Down Under
Footballguy
Sorry to rain on your parade (well deserved), but Baltimore is destroying this league right now. Be interesting if they can make it even competitive.
The 49ers defense consistently came forward to attack the ball carrier or receiver while the Packers consistently waited for the ball carrier or receiver to come forward towards them as they gave ground. One team believes in itself, the other is plagued by doubt and lack of backend communication and clarity. It will be interesting to see how the 49ers look against the Ravens who certainly seemed formidable last night.efactor said:Having watched multiple GB games this year, I expected the Niners to win this week having Kittle back. Didn’t expect a blow out but the GB matchup didn’t scare me.
Defense just overwhelmed GB with their speed. They also tackled really well tonight. Nothing after the catch
Baltimore's defense has been completely revamped since those early season games. They changed the rotation at ILB, got Jimmy Smith back, and traded for Marcus Peters. Also, the two recent rushing games you mention - go look at the scores. Both games were in garbage time at the half.Wingnut said:Everyones talking about how good the Ravens are. Yeah, theyre on a 6 game win streak and theyve scored 40+ in the last 3...but remember, Cleveland beat them in Baltimore back in week 4 (KC also beat them in week 3 in KC)
KC and CLE both threw for 300 yards and ran the ball really well (KC had 140 rush yards, CLE had 193) . The only other team to throw for 300 yds against them was Arizona in week 2, but Arizona only had 20 (yes, 20!!!) rush yards that game. The next highest passing yards total against the Ravens this season was 268 yards by New England, but they only had 74 rushing yards that week. Russel Wilson threw for the next highest yardage (241 yards), but Seattle only ran for 106 yards that game (27 of those yards were WIlsons, only 82 yards came from the RBs).
In the rest of their games, other than Andy Dalton throwing for 214 yards against them in week 6, no other QB has thrown for 200 or more yards against them. They have given up some rush yards the past few weeks (157 by the Bengals, and 122 by the Texans), but neither could get the passing game in gear (150yds and 110yds, respectively)
So if SF can get the running game going, and play action works like it has been, we can definitely beat them in their house, its just gonna take a good game both through the air and on the ground. Hopefully Breida plays, Coleman hasnt ran for squat the past few weeks. We also need to hit Jackson every chance we get, like Baltimore did to Kaep in the Super Bowl. Make him think about it every play. I wonder if anyone has done that yet...interesting stat: Both Jimmy and Lamar have both been sacked 22 times this year.
This wont only be SF's toughest test of the season, its also Baltimores toughest test.
Unfortunately Ill be driving to Alabama during the game and wont get to watch it live. Ill hopefully be able to hear most of it with Game Pass audio, and Ill watch the replay when I get back home Monday.
I was gonna mention their defense and how they've been playing, especially since the Peters trade. That defense is no joke. I'm hoping the short week has an effect, but it's not like the Rams gave them a physical fight, so I'm sure they're feeling ok today.Baltimore's defense has been completely revamped since those early season games. They changed the rotation at ILB, got Jimmy Smith back, and traded for Marcus Peters. Also, the two recent rushing games you mention - go look at the scores. Both games were in garbage time at the half.
In any case, this week's game should be fun. I think you're right that teams need to hit Jackson and shake him up to get him making mistakes. The problem is - as Seattle, NE, Hou, and LA learned - that he's often hard to catch.
I think it's a FG margin of victory for the winner.
The Ravens Center got hurt last night, which will be a monster problem for them against that SF War Wagon up front if he doesn't play.I was gonna mention their defense and how they've really been playing since the Peters trade. That defense is no joke. I'm hoping the short week has an effect, but it's not like the Rams gave them a physical fight, so I'm sure they're feeling ok today.
Yeah, I know. We haven't played anyone yet*... but come on. Even competitive?Down Under said:Sorry to rain on your parade (well deserved), but Baltimore is destroying this league right now. Be interesting if they can make it even competitive.
Pretty much the same weather as the Redskins game.Baltimore Sunday weather forecast calls for 90% chance of rain, with a high of 50 degrees and low of 37.
This game could be a defensive battle.
Baltimore's field is in much better shape than DC's (so is any random hog pen in a monsoon).Pretty much the same weather as the Redskins game.
If it is in fact sloppy and wet, I think that would benefit us because it would slow down their offense.
Just confirmed, hes out for the year. Will be interesting to see how this affects their offense.The Ravens Center got hurt last night, which will be a monster problem for them against that SF War Wagon up front if he doesn't play.
Seems to me (and I surely don't know what I'm talking about) that Lamar's status as a quasi running back means they'd be more versatile in bad conditions than the Niners, who still need Jimmy to step back and throw the ball regularly.Pretty much the same weather as the Redskins game.
If it is in fact sloppy and wet, I think that would benefit us because it would slow down their offense.
If we can get the run game going, we should be able to pick spots for big plays using play action. This team is built for football in bad weather, we just need to get back on track running the ball, which will eat clock, keep Lamar off the field, and keep our defense fresh. Long sustained drives are key. Fingers crossed.Seems to me (and I surely don't know what I'm talking about) that Lamar's status as a quasi running back means they'd be more versatile in bad conditions than the Niners, who still need Jimmy to step back and throw the ball regularly.
