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*** Official Baseball Wagering Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Final Card

CWS +130 - Chase Play

OAK +105 - Nice price on Gaudin

Detroit +125: King Felix has not been as dominant lately; Looks like a nice price on the Rookie Miller

GLTA

 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?

 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
That's a good line. Unfortunately my book doesn't put up lines until around 10:00 est.Just an FYI, Washburn's last three starts: 3-0. 1.23 ERA, 1.16 WHIP (although admittedly this was against KC, TOR and Cincy)
 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
Seattle is hot and they are good at home but this still looks like a pretty solid Detroit play to me. Detroit a good road team, they hit lefties well and obviously they have the edge at starter, big bullpen edge goes to Seattle though.
 
Updated Record:

Parlays 1-6 +7.0 units

Totals 33-38-5 -8.4 units

Sides 44-35 +18.2 units

Chase Plays (Which are not part of the above):

28-21+12.96 units

Total:+29.76 units

1-2 yesterday; I should have known better than to bet on Gaudin :ptts:

 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
That's a good line. Unfortunately my book doesn't put up lines until around 10:00 est.Just an FYI, Washburn's last three starts: 3-0. 1.23 ERA, 1.16 WHIP (although admittedly this was against KC, TOR and Cincy)
His peripherals don't really support that good of an ERA, his K/9 is around 4, BB/9 around 2, and his AO/HR ratio is abnormally high.Agree on the bullpen though, hopefully Detroit gets into Washburn quickly.
 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
That's a good line. Unfortunately my book doesn't put up lines until around 10:00 est.Just an FYI, Washburn's last three starts: 3-0. 1.23 ERA, 1.16 WHIP (although admittedly this was against KC, TOR and Cincy)
His peripherals don't really support that good of an ERA, his K/9 is around 4, BB/9 around 2, and his AO/HR ratio is abnormally high.Agree on the bullpen though, hopefully Detroit gets into Washburn quickly.
Washburn's been doing it with smoke and mirrors his entire career. Crafty lefties do this. Jamie Moyer's been doing it for half a century now. I certainly agree with you that Washburn's very hittable, and I did point out his last three starts were against crappy offensive teams.I lean Detroit at a low vig here.
 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
That's a good line. Unfortunately my book doesn't put up lines until around 10:00 est.Just an FYI, Washburn's last three starts: 3-0. 1.23 ERA, 1.16 WHIP (although admittedly this was against KC, TOR and Cincy)
His peripherals don't really support that good of an ERA, his K/9 is around 4, BB/9 around 2, and his AO/HR ratio is abnormally high.Agree on the bullpen though, hopefully Detroit gets into Washburn quickly.
Washburn's been doing it with smoke and mirrors his entire career. Crafty lefties do this. Jamie Moyer's been doing it for half a century now. I certainly agree with you that Washburn's very hittable, and I did point out his last three starts were against crappy offensive teams.I lean Detroit at a low vig here.
If you have access to a 5 inning line I would think that's the safe bet when putting money on Detroit.
 
Three Chase Plays today:

Wash +140

STL +130

Pitt +140

Houston +158 was also a chase play today, but I missed the first pitch, which based on the ingame score looks like a good thing.

GLTA

 
Leroy Hoard said:
guru_007 said:
Your Mother said:
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
That's a good line. Unfortunately my book doesn't put up lines until around 10:00 est.Just an FYI, Washburn's last three starts: 3-0. 1.23 ERA, 1.16 WHIP (although admittedly this was against KC, TOR and Cincy)
His peripherals don't really support that good of an ERA, his K/9 is around 4, BB/9 around 2, and his AO/HR ratio is abnormally high.Agree on the bullpen though, hopefully Detroit gets into Washburn quickly.
Washburn's been doing it with smoke and mirrors his entire career. Crafty lefties do this. Jamie Moyer's been doing it for half a century now. I certainly agree with you that Washburn's very hittable, and I did point out his last three starts were against crappy offensive teams.I lean Detroit at a low vig here.
If you have access to a 5 inning line I would think that's the safe bet when putting money on Detroit.
Better yet, if you have access to a first inning line, bet over 0.5. Bonderman always gives up 1-3 runs in the first then shuts em down for 6 innings.
 
grrrr.

