Official 2025 Professional Golf thread - Scottie setting records again...and he debuted on tour as a high schooler btw (1 Viewer)

[The Gator]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

 

[gump]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

 

[Zow]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

He complied with the rules.

To me, the rules are hard enough as written and usually screw us so I actually enjoy seeing the little favorable loopholes/advantages where and when available.

 

[Zow]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

 

[James Bond]

It's well within the rules. If a sprinkler head interferes with lie stance or swing, you are entitled to free relief. Drop within one club length no closer to the hole. If that spot also has interference you get the same rule and can drop again. Heck, you can even drop into a no play zone or ground under repair and get relief. I was surprised that he didn't know that he could take advantage of that rule. It's a common situation.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

It's well within the rules. If a sprinkler head interferes with lie stance or swing, you are entitled to free relief. Drop within one club length no closer to the hole. If that spot also has interference you get the same rule and can drop again. Heck, you can even drop into a no play zone or ground under repair and get relief. I was surprised that he didn't know that he could take advantage of that rule. It's a common situation.

he did know the rule :shuked: Every player asks for a rule official no matter how well known a rule is.
or are you surprised Gator doesn’t know the rule because let’s face it, getting free relief when you’re already on your 6th shot on a par 4 isn’t gonna really help your handicap

 

[Zow]

It's well within the rules. If a sprinkler head interferes with lie stance or swing, you are entitled to free relief. Drop within one club length no closer to the hole. If that spot also has interference you get the same rule and can drop again. Heck, you can even drop into a no play zone or ground under repair and get relief. I was surprised that he didn't know that he could take advantage of that rule. It's a common situation.

he did know the rule :shuked: Every player asks for a rule official no matter how well known a rule is.
or are you surprised Gator doesn’t know the rule because let’s face it, getting free relief when you’re already on your 6th shot on a par 4 isn’t gonna really help your handicap

Yep. Ever since that fan called in for the illegal Tiger drop like ten years ago I've noticed all the players just pretty much doing anything with an official talking them through it. Smart.

 

[The Gator]

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It's well within the rules. If a sprinkler head interferes with lie stance or swing, you are entitled to free relief. Drop within one club length no closer to the hole. If that spot also has interference you get the same rule and can drop again. Heck, you can even drop into a no play zone or ground under repair and get relief. I was surprised that he didn't know that he could take advantage of that rule. It's a common situation.

he did know the rule :shuked: Every player asks for a rule official no matter how well known a rule is.
or are you surprised Gator doesn’t know the rule because let’s face it, getting free relief when you’re already on your 6th shot on a par 4 isn’t gonna really help your handicap

Ha! If I’m not on the green in 5 I’m walking to the next hole and putting down a 6 with a 1 putt.

 

[gump]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

 

[The Gator]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

Just make it so the initial drop must be playable and you can’t purposefully drop in another hazard.

 

[Instinctive]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

Starts to get very subjective doesn't it?

 

[Mookie]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

That's how it works in most scrambles I've played in, but not in tournament play. Spaun was well within the rules to drop where he did.

 

[The Gator]

Getting fitted for a driver, 3W, 5W tomorrow


Going to ask for +3” shafts so i can get extra relief when i land on a sprinkler

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Getting fitted for a driver, 3W, 5W tomorrow


Going to ask for +3” shafts so i can get extra relief when i land on a sprinkler

Have them play around with this a bit. I think for a lot of people the better config is 1, 5, 7. Often the 3 & 5 aren't that far off in distance and the higher launch of the 5 wood can be beneficial.

And 7 woods just rule.

 

[Instinctive]

Getting fitted for a driver, 3W, 5W tomorrow


Going to ask for +3” shafts so i can get extra relief when i land on a sprinkler

Lotta guys could use +3" shafts I imagine

 

[The Gator]

Getting fitted for a driver, 3W, 5W tomorrow


Going to ask for +3” shafts so i can get extra relief when i land on a sprinkler

Have them play around with this a bit. I think for a lot of people the better config is 1, 5, 7. Often the 3 & 5 aren't that far off in distance and the higher launch of the 5 wood can be beneficial.

And 7 woods just rule.

Thanks for the advice, i've actually been reading up on the 7s

Would it matter on my gapping between clubs or is the 7 potentially that good and versatile?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Getting fitted for a driver, 3W, 5W tomorrow


Going to ask for +3” shafts so i can get extra relief when i land on a sprinkler

Have them play around with this a bit. I think for a lot of people the better config is 1, 5, 7. Often the 3 & 5 aren't that far off in distance and the higher launch of the 5 wood can be beneficial.

And 7 woods just rule.

Thanks for the advice, i've actually been reading up on the 7s

Would it matter on my gapping between clubs or is the 7 potentially that good and versatile?

They'll be able to tell you more but for where I end up on the course the 7 gets used quite often. It's really useful for the longer (to me) par 3s.

I actually hit my 3 wood well so I go 1, 3, 7.

 

[WDIK2]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

Use the rules to your advantage. You can use those same rules if you know them.

