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Interesting tweet from David Lombardi:

Shanahan was coaching for next Sunday for most of the game. He knew the 49er defense was untouchable and put next to nothing on film.

I can get down with that. I doubt he lets up against Rodgers or Wilson next week, knowing they can put their teams on their back and find a way to come back.
Yep - there’s a difference between “scared” and “strategic”.

why open the offensive playbook when you’re winning with defense? 

smart. 

 
Because you’re a hater and can’t admit that going to Seattle and putting up a W in the most important game of the decade for them wasn’t enough? 

yep - seeing it crystal clear. 👍🏼
First off, hyperbole much? The most important game of the decade was the superbowl in 2012. And no, relying on the seahawks to take a boneheaded delay of game penalty at the 1 isn't enough... that's not exactly winning in convincing fashion. Wilson should've never even got the ball back for that possession.

 
First off, hyperbole much? The most important game of the decade was the superbowl in 2012. And no, relying on the seahawks to take a boneheaded delay of game penalty at the 1 isn't enough... that's not exactly winning in convincing fashion. Wilson should've never even got the ball back for that possession.
I see. So we learned nothing about the 49ers for keeping their poise & winning that game (including the stop at the 1 to end it) but we learned everything about how bad the 49ers were because they gave the ball back to Seattle? 

Got it. 

cmon. 

 
I see. So we learned nothing about the 49ers for keeping their poise & winning that game (including the stop at the 1 to end it) but we learned everything about how bad the 49ers were because they gave the ball back to Seattle? 

Got it. 

cmon. 
I learned in the final few wks of the season that this team is clutch when it matters. I also learned that many of these clutch moments could've been avoided w/ more sustained drives down the stretch. They were up 2 scores late against the seahawks and made it close. They were up 2 scores in the 4th against the saints and had to come from behind to win... They were up 2 scores against the falcons in the 4th and lost.

Yea it's great that they got the job done when it mattered, but why even put yourself in that situation? I don't see how squandering 4th quarter multiple score leads can be seen as a positive trend...

 
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Seems hard to believe, especially the way some in the organization have appeared to lobby for him. 
I think they’d be happy if he stays, too. And the Browns are the Browns. i wouldn’t blame him for not wanting that job. 

I’m sure it would be a difficult choice. I’m hoping he stays a Niner. He’s got this defense playing hard. 

 
There’s no guarantee Saleh would even have taken the job if offered. Reporting locally suggests he would not have. 


Saw this a few days ago:

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/133095-robert-saleh-reportedly-remaining-browns-narrow-coaching-candidates/

Robert Saleh reportedly remaining with 49ers after Browns narrow down coaching candidates

By David Bonilla, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:48 AM •

It would seem that San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh isn't going anywhere — for now, at least. That's what Ben Volin of the Boston Globe is reporting.

The Cleveland Browns have reportedly narrowed down their list of head-coaching candidates to three. They are Josh McDaniels, Kevin Stefanski, and Brian Daboll, says Volin. The Browns will reportedly wrap up the hiring process by tonight or tomorrow.

That, of course, means Cleveland is passing on Saleh and the other candidates for the job. It also means 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan retains his defensive coordinator for at least another year.

Saleh, 40, interviewed with the Browns in the Santa Clara area on Saturday, January 4.

And via twitter:

Ben Volin @BenVolin

Two sources say the Browns plan to wrap up their process today and hope to have a hire by tonight or tomorrow. It appears to be down to McDaniels, Kevin Stefanski and Brian Daboll, three great offensive coordinators

11:42 AM · Jan 10, 2020

 
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Wingnut said:
Saw this a few days ago:

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/133095-robert-saleh-reportedly-remaining-browns-narrow-coaching-candidates/

Robert Saleh reportedly remaining with 49ers after Browns narrow down coaching candidates

By David Bonilla, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:48 AM •

It would seem that San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh isn't going anywhere — for now, at least. That's what Ben Volin of the Boston Globe is reporting.

The Cleveland Browns have reportedly narrowed down their list of head-coaching candidates to three. They are Josh McDaniels, Kevin Stefanski, and Brian Daboll, says Volin. The Browns will reportedly wrap up the hiring process by tonight or tomorrow.

