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I’m a big proponent of posting every score in a stroke play round. This includes the good, the bad, and the ugly. Also, with the new system where it adjusts daily, posting current play seems more than fair.
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TLEF316
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Yeah, IMO. You post everything. Its never happened to me, but if I'm ever in a situation where someone is questioning my index, I want to be able say its 100% legit with 100% certainty. And at the end of the day, posting 1 or 2 or even 5 "casual" rounds or post swing change rounds still leaves more than 15 "regular rounds" to calculate a proper index. (if you feel the most recent rounds dont properly reflect your true ability)
Zow
Footballguy
For sure.
belljr
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I was 90% sure I was posting but was looking for other thoughts. Part of it was I took a red-eye at 11pm probably had 2 hours sleeps, went to work then played in the late afternoon, was just exhausted
Dr_Zaius
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Curious if anybody else in here has had an issue with blocking short irons to the right?
I'm a pretty meh golfer (my 18 hole hcp bounces between 19-23), probably because I rarely get out outside of my 9 hole league, but typically I'm pretty decent in the 100-140 yd range. The last few weeks out of nowhere about 60% of my short irons I don't get the face square and end up 10-15 yards short and 10-15 yards right. No fade or anything, just loss of distance and a straight shot that is off target. The other 40% I hit my normal shot with a slight draw. I can't for the life of me figure out the difference between my "good" swings and the bad ones, but repeatedly missing greens is just killing my score, especially since my short game is not good. One of the better golfers in the league suggested I needed to get my wrists out more front of my swing, but that swing thought didn't really seem to do much to improve the situation. My driver has been wilder than usual during this same period, so it's probably all related, but the irons are the much more pressing concern.
I'm a pretty meh golfer (my 18 hole hcp bounces between 19-23), probably because I rarely get out outside of my 9 hole league, but typically I'm pretty decent in the 100-140 yd range. The last few weeks out of nowhere about 60% of my short irons I don't get the face square and end up 10-15 yards short and 10-15 yards right. No fade or anything, just loss of distance and a straight shot that is off target. The other 40% I hit my normal shot with a slight draw. I can't for the life of me figure out the difference between my "good" swings and the bad ones, but repeatedly missing greens is just killing my score, especially since my short game is not good. One of the better golfers in the league suggested I needed to get my wrists out more front of my swing, but that swing thought didn't really seem to do much to improve the situation. My driver has been wilder than usual during this same period, so it's probably all related, but the irons are the much more pressing concern.
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Footballguy
I had this issue, though it was more with my longer irons (for a reason that'll evident in a moment), prior to my last fitting. My ball would be struck fine with my iron but flutter short and to the right like 15-20 yards. Made no sense... until I went to a fitting and the fitter tested me initially on my irons and explained that the clubs I was hitting were generating far too much spin so with my natural cut swing there were far too many rotations on the ball during flight to stay straight. In other words, the clubs I was playing with were horribly fit to my swing and caused the miss (as opposed to some swing or alignment flaw).
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Dr_Zaius
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Interesting. I've got off the shelf irons I've been playing with for the last 12 or so years. I swore to myself I would get fitted over this past winter but procrastinated. I still intend to do so this year. I should really make an appointment now, as the place around here considered the best you need to schedule about a month out.
CGRdrJoe
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I had the worst putting round of my life yesterday, 41 total putts with 6 3 putts 
I honestly don't know why I couldn't adjust and hit my putts firmer but between soft greens and semi long up hill putts I was an absolute **** show. The worst part is found 78% of the fairways and was 67% GIR, it should have been a low round and not an 88, I'm going to need to mentally recover before my next round this weekend. **** golf
I honestly don't know why I couldn't adjust and hit my putts firmer but between soft greens and semi long up hill putts I was an absolute **** show. The worst part is found 78% of the fairways and was 67% GIR, it should have been a low round and not an 88, I'm going to need to mentally recover before my next round this weekend. **** golf
Zow
Footballguy
We've all been there. Consider it just a fluke and somewhat of an offshoot to what I assume was a good ball striking round but while you hit greens your proximity to the hole was 25+ feet opening the door to a high putting number round.I had the worst putting round of my life yesterday, 41 total putts with 6 3 putts
Judge Smails
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I'd look at a few things. If you are constantly missing right then obviously face is open to target at impact. Could be just getting stuck and not rotating your belt buckle/torso to the target (or too late). Happens to me when I have a lot of tension. If you're missing short it can only be club speed or off center hits. This would happen if you know you're stuck and then try to flip at impact to save it. I doubt your club speed has changed much. Put some Dr. Scholl's foot spray on your clubface and go hit some short irons. See where you are striking it. My bet is that you have a lot of heel or toe hits.
