*** Official 2024-25 NHL, Playoff talk... Nothing better *** (4 Viewers)

[Gally]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

I completely agree. When I saw them come out and not even have a player past the redline I knew they were going to lose. It just boggles my mind how they play great for 2 periods to get a lead and then decide they have to go in a shell for the third. Just dumb

 

[northern exposure]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

 

[dgreen]

For the Caps - so good to get Protas back. He's a difference maker on both ends of the ice. Leonard looked great last night. Shocked he hasn't gotten one in yet, but he keeps people on their toes. I feel like we're rounding back into form in time for the Canes series...it's going to be a brutal one.

Leonard has the lowest average ice time on the team in the playoffs. I'm not sure why. He seems to create a decent offensive chance on just about every shift. I'd like to see him on the PP and I'm interested in how he might work with Strome and Ovechkin on the top even strength line.

Agree about the next series. CAR worries me, but I think a big part of that is the beat down they put on us late in the season. That was an ugly game and is the primary image I have of them as a team.

 

[Fat Nick]

For the Caps - so good to get Protas back. He's a difference maker on both ends of the ice. Leonard looked great last night. Shocked he hasn't gotten one in yet, but he keeps people on their toes. I feel like we're rounding back into form in time for the Canes series...it's going to be a brutal one.

Leonard has the lowest average ice time on the team in the playoffs. I'm not sure why. He seems to create a decent offensive chance on just about every shift. I'd like to see him on the PP and I'm interested in how he might work with Strome and Ovechkin on the top even strength line.

Agree about the next series. CAR worries me, but I think a big part of that is the beat down they put on us late in the season. That was an ugly game and is the primary image I have of them as a team.

The one negative I see in Leonard right now is that he tries to make THE play every time instead of making A play. He gives up some soft turnovers before we can establish the zone, and he takes some bad shots - all in the spirit of trying to create chances ASAP. I think it's something he'll grow into from both ends. He'll get better about making A play and help the team, and he'll get better about being able to make THE play as his confidence and comfort at the NHL level grows. The skill and attitude are there. I've been very impressed. It's easy to forget that he's got less than 15 games under his belt at this level and isn't old enough to drink a beer legally. He plays with a grit way above that.

 

[Gally]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

 

[northern exposure]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

"Great players get officiated differently". Sorry, I have to say your point is lazy and wrong.
Great hockey players, such as McDavid, carry the puck way more than other players and skate much quicker than most other players. So, carrying the puck more results in more opportunity to draw a penalty. That's just logic. If you have the puck more often, then the opposing players are going to try to get it from you or prevent you from doing something with it. Which can result in more penalty calls.
Skating faster than most other players means if the opposing players are trailing behind you, they are more likely to hook or trip to slow you down. The same holds true if it is an opposing DMan who has to try to skate with him or gets caught flat footed and has to respond.
I have seen McDavid do amazing things when he's skating at full speed. He might not be the fastest straight ahead skater in the NHL, but his edgework is spectacular.

 

[Gally]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

"Great players get officiated differently". Sorry, I have to say your point is lazy and wrong.
Great hockey players, such as McDavid, carry the puck way more than other players and skate much quicker than most other players. So, carrying the puck more results in more opportunity to draw a penalty. That's just logic. If you have the puck more often, then the opposing players are going to try to get it from you or prevent you from doing something with it. Which can result in more penalty calls.
Skating faster than most other players means if the opposing players are trailing behind you, they are more likely to hook or trip to slow you down. The same holds true if it is an opposing DMan who has to try to skate with him or gets caught flat footed and has to respond.
I have seen McDavid do amazing things when he's skating at full speed. He might not be the fastest straight ahead skater in the NHL, but his edgework is spectacular.

I agree with everything said except your first sentence. Great players in every sport (Brady, Jordan, LeBron, Maddox, Gretzky, etc) get officiated differently. It happens. It's not lazy analysis.