A couple years ago Spieth was near a fence and said he was planning to hit that shot left-handed (which he does very well since he is left-handed but plays golf right-handed) and got relief because his left-handed stance put him on the cart path. After relief he hit the shot right-handed.

Link

 

[The Gator]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

Use the rules to your advantage. You can use those same rules if you know them.

Either last year or the year before, Spieth was near a fence and said he was planning to hit that shot left-handed (which he does very since he is left-handed) and got relief because his left-handed stance put him on the cart path. After relief he hit is shot right-handed.

FTR, I'm not blaming/questioning Spaun, but the rule itself of allowing a drop into another unplayable area.

 

[Zow]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

Use the rules to your advantage. You can use those same rules if you know them.

A couple years ago Spieth was near a fence and said he was planning to hit that shot left-handed (which he does very well since he is left-handed but plays golf right-handed) and got relief because his left-handed stance put him on the cart path. After relief he hit the shot right-handed.

Link

Mickelson has a crazy one from the bushes (I think in the masters) bc with his awkward stance he happened to stand on some small sprinkler. He even said, “I know how bad this looks but this is truly how I’d hit this shot.”

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

you can get relief from a sprinkler that takes you from the fringe to onto the putting surface as long as you are no closer to hole. They aren’t changing this rule just like they aren’t going to grant relief from divots

 

[The Gator]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

you can get relief from a sprinkler that takes you from the fringe to onto the putting surface as long as you are no closer to hole. They aren’t changing this rule just like they aren’t going to grant relief from divots

What about the first drop where it’s ok to deliberately drop into a second unplayable area? That’s the part that seems very lame to my n00b ***

 

[Zow]

Thought's on JJ's double drop yesterday?

His ball landed near a sprinkler head in the rough, then he deliberately dropped it near another sprinkler head to get another club length. On his second drop he was able to drop in the fairway and get out of the rough.

I heard an official was walking him thru it? If so IMO seems like he knew there was a rule he could use in his favor, and executed.

I believe there was, I'm still learning all the OFFICIAL rules so thought I'd ask.

It's just odd that you can deliberately drop into another hazard imo.

And then into the fairway...very odd...rule probably needs reviewing.

They reviewed this not all that long ago I believe. That was on the heels of a weird situation where Pat Perez was intentionally dropping brand new Pro Vs down a drain to comply with the old rules.

Seems like a logical 'fix' is you can't change your general lie with the drop like that....from rough to fairway, etc. Heck in some cases this way you can then drop from a tight fairway lie to a fluffy 1st cut lie if its easier for that particular shot.

you can get relief from a sprinkler that takes you from the fringe to onto the putting surface as long as you are no closer to hole. They aren’t changing this rule just like they aren’t going to grant relief from divots

What about the first drop where it’s ok to deliberately drop into a second unplayable area? That’s the part that seems very lame to my n00b ***

You're otherwise allowed to drop into an area of choice within the club length permitted. Why should this be different? Or, more importantly, WHY DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS GAME HARDER??!!

(Yes, that's me screaming in all caps)

 

[Phil Elliott]

Scottie's Masters menu released:

https://x.com/themasters/status/1902374856252879324?s=46&t=sB97txzPHo78S6e754HUZQ

Looks good.

 

[Zow]

Scottie's Masters menu released:

https://x.com/themasters/status/1902374856252879324?s=46&t=sB97txzPHo78S6e754HUZQ

Looks good.

Good ****. I'd get both the steak and fish.

 

[WDIK2]

they aren’t going to grant relief from divots

I would like to see them change this for balls in the fairway. Wouldn't need to waste time getting a rules official. Just your playing partner coming over and saying, "yes, that's in a divot."

 

[Zow]

they aren’t going to grant relief from divots

I would like to see them change this for balls in the fairway. Wouldn't need to waste time getting a rules official. Just your playing partner coming over and saying, "yes, that's in a divot."

I usually do this in any sort of friendly or match play situation and proffer a free drop.

But, yeah, dumb rule in a medal play tournament.

 

[The Gator]

we've had a bit of rain out this way, so ended up with this lie on a hole.

So I took a drop onto the rake, unplayable, so too another drop onto the rake, unplayable. Then i was able to drop on the grass.

 

[Zow]

we've had a bit of rain out this way, so ended up with this lie on a hole.

So I took a drop onto the rake, unplayable, so too another drop onto the rake, unplayable. Then i was able to drop on the grass.

That should be circled in white spray paint.

 

[gump]

Fantastic day at the Valspar yesterday with my 7 yo son and his best friend...up close and personal with so many great players.
Copperhead won today...with the wind, and the tees were back at the tips. That'll ease up.
We were there for 10 hours, so got some great early time and late post-rain time with a light crowd.

