BobbyLayne
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I'm using World Feed today (also on Peacock) just to hear fresh voices
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***Official 2023 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The Vuelta will be a Primoz, Vigo, G, Remco mosh pit (2 Viewers)
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I'm using World Feed today (also on Peacock) just to hear fresh voices
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
That’s not working either. It’s not my cable/modem cause they are working.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
freaking Peters couldn't even beat his countryman for the single KOM point on the CAT 4 climb
come on....do something....come on
come on....do something....come on
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
That was weird. Was watching the the Peacock app via my xfinity cable box. That goes out. Trying using the Firestick attached to the same TV. Nothing. Switched to an Amazon Firestick TV, That works. Try the cable box app, working again.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
58 out of 70 flat stages since 2011 ended in a bunchsprint.
83%
83%
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
peloton going 56 kph (35 mph)
what is youse guys top speed?
mine is around 15 mph but that's on a clunky 40 lb Citibike going full gas lol
what is youse guys top speed?
mine is around 15 mph but that's on a clunky 40 lb Citibike going full gas lol
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
It’s on regular tv. The last few days have been. USA network today
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
60 kph / 37.3 mph
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
r/peloton is typical dregs of the stone age but once or twice a day a gem comes across....
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Booo.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
That green jersey color sucks.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
great in isolation, invisible in the peloton
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
| 1 | PHILIPSEN Jasper | Alpecin-Deceuninck | 3:46:28 |
| 2 | CAVENDISH Mark | Astana Qazaqstan Team | 0:00 |
| 3 | GIRMAY Biniam | Intermarché - Circus - Wanty | 0:00 |
| 4 | MOZZATO Luca | Team Arkéa Samsic | 0:00 |
| 5 | GROENEWEGEN Dylan | Team Jayco AlUla | 0:00 |
| 6 | MEEUS Jordi | BORA - hansgrohe | 0:00 |
| 7 | BAUHAUS Phil | Bahrain - Victorious | 0:00 |
| 8 | COQUARD Bryan | Cofidis | 0:00 |
| 9 | KRISTOFF Alexander | Uno-X Pro Cycling Team | 0:00 |
| 10 | PEDERSEN Mads | Lidl - Trek | 0:00 |
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Meh. A 5th place. I’ll take it.
1. Dead middle of the stage.
2. 30 or less riders.
3. Measurable time gap from the next rider(s)
Stage 7»Mont-de-Marsan›Bordeaux(169.9km)
AgeBIBsGCH2HSpecialtyall teamsAG2R Citroën TeamAlpecin-DeceuninckAstana Qazaqstan TeamBahrain - VictoriousBORA - hansgroheCofidisEF Education-EasyPostGroupama - FDJINEOS GrenadiersIntermarché - Circus - WantyIsrael - Premier TechJumbo-VismaLidl - TrekLotto DstnyMovistar TeamSoudal - Quick StepTeam Arkéa SamsicTeam dsm - firmenichTeam Jayco AlUlaTotalEnergiesUAE Team EmiratesUno-X Pro Cycling Teamall nationsAustraliaAustriaBelgiumCanadaColombiaCosta RicaDenmarkEcuadorEritreaFranceGermanyGreat BritainItalyKazakhstanLatviaLuxembourgNetherlandsNew ZealandNorwayPolandPortugalSlovakiaSloveniaSouth AfricaSpainSwitzerlandUnited States
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Philipsen is by far the fastest sprinter + he has the only great leadout man in this Tour
MvdP has everybody cooked off by the time he launches
cheat code
LRCP recap
MvdP has everybody cooked off by the time he launches
cheat code
LRCP recap
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Stage 7 LEADERBOARD
- 1
349
Boerum Hill Big Ringing
BobbyLayne - 2
328
RB Brownwings WGUAFC
Jaysus - 3
301
Sand`s Saddle Sores
BassNBrew - 4
299
Spokes `n Tokes
Nick Vermeil - 5
276
Bags Of Blood
culdeus - 6
224
Armstrong`s Needle
Da Raiders - 7
216
Squeaky Wheels
Cheeseypoof - 8
203
bilingual lebanese thespians
zmanzzzz - 9
149
Monte crappe
sammy3469 - 10
113
Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty
Sand - 11
112
Forcats de la R
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
- 1
2826
Sand`s Saddle Sores
BassNBrew - 2
2667
RB Brownwings WGUAFC
Jaysus - 3
2655
Boerum Hill Big Ringing
BobbyLayne - 4
2471
Armstrong`s Needle
Da Raiders - 5
2443
Spokes `n Tokes
Nick Vermeil - 6
2331
Bags Of Blood
culdeus - 7
2323
bilingual lebanese thespians
zmanzzzz - 8
2308
Forcats de la Route
ForzaShels - 9
2207
Squeaky Wheels
Cheeseypoof - 10
2111
Monte crappe
sammy3469 - 11
1736
Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty
Sand
LE FBG TDF OVERALL STANDINGS
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Crazy that you’re not leading. I still like my team and think the attrition of 3 weeks will push me up the standings. Need Dylan to get another top 5 tomorrow and really need træn to overcome his fractured elbow. Thought he’d have done much more this first week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Win a GC stage = points classification at the finish + KOM on the climbs + Assist points for pulling the peloton. On flat stages you still get 40-100 from your GC leaders bc overall standings don't shift.
