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[Capella]

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,May 16 2005, 08:47 AM]

The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

I'm going to just assume Mr. Happy wrote that for you. At least, I hope he did.

 

[bialczabub]

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So for years that you came so close and always lost made it suck to be a Red Sox fan, but now that you've won, the fact that the Red Sox have come so close so many times makes them a greater team?

It has never sucked to be a Red Sox fan. Would we have liked to have had more titles over the years? Certainly... but I'd take 2nd over 3rd or 4th anyday.Are you implying that it sucks to be a Yankees fan right now because they're sandwiched between the Rays and Jays one step above the cellar in the league? Didn't think so.

If it didn't suck, then what was all the incessant whining for?

 

[Capella]

,May 16 2005, 09:16 AM]

So for years that you came so close and always lost made it suck to be a Red Sox fan, but now that you've won, the fact that the Red Sox have come so close so many times makes them a greater team?

It has never sucked to be a Red Sox fan. Would we have liked to have had more titles over the years? Certainly... but I'd take 2nd over 3rd or 4th anyday.Are you implying that it sucks to be a Yankees fan right now because they're sandwiched between the Rays and Jays one step above the cellar in the league? Didn't think so.

If it didn't suck, then what was all the incessant whining for?

you'd whine all the time too if you lived in New England.oh wait...you do.

 

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,May 16 2005, 09:16 AM]

So for years that you came so close and always lost made it suck to be a Red Sox fan, but now that you've won, the fact that the Red Sox have come so close so many times makes them a greater team?

It has never sucked to be a Red Sox fan. Would we have liked to have had more titles over the years? Certainly... but I'd take 2nd over 3rd or 4th anyday.Are you implying that it sucks to be a Yankees fan right now because they're sandwiched between the Rays and Jays one step above the cellar in the league? Didn't think so.

If it didn't suck, then what was all the incessant whining for?

Please provide a link to where I was whining. If you're talking about discussing why your team isn't performing up to it's potential then please include all Yankee's fans discussion of the current squad.

If you're referring to anything else please clarify.

And again I maintain that I've been a Sox fan since I was old enough to know what baseball was and I'd not change it for anything. No way I would ever want to be a fan of any other team.. ESPECIALLY the Yankees. The Sox are now getting a huge load of bandwagon fans and I must say there is no way I could deal with being a fan of the Yankees considering they have the biggest wad of bandwagon fans I've ever seen (not saying you're one... you're not).

 

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,May 16 2005, 09:16 AM]

So for years that you came so close and always lost made it suck to be a Red Sox fan, but now that you've won, the fact that the Red Sox have come so close so many times makes them a greater team?

It has never sucked to be a Red Sox fan. Would we have liked to have had more titles over the years? Certainly... but I'd take 2nd over 3rd or 4th anyday.Are you implying that it sucks to be a Yankees fan right now because they're sandwiched between the Rays and Jays one step above the cellar in the league? Didn't think so.

If it didn't suck, then what was all the incessant whining for?

you'd whine all the time too if you lived in New England.oh wait...you do.

I find it amusing that the only whining going on these days is by people complaining about New England fans.

 

[Darth Cheney]

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,May 16 2005, 08:47 AM]

The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

that was funny...... For the record, I think that Baltimore is one of the better hitting teams in the league and their good start plus a horrible start by the Yankees will make it interesting in Sept. But I don't think the Orioles have that ace that you need at crunch time....

 

[jwvdcw]

Good series.

Best of luck O's fans. Hope you guys win the division.

yes, very good series. GL to you as well.

 

[jwvdcw]

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Orioles- great April team

LOL. The Sawx win ONE pennant in 86 years, have ALWAYS had the reputation as the best team in baseball on Mothers Day (or Memorial Day take your pick), and now JTC is talking smack about how the O's are an April team.Ya got to love those New Englanders...

When exactly was it that the Orioles last finished ahead of Boston?Oh yeah... something like a DECADE ago.

It has little to do with the pennant and more to do with what has become the natural pecking order as of late in the AL EAST since...well...since just about when they created the AL EAST.