• JT tossed my son a ball...his favorite player...that'll be on his mantle for a while.
• I called Speith scrawny, unhealthy here in '19 when his game started to struggle...he's noticeably ripped, larger now. Physically ready to make a run.
• Clanton is already a celebrity (at least in FL)
• Xander was grinding on the range for 2 hours post-round
• Knapp's swing up close is poetry in motion
• Hovland is violent thru the ball
• Followed Potgeiter for several holes...what a sound the ball makes off his club, and he's more muscular than I thought
• Another guy who stood out in person was Nicolai Hojgaard...

 

[gump]

 

[Dan Lambskin]

What a gag job by JT

 

[gump]

What a gag job by JT

Fire the Caddie immediately. Hitting Driver on 16 is idiotic in general, but especially for a player who struggles hitting fairways under presser. Victor hit a 4-iron. Can’t let your player make that decision. It wasn’t a bad swing.

 

[WDIK2]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

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I DVRed but didn't watch all of the matches this season. I will tune in next season.

PP and S. I don't think the launch monitor tech being used is the best. These guys are pretty dialed in with their driving range yardages, which is pretty much what this is. A lot of head shaking and puzzled looks on shots that usually went long.

 

[kcahnabru]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

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I DVRed but didn't watch all of the matches this season. I will tune in next season.

P and S. I don't think the launch monitor tech being used is the best. These guys are pretty dialed in with their driving range yardages, which is pretty much what this is. A lot of head shaking and puzzled looks on shots that usually went long.

Big fan and yeh, that putt was money. especially after ATL threw the hammer

 

[WDIK2]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

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I DVRed but didn't watch all of the matches this season. I will tune in next season.

P and S. I don't think the launch monitor tech being used is the best. These guys are pretty dialed in with their driving range yardages, which is pretty much what this is. A lot of head shaking and puzzled looks on shots that usually went long.

Big fan and yeh, that putt was money. especially after NY threw the hammer

Atlanta threw the hammer on that hole making it worth 2 when NY accepted.

 

[kcahnabru]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

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I DVRed but didn't watch all of the matches this season. I will tune in next season.

P and S. I don't think the launch monitor tech being used is the best. These guys are pretty dialed in with their driving range yardages, which is pretty much what this is. A lot of head shaking and puzzled looks on shots that usually went long.

Big fan and yeh, that putt was money. especially after NY threw the hammer

Atlanta threw the hammer on that hole making it worth 2 when NY accepted.

Correct, my bad.

I was caught up in Xander saying Billy couldn't make the putt and misremembered who threw it.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

Funny, that's exactly when I changed the channel. I tried but couldn't take anymore after Billy Bob's best PGA-WWF impression. What a joke, not interested in that "show" (act).

 

[WDIK2]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

Funny, that's exactly when I changed the channel. I tried but couldn't take anymore after Billy Bob's best PGA-WWF impression. What a joke, not interested in that "show" (act).

Do you think it was a show and he wasn't legitimately that excited?

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Anyone else watch the TGL final last night? I was entertained. Billy Ho was the MVP. He brought the energy and emotion.

The putt to pretty much win it with the Justin Thomas reaction in the background was great TV.

Funny, that's exactly when I changed the channel. I tried but couldn't take anymore after Billy Bob's best PGA-WWF impression. What a joke, not interested in that "show" (act).

Do you think it was a show and he wasn't legitimately that excited?

I think he rolled a little ball into a cup with a nice putt, but acted like he won a slam-dunk competition or just fake-pinned someone to the mat in front of a bunch of teens.

That pro bowler that would go nuts after a strike and ask if you wanted some of this comes to mind. But he rolled bigger balls.

 

[belljr]

That putt won the championship pretty much

 

[kcahnabru]

That putt won the championship pretty much

Exactly.

It was basically nailing a fade away three pointer to take the lead with a couple seconds left on the clock.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

That putt won the championship pretty much

Exactly.

It was basically nailing a fade away three pointer to take the lead with a couple seconds left on the clock.

Yeah, on Nintendo. Okay, maybe X-box.

 

[belljr]

That putt won the championship pretty much

Exactly.

It was basically nailing a fade away three pointer to take the lead with a couple seconds left on the clock.

Yeah, on Nintendo. Okay, maybe X-box.

Bro won 2.25 mill with that putt

 

[Harry Frogfish]

That putt won the championship pretty much

Exactly.

It was basically nailing a fade away three pointer to take the lead with a couple seconds left on the clock.

Yeah, on Nintendo. Okay, maybe X-box.

Bro won 2.25 mill with that putt

Cool story, bruh.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Gary Woodland in the hunt is great for the game

 

[ChiefD]

Scottie's Masters menu released:

https://x.com/themasters/status/1902374856252879324?s=46&t=sB97txzPHo78S6e754HUZQ

Looks good.

Good ****. I'd get both the steak and fish.

You’ll have nothing and like it.

 

[Josh Hines-Ward-Alan-Carr]

Ok, here's the pro thread...

My brewery is releasing a beer with Taylor Pendrith tomorrow so... could we have him win The Masters please?

 

[Instinctive]

Will try to make this front page for the remaining majors vs a separate thread

 

[tri-man 47]

That was a helluva final round at the Masters!!