BobbyLayne
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can’t believe they didn’t relegate Guerrero (Movistar) for giving Julius Johansen a shoulder barge today - fighting for a couple meaningless KOM points
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***Official 2023 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The Vuelta will be a Primoz, Vigo, G, Remco mosh pit (1 Viewer)
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can’t believe they didn’t relegate Guerrero (Movistar) for giving Julius Johansen a shoulder barge today - fighting for a couple meaningless KOM points
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
4 teams (not 2 as I stated earlier) have the Jonas - Tadej duo
finished 1-2-3-5 today
8th time since 2021 they’ve finished a stage 1-2 (+ the past two Tours)
finished 1-2-3-5 today
8th time since 2021 they’ve finished a stage 1-2 (+ the past two Tours)
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That was weird. It was either insanely aggressive or totally oblivious.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Tobias Johannessen (not julius Johansen)
Guerreiro (not Guerrero)
#proudtobeanamerican
Guerreiro (not Guerrero)
#proudtobeanamerican
Jaysus
Good times!
I just don't think he actually had to legs to be sprinting there and lost control as a result.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Same. I think he wasn’t in full control.
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Footballguy
Stage 7 has the lowest Profile Score of any stage. 169.9 km, intermediate sprint, 1.2 km cat 4 climb, bunch sprint finish.
Points Classification standings through Stage 6:
Points Classification standings through Stage 6:
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That's kind of what I thought live too. He's all over the place. But then on the replay you can see he chicken wings the other rider near the line.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What a great stage. My team is starting to come into form. Need some sprint points out of Dylan in the next few days. All my GC guys needs to centrifuge their blood and get some epo Version 2 going. Looking at you O’Connor.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Man I Love watching them do the tourmalet through la mongie. That’s right where we camped. so much fun!
grateful zed
Footballguy
miguel Induráin's ability and physical size—1.86 m (6 ft 1 in) and 76 kilograms (168 lb)
boy he could climb.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
The best science helped.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I was a little surprised Jonas didn't flick him, have him take a turn. Or ride 80% and recover so you'll have something to respond with if he does attack.
If you watch the replay, jonas looked to the side because a flare caught his eye. Tadej was waiting for that moment, he was way up the road by the time the Fishmonger realized what had just happened.
But he didn't panic. Pog is one of the greatest ever, he stayed cool and limited the damage. TJV had an awesome day but that last couple km leaves a sour taste.
Awesome Tour so far, lots of great stages left (9, 10, 11, 13, 15, 17.)
If you watch the replay, jonas looked to the side because a flare caught his eye. Tadej was waiting for that moment, he was way up the road by the time the Fishmonger realized what had just happened.
But he didn't panic. Pog is one of the greatest ever, he stayed cool and limited the damage. TJV had an awesome day but that last couple km leaves a sour taste.
Awesome Tour so far, lots of great stages left (9, 10, 11, 13, 15, 17.)
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
Agreed
grateful zed
Footballguy
are those days over?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Stage 6
TADEJ POGACAR
Col du Tourmalet (17,00km; 7,42%; 1262m)
45'11min
22.57km/h
1676 VAM
5.98ᵉw/kg (est.)
Cote de Cauterets (5,20km; 7,60%; 395m)
12'58min
24.06km/h
1828 VAM
6.75ᵉw/kg (est.)
Career Best Performance.
(the day after Vingegaard set the fastest ever climb on Col de Marie Blanque)
TADEJ POGACAR
Col du Tourmalet (17,00km; 7,42%; 1262m)
45'11min
22.57km/h
1676 VAM
5.98ᵉw/kg (est.)
Cote de Cauterets (5,20km; 7,60%; 395m)
12'58min
24.06km/h
1828 VAM
6.75ᵉw/kg (est.)
Career Best Performance.
