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Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (1 Viewer)

People should watch last years Huskies vs Oregon and see what happens to Sankey vs good defenses. He looked very Bobby Raineyish. He got decent stats on volume, but a lot of 2-3 yard carries with one 70 yard td run. If he gets volume in the NFL he will be good for fantasy, but long term he is likely to end up in a RBBC with a better through the tackles runner. I plan on drafting him this year in redraft as a low RB2 with upside but i wouldnt bet on him long term.
Watched it again and thought he looked outstanding in that game. I have no idea what your talking about here.

 
Yeah I just re-watched that game and it made me want to draft him #1 overall.

Things I noticed

Made people miss in space - check (I mean he broke defenders ankles bad on two separate occasions)

Ran well between the tackles - check

Showed good hands catching - check

Showed homerun speed - check

Got yards after contact - check (side note I also saw him go down easy a couple of times so that's 50/50)

Got skinny in the hole - check ( I personally think he excels at this because I've seen on several occasions where he doesn't need a lot of room to break big inside runs.)

In that game Sankey reminded me of a stronger Gio. He looked great.

 
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Bishop Sankey talks fitness, nutrition and "gassers"

The Tennessee Titans made Bishop Sankey the first running back selected in the 2014 NFL Draft when they took him in the second round. NFL UP! chatted with the former University of Washington star about his workout and nutrition regimens.

Q: WHAT'S IT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU SINCE YOU GOT DRAFTED?

A: It's been a great feeling. It's starting to sink in now. It's been a dream come true. Something I've wanted to happen since I was seven years old.

Q: WHAT WAS YOUR FITNESS ROUTINE LIKE IN COLLEGE?

A: It varied. It depended on what time of the year it was. Most of the time in the offseason we had workouts at six o'clock or nine or twelve and you were divided by group. So I'd be at the second group at nine o'clock and we'd have a lifting session in the morning. Then a conditioning session.

Q: YOU RAN "GASSERS" IN COLLEGE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THEY BENFITTED YOU?

A: We ran them at the University of Washington. We ran them during the season and offseason. In the offseason, we ran them at the end of each morning workout, where as during the season we ran them on Sundays just to run some of the lactic acid in our legs from the game. They helped me keep conditioned.

Q: WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PHYSICAL TRAIT AND DRILL FOR A RUNNING BACK?

A: I think an important physical trait that a running back needs is power and explosion. Just because that first yard through 10th yard is vital in terms of exploding through the hole and getting to the second level as quickly as you can. For me, a drill that's helped me become more explosive is the back squat. That's been a big deal. Also, resistance running.

Q: WHAT'S THE TOUGHEST DRILL YOU FACED GROWING UP, BUT HAS BENEFITTED YOU THE MOST?

A: The toughest drill I faced were team runs at the University of Washington. It was every Friday morning and it's an half hour to hour of non-stop drills. You're going station to station. Seven minutes straight at each drill. It's a gigantic conditioning and agility drill. It's been difficult, but it's helped me become more agile.

Q: WHAT WILL YOUR FITNESS REGIMEN BE LIKE NOW WITH THE TITANS?

A: I honestly don't know at this point. I'm pretty sure it will be similar to the University of Washington.

Q: WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU HAVE FOR FUTURE RUNNING BACKS?

A: One piece of advice I have for running backs with NFL aspirations is remain consistent with what you're doing. Stay in the weight room consistently. Constantly work on your lower body. Power, strength and flexibility. A lot of young football players overlook that flexibility is an important part of being a successfull athlete. And it really does help where running is concerned and injury prevention as well. Be focused, disciplined and consistent.

Q: WHAT IS YOUR NUTRITION AND DIET LIKE?

A: For me I'm trying to maintain my weight. After workouts in the morning, I'll eat a healthy lunch. Carbs, meats, vegetables, all that in one. Prior to that I'll have a protein shake as well to get the extra calories in there. I'll have an afternoon snack, sometimes a protein bar or shake. For dinner I'll have another big meal. Then a bed time snack. I'm pretty much eating all day just to maintain my weight.

 
Noah Davis said:
He will go with the 1st pick in my 4 year rookie contract salary cap league. I've got the 1.02 pick and I've been talking him up to the 1.01 a needy RB team....I've talked him up to the TN homer who is trying to trade Eddie Lacy for the 1.01 and 3.01 pick to ensure I have a fall back plan.

I'm doing all of this so that Watkins falls to 1.02. With McCoy, Ball, Vereen and Miller I'm set at RB - but Watkins would be the feather in my cap.
You play with infants.

