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***OFFICIAL 2018 YANKEE THREAD*** Gleyber Day (1 Viewer)

Limp Ditka said:
There's always next year.
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While the possible suspensions and burnt out bullpen sucks, a conflict like this tends to bring a team closer. They know they have each other's backs, etc. Is it antiquated machismo? Yea. But at the same time, intimidation is part of baseball. Hell, it was 1/3rd of Mariano's game. If you let teams think you can be hit over and over, it will have an effect on the team's moral. 

I had issue with this back in the early 2000s when the Sox kept beaning our batters over and over and Torre refused to let our pitchers retaliate. It kind of deflated the team a bit, but moreso, it made the Sox cocky and assured. They had won a battle, a small battle, but nevertheless a battle and it hurt the Yanks. 

 
Does anyone else have a slightly terrified voice in the back of their mind telling them that Judge's first half was an aberration and this is really who he is? A slightly better version of the .179 hitter we saw in 2016?

 
Dan Lambskin said:
This Judge cat gonna slap any more dongs this year?
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Even when he gets a piece of one, his contact is always slighty off, a little under the ball, a little over the ball, and it just isn't flying out like it did in the first half. The power is still there; his flyballs touch the clouds, but the angle of trajectory is all out of whack so the ball hangs high and drops ten feet before the wall. It's like he lost just a bit of his vision and can't square up the bat anymore.

 
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flysack said:
Does anyone else have a slightly terrified voice in the back of their mind telling them that Judge's first half was an aberration and this is really who he is? A slightly better version of the .179 hitter we saw in 2016?
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 sucks right? Thought we had a star on our hands and fans loved him

 
shadyridr said:
 sucks right? Thought we had a star on our hands and fans loved him
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I don't totally believe it, though I'm 99% sure he'll be this way for the rest of the season. 

Can you imagine if he was hitting like he did in June? We'd be a force in the playoffs. Instead we'll likely squeak our way in and get booted just as quick. 

 
With the Tampa series moving to Citi Field this week, the Yankees essentially have 17 home games left out of 20 total. Lets see if they can make that final run at division.

 
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What are you guys thinking of the playoffs?

With Judge back to being Judge, I'm confident they'll win the wildcard game, but will likely fall to the Indians in the ALDS. Mostly because the Indians are the hottest team in baseball and they destroyed the Yanks in the regular season. 

If it were anyone else, I'd believe this team could make the ALCS. If it were the Red Sox, yes. If it were the Astros, perhaps. But Cleveland? Eh...

 
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flysack said:
What are you guys thinking of the playoffs?

With Judge back to being Judge, I'm confident they'll win the wildcard game, but will likely fall to the Indians in the ALDS. Mostly because the Indians are the hottest team in baseball and they destroyed the Yanks in the regular season. 

If it were anyone else, I'd believe this team could make the ALCS. If it were the Red Sox, yes. If it were the Astros, perhaps. But Cleveland? Eh...
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Yankees can beat anyone in a 7 game series. They have great lineup depth, a dominant bullpen, and a certified ace. But I dont see how they can beat the Indians in a 5 game series with Kluber pitching two of those games and Severino only available for one.

 
shadyridr said:
Yankees can beat anyone in a 7 game series. They have great lineup depth, a dominant bullpen, and a certified ace. But I dont see how they can beat the Indians in a 5 game series with Kluber pitching two of those games and Severino only available for one.
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You're right. The only way is if Tanaka turns back into the guy in April who outdueled Sale for a 1-0 win. 

Which, let's be honest, isn't going to happen. 

 
Boston lost, Yankees won. 

Boston has to deal with a strong Houston team fighting for home field advantage. Yankees are dealing with a Jays team fighting for pride and nothing else.

They're very much still in the division race.

So why are earth are they trotting out Jaime Garcia today, who's been BY FAR their worst pitcher? Even when he's "good" he barely makes it out of the 5th inning. And that's only been once.

I can only understand it as Girardi playing it somewhat safe by using this to set up Severino for the wild card game. It's a conservative call, but I get it. 

 
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Not to get ahead of ourselves, but does this mean they could use Severino in Game 2 of the Cleveland series?

He only threw 27 pitches. 

 
Ironically severino getting knocked out early can actually help the yankees in the next round. Now he can pitch games 2 & 5 against Kluber and he got his playoff jitters out of the way. I hope that's their plan. I have full confidence in the kid. 

 
shadyridr said:
Ironically severino getting knocked out early can actually help the yankees in the next round. Now he can pitch games 2 & 5 against Kluber and he got his playoff jitters out of the way. I hope that's their plan. I have full confidence in the kid. 
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I do too, but I wonder if a resurgent a focused Tanaka would be the better choice against Kluber. Tanaka did outduel Sale early in the year for a 1-0 win. And he did just get a career high 15 strikeouts his last start.

 
LOOK OUT INDIANS! WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, SWOLLEN BALLS AND ALL!

(How many of you cringed like David Robinson when saw that ball Sanchez' family jewels?)