That, of course, means Cleveland is passing on Saleh and the other candidates for the job. It also means 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan retains his defensive coordinator for at least another year.

Saleh, 40, interviewed with the Browns in the Santa Clara area on Saturday, January 4.

And via twitter:

Ben Volin @BenVolin

Two sources say the Browns plan to wrap up their process today and hope to have a hire by tonight or tomorrow. It appears to be down to McDaniels, Kevin Stefanski and Brian Daboll, three great offensive coordinators

11:42 AM · Jan 10, 2020
That doesn’t say he would have turned it down if offered, though. 

 
I love seeing Seattle's season end.
Always enjoyable to see the Seahawk fans melt down and blame officiating and injuries.  
 

Green Bay round 2.  I like the 49ers chances but Aaron Rodgers can light any team up.  Should be a good one. 
 

 
You seem like a good guy but I hope you get another dose of the same lol
No reason you shouldn't.  I hope you are shocked and disappointed after the game but I don't see that happening though who knows, maybe the moment is too big for Garoppolo, though I don't think so.  Samuels and Kittle both scare the hell out of me, as does your defensive front.

 
I can't see any way that the Packers go to San Francisco and come away with a win. The 49ers have the clearest path to a Super Bowl that I can ever remember going into a conference title game. So, will we have a 49ers vs Chiefs Super Bowl or a 49ers vs Titans Super Bowl?

 
So, reading this I come to the conclusion that 49er fans believe coronation is a foregone conclusion.  they will beat the Vikings and move on through whoever is next, Packers or Seahawks though they would prefer the style points of whooping the Seahawks.  The biggest concern is style points and gustatory opportunities, not winning.  Awfully confident for a team who has yet to prove anything.  I'm not saying you shouldn't be after the butt-whooping you guys gave my Packers, but sometimes life affords us lessons in humility. 

Anyhow, don't listen to me.  Ride the wave of euphoria, surf right around the outcroppings of harsh disappointment and land on the beach of Victory where the girls are beautiful, imaginative, and uninhibited. 
The 49ers are within a grasp of a Superbowl appearance.  Their fans do seem to think it's nearly automatic.  After you posted this, they of course, dominated Minnesota.  

Green Bay or Seattle was next.  Now it's Green Bay.

The talk on this thread, was not necessarily who they'd  rather face from an Xs and Os standpoint.  But who they'd rather be more entertained by beating on their way to the Superbowl.

I would love to see some comeuppance next week.

 
The 49ers are within a grasp of a Superbowl appearance.  Their fans do seem to think it's nearly automatic.  After you posted this, they of course, dominated Minnesota.  

Green Bay or Seattle was next.  Now it's Green Bay.

The talk on this thread, was not necessarily who they'd  rather face from an Xs and Os standpoint.  But who they'd rather be more entertained by beating on their way to the Superbowl.

I would love to see some comeuppance next week.
As a Packer fan I obviously would as well but I don't think we have an answer to their pass rush nor for Kittle.  Still, a girl can dream.

 
The 49ers are within a grasp of a Superbowl appearance.  Their fans do seem to think it's nearly automatic.  After you posted this, they of course, dominated Minnesota.  

Green Bay or Seattle was next.  Now it's Green Bay.

The talk on this thread, was not necessarily who they'd  rather face from an Xs and Os standpoint.  But who they'd rather be more entertained by beating on their way to the Superbowl.

I would love to see some comeuppance next week.
Am I missing something? The only posts here about how it's automatic are from packers fans...

I wanted the niners to play the packers not because I think it'll be a cakewalk, but because the possibility of their season ending at the hands of Wilson and Carroll is for me is the worst outcome imaginable.

 
The 49ers are within a grasp of a Superbowl appearance.  Their fans do seem to think it's nearly automatic.  After you posted this, they of course, dominated Minnesota.  

Green Bay or Seattle was next.  Now it's Green Bay.

The talk on this thread, was not necessarily who they'd  rather face from an Xs and Os standpoint.  But who they'd rather be more entertained by beating on their way to the Superbowl.

