One night I got free Tickets to an Eagles game against The Cowboys. Said the guy he was gonna give them too friend wasn't gonna be able to go and didn't want the tickets to go to waste. Asked if I wanted them because he didn't want the to go to waste. Ended up getting lower level 50 yard line behind the Eagles bench 10 rows back. I mean the dude is as big of a homer to the Eagles as a buddy of mine to every team he likes. He once tried to argue that the 08 PSU team could beat my UF Nat Champion winning team. Argued how Iguadola was the best dunker in Basketball among a few other arguments just as crazy as Spadaro. However I just think my buddy suffers from Sports Talk Radio syndrome because I have a feeling if he hears enough people on an idea he likes he uses it right or not. Dude could give Spuds a run for his money in homerism.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I also wouldn't be surprised if Mixon wasn't drafted at all. A lot of teams this time a year are pandering saying they aren't interested in this or that guy etc. I'm gonna laugh if no one takes Mixon and he has to go to UDFA route and all this debating by everyone not just Eagles fans but Football and Media fans goes for nothing.
DJackson10
Footballguy
You take Fournette. Dude is a monster. I honestly think at this point he's the most underrated Top back as everyone is talking McCaffery who I see as nothing more then a better in-between the tackles runner then Woodhead type, Mixon and Cook. Fournett has become the forgotten man. I guess it also depends who else is on the board. A dream would be to have him Foster and Barnett available at our pick. I've been watching Fournett for a good while. Dude is legit and a pounder.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I say build through the draft. Too many young good CBs there to waste cap and a pick player on a guy who has two yrs left on his deal.
Thunderlips
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I don't think that'll happen at all.
If it were a situation in which he still had to go to trial for it.....sure, ala the Laleel Collins situation.....but not as it stands. I think he's actually going in the second.
Thunderlips
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My thing about the "Sherman Swap" is that I don't think this team needs to be 2+ years away from competing for a deep playoff run. Getting him could very well make them a legit playoff team this year*
* That's if you believe he's the real deal and not solely a product of the SEA D.
* That's if you believe he's the real deal and not solely a product of the SEA D.
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Insein
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Yea I saw Sherman last year. While he may not be as good as 3 years ago, he's still top 5. That instantly improves our defense. That's a guy who puts fear into OBJ, Dez et al. Then you can still draft another CB with the other pick. A rookie CB would suddenly be able to come along naturally instead of being thrown to the wolves.
Only issue is the money. If Howie can fit it, I'm sure they're thinking about it. I actually think playoffs should be the goal this year. So a move like this makes sense.
Only issue is the money. If Howie can fit it, I'm sure they're thinking about it. I actually think playoffs should be the goal this year. So a move like this makes sense.
Just a couple random thought since I just caught up from a couple days worth of posts.....
I guess it's the result of the Eagles getting burned badly by the last two top cornerback free agents they signed , but I don't want anything to do with Richard Sherman.
Also, whoever said that mix and might not get drafted at all is crazy. A lot of people think he is the best running back in the entire draft. Greg Cosell said he could be a top-10 pick if he didn't hit a girl when he was 18 years old. I wouldn't want to burn the first on him, but I would love to have them take a defensive end or cornerback in the first round and get him in the second.
I guess it's the result of the Eagles getting burned badly by the last two top cornerback free agents they signed , but I don't want anything to do with Richard Sherman.
Also, whoever said that mix and might not get drafted at all is crazy. A lot of people think he is the best running back in the entire draft. Greg Cosell said he could be a top-10 pick if he didn't hit a girl when he was 18 years old. I wouldn't want to burn the first on him, but I would love to have them take a defensive end or cornerback in the first round and get him in the second.
msommer
Footballguy
I'd rather draft a solid player we can groom, rather than bring in Sherman. Not interested in giving Sherman a new contract because I'm not convinced he deserves it.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
FWIW, here are Didinger's 3 top targets in the first 3 rounds:
Round 1
Barnett, DE Tennessee
Conley, CB OSU
Mike Williams
Round 2
Jordan Willis, DE Kansas State
Kamara
Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
Round 3
Kareem Hunt, RB Toledo
Jourdan Lewis, CB Michigan
Chris Wormley, DT Michigan
Round 1
Barnett, DE Tennessee
Conley, CB OSU
Mike Williams
Round 2
Jordan Willis, DE Kansas State
Kamara
Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
Round 3
Kareem Hunt, RB Toledo
Jourdan Lewis, CB Michigan
Chris Wormley, DT Michigan
JetMaxx
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Long Ball Larry
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came off it a week or 2 ago, basically due to further researching the incidents/character issues. He was staunchly against Mixon from the beginning.JetMaxx said:
JetMaxx
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So apparently his staunchly argued and HOF credentialed radio show musings regarding Cook were a waste of time. I put about that much stock on his top 3 target list.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Cook is a great talent and would probably be a great fit in the offense.he adapted his opinion based on additional research and information. which is why i am generally interested in his opinions, as i know they are based on reason. not saying they need to be gospel, but more often than not worth considering.
JetMaxx
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he adapted his opinion once the evaluation was based upon poor test results/character concerns that were easily researched and no longer upon the highlight reel.
he adapted his opinion based on additional research and information. which is why i am generally interested in his opinions, as i know they are based on reason. not saying they need to be gospel, but more often than not worth considering.