(the day after Vingegaard set the fastest ever climb on Col de Marie Blanque)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lanterne Rouge cycling podcast is my favorite YouTube channel for recaps
Their website blog puts out some great data and analysis as well
Their website blog puts out some great data and analysis as well
Jonas Vingegaard Skyrockets on Marie Blanque | Tour de France 2023 Stage 5
Tadej Pogačar Returns to his Best | Tour de France Stage 6 2023
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
encaitar
Footballguy
They have better science now.
grateful zed
Footballguy
link?
at doing a century and averaging under 100. That's ridiculous.
encaitar
Footballguy
Wout Van Aert raced at over 50 kph for over an hour to lead the breakout today and still paced the final climb for Vangegaard and Pogacar... who both broke the Col Du Tourmalet record for fastest climb today.... I'll get you a real link in 10 years when the authorities catch up to it.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The official data is beautiful post.
The 51 bolded riders were selected by LE FBG TDF Velogames members.
Points are through Stage 6.
ROI = pts/cost
The 51 bolded riders were selected by LE FBG TDF Velogames members.
Points are through Stage 6.
ROI = pts/cost
| All Rounder (2) | TdF 2023 | |||
| cost | pts | ROI | % OWNED | |
| Jonas Vingegaard | 26 | 589 | 22.65 | 43.1% |
| Tadej Pogačar | 24 | 870 | 36.25 | 68.7% |
| Mattias Skjelmose | 14 | 257 | 18.36 | 14.1% |
| Ben O'Connor | 14 | 47 | 3.36 | 13.0% |
| Enric Mas | 14 | 0 | 0.00 | 7.4% |
| Adam Yates | 12 | 522 | 43.50 | 12.8% |
| Richard Carapaz | 12 | 0 | 0.00 | 12.2% |
| Daniel Felipe Martínez | 10 | 136 | 13.60 | 3.0% |
| Egan Bernal | 10 | 24 | 2.40 | 10.1% |
| Neilson Powless | 8 | 226 | 28.25 | 8.4% |
| Pele Bilbao | 8 | 159 | 19.88 | 9.0% |
| Wilco Kelderman | 8 | 137 | 17.13 | 1.9% |
| Marc Soler | 8 | 74 | 9.25 | 1.0% |
| Matteo Jorgenson | 8 | 2 | 0.25 | 4.8% |
| Alexey Lutsenko | 8 | 0 | 0.00 | 1.6% |
| Tobias Halland Johannessen | 6 | 222 | 37.00 | 3.0% |
| Ion Izagirre | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 1.1% |
| Rigoberto Urán | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 3.4% |
| Climbers (2) | ||||
| Jai Hindley | 16 | 633 | 39.56 | 18.1% |
| David Gaudu | 14 | 231 | 16.50 | 10.7% |
| Romain Bardet | 12 | 209 | 17.42 | 9.0% |
| Simon Yates | 10 | 440 | 44.00 | 13.3% |
| Giulio Ciccone | 10 | 293 | 29.30 | 16.8% |
| Carlos Rodríguez | 10 | 290 | 29.00 | 6.0% |
| Thibaut Pinot | 10 | 173 | 17.30 | 13.9% |
| Mikel Landa | 10 | 142 | 14.20 | 7.3% |
| Julian Alaphilippe | 10 | 38 | 3.80 | 24.9% |
| Michael Woods | 8 | 310 | 38.75 | 6.5% |
| Felix Gall | 8 | 247 | 30.88 | 10.2% |
| Sepp Kuss | 8 | 154 | 19.25 | 13.5% |
| Jack Haig | 8 | 104 | 13.00 | 4.6% |
| Dylan Teuns | 8 | 103 | 12.88 | 1.7% |
| Rafał Majka | 8 | 74 | 9.25 | 2.6% |
| Louis Meintjes | 8 | 25 | 3.13 | 4.3% |
| Guillaume Martin | 8 | 12 | 1.50 | 5.4% |
| Pierre Latour | 8 | 0 | 0.00 | 1.1% |
| Emanuel Buchmann | 6 | 247 | 41.17 | 6.1% |
| Ruben Guerreiro | 6 | 203 | 33.83 | 4.2% |