I would love to see some comeuppance next week.
Give us your tears Dinkle  Heimer. Salty as they are, Seahawk tears are always welcome here.  
 

Take some time to reflect on a solid Seahawk season. Pay homage to Russell and Pete daily.  Buy a 12 jersey for someone less fortunate.  Write to the NFL demanding the unfair officiating practices against the greatest franchise and greatest QB in NFL history stop immediately. Spend your offseason productively my friend. 
 

 
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The “ignore user” feature can be glorious at times. :wub:  
And miss out on the non biased views from the most awesome fan base in the NFL?  No friggin way!
 

Plus, I am too much of a humanitarian to ignore the cry for help from old Dingle Heimer. The 49er fan base needs to reach out in times like these and accept Seahawk fan tears. It’s the least we can do in their time of such extreme pain and genuine sorrow. Join me in my quest to ease their pain.  

 
Putting a plan in place right now. IDK how it happened, but apparently I told my older son and father in law that I was taking them to SF for the game (I was pretty hammered on Saturday). FIL has 3 daughters (never got the boy), never did anything like this, but a big sports fan. Guy is a retired FDNY Captain, he's a hero, think it's worth creating the memory for all 3 of us, I named my oldest son after him... Cost is prob the same as me going to the SB by myself, so I think a family memory is more worthy. Never been to Levi Stadium, last trip was to the stick for NFCC in 2012 against the NYG. Any homers that can answer some questions for me?

- Red Zone Rally, anyone ever been? Prob getting to the stadium around 11 or 12, think this would be better than randomly trying to hop into some random tailgates.

- Things to do around Levi Stadium? Prob getting an AIrBNB Saturday around Palo Alto/Mountain View/San Jose... We'll have Saturday night to hang out as we'll prob land around 1-2pm Saturday. We'll prob drink, hang out, wander around, but any recommendations in the area are appreciated. Keep in mind we'll have a 7 year old with us. 

Kinda feel like a jerk for not bringing my younger son (4 next month), but he can't handle this and will be hindrance. When he is a little older, I'll plan something like this again, just he'll be in too. Should I feel bad about this? I know the 7 year old loves football, fully understands the game, loves the Niners, and can handle long days/walking/whatever I throw at him. 

 
Lol, I understand all teams have homers who lack humbleness with their team's success.   A couple 49er fans on this board are no different and are clearly extra salty and boisterous.  The phrase act like you've been there before comes to mind.   DW initially initially observed the air of over-confidence.  

The 49ers are clearly the best team in the NFC and the Hawks division rivals; so of course I'll be pulling for the Packers on Sunday.  Regardless of what I post, the niners are having a great year and have a legit shot at a championship.  Some of y'all are clearly thin-skinned and reactionary. 

 
How its automatic the Packers will win? 

I dont think any logical Packer fan, or any fan at that, can say this. 

The 49ers are the best team in the NFC. It's been obvious all season. They absolutely embarrassed the Packers week 12. 

As a Packer fan, I'm rooting for my team and hopeful. It is very difficult to beat the same team 2x in a season. SF has GB at home 2x so that helps. Bosa gave us fits last time and it's the best front 4 in the NFL. 

SF isn't without their own warts, and it's up to GB to exploit them. 

Of course, keep the game close at the end and I bet on Rodgers every time.

The nay sayers come out when your team does well. Take it as a compliment. 
Niners fans are cautiously optimistic. None of the ones I’ve heard think this will be anything but a challenge. Aaron Rodgers is the real deal & a Packers team with a healthy Davonte Adams & Aaron Jones always has a shot to win.

that said, I think the Niners have a better defense than the packers, and as i said in the game-topic, if Seattle’s decimated defense could get to A-A-Ron, the Pack is gonna have their hands full with out front 4. 

seattle’s run game is a shambles, so GB didn’t really get tested. GB’s secondary gave up more than a few big plays to Lockett, and even behind that rag tag SEA OL Wilson had a lot of time to throw. 

so if GB is gonna have a chance, they’d best run the ball better than the Vikings did with Cook & they’d best protect ARod a LOT better than they did against Seattle. 