Had a good long write up written and my router went out went posting and I lost it. :eek:

Plays without writeups:

Boston -134

Philly -145

Mil/Col o8.5 -120

I know a little chalky....but I had my reasons

was leaning Oak+220, but wanted more...and I'm going out now, so no play

RL Parlay:

Atl +145

Fla +135

that was it for the early games....late games looking at Texas and Detroit, but no ***official*** plays yet.

g'luck

 
grrrr.Had a good long write up written and my router went out went posting and I lost it. :nerd:Plays without writeups:Boston -134 Philly -145Mil/Col o8.5 -120I know a little chalky....but I had my reasonswas leaning Oak+220, but wanted more...and I'm going out now, so no playRL Parlay:Atl +145Fla +135that was it for the early games....late games looking at Texas and Detroit, but no ***official*** plays yet.g'luck
easy winners on Philly and the Rocks over....but the Sox let me down. Session was a wash with the RL parlay going down the drains. let's see what happens today
 
Going out for most of the day.....but sent these in....

o9 Mets(Glavine)/Cincy(Belisle)

Two very hittable starters, two capable offenses, and the Cincy bullpen is a mess, so I think this is a good spot.

010 Yankes(Wang)/TB(Sonnanstine)

weak starter for TB, horrible bullpen, good yankee offense. I'll take a small chance here

RL Parlay:

Atlanta +145

Philly ev

Both teams put up big victories last night and each get the better of the starting pitching matchups again today. I think there is a decent chance for each team to score big victories again today, so I'll take a chance

g'luck

 
I am a D backs fan and I go to quite a few triple A Sidewinders games. As a result I have seen most of the current young players in Phoenix up close. When they were here in Tucson they were smashing the ball. The Sidewinders won the PCL Championship last year and it wasnt really close. I was very excited to see these sluggers head up north to the Dbacks. I expected an explosive offense. As you know they have sucked offensively and only our pitching has us where we are. Lots of talk about why this would be around here. Many of the fans came to the conclusion that the only reason all the hitters could go cold at the same time would be the hitting coach. Well good news Seitzer was fired and Schu was put in his place.

What does this mean to us? I expect D backs Overs to cover now until people catch on. I watched the game last night and coincidence or not we looked much better hitting.

Here is a link.

PHOENIX -- With their offense stuck near the bottom of the National League, the D-backs dismissed hitting coach Kevin Seitzer on Wednesday and replaced him with Rick Schu.

"We have not performed as well offensively as we have hoped," general manager Josh Byrnes said. "I don't know that it's all Kevin Seitzer's fault by any stretch, but we did feel like this was a change worth making. Rick Schu deserves the chance to try to get our offense on track."

Seitzer, 45, was hired by Arizona last October to replace Mike Aldrete despite not having any previous professional coaching experience. Schu and Dave Hudgens were the other candidates for the position.

Seitzer's teachings seemed to resonate with players this spring. He drew wide praise for his optimism and ability to tweak a batter's mechanics, and the D-backs led the Majors in on-base percentage with a .389 mark and runs scored with 226 in March. The club also led the league with a .314 batting average.

The regular season, though, was a different story. Arizona has struggled to put together consistent offense throughout the year and entered the second half ranked next to last in the NL in batting average (.248), 13th in on-base percentage (.316), 12th in runs scored (371) and 10th in slugging percentage (.401).

"Yes and no," Byrnes said when asked if 90 games was a fair amount of time to judge Seitzer. "I think Kevin did a lot of good things and had a lot of ability teaching hitting. I think as a team we're just not hitting as much as we hoped, and ... we feel like a different voice might be more helpful to get things turned around."

The struggles by the team's young hitters certainly played a role in the decision. The team was counting on production from a core of young players -- Stephen Drew, Conor Jackson, Carlos Quentin and Chris Young -- who showed signs of their potential last season.

This year it's been a struggle for them. Drew is hitting just .242, Jackson .266 and Young .233, and Quentin's .210 batting average earned him a demotion to Triple-A just before the All-Star break.

Discussions about replacing Seitzer had been ongoing, but picked up steam over the last week, as the team dropped five straight and struggled with its situational hitting.

"We're just looking for an answer," said manager Bob Melvin, who was part of the decision-making process. "Kevin Seitzer has worked as hard as anyone I've ever been around. It's not fair to put the blame on him, but we're going to bring in a guy that's got a history with these players and had some success working with them."

This will be Schu's second stint in the position, having previously served as hitting coach in 2004. He did not have his contract renewed at the end of that season and returned to his role as the organization's hitting coordinator. In that capacity he's worked with the team's young hitters on their rise through the system.

"I think Rick Schu has a lot of history with these guys and can get them back to the things that made them successful in the first place," Byrnes said.

Schu nearly got the job last October, and the front office held its collective breath when he interviewed for the Rockies' vacant hitting coach position, which went to Alan Cockrell.

"I think it was a close call the first round," Byrnes said, referring to last October's interviews, "and after 90 games we just decided that we wanted to give him the chance to do it. He has some history with them, and he's well-thought-of around the game. I think we're just trying to make a change to see if that gets us performing a little bit better."