| Maxim van Gils | 6 | 26 | 4.33 | 8.8% |
| Patrick Konrad | 6 | 23 | 3.83 | 1.6% |
| Wout Poels | 6 | 20 | 3.33 | 5.3% |
| Aurélien Paret-Peintre | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 4.3% |
| Esteban Chaves | 6 | 1 | 0.17 | 6.7% |
| Antonio Pedrero | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.7% |
| Kevin Vermaerke | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 1.1% |
| Warren Barguil | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 6.9% |
| Sprinter (1) | ||||
| Wout Van Aert | 18 | 647 | 35.94 | 36.3% |
| Jasper Phillipsen | 14 | 519 | 37.07 | 25.3% |
| Mads Pederson | 14 | 186 | 13.29 | 8.6% |
| Fabio Jakobsen | 12 | 144 | 12.00 | 12.8% |
| Biniam Girmay | 12 | 68 | 5.67 | 11.4% |
| Caleb Ewan | 10 | 362 | 36.20 | 3.5% |
| Dylan Groenewegen | 10 | 125 | 12.50 | 4.4% |
| Phil Bauhaus | 8 | 354 | 44.25 | 1.1% |
| Mark Cavendish | 8 | 245 | 30.63 | 16.0% |
| Jordi Meeus | 8 | 150 | 18.75 | 1.5% |
| Matteo Trentin | 8 | 78 | 9.75 | 0.5% |
| Peter Sagan | 8 | 50 | 6.25 | 1.9% |
| Sam Welsford | 8 | 41 | 5.13 | 2.1% |
| Bryan Coquard | 6 | 291 | 48.50 | 1.7% |
| Alexander Kristoff | 6 | 129 | 21.50 | 2.7% |
| Danny Van Poppel | 6 | 128 | 21.33 | 0.7% |
| Corbin Strong | 6 | 101 | 16.83 | 1.0% |
| Luka Mezgec | 6 | 94 | 15.67 | 0.2% |
| Luca Mozzato | 6 | 80 | 13.33 | 0.1% |
| Søren Wærenskjold | 6 | 27 | 4.50 | 0.6% |
| Alex Aranburu | 6 | 25 | 4.17 | 1.1% |
| John Degenkolb | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.6% |
| Cees Bol | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.4% |
| Anthony Turgis | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.1% |
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| Unclassed (3) | ||||
| Thomas Pidcock | 10 | 246 | 24.60 | 38.9% |
| Mathieu Van der Poel | 10 | 52 | 5.20 | 44.4% |
| Victor Lafay | 8 | 453 | 56.63 | 0.7% |
| Christophe Laporte | 8 | 80 | 10.00 | 12.6% |
| Valentin Madouas | 8 | 37 | 4.63 | 5.1% |
| Fred Wright | 8 | 20 | 2.50 | 21.4% |
| Magnus Cort | 8 | 0 | 0.00 | 18.2% |
| James Shaw | 6 | 162 | 27.00 | 0.4% |
| Tiesj Benoot | 6 | 110 | 18.33 | 4.4% |
| Steff Cras | 6 | 99 | 16.50 | 0.2% |
| Mikkel Bjerg | 6 | 74 | 12.33 | 1.9% |
| Felix Großschartner | 6 | 74 | 12.33 | 1.0% |
| Pascal Eenkhoorn | 6 | 70 | 11.67 | 0.5% |
| Dylan Van Baarle | 6 | 68 | 11.33 | 2.3% |
| Nathan Van Hooydonck | 6 | 68 | 11.33 | 0.7% |
| Michał Kwiatkowski | 6 | 66 | 11.00 | 1.4% |
| Jonas Gregaard | 6 | 59 | 9.83 | 0.4% |
| Rémi Cavagna | 6 | 42 | 7.00 | 2.0% |
| Edvald Boasson Hagen | 6 | 40 | 6.67 | 1.7% |
| Søren Kragh Andersen | 6 | 36 | 6.00 | 2.0% |
| Victor Campenaerts | 6 | 34 | 5.67 | 2.5% |
| Valentin Ferron | 6 | 32 | 5.33 | 0.1% |
| Benoît Cosnefroy | 6 | 22 | 3.67 | 2.7% |
| Nikias Arndt | 6 | 22 | 3.67 | 1.4% |
| Matej Mohorič | 6 | 20 | 3.33 | 9.4% |
| Mike Teunissen | 6 | 20 | 3.33 | 0.3% |
| Gorka Izagirre | 6 | 20 | 3.33 | 0.6% |
| Matis Louvel | 6 | 20 | 3.33 | 0.1% |
| Bob Jungels | 6 | 18 | 3.00 | 3.1% |
| Nils Politt | 6 | 18 | 3.00 | 1.3% |
| Quinten Hermans | 6 | 16 | 2.67 | 0.4% |
| Jonathan Castroviejo | 6 | 14 | 2.33 | 1.8% |