 
Tennessee Titans: Bishop Sankey, Washington RB — Sankey is the only rookie back with a realistic chance to start this year. While he wasn’t the most highly touted back going into the draft, the Titans made him the first back selected him. The only back standing in his way for a starting job is Shonn Greene, who averaged a poor 3.84 yards per carry over his last two seasons and was injured during minicamp. Sankey’s role could be very similar to what Giovanni Bernard’s role was last season, and it figures to be a fantasy relevant role. Don’t forget that the Titans offensive line is one of the best run-blocking units in the league, and the addition of Taylor Lewan can only help. Sankey has the talent, a history of production and the opportunity to be a great flex option this season. He and Sammy Watkins should be the first rookies off the board in fantasy drafts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/23/sports/football/fantasy-football-analyzing-nfl-draft-picks-part-4.html?_r=0

 
2014 NFL Draft: Bishop Sankey Scouting Report

Part 2 of the 2014 draft class scouting report series.

Player name: Bishop Sankey

H/W: 5'9 209

Position: RB

School/Class: Washington/Junior

Measureables: 4.49 40, 26 bench reps, 126" broad jump, 6.75 3 cone drill

The Tape

Sankey vs Cal 2013

Sankey vs Arizona 2013

Sankey vs Oregon 2013

Pros:

Vision - Sankey has above average vision which helps make up for his perceived lack of athleticism. He quickly identifies the hole and takes off. He also has a low center of gravity which allows for sliding in the box and avoiding big hits.

Athleticism - He has a sudden burst about him once he identifies the hole and goes through the tackle box. Impressive agility and a good set of moves to elude potential tacklers. Tree trunk legs in the mold of a Michael Turner keeps the pile moving after initial contact. Knows how and when to utilize jump cuts to keep going or to go down to avoid the huge collisions.

Consistent big gamer - Sankey had great games against the vaunted defenses of the Pac-12. Went off against Stanford's much ballyhooed defense to a tune of 269 yards and two touchdowns in two years. Ran over Oregon's defense with 167 yards and two touchdowns. Broke 200 yards three times and scored in every game.

Cons:

Workload - While proving to be a durable workhorse for the inept and horrible Huskies offense, he racked up a lot of touches (650+) over the past two years. The crazy amount of work makes me wonder how much he has in the tank.

Additional notes:

It's downright criminal negligence by the Huskies for giving Sankey that many touches in two years. They have struggled to recapture the consistency of a perennial conference contender of years gone by. Sankey is a high character and disciplined person, having grown up in a military family. Not a bad word could be said about him by anyone.

Summary:

I really like this pick but it surprised me that he was the first back chosen. I believe that Sankey has the potential to be the best back in this class because of his versatility. Tre Mason comes from a gimmick spread offense and is the LaMichael James of 2014. Carlos Hyde has off the field issues and has to shake the Big 10's poor history of running backs in the NFL (I don't think he can do it). The one thing I do worry about is his workload in college. How much does he have left on the tires? Can he carry the show in the event that Shonn Greene cannot recover in time from offseason knee surgery? Sankey reminds me of shorter LaDanian Tomlinson. If he can have even half the career that LT 2.0 had, I'd call that a major success.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2014/5/22/5730360/2014-nfl-draft-bishop-sankey-scouting-report

 
Huskies RB Sankey is 'second coming of Emmitt Smith'
I need to bump that 'Mark Ingram HOF' thread.
Just to be clear that comparison is the opinion of Dave Thomas not mine.

Dave-Te’ Thomas is a sports writer, talent evaluator and scouting personnel consultant for a majority of teams in the National Football League. Thomas also coordinates scouting services for Major League Baseball, National Hockey League and National Basketball Association organizations.

Dave-Te’ runs a scouting information service called NFL Scouting Services and produces THE NFL Draft Report, a publication provided by league headquarters to the media in preparation for the NFL Draft. As a teenager, Dave-Te’ was contracted by several NFL teams to assist their scouting departments on the nation’s top gridiron stars. Soon, other teams began requesting his services, thus the start of his scouting service. After serving in the United States Football League as a scouting information consultant, Dave-Te’ returned to the NFL circles, serving in a personnel consulting capacity since 1984.

Known for his “shoot first, but know where to aim” style, Dave-Te’ has co-hosted several shows including:

• Sports Channel’s NewSportsTalk with Chet Coppock

• ESPN Fiesta Bowl College Gameday Show with Kevin Ray and Beano Cook

• ESPN’s KMOX-St. Louis

• The Football Network

• Cox Cable’s NFL Draft Report along with Paul Crane.