 

[The Gator]

LAK/EDM off to a flier

 

[northern exposure]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

"Great players get officiated differently". Sorry, I have to say your point is lazy and wrong.
Great hockey players, such as McDavid, carry the puck way more than other players and skate much quicker than most other players. So, carrying the puck more results in more opportunity to draw a penalty. That's just logic. If you have the puck more often, then the opposing players are going to try to get it from you or prevent you from doing something with it. Which can result in more penalty calls.
Skating faster than most other players means if the opposing players are trailing behind you, they are more likely to hook or trip to slow you down. The same holds true if it is an opposing DMan who has to try to skate with him or gets caught flat footed and has to respond.
I have seen McDavid do amazing things when he's skating at full speed. He might not be the fastest straight ahead skater in the NHL, but his edgework is spectacular.

I agree with everything said except your first sentence. Great players in every sport (Brady, Jordan, LeBron, Maddox, Gretzky, etc) get officiated differently. It happens. It's not lazy analysis.

Kuemper must be a superstar to get that penalty call. He's played amazing in the series, but c'mon.

 

[Gally]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

"Great players get officiated differently". Sorry, I have to say your point is lazy and wrong.
Great hockey players, such as McDavid, carry the puck way more than other players and skate much quicker than most other players. So, carrying the puck more results in more opportunity to draw a penalty. That's just logic. If you have the puck more often, then the opposing players are going to try to get it from you or prevent you from doing something with it. Which can result in more penalty calls.
Skating faster than most other players means if the opposing players are trailing behind you, they are more likely to hook or trip to slow you down. The same holds true if it is an opposing DMan who has to try to skate with him or gets caught flat footed and has to respond.
I have seen McDavid do amazing things when he's skating at full speed. He might not be the fastest straight ahead skater in the NHL, but his edgework is spectacular.

I agree with everything said except your first sentence. Great players in every sport (Brady, Jordan, LeBron, Maddox, Gretzky, etc) get officiated differently. It happens. It's not lazy analysis.

Kuemper must be a superstar to get that penalty call. He's played amazing in the series, but c'mon.

Really? Come on man

 

[northern exposure]

Hiller going into prevent in game 4 (and game 1 and game 3 to some extent) coupled with too short of a bench has really turned this series around. Makes no sense to play a certain way for 50 minutes where you dominate and then go to prevent and let the best player in the league have space to build up speed and take over.

Now Edmonton has taken over with Co fidence and its likely series over. So dumb. Dumb Hiller.

I watched game 4 and they played the entire third without applying any forecheck. It was absolutely brutal to watch and I am glad they lost. Hopefully others won't try it - at least not for the entire GD period. Especially dumb against a team like Edmonton with McJesus ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone.

According to Gally, McDavid only flies around the ice with the puck on a string because he's gooning it up out there.

That is not what I said at all. He is a great player. Great players get officiated differently. That is my entire point.

Then as a side note he is dirtier as a player than my original thoughts about him.

"Great players get officiated differently". Sorry, I have to say your point is lazy and wrong.
Great hockey players, such as McDavid, carry the puck way more than other players and skate much quicker than most other players. So, carrying the puck more results in more opportunity to draw a penalty. That's just logic. If you have the puck more often, then the opposing players are going to try to get it from you or prevent you from doing something with it. Which can result in more penalty calls.
Skating faster than most other players means if the opposing players are trailing behind you, they are more likely to hook or trip to slow you down. The same holds true if it is an opposing DMan who has to try to skate with him or gets caught flat footed and has to respond.
I have seen McDavid do amazing things when he's skating at full speed. He might not be the fastest straight ahead skater in the NHL, but his edgework is spectacular.

I agree with everything said except your first sentence. Great players in every sport (Brady, Jordan, LeBron, Maddox, Gretzky, etc) get officiated differently. It happens. It's not lazy analysis.

Kuemper must be a superstar to get that penalty call. He's played amazing in the series, but c'mon.

Really? Come on man

But,then Anderson doesn't get called for steamrolling Pickard? Come on man, right back at you.

 

[northern exposure]

Bye Bye L.A.
Thanks to the Kings coaching staff for blowing the series. Challenged Kane's tying goal with 7 minutes left and the Oilers beat them in OT. Playing prevent defense by sticking with top 4 D (two of which were returning from injury - Doughty and Edmundson).
Played all 6 D tonight and Clarke and Spence both had goals.
Kuemper had an average game tonight after being all world in games 4 and 5.

