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Official 2022 college football thread: its conference realignment season. (2 Viewers)

Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, they’re not getting in. Call it unfair if you want but it just isn’t going to happen.

Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, I think OSU jumps them for the OSU-UM rematch. That way there won't be the possibility of an all Big 10 National Championship game
If TCU loses, I think it’s
1. UGA
2. Mich
3. Bama
4. OSU

I think the opposite. Don’t see them pairing up the conferences in the first round of the playoffs. I think they’ll try and avoid that at all costs.
I’d guess they’d much rather pair the conferences in the first game instead of taking the chance of the pairing in the championship.
Kansas state will have two very large fan bases cheering it on today.
 
If chaos reigns, does Bama really get in over Tennessee?
Yes.
This is the problem I have with the committee. Neither made the SEC title game, they finished with the same record, and they played head to head. That last part has to actually count for something given the other two.

“Well we think…” when two teams that don’t play in separate conferences has to rule, but there was a game and Bama lost.
Tennessee got destroyed by a crappy South Carolina team. That game has to count for something too.

Bama lost to UT on a walkoff field goal on the road. Big difference.
Who is Bama’s best win? I get Tennessee lost bad too, but Bama played two teams this year and lost to both of them. At least Tennessee has a win against Bama. Bama’s best win is Ole Miss so all they’ve earned is the paper supposition that they should be good.

I think it would happen anyway but they’ve also shown injuries play a part. Hooker’s injury puts the nail in Tennessee.
 
Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, they’re not getting in. Call it unfair if you want but it just isn’t going to happen.

Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, I think OSU jumps them for the OSU-UM rematch. That way there won't be the possibility of an all Big 10 National Championship game
If TCU loses, I think it’s
1. UGA
2. Mich
3. Bama
4. OSU

I think the opposite. Don’t see them pairing up the conferences in the first round of the playoffs. I think they’ll try and avoid that at all costs.
I’d guess they’d much rather pair the conferences in the first game instead of taking the chance of the pairing in the championship.
Kansas state will have two very large fan bases cheering it on today.
I think K-State wins this one today. They have been improving all year and were taking TCU to the woodshed the first time before two QB’s got hurt.
 
Oh my!

I didn’t stay up to watch the USC game (watched till half time).

Mixed emotions.

I was so embarrassed last week by how bad the Buckeyes lost, I didn’t think they deserved to be in the playoffs no matter what. But here we are and they are the fourth deserving team it appears.

After their exposure last week, I wouldn’t expect much in the playoffs, but maybe there is a chance the Buckeyes put it all together for two games?

I’m back on the train! Go Bucks!
 
Oh my!

I didn’t stay up to watch the USC game (watched till half time).

Mixed emotions.

I was so embarrassed last week by how bad the Buckeyes lost, I didn’t think they deserved to be in the playoffs no matter what. But here we are and they are the fourth deserving team it appears.

After their exposure last week, I wouldn’t expect much in the playoffs, but maybe there is a chance the Buckeyes put it all together for two games?

I’m back on the train! Go Bucks!
Bucks will be at full strength, with the possible exception of Treyveon. We’ll give Georgia all they want.
 
I just don't see how TCU at 3 gets leaped by both 5 and 6 with a loss especially since, right now, TCU is undefeated and playing in their con title game, while Bama has 2 losses and isn't playing in their con title game. I think its still in TCUs best interest to win today to avoid the possibility of getting slighted by the committee as I think its about 60/40 that TCU is in with a loss today.
 
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In the past, a team like Bama could sneak in because you could tell they were just better than the teams being considered. Kind of like GA is this year. Nobody has even considered them to be out even if they lose today. This Bama team is not like those teams. They have weak spots, questionable coaching at times and would probably have 4 or 5 losses except for one player. I think OSU would beat them by two scores.
If we are going to pick teams to go to the playoffs because they used to be good, what's the point? All of the one or 2 loss conference champs should go before them.
 