In 1997 the O's won the AL East wire-to-wire and then lost to the Yankees in the ALCS (with the help of the little kid in the right field stands interfereing on a catchable ball. 1997 isn't a "decade" ago. And until last season, the O's had more World Titles then the Sox in the last 86 years.

Sorry.. it was EIGHT years ago.. not TEN... hence my "something like a DECADE" ago comment. The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

When was the last time the Orioles have even BEEN to the World Series...let alone win it? OVER TWO DECADES ago? Okay.

Boston's World Series Record - 6-4

Baltimore's World Series Recrod - 3-4

Please don't even try to compare the two franchises on a historical level..

Regarding the current year.... I maintain that the O's will miss the playoffs.... care to put $50 or $100 on it?

So for years that you came so close and always lost made it suck to be a Red Sox fan, but now that you've won, the fact that the Red Sox have come so close so many times makes them a greater team?

It has never sucked to be a Red Sox fan. Would we have liked to have had more titles over the years? Certainly... but I'd take 2nd over 3rd or 4th anyday.Are you implying that it sucks to be a Yankees fan right now because they're sandwiched between the Rays and Jays one step above the cellar in the league? Didn't think so.

It does suck to be a Yanks fan right now(althought the win streak has helped things a little). Do you ever listen to NY sports talk radio? Everyone was miserable for the past month.

 

[jwvdcw]

,May 16 2005, 08:10 AM]

,May 16 2005, 08:47 AM]

The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

that was funny...... For the record, I think that Baltimore is one of the better hitting teams in the league and their good start plus a horrible start by the Yankees will make it interesting in Sept. But I don't think the Orioles have that ace that you need at crunch time....

O's team ERA: 3.95Yanks team ERA: 4.62

O's team WHIP: 1.35

Yanks team WHIP: 1.44

O's team Ks: 265

Yanks team Ks: 215

O's ace so far(best pitcher so far): Erik Bedard, 4-1 with 2.35 ERA

Yanks ace so far(best pitcher so far): Mike Mussina 4-2 with 3.46 ERA

 

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,May 16 2005, 08:10 AM]

,May 16 2005, 08:47 AM]

The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

that was funny...... For the record, I think that Baltimore is one of the better hitting teams in the league and their good start plus a horrible start by the Yankees will make it interesting in Sept. But I don't think the Orioles have that ace that you need at crunch time....

O's team ERA: 3.95Yanks team ERA: 4.62

O's team WHIP: 1.35

Yanks team WHIP: 1.44

O's team Ks: 265

Yanks team Ks: 215

O's ace so far(best pitcher so far): Erik Bedard, 4-1 with 2.35 ERA

Yanks ace so far(best pitcher so far): Mike Mussina 4-2 with 3.46 ERA

You're kidding with this, right?Bedards numbers last year: 4.59 ERA - 1.60 WHIP

Do you really think he's going to hold on to that 2.35 ERA? No. At best he'll finish mid 3.50's but should realistically end the year in the upper 3's or lower 4's.

Bruce Chen is a full point below his career ERA and 0.20 below his career WHIP as well.

Once hitters get a little more time to study Bedard this year his numbers will stabilize. The O's do not have a true ace of their squad and are peaking FAR too earily with regards to pitching and I'd wager $ that their team ERA will rise by at least half a point by end of the season.

 

[Darth Cheney]

,May 16 2005, 08:10 AM]

,May 16 2005, 08:47 AM]

The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

that was funny...... For the record, I think that Baltimore is one of the better hitting teams in the league and their good start plus a horrible start by the Yankees will make it interesting in Sept. But I don't think the Orioles have that ace that you need at crunch time....

O's team ERA: 3.95Yanks team ERA: 4.62

O's team WHIP: 1.35

Yanks team WHIP: 1.44

O's team Ks: 265

Yanks team Ks: 215

O's ace so far(best pitcher so far): Erik Bedard, 4-1 with 2.35 ERA

Yanks ace so far(best pitcher so far): Mike Mussina 4-2 with 3.46 ERA

That's all and well for mid May but none of those pitchers have done anything career wise to warrant a belief that they'll be able to perform at crunch time. If Angelos went out and picked up a stud in the next month or two I could see the Orioles there but not with the guys they have... but hey if I'm wrong and you're right then you're the man.