Remove all tension, especially in arms or wrists.
CGRdrJoe
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yeah, although only one of them was over 25+ away. The ****ed thing is that I just played this course Saturday and had a good round but 3 straight holes with a 3 putt really shook me for the round. I'm not sure if it was playing avx balls vice pro v1x or if I was just too damn sober. Either way I plan to go today and tomorrow to hit putts at the local course to remind myself that I'm a circle of trust kind of player.We've all been there. Consider it just a fluke and somewhat of an offshoot to what I assume was a good ball striking round but while you hit greens your proximity to the hole was 25+ feet opening the door to a high putting number round.I had the worst putting round of my life yesterday, 41 total putts with 6 3 putts
The Gator
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Footballguy
The man has a point that is no laughing matter.
My club championship starts tomorrow. I plan on being >.08% BAC by the time I tee off.
The Gator
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Went out the range and hit another couple buckets of balls.
I like to setup right in the middle of teh range so i can tell how bad my slicing/hooking are. They were quite a bit better today, some made there way out of the range, but not many and a lot fewer than last time. 5W is still my best club, almost hit it as far as the driver I use (borrow it, don't have one yet).
Then went and putted for 30-40minutes. Used three balls for a practice routine so i know what @CGRdrJoe feels when he hits three times at the same hole.
I like to setup right in the middle of teh range so i can tell how bad my slicing/hooking are. They were quite a bit better today, some made there way out of the range, but not many and a lot fewer than last time. 5W is still my best club, almost hit it as far as the driver I use (borrow it, don't have one yet).
Then went and putted for 30-40minutes. Used three balls for a practice routine so i know what @CGRdrJoe feels when he hits three times at the same hole.
CGRdrJoe
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Dr_Zaius
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Speaking of three putts, I did the thing this past week that's even more fun than a standard three putt - two chips (because you fluff the first one) followed by a three putt. Nothing like missing the green by 10 feet and somehow carding a triple to boost your confidence.
Zow
Footballguy
Enough with this negative talk (I tee off in a couple of hours here).
Zow
Footballguy
I believe I can accomplish both of those goals!
Judge Smails
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Instinctive
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The Gator
Footballguy
Went out and played a quick 9. Did use one mulligan on 2
I might start only playing 9 until I build my swing stamina/technique. Putted out of my mind, 2 of those one puts were 10+ and that birdie put was about 7-8 feet. that last three putt i left the ball sitting on the lip.
Putting yesterday really helped
I might start only playing 9 until I build my swing stamina/technique. Putted out of my mind, 2 of those one puts were 10+ and that birdie put was about 7-8 feet. that last three putt i left the ball sitting on the lip.
Putting yesterday really helped
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84 for me today. Lost it in the middle of the round. 7 shots back in my flight, gonna need a great round tomorrow
Instinctive
Footballguy
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EIGHTY-THREE TODAY. Best round ever. And multiple shots to easily get back too.
Missed a 5-foot birdie put on a 179-yard par 3.
Took too much sand on a greenside bunker and had to two putt (put the ball like 15 feet short of the pin)
Didn't open the club enough on a greenside bunker and had to two putt (put the ball to like 20 ft past pin)
One in the water off the tee (kept it to a bogey though!)
One OB off the tee (short par 5 too, kept this to a bogey but that means it coulda been a birdieeeeeee)
Four putt the 18th green
(greens were in good shape but a little inconsistent on speed, which was frustrating throughout the round but this hole was BLAZING fast and the only one it had a truly meaningful impact) (my only double).
Pulled a couple drives that made me have to try and go up and down from near green instead of having an easy approach GIR (some I got, some became bogeys).