In the past, a team like Bama could sneak in because you could tell they were just better than the teams being considered. Kind of like GA is this year. Nobody has even considered them to be out even if they lose today. This Bama team is not like those teams. They have weak spots, questionable coaching at times and would probably have 4 or 5 losses except for one player. I think OSU would beat them by two scores.
If we are going to pick teams to go to the playoffs because they used to be good, what's the point? All of the one or 2 loss conference champs should go before them.
That is a bold statement. But, I agree with your general point. They shouldn't be in the final group. The thing is, that even with the Bama situation as you describe, they could still give every one of those top teams a run for their money and potentially win. Thus they are still in the conversation.
 
I’d like to see a possible UM-OSU rematch in the final, not the semis. That only happens if UM continues its run and if OSU upsets Georgia. The championship game, then, would be huuuuge.
 
In the past, a team like Bama could sneak in because you could tell they were just better than the teams being considered. Kind of like GA is this year. Nobody has even considered them to be out even if they lose today. This Bama team is not like those teams. They have weak spots, questionable coaching at times and would probably have 4 or 5 losses except for one player. I think OSU would beat them by two scores.
If we are going to pick teams to go to the playoffs because they used to be good, what's the point? All of the one or 2 loss conference champs should go before them.
If the only teams invited to the playoffs this year were almost “perfect”, we could jump right to the Georgia Michigan championship.
You’re absolutely right that this year’s bama team isn’t close to the previous few.
But their two losses are by a total of 4 points including OT and a last second FG.
tOSU just got walloped by Michigan.

Many voters use their eyes to rank teams, more so when there isn’t a clear objective difference. To many, we think bama would be more likely to win than any team other than Michigan and Georgia. If TCU wins they’re easily the 3. If not, it’s interesting.

I think it would have been better if the precedent was only conference champions could get in, but that clearly hasn’t been the case. The new 12 team format fixes that to a degree but then we’ll still debate seeds 10-12 (or so)
 
I think K-State wins this one today.
Bite your tongue
For the Big 12s sake I want TCU to win. But the Big 12 historically has stepped on its own dong by getting teams eliminated from the playoff by having this championship game.

I’d much rather have TCU in the playoff than Ohio State or Alabama again. Yuck to that.
Even as I sit here in Alabama, I’ll definitely cheer for the tide if they get in andI Actually think they could win it all but I want TCU to win and get in. Also wanted USC in, mostly just for new blood.
 
I think K-State wins this one today.
Bite your tongue
For the Big 12s sake I want TCU to win. But the Big 12 historically has stepped on its own dong by getting teams eliminated from the playoff by having this championship game.

I’d much rather have TCU in the playoff than Ohio State or Alabama again. Yuck to that.
Even as I sit here in Alabama, I’ll definitely cheer for the tide if they get in andI Actually think they could win it all but I want TCU to win and get in. Also wanted USC in, mostly just for new blood.
Unfortunately, USC bled out - somewhat literally - last night.
 
The only way TCU is out is if they get a major beating, probably even worse than USC last night. They should be pretty safe.
 
In the past, a team like Bama could sneak in because you could tell they were just better than the teams being considered. Kind of like GA is this year. Nobody has even considered them to be out even if they lose today. This Bama team is not like those teams. They have weak spots, questionable coaching at times and would probably have 4 or 5 losses except for one player. I think OSU would beat them by two scores.
If we are going to pick teams to go to the playoffs because they used to be good, what's the point? All of the one or 2 loss conference champs should go before them.
That is a bold statement. But, I agree with your general point. They shouldn't be in the final group. The thing is, that even with the Bama situation as you describe, they could still give every one of those top teams a run for their money and potentially win. Thus they are still in the conversation.
I agree. Bama COULD give them all a run for their money. So could LSU, so could Penn State. Hell, if LSU somehow pulls off a miracle today, then they should get in over Bama. Conference champs and H2H tiebreaker, and I'm not even close to advocating for that, just that they are better than Bama this year.
As far as all the "close loss" arguments, let's not ignore the close wins. They only beat the Texas schools by a few points. It works both ways. Bama does not have the resume this year.
 