 

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]The Red Sox have 6 Titles.. how many do the O's have? Half as many? Okay.

5 of which were won while your great-granddaddy was in diapers.

I'm sure you proudly display your "nineteen-aught-three" World Series Champs memorbilia in your home.

The worst part of the Sox winning the Series last year was having to listen to their insufferable fans carrying on about #### now.

Somebody sounds upset they've got to display their DRay's world title memorabilia next to their unicorn, never-ending beer mug, and picture of their girlfriend....Oh wait... none of those things exist

that was funny...... For the record, I think that Baltimore is one of the better hitting teams in the league and their good start plus a horrible start by the Yankees will make it interesting in Sept. But I don't think the Orioles have that ace that you need at crunch time....

O's team ERA: 3.95Yanks team ERA: 4.62

O's team WHIP: 1.35

Yanks team WHIP: 1.44

O's team Ks: 265

Yanks team Ks: 215

O's ace so far(best pitcher so far): Erik Bedard, 4-1 with 2.35 ERA

Yanks ace so far(best pitcher so far): Mike Mussina 4-2 with 3.46 ERA

That's all and well for mid May but none of those pitchers have done anything career wise to warrant a belief that they'll be able to perform at crunch time. If Angelos went out and picked up a stud in the next month or two I could see the Orioles there but not with the guys they have... but hey if I'm wrong and you're right then you're the man.

A lot of the improvement of the O's staff can be traced to hiring Ray Miller as the pitching coach. He was the coach who developed guys like Mike Flanagan and Mike Boddicker and Storm Davis back in the '80s. His mantra is work fast and throw strikes and he's got the guys like Bedard and Cabrera believing in it.I agree, we'll have to see how they hold up to a lot of innings in the dog days and a pennant race. But even if '05 is just a dress rehersal, the Sox/Yankees can't like the direction the franchise it headed for '06, so long as Angelos doesn't screw it up.

 

[jwvdcw]

I agree, we'll have to see how they hold up to a lot of innings in the dog days and a pennant race.  But even if '05 is just a dress rehersal, the Sox/Yankees can't like the direction the franchise it headed for '06, so long as Angelos doesn't screw it up.

 

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I agree, we'll have to see how they hold up to a lot of innings in the dog days and a pennant race. But even if '05 is just a dress rehersal, the Sox/Yankees can't like the direction the franchise it headed for '06, so long as Angelos doesn't screw it up.

So now we're looking forward to '06 after one Ponson pounding?Just trying to keep up here...

 

[jwvdcw]

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I agree, we'll have to see how they hold up to a lot of innings in the dog days and a pennant race.  But even if '05 is just a dress rehersal, the Sox/Yankees can't like the direction the franchise it headed for '06, so long as Angelos doesn't screw it up.

So now we're looking forward to '06 after one Ponson pounding?Just trying to keep up here...

The O's won the game...calm down. Who is your team anyway?

 

[kedrok]

As a fan of the Orioles, I would love to say winning last night's game makes the Ponson situation easy to ignore but the realist in me will not allow that to happen.Mr. Krispy Kreme got smoked last night by a Sweeney-less Royals team that is about as potent as my local high school's varsity squad. The Orioles will need Ponson to step up because chances are Chen and Bedard aren't going to be able to sustain their current pace. While I agree with other posters regarding how much Ray Miller has helped this staff, it is not possible that virtually unknown players will all come out of nowhere to win 15-18 games each.Again, Ponson's lard ###, unfortunately, will be a key component of the Orioles winning their division or the AL wildcard.

 

[660]

Being raised in Rochester, NY I got to see the Rochester Redwings play many games. (Rochester is the farm team for Baltimore). While the Yanks are my favorite team, it never hurts my feelings to see a franchise like Baltimore succeed.