So I definitely give the edge to the Niners. They’re a TD favorite, and I believe that’s a fair line. It’s just not one I’m likely to bet. My gut check tells me this feels like a “whoever has the ball last” kind of game.

but on paper it should be more like Niners 31, Packers 20.  I just can’t see GB OL keeping Rodgers vertical enough to keep it that close. 

 
The nay sayers come out when your team does well. Take it as a compliment. 
Yeah.  I really don't care what is posted in the team thread, but Seahawk fans have a special place in my heart, so I have to support them in their time of need.

Should be a good match up.  Always fun to play against Rodgers.  He's my favorite non-49er player.  Love the smugness.
 

 
Agree with the above. The Niners *should* win, but we just saw the best team in the league get punched in the mouth at home by a team that’s worse than the Packers on paper. Rodgers isn’t as scary as he was a few years ago but he will still clearly be the best QB on the field. 

 
Packers defense is underrated, and Rodgers will break your heart.  I know first hand......but yea, niners defense is pretty dang filthy, and as good as Rodgers is, he doesn't seem like the super man he's been in the past.

Should be good one, although the Titans/Chiefs game looks like a lot of fun!

 
Should be good one, although the Titans/Chiefs game looks like a lot of fun!
Yeah, I think the Chiefs/Titans will be fun to watch.  Old school offense vs New age offense.  Titans have a better D but when Mahomes gets in a zone, they can put up points quickly.

Just fun to have my team playing again this far into the season.  Been a while.

 
These ####### seating charts are so difficult to decipher and nobody (I mean absolutely nobody, not at the stadium, Stubhub, etc.) can tell me what is what. I'm trying to find 3 tickets in the front row of either end zone. They're listed out as AA (which in some sections is the first row), some without letters (some sections don't have them, making it even more confusing), and then they have this north and south field, not even sure what that is, if it is a row, or actually on the field. 

If any of you jabronis are currently engineers taking part in a stadium build, let me help you out; Row 1 is the first row :shrug:

 
I wonder how often the team that won the first game wins the second game.  My guess is that they win more than 50% of the time.
I havent seen anything about ALL such matchups, but this was mentioned in an article i just read:

Sunday's meeting between the Packers and 49ers will be the 37th time in the Super Bowl era that teams will meet in the playoffs after one team beat the other by at least 25 points during the regular season. The team that won the first meeting is 22-14 in the ensuing matchup, including 7-2 in conference title games, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28477123/kyle-shanahan-tells-49ers-their-regular-season-win-packers-holds-zero-relevance-week

 
49ers' Nick Bosa named NFL Rookie of the Year by writers association

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-nick-bosa-named-nfl-rookie-year-writers-association

San Francisco 49ers defensive end Nick Bosa was recognized as the NFL Rookie of the Year, the Pro Football Writers of America announced on Tuesday morning.

Bosa was not just NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. He won that, too. But the writers selected him as the best rookie in the league, period.

Raiders running back Josh Jacobs was named as the PFWA's NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year.

Linebacker Dre Greenlaw, who moved into the starting lineup after Kwon Alexander's injury, was named to the first-team all-rookie defense. He joined Devin Bush (Pittsburgh) and Devin White (Tampa Bay) as the linebackers.

Bosa won the award based on his regular-season production, and he carried it over into the playoffs with two sacks against the Minnesota Vikings in a 27-10 victory on Saturday in the divisional round of the playoffs.

“It’s kind of expected now,” 49ers left tackle Joe Staley said of Bosa. “At first, it was kind of shocking about how quickly he adapted to the NFL and was able to make a lot of talented tackles look silly, myself included.

“But, now, it’s just what he is, and it’s expected. It’s who he’s been his whole life. I don’t think it’s turned up for a playoff game, it’s just what he does. He goes out there and dominates, so I expect him to do the same next week.”

Bosa is the first defensive player to win the PFWA award since an overall rookie of the year was re-implemented in 2013. He is the fifth 49ers player to win NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, joining cornerback Bruce Taylor (1970), defensive tackle Dana Stubblefield (1993), linebacker Patrick Willis (2007) and edge rusher Aldon Smith (2011).