• Versus Network’s Countdown to the NFL Draft, Countdown to the NBA Draft, Countdown to the BSC Championship Game and Countdown to the NCAA Final Four Shows

Dave-Te’ has served on the selection committee for the following Bowls:

• Kelly Tire Blue-Gray Game

• Martin Luther King Classic

• Original All-American Classic

• Hula Bowl

His abilities as a writer led him to produce the NFL’s draft and preseason reports (over 3,000-page tome) yearly since 1983. He is editor of The NFL Draft Report, NFL Report, The Poor Man’s Guide to College Football and The NBA Report. Dave-Te’ also serves as a sports writer, with works featured in over 100 college media guides (College & Pro Football Newsweekly, Associated Press, Giants Weekly, New York Daily News, Atlanta-Journal Constitution, San Jose Bee, San Francisco Chronicle).

His extensive football material is used by all the major networks covering college football and his sports content is provided throughout the sports industry through the internet’s premier sports content house, The Sports Xchange. His reports are presently featured on CBSsportsline.com, USA Today, Fox Sports, USA Today’s Sports Weekly, and NFL.com and the premier draft web site in the industry, aptly called NFLDraftScout.com. http://bleacherreport.com/users/153363-dave-te-thomas
I do not know what peoples opinions are of him as a evaluator. Just sharing his point of view. I do think comparing any player to a HOF is a bit sensational.

 
Yeah I just re-watched that game and it made me want to draft him #1 overall.

Things I noticed

Made people miss in space - check (I mean he broke defenders ankles bad on two separate occasions)

Ran well between the tackles - check

Showed good hands catching - check

Showed homerun speed - check

Got yards after contact - check (side note I also saw him go down easy a couple of times so that's 50/50)

Got skinny in the hole - check ( I personally think he excels at this because I've seen on several occasions where he doesn't need a lot of room to break big inside runs.)

In that game Sankey reminded me of a stronger Gio. He looked great.
I agree with most of it tbh, I'm not as down on him as you might think. I just don't think he will be a full time player in the NFL. When he has a clearly open hole, he can hit it with speed and decisiveness, which we see a couple of times. He also can break arm tackles when going through the hole. I've just seen a lot of plays where he can't find the hole or it is collapsing on him and he either takes it to the outside or gets tackled in the backfield. Taking it outside does not work as well in the NFL as it does in college. He also does not absorb tackles as well as other running backs, like you said he often goes down easy and this happens a lot more often than you think. He will have to run decisively through the middle, even when the hole isn't large or it is collapsing on him, to be full-time running back at the NFL level. Furthering my point, there is a sequence where he gets 3 tries at the goalline and can't punch it through.

I can buy the Gio Bernard comparison though. Him being a 1b to a 1a running back is possible.

 
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Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron

 
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Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.

 
Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
Same here but difference for me was I was pick 3 and knew I'd be eyeballing this decision for the past two weeks. Lost count of how many times I changed my mind. After weeks of mulling it over I still could decide when I was on the clock.

I ended up going with need as well and went Sankey. TE is also a need on that team but difference between the two is I trust a rookie RB to fill a need and more than a rookie TE. Also had faint hope Ebron would make it to 6 but he went next.

I did select Ebron at pick 4 in another league when Sankey was gone so I'm pulling for both of them to do well but I'm still second guessing passing on Ebron. I actually had Sankey as my #2 rated RB before the NFL draft That's more a reflection of how bad the RB class was to me then how much I liked Sankey.

One thing I keep telling myself is last years class did not look very special either when they came out and now they dominate top 10 dynasty RB lists.

 
Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.
Well, if a TE gets 70-80 catches, that extra 35-40 points for the 1.5 league is HUGE!!! Pretty drastic change in rankings.

In standard leagues to me Ebron is a very late 1st.

In 1.5 I wouldnt fault someone for taking him with the #1 pick.

 
I had thought I was the biggest Sankey fanboy on here. But Brewtown, Sankey might not even have been the most talented RB on his own team last season. ;-)

 
I had thought I was the biggest Sankey fanboy on here. But Brewtown, Sankey might not even have been the most talented RB on his own team last season. ;-)
I suppose that is possible - he did have 20 TDs and set all kinds of school records...