And had a par 5 with the best drive I've hit in a loooooong time - 265 down the fairway - I found a speed slot and it must have just rollllllled. Only 190 in, which is the top end of my 3h, and got a little too excited and tried to smoke it. Didn't hit it great, ended up 150 yards worm-burning and my eagle dreams became a par.
All week I was hitting on the mat/net setup I put in our courtyard, taking video and looking at it every 4 shots and adjusting. Felt pretty darn good going into this morning thinking "short backswing, nice and easy, don't kill it." Everything just worked. I've even started smiling during the swing a bit, just to loosen things up instead of being so tight and mechanical.
Missed a 5-foot birdie put on a 179-yard par 3.
Took too much sand on a greenside bunker and had to two putt (put the ball like 15 feet short of the pin)
Didn't open the club enough on a greenside bunker and had to two putt (put the ball to like 20 ft past pin)
One in the water off the tee (kept it to a bogey though!)
One OB off the tee (short par 5 too, kept this to a bogey but that means it coulda been a birdieeeeeee)
Four putt the 18th green
(greens were in good shape but a little inconsistent on speed, which was frustrating throughout the round but this hole was BLAZING fast and the only one it had a truly meaningful impact) (my only double). Pulled a couple drives that made me have to try and go up and down from near green instead of having an easy approach GIR (some I got, some became bogeys).
And had a par 5 with the best drive I've hit in a loooooong time - 265 down the fairway - I found a speed slot and it must have just rollllllled. Only 190 in, which is the top end of my 3h, and got a little too excited and tried to smoke it. Didn't hit it great, ended up 150 yards worm-burning and my eagle dreams became a par.
All week I was hitting on the mat/net setup I put in our courtyard, taking video and looking at it every 4 shots and adjusting. Felt pretty darn good going into this morning thinking "short backswing, nice and easy, don't kill it." Everything just worked. I've even started smiling during the swing a bit, just to loosen things up instead of being so tight and mechanical.
Instinctive
Footballguy
You can do it!
Zow
Footballguy
Well you beat me by one.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Well, play super loose tomorrow and let it ripWell you beat me by one.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Why is distance control so hard with wedges? One approach shot goes 20 feet past the hole, the next you feel like you've made the same strike but at 10% less - and you're 20 feet short?
I'd be scoring pretty well of not for this stuff blowing me up.
I'd be scoring pretty well of not for this stuff blowing me up.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
This is a part I am actually pretty good at generally. A couple principles:
1. I plan out the approach shot lot more to avoid being in the like 25-45 yard range because I hate those shots
2. I have the exact same 50% swing with every wedge and short iron, and know how much farther each one carries + rolls
3. I have an absolutely money 58 yard 54 degree 75% swing that I would love to put the ball to 55-60 yards away if i can't go for the green.
One swing, just change the club, much easier to manage.
Judge Smails
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Same for me. I’m really good at saying my lob wedge goes 75 yards. I need to hit this 60 yards. It’s 80%. Swing accordingly. Sort of like a clock system but just feel. Or I’ll grip down if I have a tweener. To be clear when you say 20 feet you’re talking less than 7 yards either way. Unless you’re a single digit handicapper that’s acceptable.
Andy Dufresne
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It's the 40 foot variance from shot to shot that bugs me.
Another thing I've realized/come to grips with is that fatigue really seems to set in over the last 6-ish holes. I have to remember to club up on my second shots to not come up short so often.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I noticed that a lot yesterday riding instead of walking. Especially when it's 100+ out for half the round.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Fatigue is real. Especially when it's hot. Also need to make sure you have energy and eat something during the round.
James Bond
Footballguy
And water, plenty of water at that heat.
Zow
Footballguy
80. Ob ball got me again.Well, play super loose tomorrow and let it ripWell you beat me by one.
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Footballguy
I finished with 78, clawing back for 2nd net in my flight.80. Ob ball got me again.Well, play super loose tomorrow and let it ripWell you beat me by one.
Heading to Vegas this week and playing Bali Hai, Wolf Creek and Reflection Bay, should be fun…..
Zow
Footballguy
Nice. I’ve played all of them. Enjoy!I finished with 78, clawing back for 2nd net in my flight.80. Ob ball got me again.Well, play super loose tomorrow and let it ripWell you beat me by one.
Heading to Vegas this week and playing Bali Hai, Wolf Creek and Reflection Bay, should be fun…..