Bosa’s brother, Joey Bosa of the Los Angeles Chargers, won the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2016.

Nick Bosa, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, started 14 of the 16 games in which he appeared this season. He registered 47 tackles and nine sacks with an interception, a forced fumble and two fumble recoveries.

He left an imprint on games even when he was not compiling statistics. Bosa ranked sixth in the NFL among edge defenders with a 49ers-best 80 quarterback pressures, according to Pro Football Focus.

 
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Nick Bosa's ridiculous playoff debut vs Monnesota, per @PFF

-7 pressures (led defense)
-2 sacks (led defense)
-4 QB hurries (led def w/ Buckner)
-1 QB hit (led def w/ Ford, Armstead)
-4 tackles
-5 stops (led def w/ Warner)
-1 pass breakup (led defense)
-91.6 elite grade (led defense)

 
Well deserved.  Bosa was a dominant player this year and will only get better.  He was overly aggressive at times and got beat on some bootlegs, but he will improve there with experience.  Seems like a great teammate too.

Good to see Greenlaw make it as well.  Pretty nice 5th rounder.

 
I’ve previously been critical of Lynch’s (Shanahan’s?) drafting, but there’s no doubt he had an excellent 2019 draft. 

 
I’ve previously been critical of Lynch’s (Shanahan’s?) drafting, but there’s no doubt he had an excellent 2019 draft. 
Bosa:  Excellent, but a no brainer so can't give them too much credit for that

Samuel:  Excellent fit for system.  

Hurd: I'll consider him part of the 2020 class.  Hope he comes back healthy in 2020.  Can't wait to see another, bigger Deebo on the field

Punter Dude:  Still wish they had stayed put in round 4 and taken Gardner/Johnson, but he locks up the position for 10 years.  Worst selection in the 2019 draft IMO

Greenlaw:  Excellent pick

Kaden Smith:  Played well with the Giants.  49ers tried to stash him on the practice squad.  Wish they had been able to keep him.  Going to regret keeping Toilolo over him long term I think

Schule:  Ended up playing solid while Staley was out.  Held down the fort anyway.  Not bad for a 6th rounder

Harris:  Has some skills.  Another who will essentially be part of the 2020 class

Nicely done.

 
Bosa:  Excellent, but a no brainer so can't give them too much credit for that

Samuel:  Excellent fit for system.  

Hurd: I'll consider him part of the 2020 class.  Hope he comes back healthy in 2020.  Can't wait to see another, bigger Deebo on the field

Punter Dude:  Still wish they had stayed put in round 4 and taken Gardner/Johnson, but he locks up the position for 10 years.  Worst selection in the 2019 draft IMO

Greenlaw:  Excellent pick

Kaden Smith:  Played well with the Giants.  49ers tried to stash him on the practice squad.  Wish they had been able to keep him.  Going to regret keeping Toilolo over him long term I think

Schule:  Ended up playing solid while Staley was out.  Held down the fort anyway.  Not bad for a 6th rounder

Harris:  Has some skills.  Another who will essentially be part of the 2020 class

Nicely done.
I mean, they previously badly screwed up the #2 pick, so I’m giving them full credit for making the right selection this year even if it was a consensus pick. Samuel could be a pro bowler, I think. Between those two and Greenlaw alone, that’s a A draft. I’m skeptical Skule is anything but a long term backup but like you said, he was key to them surviving this season. 

 
I mean, they previously badly screwed up the #2 pick, so I’m giving them full credit for making the right selection this year even if it was a consensus pick. Samuel could be a pro bowler, I think. Between those two and Greenlaw alone, that’s a A draft. I’m skeptical Skule is anything but a long term backup but like you said, he was key to them surviving this season. 
Well, technically, it was the 3rd pick.  The only saving grace of drafting Thomas was they got 2 3rds and a 4th from the Bears for moving down a spot instead of taking Thomas #2 overall.  Still a disaster and hard to digest because of the options available to them there (Watson, Mahomes, Lattimore, Adams) but the extra picks took some of the sting out. Lattimore was my pick there, but he fell all the way to 11, so guess he wasn't the slam dunk pick I thought he was.

 

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