 

[Marvelous]

As a fan of the Orioles, I would love to say winning last night's game makes the Ponson situation easy to ignore but the realist in me will not allow that to happen.

Mr. Krispy Kreme got smoked last night by a Sweeney-less Royals team that is about as potent as my local high school's varsity squad.

The Orioles will need Ponson to step up because chances are Chen and Bedard aren't going to be able to sustain their current pace. While I agree with other posters regarding how much Ray Miller has helped this staff, it is not possible that virtually unknown players will all come out of nowhere to win 15-18 games each.

Again, Ponson's lard ###, unfortunately, will be a key component of the Orioles winning their division or the AL wildcard.

Why is everyone so gung ho on claiming the Orioles can't keep it up? Do you think Steve Kline will flat out blow 4 out of every 30 games for the Orioles? Do you think Palmero will bat .220 for the season? And getting Sosa and Matos back could help them. The fact is there are lots of players on the Orioles who may play BETTER than they are currently playing and that could easily compensate for a drop off in other players not playing as well as they have in the beginning of the season.

 

[bialczabub]

As a fan of the Orioles, I would love to say winning last night's game makes the Ponson situation easy to ignore but the realist in me will not allow that to happen.

Mr. Krispy Kreme got smoked last night by a Sweeney-less Royals team that is about as potent as my local high school's varsity squad.

The Orioles will need Ponson to step up because chances are Chen and Bedard aren't going to be able to sustain their current pace. While I agree with other posters regarding how much Ray Miller has helped this staff, it is not possible that virtually unknown players will all come out of nowhere to win 15-18 games each.

Again, Ponson's lard ###, unfortunately, will be a key component of the Orioles winning their division or the AL wildcard.

Why is everyone so gung ho on claiming the Orioles can't keep it up? Do you think Steve Kline will flat out blow 4 out of every 30 games for the Orioles? Do you think Palmero will bat .220 for the season? And getting Sosa and Matos back could help them. The fact is there are lots of players on the Orioles who may play BETTER than they are currently playing and that could easily compensate for a drop off in other players not playing as well as they have in the beginning of the season.

Player(age)---2005 OPS/2004 OPS/career OPSSosa(37)---779/849/890 down 70 from last year

Roberts(27)---1122/720/729 up almost 400 from lifetime

Matos(26)---776/608/696 up 80 from lifetime

Palmeiro(40)---717/795/887 down 80 from last year

Tejada(29)---990/894/813 up 100 from last year, 180 from lifetime

Mora(33)---831/981/814 down 150 from last year, 17 better than lifetime

Lopez(34)---827/873/843 down about 50 from last year, 15 below lifetime

Gibbons(28)---846/682/771 160 above last year, 75 above lifetime

Surhoff(40)---706/785/749 down 80 from last year, 40 from lifetime

Bigbie(28)---602/768/739 down 165 from last year, 135 from lifetime

The problem with these batters that the numbers don't particularly show is that many of them have aged past their prime (~25-29) and shouldn't even be expected to duplicate last year's numbers nevermind career(Mora, Tejada, Palmeiro, Surhoff, Sosa). Throw in the fact that old guys are more probne to injury and you can see why the prognosticators are out.

Player(age)---2005 ERA/2004 ERA/career ERA

Ponson(29)---5.94/5.30/4.71

Lopez(30)---4.47/3.59/4.43

Bedard(27)---2.35/4.59/3.99

Cabrera(25)---4.93/5.00/4.98

Chen(29)---3.38/3.02/4.35

So this looks pretty good because the bullpen is doing very well, but...

Do you think this rotation will have a season as good (and therefore not cause overuse of the bullpen) as the Yankees or Red Sox? I just don't see it. See for yourself:

Ponson, Lopez, Bedard, Cabrera, Chen

Johnson, Mussina, Pavano, Wright, Brown

Schilling, Wells, Wakefield, Arroyo, Miller, Clement

Keep in mind also, that Ponson is pitching much better than the above ERA as he got destroyed the other night.