| Omar Fraile | 6 | 14 | 2.33 | 0.7% |
| Ben Turner | 6 | 14 | 2.33 | 0.8% |
| Chris Harper | 6 | 14 | 2.33 | 0.2% |
| Georg Zimmermann | 6 | 12 | 2.00 | 2.3% |
| Simon Geschke | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 3.0% |
| Axel Zingle | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 1.9% |
| Juan Pedro López | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 0.8% |
| Quinn Simmons | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 5.6% |
| Jasper Stuyven | 6 | 8 | 1.33 | 0.9% |
| Jasper De Buyst | 6 | 6 | 1.00 | 0.3% |
| Hugo Houle | 6 | 4 | 0.67 | 0.9% |
| Kasper Asgreen | 6 | 4 | 0.67 | 5.5% |
| Clément Berthet | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 0.6% |
| Kevin Geniets | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 0.1% |
| Stefan Küng | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 4.0% |
| Quentin Pacher | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 0.1% |
| Anthon Charmig | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 0.3% |
| Rasmus Tiller | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 0.4% |
| Torstein Træen | 6 | 2 | 0.33 | 5.7% |
| Nick Schultz | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.3% |
| Rui Costa | 6 | 0 | 0.00 | 3.6% |
| Vegard Stake Laengen | 4 | 74 | 18.50 | 4.2% |
| Laurent Pichon | 4 | 42 | 10.50 | 0.6% |
| Christopher Juul-Jensen | 4 | 37 | 9.25 | 0.8% |
| Simon Guglielmi | 4 | 36 | 9.00 | 0.4% |
| Lilian Calmejane | 4 | 28 | 7.00 | 7.0% |
| Oliver Naesen | 4 | 27 | 6.75 | 2.0% |
| Krists Neilands | 4 | 26 | 6.50 | 1.0% |
| Alex Kirsch | 4 | 20 | 5.00 | 3.3% |
| Marco Haller | 4 | 18 | 4.50 | 2.1% |
| Silvan Dillier | 4 | 16 | 4.00 | 1.2% |
| Michael Gogl | 4 | 16 | 4.00 | 1.5% |
| Jonas Rickaert | 4 | 16 | 4.00 | 1.2% |
| Ramon Sinkeldam | 4 | 16 | 4.00 | 0.6% |
| Anthony Perez | 4 | 14 | 3.50 | 3.9% |
| Lawson Craddock | 4 | 14 | 3.50 | 5.4% |
| Luke Durbridge | 4 | 14 | 3.50 | 2.3% |
| Elmar Reinders | 4 | 14 | 3.50 | 0.3% |
| Alexis Renard | 4 | 8 | 2.00 | 1.0% |
| Tony Gallopin | 4 | 8 | 2.00 | 6.3% |
| Frederik Frison | 4 | 6 | 1.50 | 1.0% |
| Jacopo Guarnieri | 4 | 6 | 1.50 | 0.3% |
| Florian Vermeersch | 4 | 6 | 1.50 | 6.2% |
| Stan Dewulf | 4 | 2 | 0.50 | 1.2% |
| Nans Peters | 4 | 2 | 0.50 | 7.5% |
| Olivier Le Gac | 4 | 2 | 0.50 | 0.9% |
| Lars Van Den Berg | 4 | 2 | 0.50 | 1.8% |
| Jonas Abrahamsen | 4 | 2 | 0.50 | 2.0% |
| Michael Mørkøv | 4 | 0 | 0.00 | 7.5% |
| Wild Card (1) |
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Won't be enough to hang with Jonas
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Correct
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Yep. And once the last skyy riders retire I can’t wait for someone to sell the story. Should make a good Netflix documentary. “The TDF, the boring years”
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Jumbo visma is the bigger problem. Pog is always alone when it matters. Hopefully Yates is spending a few clandestine hours away from the team.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Competing teams with the most grand tour podiums in the last 5 years.