I am so looking forward to seeing him hit the field this season. We are either going to hear three things after Sankey has a game where he rushes for 200 yards and two touchdowns:

1) crickets

2) irrational justification of a doubters original position that he is not talented and is pedestrian

3) people calling me a troll or a blowhard

I can't wait to be part of that discussion. I am more confident in Sankey's ability to succeed in the NFL than I was in LeSean McCoy the year he was drafted. Sankey is a dynamic, athletic, and very talented runner. I think that he has a very high floor as well as a high ceiling.

Next week I am drafting him 1.1 in a start 2 RB, 3 WR league (no flex) where I only own Justin Hunter as a legitimate starting option.

WRs are like golf tees for me. There are always a bunch in my bag and I can always find one lying around the tee box.

I say don't listen to the Sankey detractors here (there are a lot of them). Draft him at 1.1 with confidence and you'll be better off for it. Unless of course you play in some sort of non-standard format that only starts 1RB, various flexes, 4-5 WRs. Then I could see going Watkins/Evans ahead of Sankey...

 
Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.
#6

 
Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.
#6
I drafted him at 1.03 in one league and traded Gerhart / mid 2015 1st rounder for him (Start 2 to 3 RB, 16 teams)

 
Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.
Well, if a TE gets 70-80 catches, that extra 35-40 points for the 1.5 league is HUGE!!! Pretty drastic change in rankings.

In standard leagues to me Ebron is a very late 1st.

In 1.5 I wouldnt fault someone for taking him with the #1 pick.
It's only huge if you're thinking in terms of a flex spot.

 
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Anddddddddddddddddddd Sankey was there for me at pick 4 (Watkins-Evans-Cooks........1.5 PPR for TE, surprised Cooks went before Ebron).

He better be good. Went with "need", which I almost never do. Preferred EBron
1.5 ppr fro TEs id have gone Ebron and i like Sankey.
Where would you have Ebron in a standard PPR if you like Ebron over Sankey in the 1.5 version? Not that I disagree, just curious how much of a bump you are giving for 1.5ppr.
Well, if a TE gets 70-80 catches, that extra 35-40 points for the 1.5 league is HUGE!!! Pretty drastic change in rankings.

In standard leagues to me Ebron is a very late 1st.

In 1.5 I wouldnt fault someone for taking him with the #1 pick.
It's only huge if you're thinking in terms of a flex spot.
That's what she said.

 
He will go with the 1st pick in my 4 year rookie contract salary cap league. I've got the 1.02 pick and I've been talking him up to the 1.01 a needy RB team....I've talked him up to the TN homer who is trying to trade Eddie Lacy for the 1.01 and 3.01 pick to ensure I have a fall back plan.

I'm doing all of this so that Watkins falls to 1.02. With McCoy, Ball, Vereen and Miller I'm set at RB - but Watkins would be the feather in my cap.
You play with infants
Are you calling me a pedophile??

 
Shonn Greene on the bubble with Tennessee Titans?

Is Shonn Greene fighting for his roster spot with the Titans?

Plugged-in beat writer Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean noted Monday that the veteran running back could find himself the odd man out even after the team parted ways with Chris Johnson.

It's far from an outrageous notion. Especially with Greene coming off two right knee surgeries over nine months and set to make $2.3 million this season. Cutting the sixth-year runner would shave roughly $1.7 million off Tennessee's salary cap.

New coach Ken Whisenhunt watched last year's game film and promptly cited running back as a draft need before using the No. 54 overall pick on Washington's Bishop Sankey, who Gregg Rosenthal expects to be the "centerpiece of the backfield."

Whisenhunt also mined the open market to sign former Chiefs jitterbug Dexter McCluster, who figures to serve as Tennessee's version of Danny Woodhead. Whiz used a combination of Woodhead and Ryan Mathews to account for more 80 percent of San Diego's carries last season.

If Greene projects as little more than a short-yardage hammer behind Sankey and McCluster, his price tag and injury history might not sit well with the Titans. As Wyatt noted, "stranger things have happened."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353305/article/shonn-greene-on-the-bubble-in-tennessee

 
Shonn Greene on the bubble with Tennessee Titans?

Is Shonn Greene fighting for his roster spot with the Titans?

Plugged-in beat writer Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean noted Monday that the veteran running back could find himself the odd man out even after the team parted ways with Chris Johnson.

It's far from an outrageous notion. Especially with Greene coming off two right knee surgeries over nine months and set to make $2.3 million this season. Cutting the sixth-year runner would shave roughly $1.7 million off Tennessee's salary cap.