 

[jwvdcw]

As a fan of the Orioles, I would love to say winning last night's game makes the Ponson situation easy to ignore but the realist in me will not allow that to happen.

Mr. Krispy Kreme got smoked last night by a Sweeney-less Royals team that is about as potent as my local high school's varsity squad.

The Orioles will need Ponson to step up because chances are Chen and Bedard aren't going to be able to sustain their current pace. While I agree with other posters regarding how much Ray Miller has helped this staff, it is not possible that virtually unknown players will all come out of nowhere to win 15-18 games each.

Again, Ponson's lard ###, unfortunately, will be a key component of the Orioles winning their division or the AL wildcard.

Why is everyone so gung ho on claiming the Orioles can't keep it up? Do you think Steve Kline will flat out blow 4 out of every 30 games for the Orioles? Do you think Palmero will bat .220 for the season? And getting Sosa and Matos back could help them. The fact is there are lots of players on the Orioles who may play BETTER than they are currently playing and that could easily compensate for a drop off in other players not playing as well as they have in the beginning of the season.

I say

 

[jwvdcw]

Orioles winRed Sox loseBlue Jays loseYanks loseDevil Rays loseI'm still waiting for the O's to have that collapse that everyone is waiting for. :icypots:

 

[jwvdcw]

I think Bedard is for real....

Baltimore 7, Philadelphia 0

Preview - Box Score - Recap

May 21, 2005

AP - May 21, 11:02 pm EDT

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BALTIMORE (AP) -- Erik Bedard chuckled when someone suggested he's turning into the Baltimore Orioles' ace.

If not he's not their top pitcher yet, he's certainly getting closer.

Bedard pitched five-hit ball for seven innings to win his fifth consecutive decision, and the Orioles averted their first three-game losing streak of the season by beating the Philadelphia Phillies 7-0 Saturday night.

``He's been incredible,'' said Orioles outfielder Jay Gibbons, who homered. ``The main thing is he's throwing strikes. We always knew he had the stuff. Last year, he had the same stuff. He just had a little more trouble locating it. Right now, he's lights out.''

Bedard (5-1) walked two and struck out seven in the Orioles' fourth shutout this year. He is unbeaten in six starts since losing to Detroit on April 18.

``I feel good,'' Bedard said. ``Again, I was just throwing strikes and keeping them off-balance. That's pretty much the key to pitching. If you struggle, you get behind in counts and you have problems.''

Better known for his changeup and curve, Bedard frustrated the Phillies with his fastball, using offspeed stuff to set up that pitch.

``I thought his fastball was his best pitch tonight,'' Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel said. ``He had tremendous command. He had a cutter up and in on right-handers and just moved it around on lefties. But his fastball was his big pitch.''

Brian Roberts had three hits for Baltimore. Chris Gomez drove in three runs, and Gibbons and Jeff Fiorentino had two RBIs apiece.

Five times this season, the Orioles have lost two straight. But they always come up with a way to quickly halt losing spurts.

``You like to minimize that and stay away from long streaks,'' Baltimore manager Lee Mazzilli said. ``That's what we've been able to do.''

Jorge Julio and Steve Kline each pitched an inning to complete the five-hitter and hand the Phillies their third shutout -- all on the road.

Baltimore, whose 56-84 record in interleague games entering Saturday was the worst mark in the major leagues, took a 2-0 lead off Vicente Padilla in the third.

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A double by Gibbons, a walk to Gomez and a botched fielder's choice on Larry Bigbie's sacrifice attempt loaded the bases. After Roberts popped out, Fiorentino hit a two-run single into left field.

The Orioles ran themselves out of a chance to pad their lead in the fifth when Roberts hit a one-out double to the wall in left-center and was thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple. Fiorentino followed with a double and Melvin Mora reached on an infield hit before Miguel Tejada bounced into an inning-ending groundout.

Gibbons' seventh homer made it 4-0 in the sixth. Rafael Palmeiro led off with a single to right, and after Javy Lopez fanned, Gibbons hit a 1-1 pitch from Padilla (1-5) over the right-field scoreboard.