DJackson10
Footballguy
That was me on Mixon I'm just not high on him at all. Nothing stands out to me with him. All I saw in video was a guy who took advantage of very bad defenses in one division. Just don't see the hype surrounding him. Fournett and Cook IMHO played against better competition. The Big12 isn't known for defense at all these days.JuniorNB said:
Sludge
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Beau Allen hurt and possibly out until September. A bit of luck that they traded for Jernigan.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/4/8/15232528/beau-allen-injury-eagles-defensive-tackle-tim-jernigan-trade-depth-chart-roster-wisconsin-nfl-draft
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/4/8/15232528/beau-allen-injury-eagles-defensive-tackle-tim-jernigan-trade-depth-chart-roster-wisconsin-nfl-draft
Bigboy10182000
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McGloin signed to a 1-year deal
DJackson10
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Hopefully nothing more then a camp body. The dude is god awful. I heard from a friend a Raiders fan before McGloin got hurt he was so bad they were actually thinking Starting Connor Cook.Bigboy10182000 said:
And now we've already started I see some idiots saying we should trade Foles and keep McGloin because apparently Foles Sucks. Last I checked McGloin never had an historical season and threw 7 TDs in a game. Never came close to it.
DJackson10
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Insein
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Most teams carry a 3rd string QB McGloin seems to fit that bill. Although Sanchez is probably better at this point.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I'd take Mark Sanchez before McGloin. There's teams who don't carry 3 QBs and I was always fine with Two but we had a need with injury prone guys we had in Vick and Bradford here. Hopefully McGloin is cut so we can save his spot for a deserving player who plays his butt off or add depth elsewhere.
Donny Loved Bowling
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Surprised the Texans didn't pursue him. Had his best season at PSU under O'Brien.Bigboy10182000 said:
Tejas
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Eagles seem to be enamored with San Diego State cornerback Damontae Kazee, presently graded as a potential third-rounder, has a dozen workouts on his schedule thus far. Among the dozen are the Philadelphia Eagles, Los Angeles Rams, Dallas Cowboys, Arizona Cardinals and Minnesota Vikings.
DJackson10
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I'm not a huge Godwin fan. It's not that he's bad he needs to work on his route running and he's had issues catching easy passes. He made some amazing catches at PSU but that had to do with more his QB has such a terrible weak arm. My co worker who is a huge fan said their QB use to just throw that ball up there hoping his guy got it a lot of catches were lucky they weren't picked off. Goodwin isn't very fast either which could be a problem separating from players. If I can I'd rather keep J Matt as I think he;'ll thrive with 2 guys in front of him now as Goodwin is nothing more then a good slot guy in the NFL.
Donny Loved Bowling
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Then again, we are in need of a new player whose name the fans can mangle on a regular basis - now that Chase Daniels has left town.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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Skoo
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As much as I would love to have him, there's no way he falls out of the Top 10.
Hoping we go corner in the 1st. Enough already with hoping the 4th-6th rounders end up being studs.
need2know
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Insein
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Insein
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I would still take Williams over Conley and Adored Jackson types. They look like 2nd round CBs being pushed up for need. If Lattimore falls to 14 then ok.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I agree. With where we pick and the needs that we have it will be BPA and as long as it's not a QB I don't care.
I would take all 3 WR's over Conley though. Not that I dislike him but they're just rated higher to me.
that would be awesome.
I've kinda changed my tune on it too and lattimore would be great, but would rather go stud in round 1, then CB CB in next two rounds.
Still have a feeling we trade back though which would be the most ideal.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
It's going to have to be a decent return the more I look at it though. I'm 100% fine with BPA at any position that's not a QB.
I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of going up. Howie is aggressive and there's a few guys we could deal to offset what we give to move up a few places. It won't be bad drastic a jump as last year but I could see us going to say 9-10 if need be.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I could see a move up for Lattimore or Barnett. Maybe even Fournette. I think the top 10 will be VERY unpredictable this year.
I'm not saying I'd agree with it but I'm not writing it off. If you subscribe to the theory that we will deal off some people it would make sense. Give up your 1 and a 4 and deal one of the players I mentioned before for a 4 or 5 etc.
DJackson10
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Foster sure but Williams and Davis? Davis has drops issues in college and some scouts seam to be a little worried he wasn't more productive in a conference with the lack of competitiveness it had. Also it's a bit concerning that Williams played against the toughest CB competition he went up against ever in the National Title game and was basically held without a catch till a 3QTR short yardage and a 4th QTR big play catch do to blown coverage. He played against what many scouts consider in Humphrey the best CB in the draft. There's also questions about his jump ball and 505/50 ball skills considering ACC DBs are smaller then the avg NFL DB. Some scouts have compared him to a pour man Mike Evans. Evans is good but has been terrible inconsistent since he came in the league. The Eagles offense is predicated on the Wideouts getting Separation too. I honestly wouldn't touch any of the top 3 WRs in this draft. I think if the talent was more top heavy non of the 3 players would be mentioned as a top 1st. Maybe late 1st but more of 2nd rounders. I'd also hate to take a WR just to take one in the 1st round. Not really high on the WRs as others are.
DJackson10
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I'd take a few guys over Conley. Not really high on OSU CBs. Sure there's a few guys right now but most of the top OSU guys have failed. The reason Malcom Jenkins is a safety is he was so bad at CB in the NFL and why I hate the Eagles moving him down to cover Slot WRs as I see him get destroyed all the time by them. We saw it last year after Brooks went down.
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