Sprinters get 20 or less from the (usually) one intermediate sprint on all the hilly stages, and zero points for points classification on the mountain stage days. It's all or nothing.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Vegard Stake Laengen outscoring MvdP was not on my bingo card
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Jan Ullrich also always looked huge on his bike compared to the other riders and also seemed to fly up the mountain pushing those big gears.
That’s how I rode. Did several power tests at 90 to 100 at the insistence of my coach at the time and always tested better at 60 to 70 rpm turning as big of a gear as feasible. Worked for me as I’d finished with the top racers in local tris on the bike and then they’d put 3 min per mile into me on the run. Maybe I was trashing my legs but always felt I could stay out of the red zone by shifting some effort from cardio to legs.
Most of our best riders locally were 150-180 pounds. Just didn’t see many guys walking around at 130 pounds. Heck, the top female riders locally weighed more than the top gc guys. I can’t grasp how a dude can weigh 130 pounds and not live in a Russian concentration camp.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
God of Thunder
look at the overhead - Thor Hushovd's shoulders are like twice as wide as the guys he's beating lol
Thanks for posting, he was one of my favorites back in the day.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
God I suck. And I just noticed McNulty isn't even in the tour? I suck so bad I even screwed that up.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Watching the highlights from stage 6 last night I was struck by that scene of Wout right after he peeled off and he was barely moving, spinning in place. It looked like a spectator stepped in to hold him up from falling over. Unbelievable day for him once again.
@Sand
Brings back memories of Snake Mountain.
I should have taken you up this https://www.strava.com/segments/649200
From kilometer 2 to 3 you gain 150m. That's a 15% average grade. It average 10.5% for 5k and then flattens out at the top. We called it the "wall" because there was a 300m section at 20% that was soul crushing. Back when I was self managing my home up there I'd work at home for 8 hours and then run up and back down the mountain before driving home. I could run up it faster than I could bike it.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
God I suck. And I just noticed McNulty isn't even in the tour? I suck so bad I even screwed that up.
I assumed you were protesting him not being selected lol
(he's already over 8000 km on the year & having a great year, presumably this was the plan all along)
Not listed for the Vuelta either, though I suppose that could change
Kuss is the only top 50 GC guying riding all three Grand Tours
Sand
Footballguy
You just like seeing me suffer!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Cavendish: "I was on the right wheels... Once I kicked, my gears jumped from the 11 to 12. I had to sit down. Then it goes back to the 11, I tried to stand up again, and then back to the 12, and then sit down. There was nothing you could do. I'm bitterly disappointed."
Phillipsen: "He [Cavendish] was really strong. I would also have loved to see him win, I think everybody [would]."
6th, 5th, 2nd
Cav might have three more chances. Stage 11 (tough opener for him), Stage 18 - when GC is probably decided, the other teams will be desperate for a win - and Champs-Élysées.
Phillipsen: "He [Cavendish] was really strong. I would also have loved to see him win, I think everybody [would]."
6th, 5th, 2nd
Cav might have three more chances. Stage 11 (tough opener for him), Stage 18 - when GC is probably decided, the other teams will be desperate for a win - and Champs-Élysées.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Calling it now, he gets it on the Champs-Élysées.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Would be cool - took the 21st at the Giro too
It’s not like they’re gifting him anything either, dude still has an incredible burst…looked great today, if he doesn’t have to sit down, who knows.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Peloton average speed today for the last 20 km (12.43 miles):
58.8 kph (36.54 mph)
58.8 kph (36.54 mph)
cheeseypoof
Footballguy
I agree, especially if Phillipsen has the green jersey wrapped up.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Phillipsen already speaking of Paris yesterday. He still needs to get try to win intermediates and rack up points in the remaining bunch sprints but I think he already has the mentality of protecting his lead.
What to make of the current state of affairs with respect to deviation of line and ASO just flat out refusing to relegate the winner? There's no real consequence to relegating Skjelmose or Van Der Poel, Jasper knows that. Seems like they won't act until we see a major crash or someone in the barriers.
Part of the issue IMO is they need more specificity in the rulebook. If you look at the FIA regulations for F1, there are very clear and specific guidelines overtaking, the racing line, when you must back out and when you are entitled to the space, et al. In cycling the rule says you cannot deviate in such a way that endangers other riders. Well as we've seen, if you are reckless enough that the other rider has to back out or sit up to avoid (WvA, Bini.) If there's no crash then ASO acts like "no harm, no foul." It's not fair play, they need to fix this. Rewrite the rules with greater specificity. Have some freaking backbone enforcing the regulations.
Also, not allowing teams to file a formal protest is ridiculous. Being an ostrich won't resolve the issue.
What to make of the current state of affairs with respect to deviation of line and ASO just flat out refusing to relegate the winner? There's no real consequence to relegating Skjelmose or Van Der Poel, Jasper knows that. Seems like they won't act until we see a major crash or someone in the barriers.