 
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Yeah, very surprising, especially since both of them were on the the roster last night. I took that to mean that Tanaka was a lock to start game 1. (if it happened)

I do like putting CC out there against Kluber though. With his experience, he has the best chance of not folding under the pressure.

 
I figured Gray would start game 1. Real surprised that CC gets the nod over Tanaka though. Say what you will about his horrendous first half, he's been good after the All-Star break and tossed a career high 15 strikeouts last start. He should be matched against Kluber. 

Maybe Joe isn't conceding but also thinking the long game here and wants Tanaka, Severino, and Gray for the back 3 games?

 
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flysack said:
I figured Gray would start game 1. Real surprised that CC gets the nod over Tanaka though. Say what you will about his horrendous first half, he's been good after the All-Star break and tossed a career high 15 strikeouts last start. He should be matched against Kluber. 

Maybe Joe isn't conceding but also thinking the long game here and wants Tanaka, Severino, and Gray for the back 3 games?
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Tanaka has poor road splits. Still not pitching severino until game 4 is a mistake. He should be pitching game 2.

 
Yanks lose in 5. They lost yesterday, they'll lose to Kluber today. Back home they find their bats again and win behind Tanaka and Severino. Then they lose Game 5 in Cleveland to Kluber again.

Say what you will about the lack offense Game 1, it's their starting pitching that's killing them in the playoffs. Both Severino and Gray lost their command; Gray just had enough to make it through four innings. 

Win or lose, they need seven strong from CC tonight or things will get real ugly.

 
flysack said:
Yanks lose in 5. They lost yesterday, they'll lose to Kluber today. Back home they find their bats again and win behind Tanaka and Severino. Then they lose Game 5 in Cleveland to Kluber again.

Say what you will about the lack offense Game 1, it's their starting pitching that's killing them in the playoffs. Both Severino and Gray lost their command; Gray just had enough to make it through four innings. 

Win or lose, they need seven strong from CC tonight or things will get real ugly.
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They only need 5 strong from CC with their bullpen

 
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Yea, I guess three days is enough rest for the guys Joe burned in the WC game.
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I'll make this my annual rant about the two team wild card format...

Other than a tie breaker, the baseball season shouldn't come down to one game.  

This season, NY and Arizona were 6 games better than the next team.  That's the difference between 24 games and 12 games over .500.

Either team loses the wild card and a lesser team advances.   Takes some luster off the next series.   Whoever wins goes into the next series with a disadvantage of travel and a taxed pitching staff.

 
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DropKick said:
I'll make this my annual rant about the two team wild card format...

Other than a tie breaker, the baseball season shouldn't come down to one game.  

This season, NY and Arizona were 6 games better than the next team.  That's the difference between 24 games and 12 games over .500.

Either team loses the wild card and a lesser team advances.   Takes some luster off the next series.   Whoever wins goes into the next series with a disadvantage of travel and a taxed pitching staff.
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The manager blew this game not the pitching staff. 

 
DropKick said:
I'll make this my annual rant about the two team wild card format...

Other than a tie breaker, the baseball season shouldn't come down to one game.  

This season, NY and Arizona were 6 games better than the next team.  That's the difference between 24 games and 12 games over .500.

Either team loses the wild card and a lesser team advances.   Takes some luster off the next series.   Whoever wins goes into the next series with a disadvantage of travel and a taxed pitching staff.
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I don't have a problem with it. There wasn't enough of an advantage to winning the division vs winning the wild card. Don't want it to come down to game (or go into the DS with a taxed pitching staff)? Don't #### the bed for a month following a west coast trip.

 
Even if he lost the challenge he had another one and starting in the seventh inning the umpires can look at anything in their discretion.  The explanation of why he didn't challenge made it 100x worse.  

"Being a catcher my thought is I never want to break a pitcher's rhythm."

The batter before doubled and he just "hit" a batter.  Yeah he was in a great rhythm.  If anything I'd want to give him a breather after that.

"We didn't have any indication that the pitch didn't hit him."

Well except your catcher immediately telling you the ball hit his bat not his hand.

 
Girardi is good at developing young players. That was his MO in Miami, and you have to give him some credit for the rapid development of the young guys this year.

But man is he a terrible game-time manager. This isn't the first time he's done something boneheaded in a game. It's just, by far, the worst. His management probably cost them the series. We had to have that game. We knocked Kluber out with 6 runs early on. Kluber! The probably Cy Young winner. 

What a fiasco. 

 
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TLEF316 said:
I don't have a problem with it. There wasn't enough of an advantage to winning the division vs winning the wild card. Don't want it to come down to game (or go into the DS with a taxed pitching staff)? Don't #### the bed for a month following a west coast trip.
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Don't throw the baby out with the bath water...  The single wild card was the best of 12 teams in the league (more of a challenge than the NFL)  and usually a deserving participant.  The flip side is you're giving two teams ~12 games over .500 a chance to bounce a team that performed significantly better over the course of 162 games.  Neither team got upset this year but a lesser team advancing diminishes the competition level of the post season.

 
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