The number of bunchsprints per grand tour in the last 10 years.
Grand tour winners without a one day race victory.
Dropouts per edition after 6 stages.
Competitors with most racedays this season.
This is fascinating for me in that Sepp Kuss is not listed. He's way down the list on km ridden this year as well, despite riding the entire Giro in May. Only other races were weeklong tours in UAE (Feb) and Catalunya (Mar), so actually a pretty light schedule outside of the GTs.
There are 808 vertical meters today. There are 18 stages with more vertical meters.
| # | TEAM | TOTAL | TOUR | GIRO | VUELTA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | INEOS Grenadiers | 12 | 6 | 5 | 1 |
| 2 | Jumbo-Visma | 9 | 4 | 2 | 3 |
| 3 | UAE Team Emirates | 6 | 3 | 1 | 2 |
| 4 | Bahrain - Victorious | 4 | - | 3 | 1 |
| 5 | Team dsm - firmenich | 4 | 1 | 3 | - |
| 6 | Movistar Team | 4 | - | 1 | 3 |
| 7 | Team Jayco AlUla | 2 | - | 1 | 1 |
| 8 | Astana Qazaqstan Team | 2 | - | 1 | 1 |
| 9 | Soudal - Quick Step | 2 | - | - | 2 |
| 10 | Lidl - Trek | 1 | 1 | - | - |
| 11 | BORA - hansgrohe | 1 | - | 1 | - |
| 12 | EF Education-EasyPost | 1 | - | - | 1 |
The number of bunchsprints per grand tour in the last 10 years.
- Giro 44
- Tour 65
- Vuelta 35
Grand tour winners without a one day race victory.
| YEAR | RIDER |
|---|---|
| 2022 | HINDLEY Jai |
| 2020 | GEOGHEGAN HART Tao |
| 2017 | DUMOULIN Tom |
| 2015 | ARU Fabio |
| 2012 | WIGGINS Bradley |
| 2006 | LANDIS Floyd |
| 1990 | GIOVANNETTI Marco |
| 1987 | HERRERA Luis Alberto |
| 1974 | FUENTE José Manuel |
| 1959 | SUAREZ Antonio |
| 1956 | WALKOWIAK Roger |
| 1950 | RODRÍGUEZ Emilio |
| 1939 | VALETTI Giovanni |
| 1932 | PESENTI Antonio |
| 1931 | CAMUSSO Francesco |
| 1926 | BUYSSE Lucien |
| 1922 | LAMBOT Firmin |
Dropouts per edition after 6 stages.
| YEAR | PARTICIPANTS | DROPOUTS |
|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 176 | 4 |
| 2022 | 176 | 4 |
| 2021 | 184 | 7 |
| 2020 | 176 | 4 |
| 2019 | 176 | 2 |
| 2018 | 176 | 6 |
| 2017 | 198 | 4 |
| 2016 | 198 | |
| 2015 | 198 | 10 |
| 2014 | 198 | 9 |
Competitors with most racedays this season.