Steve Gilbert is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

 
I am a D backs fan and I go to quite a few triple A Sidewinders games. As a result I have seen most of the current young players in Phoenix up close. When they were here in Tucson they were smashing the ball. The Sidewinders won the PCL Championship last year and it wasnt really close. I was very excited to see these sluggers head up north to the Dbacks. I expected an explosive offense. As you know they have sucked offensively and only our pitching has us where we are. Lots of talk about why this would be around here. Many of the fans came to the conclusion that the only reason all the hitters could go cold at the same time would be the hitting coach. Well good news Seitzer was fired and Schu was put in his place.What does this mean to us? I expect D backs Overs to cover now until people catch on. I watched the game last night and coincidence or not we looked much better hitting. Here is a link.PHOENIX -- With their offense stuck near the bottom of the National League, the D-backs dismissed hitting coach Kevin Seitzer on Wednesday and replaced him with Rick Schu. "We have not performed as well offensively as we have hoped," general manager Josh Byrnes said. "I don't know that it's all Kevin Seitzer's fault by any stretch, but we did feel like this was a change worth making. Rick Schu deserves the chance to try to get our offense on track." Seitzer, 45, was hired by Arizona last October to replace Mike Aldrete despite not having any previous professional coaching experience. Schu and Dave Hudgens were the other candidates for the position. Seitzer's teachings seemed to resonate with players this spring. He drew wide praise for his optimism and ability to tweak a batter's mechanics, and the D-backs led the Majors in on-base percentage with a .389 mark and runs scored with 226 in March. The club also led the league with a .314 batting average. The regular season, though, was a different story. Arizona has struggled to put together consistent offense throughout the year and entered the second half ranked next to last in the NL in batting average (.248), 13th in on-base percentage (.316), 12th in runs scored (371) and 10th in slugging percentage (.401). "Yes and no," Byrnes said when asked if 90 games was a fair amount of time to judge Seitzer. "I think Kevin did a lot of good things and had a lot of ability teaching hitting. I think as a team we're just not hitting as much as we hoped, and ... we feel like a different voice might be more helpful to get things turned around." The struggles by the team's young hitters certainly played a role in the decision. The team was counting on production from a core of young players -- Stephen Drew, Conor Jackson, Carlos Quentin and Chris Young -- who showed signs of their potential last season. This year it's been a struggle for them. Drew is hitting just .242, Jackson .266 and Young .233, and Quentin's .210 batting average earned him a demotion to Triple-A just before the All-Star break. Discussions about replacing Seitzer had been ongoing, but picked up steam over the last week, as the team dropped five straight and struggled with its situational hitting. "We're just looking for an answer," said manager Bob Melvin, who was part of the decision-making process. "Kevin Seitzer has worked as hard as anyone I've ever been around. It's not fair to put the blame on him, but we're going to bring in a guy that's got a history with these players and had some success working with them." This will be Schu's second stint in the position, having previously served as hitting coach in 2004. He did not have his contract renewed at the end of that season and returned to his role as the organization's hitting coordinator. In that capacity he's worked with the team's young hitters on their rise through the system. "I think Rick Schu has a lot of history with these guys and can get them back to the things that made them successful in the first place," Byrnes said. Schu nearly got the job last October, and the front office held its collective breath when he interviewed for the Rockies' vacant hitting coach position, which went to Alan Cockrell. "I think it was a close call the first round," Byrnes said, referring to last October's interviews, "and after 90 games we just decided that we wanted to give him the chance to do it. He has some history with them, and he's well-thought-of around the game. I think we're just trying to make a change to see if that gets us performing a little bit better." Steve Gilbert is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
It's a big adjustment from AAA to MLB, especially for hitters, especially for young hitters. Look how bad Sheffield was for the Brewers when he was 19-20, plenty of other examples too.
 
Bonderman is -108 against Washburn tomorrow. I'm a n00b with a couple bucks at World Sports Exchange, can someone tell me why I shouldn't take Detroit here?
:whistle: Today:

Vazquez @ D. Cabrera +102

Lowe @ Matt Morris (no Bonds) -127
1-1, tough split with Jenks blowing a 2 run lead in the 9th. Felt like I had a good read on both, though.Only thing I like tomorrow is Houston +125. Rodriguez and Marquis have very similar ERAs, but very disparate skill sets. Any thoughts on the current state of Houston's pen?

 
Anyone like Pitt +142???????

I am leaning towards it but I would feel better if someone else liked it to. I dont see to much I like today. I will look closer when I get home.

 

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