Saw video of the Kings celebrating in the dressing room like they won the Cup after winning Game 1 on a fluke goal. Big mistake boys. Connor almost brought them back in Game 1 from down 5-1.

 

[Gally]

Thanks to the Kings coaching staff for blowing the series.

This is it for sure. Prevent defense it games 1, 3, & 4 should have cost them three games but the fluke late goal in 1 allowed them to salvage that disaster. Hiller was the biggest reason the Kings lost.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Proud of my Habs. They put up a good battle against the #1 seed on the East. Future looks bright.

Now I can cheer for whoever is playing the Leafs.

Caveat: I know very little about hockey other than you get a point if you throw the puck in the net.

I'm gonna tell you what, though - I watched those games and Montreal was by far the faster team to my untrained eyes. Washington was more physical and had more seasoned talent, so they won.

I would NOT want to play Montreal in seasons going forward if they can keep those guys together.

 

[northern exposure]

Thanks to the Kings coaching staff for blowing the series.

This is it for sure. Prevent defense it games 1, 3, & 4 should have cost them three games but the fluke late goal in 1 allowed them to salvage that disaster. Hiller was the biggest reason the Kings lost.

Sorry if I got a little testy with you in our exchanges. The reffing was inconsistent and consistently bad throughout the series. Calls were missed for both teams. You have to admit it made no sense that Kuemper got the goalie interference call and Pickard didn't when Anderson smashed into him.
It set me off when you made a comment like McDavid always gets the calls. If you watch the games, nobody gets hooked, held, tripped, interfered with, etc. as much as he does WITHOUT drawing a call. Don't take my word for it, Mark Messier has made this point and so has Kevin Beiksa. Both played in the NHL and have said they can't believe he doesn't draw more calls.

 

[Gally]

Sorry if I got a little testy with you in our exchanges. The reffing was inconsistent and consistently bad throughout the series. Calls were missed for both teams

No worries. I was saying that calls were missed for both teams for sure and that it seemed like they were letting them play. Then they miss the blatant trip late for Kings (in the OT game) and then call a less blatant trip for McDavid. That was what prompted my "superstars are officiated differently" comment.

McDavid does get held a lot and I said he is probably one of the most difficult players to officiate because of his speed and agility. You see things not called and then they call something not nearly as egregious. Just makes it hard as a fan.

 

[Don Quixote]

Connor Hellebuyck is broken.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

Connor Hellebuyck is broken.

Only on the road.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Thanks to the Kings coaching staff for blowing the series.

This is it for sure. Prevent defense it games 1, 3, & 4 should have cost them three games but the fluke late goal in 1 allowed them to salvage that disaster. Hiller was the biggest reason the Kings lost.

Sorry if I got a little testy with you in our exchanges. The reffing was inconsistent and consistently bad throughout the series. Calls were missed for both teams. You have to admit it made no sense that Kuemper got the goalie interference call and Pickard didn't when Anderson smashed into him.
It set me off when you made a comment like McDavid always gets the calls. If you watch the games, nobody gets hooked, held, tripped, interfered with, etc. as much as he does WITHOUT drawing a call. Don't take my word for it, Mark Messier has made this point and so has Kevin Beiksa. Both played in the NHL and have said they can't believe he doesn't draw more calls.

I don't think Edmonton has ever lost a game that wasn't influenced by the refs. Just go to the Oilers HF forum if you want proof of this.

 

[Don Quixote]

Connor Hellebuyck is broken.

Only on the road.

 

[Atomic Punk]

The Jets looked lost and Helly’s play is not helping any.

 

[Don Quixote]

HFS

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Thought the jets were dead for sure when they let the blues clear with like 34 secs left. Unreal

 

[GregR]

Holy crap.

 

[jamny]

 

[zamboni]

Insane - don’t remember in all my years of watching hockey I’ve seen that in a game 7

 

[GregR]

I have watched like 4 minutes of this game, and saw all 3 of the Jets goals, and only their goals.