| # | RIDER | RACEDAYS |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | CAVENDISH Mark | 64 |
| 2 | HAIG Jack | 59 |
| 3 | PICHON Laurent | 56 |
| 4 | PINOT Thibaut | 54 |
| 5 | CAVAGNA Rémi | 52 |
| 6 | NAESEN Oliver | 52 |
| 7 | CORT Magnus | 52 |
| 8 | MOSCON Gianni | 51 |
| 9 | ZINGLE Axel | 51 |
| 10 | PETERS Nans | 51 |
| 11 | RENARD Alexis | 51 |
| 12 | HALLER Marco | 51 |
| 13 | BARGUIL Warren | 51 |
| 14 | GALLOPIN Tony | 51 |
| 15 | COQUARD Bryan | 51 |
| 16 | MEEUS Jordi | 51 |
| 17 | ZIMMERMANN Georg | 50 |
| 18 | CHAMPOUSSIN Clément | 49 |
| 19 | BJERG Mikkel | 49 |
| 20 | BOL Cees | 49 |
This is fascinating for me in that Sepp Kuss is not listed. He's way down the list on km ridden this year as well, despite riding the entire Giro in May. Only other races were weeklong tours in UAE (Feb) and Catalunya (Mar), so actually a pretty light schedule outside of the GTs.
There are 808 vertical meters today. There are 18 stages with more vertical meters.
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Riders leading after 6 stages of Tour de France that won final GC since 1969
Top sprinters in Tour de France (points and position in PCS sprinters ranking).
| YEAR | RIDER |
|---|---|
| 2017 | FROOME Chris |
| 2014 | NIBALI Vincenzo |
| 2005 | ARMSTRONG Lance |
| 1989 | LEMOND Greg |
| 1981 | HINAULT Bernard |
| 1979 | HINAULT Bernard |
| 1971 | MERCKX Eddy |
| 1970 | MERCKX Eddy |
| 1969 | MERCKX Eddy |
Top sprinters in Tour de France (points and position in PCS sprinters ranking).
| # | RIDER | POINTS | RANKING |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | PHILIPSEN Jasper | 1209.2 | 1 |
| 2 | GROENEWEGEN Dylan | 1114.6 | 2 |
| 3 | PEDERSEN Mads | 997.8 | 3 |
| 4 | JAKOBSEN Fabio | 770.7 | 5 |
| 5 | EWAN Caleb | 652.6 | 10 |
| 6 | MEEUS Jordi | 609.8 | 11 |
| 7 | COQUARD Bryan | 539.2 | 14 |
| 8 | KRISTOFF Alexander | 487.6 | 17 |
| 9 | WELSFORD Sam | 461.4 | 20 |
| 10 | GIRMAY Biniam | 433.4 | 21 |
| 11 | BAUHAUS Phil | 418.4 | 22 |
| 12 | VAN POPPEL Danny | 407.6 | 24 |
| 13 | VAN AERT Wout | 381.9 | 28 |
| 14 | ZINGLE Axel | 364.4 | 30 |
| 15 | SAGAN Peter | 347 | 34 |
| 16 | STRONG Corbin | 341.8 | 35 |
| 17 | CAVENDISH Mark | 327.4 | 38 |
| 18 | MOZZATO Luca | 318.7 | 40 |
| 19 | TRENTIN Matteo | 263.1 | 48 |
| 20 | WRIGHT Fred | 249.7 | 50 |
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This....this is freaking amazing.
Pogi attack in 4 languages.
I swear each one is better than the last lol.
Pogi attack in 4 languages.
I swear each one is better than the last lol.
BobbyLayne
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Sprinters: How is this week one but my legs feel like week three?
Peloton is rolling along at 13.8 kph
some dumbass went on a solo break
Pogačar, van Aert and PHilipsen are chilling at the very tail end of the peloton
we're taking a day alright just relax
***************
CROISSANT
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So given 35 happens today, why does no one ever discuss that Merckx had more stages per Tour back then? Just because he did it in way fewer Tours and overall stages anyway? Lots of Merckx wins were a 12a or a 23b (ie there were two stages those days) so I’d only count those as half wins, and Cav already has the record.