The Gator
Footballguy
Shot a 120 on a new course for me today.
Mixed in a birdie on a 140y par 3, and dropped a 25ft put on 18 for bogey so all over the place. Way more consistent overall, just need to tighten up the midrange game. There were some chunky shots in there i could eliminate and save easy shots.
Mixed in a birdie on a 140y par 3, and dropped a 25ft put on 18 for bogey so all over the place. Way more consistent overall, just need to tighten up the midrange game. There were some chunky shots in there i could eliminate and save easy shots.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Had an extremely up and down day. My best part of the game, chipping, totally deserted me.
I had a six hole stretch of Birdie-Triple-Birdie-Triple-Birdie-Triple.
Such high highs, such low lows.
4 par 3s: Triple, Triple, Birdie, and Double. Absolutely killed me. Probably hit 40 irons all day and 5 were bad, 3 were par 3 tee shots.
I had a six hole stretch of Birdie-Triple-Birdie-Triple-Birdie-Triple.
Such high highs, such low lows.
4 par 3s: Triple, Triple, Birdie, and Double. Absolutely killed me. Probably hit 40 irons all day and 5 were bad, 3 were par 3 tee shots.
CGRdrJoe
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CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
ok, so I saw a video with Tommy Fleetwood going over his swing and I used it last night off the tee and the results were fan f'n tastic. So Tommy explained it in a way that finally clicked for me, basically normal take away with good hip rotation and then from there the transition is the left butt cheek feeling like it's moving back to where the right butt cheek is while the arms drop and then once that happens fire through the turn. The result was the longest drive of my life, it flew 260 and rolled out to about 288 without feeling like I was swinging out of my shoes.
Prior to yesterday I would get in the loaded and position and when I transferred my weight it was more on a straight plane with my hips firing out towards the target which was leaving me with weak drives and being a bit more wristy. I need to hit the range tonight to try it with my irons to slowly get more comfortable with this but damn do I love how easy it is now to generate more power.
Prior to yesterday I would get in the loaded and position and when I transferred my weight it was more on a straight plane with my hips firing out towards the target which was leaving me with weak drives and being a bit more wristy. I need to hit the range tonight to try it with my irons to slowly get more comfortable with this but damn do I love how easy it is now to generate more power.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Another great day
12 over. 2 tee shots OB that are easy strokes to get back. Two double chips, and not nearly enough up and downs.
Only one duffed iron.
Feels like I need a couple things to really break through to the next level:
1. Consistently hit the driver more than 205.
2. Totally eliminate the double chips
3. Better getting up and down from normal 1-15 yards off the green approaches. Too many 2-putts after chips that should be closer.
4. Learn how to hit a fairway wood.
The driver feels like a huge unlock at this point. I lose the most strokes there. Not just from a yank left or a bad drive that only goes 100 but the chain reaction where a 200-yd drive leaves me 200 in. I have clubs for 180, but not really for 200.
So either better drives or actually learning fairway woods needs to happen.
.yesterday, the driver was working. Averaged like 235 and it made a huge difference. Today was a better score but much more scrambling. If I could put both together I'd be in the 70s.
12 over. 2 tee shots OB that are easy strokes to get back. Two double chips, and not nearly enough up and downs.
Only one duffed iron.
Feels like I need a couple things to really break through to the next level:
1. Consistently hit the driver more than 205.
2. Totally eliminate the double chips
3. Better getting up and down from normal 1-15 yards off the green approaches. Too many 2-putts after chips that should be closer.
4. Learn how to hit a fairway wood.
The driver feels like a huge unlock at this point. I lose the most strokes there. Not just from a yank left or a bad drive that only goes 100 but the chain reaction where a 200-yd drive leaves me 200 in. I have clubs for 180, but not really for 200.
So either better drives or actually learning fairway woods needs to happen.
.yesterday, the driver was working. Averaged like 235 and it made a huge difference. Today was a better score but much more scrambling. If I could put both together I'd be in the 70s.
Mookie
Footballguy
Nice. When I don't make a full turn, I sway, which leads to a weak miss right. It's gotten to the point where I can instantly recognize it and fix it on course, leading to me coming over the top and hitting big pull/hooks. Such a fun game!
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