Padilla, whose lone win came in his last start on May 15 against Cincinnati, departed after allowing four runs -- three earned -- in 5 2-3 innings. He gave up 10 hits, walked one and struck out four.

Gomez's three-run double off Terry Adams in the eighth made it 7-0.

``We've got to get better in the bullpen,'' Manuel said. ``You want to stop the game right there. I worry about the middle relief guys.''

Notes

The Orioles snapped Philadelphia's season-high streak of 12 games with a home run. ... Baltimore is tied with Chicago for the most shutouts in the AL. ... Before the game, Philadelphia activated 1B Jim Thome (lower back strain) from the disabled list and optioned 1B Ryan Howard to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. ... A first-inning single extended Orioles 2B Roberts' hitting streak to 12 games. ... Phillies OF Bobby Abreu went 0-for-3 to end his hitting streak at 13.

 

[kedrok]

Bedard may have Ace stuff this year... Ponson, on the other hand, delivered another dreadful performance. Dude's a total clown and embarassment to all professional athletes. I've seen umpires in better shape than him.

 

[jwvdcw]

Bedard may have Ace stuff this year...

Ponson, on the other hand, delivered another dreadful performance. Dude's a total clown and embarassment to all professional athletes. I've seen umpires in better shape than him.

4 runs through 7 innings is 'dreadful'?

 

[bialczabub]

Bedard may have Ace stuff this year...

Ponson, on the other hand, delivered another dreadful performance. Dude's a total clown and embarassment to all professional athletes. I've seen umpires in better shape than him.

4 runs through 7 innings is 'dreadful'?

It's an ERA over 5.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Bedard may have Ace stuff this year...

Ponson, on the other hand, delivered another dreadful performance. Dude's a total clown and embarassment to all professional athletes. I've seen umpires in better shape than him.

4 runs through 7 innings is 'dreadful'?

Combine that with a 1.57 WHIP (walked a lot of guys) and its pretty close to dreadful.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Orioles win

Red Sox lose

Blue Jays lose

Yanks lose

Devil Rays lose

I'm still waiting for the O's to have that collapse that everyone is waiting for. :icypots:

All in due time, its not even June yet.

 

[Marvelous]

Bedard may have Ace stuff this year...

Ponson, on the other hand, delivered another dreadful performance. Dude's a total clown and embarassment to all professional athletes. I've seen umpires in better shape than him.

4 runs through 7 innings is 'dreadful'?

I actually thought this was one of Ponson's better outings. Ponson has gotten excellent run suppprt or his w/l record would be dreadfulBedard is looking awesome. Carbera has been hot and cold with little middle ground. Lopez and Chen are decent.

Bullpen, except Kline, has been very good.

Ray Miller is awesome. He is the reason I think the Oriole's pitching staff can keep it up. If they still had Mark Wiley, I would be pessimist.

 

[jwvdcw]

Sosa finally gets back and we lose Javy Lopez and Brian Roberts tonight!!! Man!Anyone who says that the O's are just getting lucky and will fall off is crazy...the O's have had a ton of tough luck so far.

 

[Night Hawks]

Sosa finally gets back and we lose Javy Lopez and Brian Roberts tonight!!! Man!

Really?? That sucks. I like that Brian Roberts kid.

 

[Green94]

Sosa finally gets back and we lose Javy Lopez and Brian Roberts tonight!!! Man!

Really?? That sucks. I like that Brian Roberts kid.

Sosa is a studI really love that guy

 

[jwvdcw]

Not good news here: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...0661&hl=orioles

But we continue to win despite these injuries

 

[jwvdcw]

sweep of the Mariners and the Sox get swept...2 game lead goes up to 5 over the Sox!Now I hope the Yanks and Sox play several extra inning games and wear each other out here.

 

[Darth Cheney]

sweep of the Mariners and the Sox get swept...2 game lead goes up to 5 over the Sox!

Now I hope the Yanks and Sox play several extra inning games and wear each other out here.

Yeah but the Yanks and Jays are on fire. Good for the Yanks that they get 4 with KC after this weekend while the O's get the Sox for 4 in Boston and without Bedard.....