Anyone from St. Louis want to pay me to turn it again?

 

[northern exposure]

I love playoff hockey! Two amazing game 7s that went to OT on back to back nights!

 

[Atomic Punk]

OMG …. Can’t wait to go to game 2 in the next round! Energy in the city will be off the charts.

 

[Skipdog77]

It's always good to see Binnington lose. Nice job, Winnipeg!

 

[zamboni]

It's always good to see Binnington lose. Nice job, Winnipeg!

It was surreal hearing all those Canadian fans pulling for Hellebuyck while deriding Binnington.

 

[rockaction]

That was some sort of two and a half minutes in the third. I couldn't believe they scored with that little time remaining. I thought the game was over twice when they cleared and then were tying the puck up with thirteen seconds left. That goal was one of the most surprising things I've seen in hockey, and I used to watch religiously. On my, what a tip-in! Upper top.

Surprised they won. Good for Winnipeg. Excited to see it and the Jets/Stars series should be a heck of a series.

 

[irish eyes]

Where does blues loss land among biggest choke jobs in NHL history?

 

[Todem]

Panthers in 6.

 

[northern exposure]

Rob Blake out as GM with the Kings. Does this give them the option to punt Hiller as HC and say the new GM wants to bring in "his guy"?

 

[northern exposure]

To be filed under the playoffs are a different animal than the regular season.
2 of the 3 Vezina Trophy finalists are out of the playoffs after 1 round (and the remaining one -Hellebuyck looked shaky).
All the finalists for the Ted Lindsay award and the Norris trophy are done after Round 1.

 

[Gally]

2 of the 3 Vezina Trophy finalists are out of the playoffs after 1 round (and the remaining one -Hellebuyck looked shaky).

I think that lends itself to saying you need a team to win the Cup. I know the Kings didn't lose because of Kuemper and were in games 2-6 only because of him. He was outstanding in the playoffs.

 

[irish eyes]

Did anyone watch draft lottery? I guess I'm slow but I had no clue what was going on when they were drawing.

 

[northern exposure]

2 of the 3 Vezina Trophy finalists are out of the playoffs after 1 round (and the remaining one -Hellebuyck looked shaky).

I think that lends itself to saying you need a team to win the Cup. I know the Kings didn't lose because of Kuemper and were in games 2-6 only because of him. He was outstanding in the playoffs.

The Oilers got 5 goals on Kuemper in 3 out of the 6 games. I think I heard a stat that he only gave up 5 goals in 3 games all season. He was outstanding in Games 4 and 5, but looked average in games 1 and 6.

 

[kupcho1]

Fish sticks win the #1 pick in the draft.

 

[Gally]

He was outstanding in Games 4 and 5, but looked average in games 1 and 6.

He was outstanding in game 1 and 6 for most of the game. In game 1 he was great until prevent defense let McDavid take over skating around everyone.

In game 6 it should have been 10 goals. Oilers dominated. Kuemper was great but the team hung him out to dry.

 

[The Gator]

Time to pull King Boob

 

[zamboni]

Time to pull King Boob

Turned back from commercial and saw Stolarz come out - thought it was a first where a goalie winning by 3 got pulled. Didn’t see at first he got hurt - hope he’s ok.

 

[The Gator]

Time to pull King Boob

Turned back from commercial and saw Stolarz come out - thought it was a first where a goalie winning by 3 got pulled. Didn’t see at first he got hurt - hope he’s ok.

Concussion protocol

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Panthers cut a 4-1 lead down to 4-3 pretty quick

 

[Capella]

Panthers cut a 4-1 lead down to 4-3 pretty quick

I guess it helps when you take the starting goalie out with an elbow to the head.

Panthers are an incredible team and also one of the dirtiest groups I’ve ever seen. Ridiculous.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Panthers cut a 4-1 lead down to 4-3 pretty quick

I guess it helps when you take the starting goalie out with an elbow to the head.

Panthers are an incredible team and also one of the dirtiest groups I’ve ever seen. Ridiculous.