Part of the issue IMO is they need more specificity in the rulebook. If you look at the FIA regulations for F1, there are very clear and specific guidelines overtaking, the racing line, when you must back out and when you are entitled to the space, et al. In cycling the rule says you cannot deviate in such a way that endangers other riders. Well as we've seen, if you are reckless enough that the other rider has to back out or sit up to avoid (WvA, Bini.) If there's no crash then ASO acts like "no harm, no foul." It's not fair play, they need to fix this. Rewrite the rules with greater specificity. Have some freaking backbone enforcing the regulations.
Also, not allowing teams to file a formal protest is ridiculous. Being an ostrich won't resolve the issue.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Longish ride (200 km) with an intermediate sprint and 3 moderate climbs on the back half (one cat 3 followed by two cat 4s.) Not a great stage for the pure sprinters who cannot climb, but perfect for Van Aert, Pederson, MVdP, maybe a wild card like Alaphilippe or Cort.
Already 30 degrees (85+) and expected to exceed 35 (95-100.) Gonna be a scorcher but no GC action until tomorrow.
Already 30 degrees (85+) and expected to exceed 35 (95-100.) Gonna be a scorcher but no GC action until tomorrow.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Why are there 20? Guessing they took out the ITT.
Number of stages per stagetype.
Number of stages per stagetype.
| TYPE | #STAGES | |
|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | |
| Hills, flat finish | 7 | |
| Hills, uphill finish | 1 | |
| Mountains, flat finish | 4 | |
| Mountains, uphill finish | 4 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
There are 1996 vertical meters today. There are 13 stages with more vertical meters.
Today's stage has a profile score of 61. There are 6 stages with a lower profile score.
Today's stage has a profile score of 61. There are 6 stages with a lower profile score.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Competitors sorted by most pro victories this season.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Rider(s) with the most stage wins per edition of Tour de France for last editions.
| YEAR | RIDER(S) | #STAGE WINS |
|---|---|---|
| 2023 | Philipsen | 3 |
| 2022 | Pogačar,van Aert | 3 |
| 2021 | Cavendish | 4 |
| 2020 | Pogačar | 3 |
| 2019 | Ewan | 3 |
| 2018 | Sagan | 3 |
| 2017 | Kittel | 5 |
| 2016 | Cavendish | 4 |
| 2015 | Greipel | 4 |
| 2014 | Nibali, Kittel | 4 |
| 2013 | Kittel | 4 |
| 2012 | Sagan, Greipel, Cavendish | 3 |
| 2011 | Cavendish | 5 |
| 2010 | Cavendish | 5 |
| 2009 | Cavendish | 6 |
| 2008 | Cavendish | 4 |
| 2007 | Bennati, Vinokourov, Rasmussen, Cancellara, Boonen | 2 |
| 2006 | McEwen | 3 |
| 2005 | McEwen | 3 |
| 2004 | Armstrong | 5 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Most leader jerseys in the point classification in Tour de France by competitors.
| # | RIDER | #JERSEYS | SEASONS |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | SAGAN Peter | 130 | 2020, 2019, 2018, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012 |
| 2 | CAVENDISH Mark | 43 | 2021, 2016, 2011, 2009 |
| 3 | VAN AERT Wout | 20 | 2022 |
| 4 | PHILIPSEN Jasper | 4 | 2023 |
| 5 | ALAPHILIPPE Julian | 3 | 2021 |
| 6 | TEUNISSEN Mike | 2 | 2019 |
| 7 | KRISTOFF Alexander | 2 | 2020 |
| 8 | LAFAY Victor | 2 | 2023 |
| 9 | YATES Adam | 1 | 2023 |
| 10 | LAMPAERT Yves | 1 | 2022 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
moderate 13 kph breeze today - as hot or a bit hotter than yesterday
Hottest stages by average temperature.
Hottest stages by average temperature.
| # | STAGE | MAX. TEMP. | TEMPERATURE |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Stage 7 | Mont-de-Marsan - Bordeaux | 35 | 32.1 |
| 2 | Stage 4 | Dax - Nogaro | 25 | 24.7 |
| 3 | Stage 3 | Amorebieta-Etxano - Bayonne | 24 | 23.4 |
| 4 | Stage 1 | Bilbao - Bilbao | 24 | 23.0 |
| 5 | Stage 5 | Pau - Laruns | 24 | 21.7 |
| 6 | Stage 2 | Vitoria-Gasteiz - San Sébastián | 23 | 21.2 |
| 7 | Stage 6 | Tarbes - Cauterets-Cambasque | 25 | 21.1 |
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Van Der Poel and Van Aert at the back of the peloton at the start, no interest in the break apparently.
It's interesting how often we've seen them riding together and chatting several times this week. They are not friends, never have been, but the rivalry in cyclocross (8 world titles between them) and the classicas has gone on for 200+ races now. Maybe they bonded over fans ringing their doorbell at 3 a.m. lol
It's interesting how often we've seen them riding together and chatting several times this week. They are not friends, never have been, but the rivalry in cyclocross (8 world titles between them) and the classicas has gone on for 200+ races now. Maybe they bonded over fans ringing their doorbell at 3 a.m. lol