Merckx also has 3 Prologues which obviously shouldn’t count because they don’t have a number and a 23rd stage which as far as I’m concerned is part of the Vuelta at that point, so I’ve got him down to the high 20s total stage wins. By the end of stage 7, I’ll have rationalized him down to like 4 stage wins. Barely more than I have.
Peloton is rolling along at 13.8 kph
some dumbass went on a solo break
Pogačar, van Aert and PHilipsen are chilling at the very tail end of the peloton
we're taking a day alright just relax
***************
CROISSANT
***************
So given 35 happens today, why does no one ever discuss that Merckx had more stages per Tour back then? Just because he did it in way fewer Tours and overall stages anyway? Lots of Merckx wins were a 12a or a 23b (ie there were two stages those days) so I’d only count those as half wins, and Cav already has the record.
Merckx also has 3 Prologues which obviously shouldn’t count because they don’t have a number and a 23rd stage which as far as I’m concerned is part of the Vuelta at that point, so I’ve got him down to the high 20s total stage wins. By the end of stage 7, I’ll have rationalized him down to like 4 stage wins. Barely more than I have.
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Results of Sprint | Grignols (88 km).
| # | RIDER | POINTS |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | GUGLIELMI Simon | 20 |
| 2 | GIRMAY Biniam | 17 |
| 3 | PHILIPSEN Jasper | 15 |
| 4 | COQUARD Bryan | 13 |
| 5 | MEEUS Jordi | 11 |
| 6 | PEDERSEN Mads | 10 |
| 7 | STRONG Corbin | 9 |
| 8 | KRISTOFF Alexander | 8 |
| 9 | CAVENDISH Mark | 7 |
| 10 | BJERG Mikkel | 6 |
| 11 | RENARD Alexis | 5 |
| 12 | POGAČAR Tadej | 4 |
| 13 | TRENTIN Matteo | 3 |
| 14 | SOLER Marc | 2 |
| 15 | VERMAERKE Kevin | 1 |
Jaysus
Good times!
To be fair, it started as a 4 or 5 man break... but there was only one dumbass in it
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
To be fair, it started as a 4 or 5 man break... but there was only one dumbass in it
the other guys DS radioed they had croissants in the feed bags today
Sammy3469
Footballguy
At the top of the Tourmalet Jonas was 6.9 or so and Tadej was 6.8. I think what it shows is that Tadej has 6.8-6.9 in him longer, but Jonas can hit 7.1-2 for 5-10 minutes while Tadej can only do that for a couple of minutes (ie the classics).
If that’s the case Jonas needs to take time on the Puy and Colombian stages or have Jumbo soft pedal up some of the more mountainous stages like Mt Blanc.
To really put Tadej under stress, Jumbo needs home above 7.0 VAM for multiple minutes while Tadej can hold 6.7-6.9 longer.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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We need to get Ray Hudson and Andres Cantor calling these moves.
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@BassNBrew
Nans Peters joined the break - any chance he'll get breakaway points today? what's the rule again?
my man is sitting on 2 points, so anything would be nice....
Nans Peters joined the break - any chance he'll get breakaway points today? what's the rule again?
my man is sitting on 2 points, so anything would be nice....
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Oof. Seems like a guarantee of a pile up.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
flat tire for Cav
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
By UCI rule, all riders must use bikes and equipment which are commercially available.
That means you, average Joe, could be riding the same thing as Wout or Jonas or Tadej.
(presumably the $12-15K price tag is not an issue for the average FBG)
That means you, average Joe, could be riding the same thing as Wout or Jonas or Tadej.
(presumably the $12-15K price tag is not an issue for the average FBG)
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
Stupid Peacock feed just cut out and doesn’t seem to be restarting.