Having lived through the Greg Roman experience, I'm more bearish on the Ravens' long term prospects than most, but I certainly would take Baltimore versus the spread this week and wouldn't be at all surprised if the Ravens won big. I'm circling next week's Saints game as a key winnable game if the Niners want to make sure they stay on top in the NFC West and in the driver's seat for a bye. My personal hope this week is that they avoid any more crippling injuries. If Kittle is still struggling, for example, I hope the team plays it safe with his availability.
Lol.Man, I hate to have to go to Webzone, but the discussion here really sucks. There's like 5 Niner fans here. Lame.
Man, I hate to have to go to Webzone, but the discussion here really sucks. There's like 5 Niner fans here. Lame.
I need to not post when Im drunkYeah, I guess the good thing bout this place is there really arent a lot of trolls compared to 49er forums.Lol.
I find the less time I spend talking on fan sites, the more I enjoy watching the games. A lot of 49er fans who post constantly are “Eyore” Types who expect the worst. Then you have the trolls who claim every week is the week they will get exposed.
Looking forward to the rest of season schedule. Ravens, Saints, Rams and Seattle.
Go Niners!
Back at ya. Games are kind of “meh” today but it’s football and a lot of good food and family.Happy turkey day, fellas!
Glad you found a place to belly up for the game.Ill be watching somewhere between Tallahassee and Pensacola at a sports bar...not sure they even watch pro football up there. Lol.
Can't wait for kickoff!!!!
As a Ravens fan this is what I just posted in the Lamar thread about how I’d defend him. Ravens LBs don’t do much pass coverage- Ravens play nickel ad their base package and more dime than 3-4. Someone is going to have to beat them enough on the ground to force them out of that.I know the same regime wasn't around when Roman was here, but I'd play Lamar Jackson exactly how teams played Kaepernick... take away the throws to the middle of the field and make him throw to the sidelines, and play contain with the ends. Occasionally mix in some robber coverages and blitz a DB from the blindside.
On offense I"m looking to them to throw more to the RBs and Juice and try to expose the ravens LBs in coverage. Shanny's been doing a bunch of Garp throwing from empty sets which I haven't been a fan of.
Great game and good call.Uruk-Hai said:Glad you found a place to belly up for the game.
Hope it's a fun one with no big injuries on either side.
I'm going Ravens 20, 49ers 17
We will run the table the rest of the way.In Baltimore with that weather, I’m pleasantly surprised it was such a good game. Next week is basically a must win for the division as far as I’m concerned, though.
As usual, you are more optimistic about these things than I am.We will run the table the rest of the way.
Yup. And I don’t believe the rain hurt Greg Roman’s offense as much as Kyle Shanahan’s offense for even a second.I wonder how the game would have turned out if Dee Ford was playing. His speed on the edge might have really helped. If we end up playing them again, Ford will be playing and we will find out
I disagree but hopefully we get a good weather matchup.Yup. And I don’t believe the rain hurt Greg Roman’s offense as much as Kyle Shanahan’s offense for even a second.
Yeah, didn’t get that play call. No problem with them passing the ball, but line up in a formation with a run/pass option. Any type of play action would have had somebody open short. Jimmy has had a fair share of passes batted down this year and to try to thread the needle on 4th and 1 seemed risky when you only need a yard.That play call on the last 4th down was terrible. RUN IT THERE!!
I agree that it wasnt so much the play call as the formation. Shotgun told them it was a pass. Had he lined up under center and did a little play action going one way while a RB or Kittle went the other, it's an easy flip pass for the first down.Yeah, didn’t get that play call. No problem with them passing the ball, but line up in a formation with a run/pass option. Any type of play action would have had somebody open short. Jimmy has had a fair share of passes batted down this year and to try to thread the needle on 4th and 1 seemed risky when you only need a yard.
I’ve posted this before but it’s pretty maddening. He got away with a couple of throws too. He’s a pretty good quarterback that is going to make at least one potentially catastrophic mistake per game. I can’t remember watching anyone else with that degree of skill where I’m still 25% terrified every time he steps back to throw.Like the Seattle game, Jimmy’s fumble takes away the momentum. He has been really good for the most part, but has to protect the ball better. 10 picks and 9 fumbles (5 lost). Not good.
Yep. Love the guy, but he scares the hell out of me sometimes.I’ve posted this before but it’s pretty maddening. He got a away with a couple of throws too. He’s a pretty good quarterback that is going to make at least one potentially catastrophic mistake per game. I can’t remember watching anyone else with that degree of skill where I’m still 25% terrified every time he steps back to throw.
Great game from a fan standpoint. Where was the Niner defense? Saints fans asking the same thing about their D but sheesh, they tackled like a youth football team today.No idea where defense was today, but man, what an offense performance!!!
Jimmy BALLED OUT and Kittle = CLUTCH.
Wow, I'm spent from watching that back and forth.
Hope Richburg isn't out for the year but it doesn't look good.