They learned from the best
I was there Season 1 for the Lightning when they played in Expo at the fairgrounds in Tampa
I watched that team walk around lost for many years, they got much better when they started dishing it more than they took it
I would never describe the Lightning as dirty but they played hard especially in more recent years when they won B2B, 3 Finals in a row
Along the way they dismissed the Panthers a couple times in the Playoffs
One year it made the Panthers overturn a lot of their roster that had just finished as the top seed

You can hate on the Panthers, i was born in Miami so I tend to enjoy either team and the last 5-6 seasons here in Florida have absolutely expanded both fan bases
The best ticket in town down here and for the foreseeable future is the Florida Panthers, if nothing else you get to watch a lot of high level hockey games as a season ticket holder
I've been to several home games for the Lightning in the last 5-6 years, electric inside that building, almost feels like a night club in the lower level at times.
Panthers games are more "family" friendly and you just don't quite get the same electricity in that building like you do up in Tampa
That machine that creates lightning up in the rafters, the first time I saw that in person was with my son, amazing experience

Back to you griping about the Panthers and the word dirty...they did trade for Marchand, what do you expect?
I don't think the hit was dirty or any more dirty than other NHL in game stuff.
TB-TB-TB-FL-FL, that's what you get from the East the last 5 years, Panthers hoping to add another year for the State of Florida
Panthers are a product of the Lightning being so good , deal with it

 

[falguy]

Did anyone watch draft lottery? I guess I'm slow but I had no clue what was going on when they were drawing.

I watched right from the beginning where they tried to explain the process. Then they pulled one ball and suddenly some teams were eliminated and others' odds increased. Had no clue what was going on. Each ball was not tied to a team, so what was it? No way it had to be this convoluted.

 

[falguy]

I think that puck to the mask earlier in the game may have contributed to the issue with Stolarz as well. The Bennett elbow really didn't look all that bad. Goalies get run often and they don't come away with a concussion. Frankly shouldn't we be blaming the spotter a bit here as well? I mean he had the puck off the mask earlier in the game, later is down due to the hit by Bennett but he stayed in for, what, 30 minutes, before coming out.

 

[Sammy3469]

Panthers cut a 4-1 lead down to 4-3 pretty quick

I guess it helps when you take the starting goalie out with an elbow to the head.

Panthers are an incredible team and also one of the dirtiest groups I’ve ever seen. Ridiculous.

They learned from the best
I was there Season 1 for the Lightning when they played in Expo at the fairgrounds in Tampa
I watched that team walk around lost for many years, they got much better when they started dishing it more than they took it
I would never describe the Lightning as dirty but they played hard especially in more recent years when they won B2B, 3 Finals in a row
Along the way they dismissed the Panthers a couple times in the Playoffs
One year it made the Panthers overturn a lot of their roster that had just finished as the top seed

You can hate on the Panthers, i was born in Miami so I tend to enjoy either team and the last 5-6 seasons here in Florida have absolutely expanded both fan bases
The best ticket in town down here and for the foreseeable future is the Florida Panthers, if nothing else you get to watch a lot of high level hockey games as a season ticket holder
I've been to several home games for the Lightning in the last 5-6 years, electric inside that building, almost feels like a night club in the lower level at times.
Panthers games are more "family" friendly and you just don't quite get the same electricity in that building like you do up in Tampa
That machine that creates lightning up in the rafters, the first time I saw that in person was with my son, amazing experience

Back to you griping about the Panthers and the word dirty...they did trade for Marchand, what do you expect?
I don't think the hit was dirty or any more dirty than other NHL in game stuff.
TB-TB-TB-FL-FL, that's what you get from the East the last 5 years, Panthers hoping to add another year for the State of Florida
Panthers are a product of the Lightning being so good , deal with it

I'm sorry, but it was 100% dirty. You don't go through the crease like that. Guys know which part of their equipment cause pain and he was well aware he was putting his elbow into the side of Stolarz's head, plus guys know not to touch the goalie. I'm surprised their wasn't a fight after it and if he isn't suspended Game 2 is going to be exceedingly chippy.