Today just seems anticlimactic. On a day where the sport should shine, only one game means anything- the Big 12 championship. Thanks to coaching departures, player transfers, and others sitting out for the NFL - the bowls will continue to be junk. IMO, the season ended last night with the USC loss.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
Yep, worst of both worlds. Hate it
 
I don't hate to say it but USC you have peaked with these current coaches. Last night USC playing against UTAH brought back so many memories of LR and Grinch. Deuces
 
I guess I haven't paid much attention to the committee and how they operate, but the way these gameday guys are talking, Georgia and Michigan are #1/#2 no matter what they do today. The questions are only about what happens with 3/4. Is that accurate?
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
 
I guess I haven't paid much attention to the committee and how they operate, but the way these gameday guys are talking, Georgia and Michigan are #1/#2 no matter what they do today. The questions are only about what happens with 3/4. Is that accurate?
Eh, Pretty much. If Georgia were to lose, it is conceivable that Michigan assumes the number 1 spot. I could see if Michigan lost and TCU won, those two could swap the 2/3 spots, but that is pretty irrelevant.
 
Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, they’re not getting in. Call it unfair if you want but it just isn’t going to happen.

Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, I think OSU jumps them for the OSU-UM rematch. That way there won't be the possibility of an all Big 10 National Championship game
If TCU loses, I think it’s
1. UGA
2. Mich
3. Bama
4. OSU

I think the opposite. Don’t see them pairing up the conferences in the first round of the playoffs. I think they’ll try and avoid that at all costs.
I’d guess they’d much rather pair the conferences in the first game instead of taking the chance of the pairing in the championship.
Kansas state will have two very large fan bases cheering it on today.
I think K-State wins this one today. They have been improving all year and were taking TCU to the woodshed the first time before two QB’s got hurt.

Teams playing the extra game in their conference title games seem like a punishment now.
 
I guess I haven't paid much attention to the committee and how they operate, but the way these gameday guys are talking, Georgia and Michigan are #1/#2 no matter what they do today. The questions are only about what happens with 3/4. Is that accurate?
Eh, Pretty much. If Georgia were to lose, it is conceivable that Michigan assumes the number 1 spot. I could see if Michigan lost and TCU won, those two could swap the 2/3 spots, but that is pretty irrelevant.
Just wondering....I can't say I get all excited about these championships in CFB. It's always been a blind spot for me, so I don't pay a ton of attention. It just seemed odd the way they were talking about it.
 
Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, they’re not getting in. Call it unfair if you want but it just isn’t going to happen.

Regardless of TCU outcome
UGa
Mich
TCU
OSU
If TCU loses, I think OSU jumps them for the OSU-UM rematch. That way there won't be the possibility of an all Big 10 National Championship game
If TCU loses, I think it’s
1. UGA
2. Mich
3. Bama
4. OSU

I think the opposite. Don’t see them pairing up the conferences in the first round of the playoffs. I think they’ll try and avoid that at all costs.
I’d guess they’d much rather pair the conferences in the first game instead of taking the chance of the pairing in the championship.
Kansas state will have two very large fan bases cheering it on today.
I think K-State wins this one today. They have been improving all year and were taking TCU to the woodshed the first time before two QB’s got hurt.

Teams playing the extra game in their conference title games seem like a punishment now.
Like the first SECC in ‘92.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
That’s fair. Not quite basketball where the only reason I watch at all before March is to get a feel for the tournament. And just to feel better about my Alma mater
 
I guess I haven't paid much attention to the committee and how they operate, but the way these gameday guys are talking, Georgia and Michigan are #1/#2 no matter what they do today. The questions are only about what happens with 3/4. Is that accurate?
Fairly. There’s something to be said if LSU happens to win that bama gets put in. At least that’s what we’ll be saying around these here parts.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
Agreed. Just saying - Utah is hot now, but do they deserve a shot to play for a title with their three losses in the same way undefeated Georgia, Michigan, or TCU do? That’s what I fear. Also likely means some of the big dogs will schedule even more garbage schedules so-as to just ensure a top 12 finish.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
Agreed. Just saying - Utah is hot now, but do they deserve a shot to play for a title with their three losses in the same way undefeated Georgia, Michigan, or TCU do? That’s what I fear. Also likely means some of the big dogs will schedule even more garbage schedules so-as to just ensure a top 12 finish.