 

[jwvdcw]

sweep of the Mariners and the Sox get swept...2 game lead goes up to 5 over the Sox!

Now I hope the Yanks and Sox play several extra inning games and wear each other out here.

Yeah but the Yanks and Jays are on fire. Good for the Yanks that they get 4 with KC after this weekend while the O's get the Sox for 4 in Boston and without Bedard.....

I'm estatic to be getting Boston right now. Better time to play them than any other imo.

 

[jwvdcw]

O's lose 3 in a row for the first time all year...and to Detroit of all teams

 

[Mr.Happy]

Red Sox almost sweep the red hot Yankees, and now we welcome in an ice cold Orioles team. It's on like donkey kong #####es.

 

[jwvdcw]

Red Sox almost sweep the red hot Yankees, and now we welcome in an ice cold Orioles team. It's on like donkey kong #####es.

well the O's did sweep the series before Detroit, so its not like they're too cold.Bring it on, man!

Edited to add: Good job against the Yanks...I'm no Boston fan by any means, but I always root against NY.

 

[jwvdcw]

7-0 Orioles in the 3rd...so much for that 'ice cold' Orioles team, huh?

 

[Mr.Happy]

7-0 Orioles in the 3rd...so much for that 'ice cold' Orioles team, huh?

Win wise. There is no question to how good their offense is.

 

[jwvdcw]

7-0 Orioles in the 3rd...so much for that 'ice cold' Orioles team, huh?

Win wise. There is no question to how good their offense is.

The O's were 3-3 in their last 6. The Sox were 2-4.I still disagree with you....but whatever...thats just a petty little argument...lets just sit back and enjoy the series. Good luck to you. I'd much rather have us battling for the division than NY.

 

[jwvdcw]

game 1 goes to the O's.

 

[jwvdcw]

game 2 to the Soxbut game 3 has the O's up 7-0 in the 6th

 

[jwvdcw]

O's beat Sox...Yanks lose 2nd straight to KC...hahahahahaaha!!!

 

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O's beat Sox...Yanks lose 2nd straight to KC...hahahahahaaha!!!

Ready to take that bet? 2-1 Odds your O's don't make the Playoffs?$50 to win $100

 

[jwvdcw]

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O's beat Sox...Yanks lose 2nd straight to KC...hahahahahaaha!!!

Ready to take that bet? 2-1 Odds your O's don't make the Playoffs?$50 to win $100

If you add a sig bet into there as well, then I'll do it...I like sig bets and that probably means more to me than the cash to be honest with you.

 

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,Jun 1 2005, 10:23 PM]

O's beat Sox...Yanks lose 2nd straight to KC...hahahahahaaha!!!

Ready to take that bet? 2-1 Odds your O's don't make the Playoffs?$50 to win $100

If you add a sig bet into there as well, then I'll do it...I like sig bets and that probably means more to me than the cash to be honest with you.

Sig bets are gay. Let's go for the money. Quit backing down... baseball prospectus lists you guys at 80% for making the playoffs

 

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,Jun 1 2005, 10:23 PM]

O's beat Sox...Yanks lose 2nd straight to KC...hahahahahaaha!!!

Ready to take that bet? 2-1 Odds your O's don't make the Playoffs?$50 to win $100

If you add a sig bet into there as well, then I'll do it...I like sig bets and that probably means more to me than the cash to be honest with you.

Sig bets are gay. Let's go for the money. Quit backing down... baseball prospectus lists you guys at 80% for making the playoffs

I'm wanting to do both.....you stop backing down.

 

[jwvdcw]

bump for today's game. The O's have Hayden Penn going today. He is a promising young guy who just got called up with Bedard's injury. Had mixed results in his first game against the Tigers: 4.2 IP, 1 ER, 2 UER.From yahoo: The 20-year-old righthander features an excellent changeup and pitching savvy that one might expect from a veteran pitcher. In nine starts at Bowie, Penn was 3-3 with a 3.12 ERA and 58 strikeouts in 49 innings.

 

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