Hard to believe Utah lost 3 times after watching last night. Reminded me of the Michigan-OSU game. Utah and Michigan were both physically dominant over USC and OSU.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
Agreed. Just saying - Utah is hot now, but do they deserve a shot to play for a title with their three losses in the same way undefeated Georgia, Michigan, or TCU do? That’s what I fear. Also likely means some of the big dogs will schedule even more garbage schedules so-as to just ensure a top 12 finish.
It starts to look like the NFL where the first half of the season doesn’t mean all that much, other than winning just enough to stay in contention.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
Agreed. Just saying - Utah is hot now, but do they deserve a shot to play for a title with their three losses in the same way undefeated Georgia, Michigan, or TCU do? That’s what I fear. Also likely means some of the big dogs will schedule even more garbage schedules so-as to just ensure a top 12 finish.
Ironically Utah was the trendy preseason pick to win the BCS at roughly 25/1.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.

I see it as the exact opposite...so many more games will have playoff implications because the playoff will no longer just be the elite and teams will still be alive even after an early loss or two.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.

I see it as the exact opposite...so many more games will have playoff implications because the playoff will no longer just be the elite and teams will still be alive even after an early loss or two.
I also like there being home teams in the first round. Might see some southern teams playing up north in the snow.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.

I see it as the exact opposite...so many more games will have playoff implications because the playoff will no longer just be the elite and teams will still be alive even after an early loss or two.
I also like there being home teams in the first round. Might see some southern teams playing up north in the snow.

Absolutely...I wish the whole thing was done that way.
 
Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.
It does diminish the impact of individual regular season games. It also renders the conference championship games obsolete IMO. Money and tradition may keep them around, but why would any conference want to hand their "2nd best team" a loss to lower their seed or bump them out of the playoff picture every year?
Actually it’s the opposite. If a conference champion is garbage, it would make the greater pool more diluted. A 3 loss Utah would now be in the playoff. If Purdue upsets the world, they’d be in despite 4 losses.
Say this happens, Purdue will have no chance in a playoff. Any given day certainly applies, but it is far harder to string a run of wins together in football vs March Madness where one person can carry a team of 5.
Agreed. Just saying - Utah is hot now, but do they deserve a shot to play for a title with their three losses in the same way undefeated Georgia, Michigan, or TCU do? That’s what I fear. Also likely means some of the big dogs will schedule even more garbage schedules so-as to just ensure a top 12 finish.
Ironically Utah was the trendy preseason pick to win the BCS at roughly 25/1.
I’m glad to see others still refer to the BCS.
 
I guess I haven't paid much attention to the committee and how they operate, but the way these gameday guys are talking, Georgia and Michigan are #1/#2 no matter what they do today. The questions are only about what happens with 3/4. Is that accurate?
Eh, Pretty much. If Georgia were to lose, it is conceivable that Michigan assumes the number 1 spot. I could see if Michigan lost and TCU won, those two could swap the 2/3 spots, but that is pretty irrelevant.
I think the committee will tweak the 1/2 and 3/4 rankings as necessary to avoid a UM-OSU rematch in the first round
 
I just don't see how TCU at 3 gets leaped by both 5 and 6 with a loss especially since, right now, TCU is undefeated and playing in their con title game, while Bama has 2 losses and isn't playing in their con title game. I think its still in TCUs best interest to win today to avoid the possibility of getting slighted by the committee as I think its about 60/40 that TCU is in with a loss today.
mich vs Bama > mich vs tcu
 
I just don't see how TCU at 3 gets leaped by both 5 and 6 with a loss especially since, right now, TCU is undefeated and playing in their con title game, while Bama has 2 losses and isn't playing in their con title game. I think its still in TCUs best interest to win today to avoid the possibility of getting slighted by the committee as I think its about 60/40 that TCU is in with a loss today.
mich vs Bama > mich vs tcu
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Agreed. The fear I have with the 12 team playoff is the regular season will start to become anticlimactic.

This year a win like Tennessee over Bama or Georgia over Oregon or ND over Clemson had implications. In that format it might just be a small blip on the way to a slightly lower seed.

I see it as the exact opposite...so many more games will have playoff implications because the playoff will no longer just be the elite and teams will still be alive even after an early loss or two.
I also like there being home teams in the first round. Might see some southern teams playing up north in the snow.
Me likey.
 

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