New coach Ken Whisenhunt watched last year's game film and promptly cited running back as a draft need before using the No. 54 overall pick on Washington's Bishop Sankey, who Gregg Rosenthal expects to be the "centerpiece of the backfield."

Whisenhunt also mined the open market to sign former Chiefs jitterbug Dexter McCluster, who figures to serve as Tennessee's version of Danny Woodhead. Whiz used a combination of Woodhead and Ryan Mathews to account for more 80 percent of San Diego's carries last season.

If Greene projects as little more than a short-yardage hammer behind Sankey and McCluster, his price tag and injury history might not sit well with the Titans. As Wyatt noted, "stranger things have happened."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353305/article/shonn-greene-on-the-bubble-in-tennessee
Ha. See post #471

 
Shonn Greene on the bubble with Tennessee Titans?

Is Shonn Greene fighting for his roster spot with the Titans?

Plugged-in beat writer Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean noted Monday that the veteran running back could find himself the odd man out even after the team parted ways with Chris Johnson.

It's far from an outrageous notion. Especially with Greene coming off two right knee surgeries over nine months and set to make $2.3 million this season. Cutting the sixth-year runner would shave roughly $1.7 million off Tennessee's salary cap.

New coach Ken Whisenhunt watched last year's game film and promptly cited running back as a draft need before using the No. 54 overall pick on Washington's Bishop Sankey, who Gregg Rosenthal expects to be the "centerpiece of the backfield."

Whisenhunt also mined the open market to sign former Chiefs jitterbug Dexter McCluster, who figures to serve as Tennessee's version of Danny Woodhead. Whiz used a combination of Woodhead and Ryan Mathews to account for more 80 percent of San Diego's carries last season.

If Greene projects as little more than a short-yardage hammer behind Sankey and McCluster, his price tag and injury history might not sit well with the Titans. As Wyatt noted, "stranger things have happened."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353305/article/shonn-greene-on-the-bubble-in-tennessee
From rotoworld:

Shonn Greene - RB - Titans

The Tennessean believes Shonn Greene's roster spot is not 100 percent safe.

Beat writer Jim Wyatt emphasizes that he's heard no buzz Greene could be cut, but allows the possibility. He's scheduled to earn $2.3 million this season, is coming off a 3.83 YPC season and has undergone two right knee surgeries in the last nine months. Still, the Titans' other "big back" option to complement Bishop Sankey is Jackie Battle. Greene will be given every opportunity to handle the short-yardage work.

Source: Nashville Tennessean May 26 - 11:07 AM
If you're so certain of your assessment, why do you feel the need to reach so far to confirm your opinion? There is absolutely nothing to hang this little blurb on other than a sportswriter randomly speculating.

 
Bronco Billy said:
Brewtown said:
Shonn Greene on the bubble with Tennessee Titans?

Is Shonn Greene fighting for his roster spot with the Titans?

Plugged-in beat writer Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean noted Monday that the veteran running back could find himself the odd man out even after the team parted ways with Chris Johnson.

It's far from an outrageous notion. Especially with Greene coming off two right knee surgeries over nine months and set to make $2.3 million this season. Cutting the sixth-year runner would shave roughly $1.7 million off Tennessee's salary cap.

New coach Ken Whisenhunt watched last year's game film and promptly cited running back as a draft need before using the No. 54 overall pick on Washington's Bishop Sankey, who Gregg Rosenthal expects to be the "centerpiece of the backfield."

Whisenhunt also mined the open market to sign former Chiefs jitterbug Dexter McCluster, who figures to serve as Tennessee's version of Danny Woodhead. Whiz used a combination of Woodhead and Ryan Mathews to account for more 80 percent of San Diego's carries last season.

If Greene projects as little more than a short-yardage hammer behind Sankey and McCluster, his price tag and injury history might not sit well with the Titans. As Wyatt noted, "stranger things have happened."http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353305/article/shonn-greene-on-the-bubble-in-tennessee
From rotoworld:

Shonn Greene - RB - Titans

The Tennessean believes Shonn Greene's roster spot is not 100 percent safe.Beat writer Jim Wyatt emphasizes that he's heard no buzz Greene could be cut, but allows the possibility. He's scheduled to earn $2.3 million this season, is coming off a 3.83 YPC season and has undergone two right knee surgeries in the last nine months. Still, the Titans' other "big back" option to complement Bishop Sankey is Jackie Battle. Greene will be given every opportunity to handle the short-yardage work.

Source: Nashville Tennessean May 26 - 11:07 AM
If you're so certain of your assessment, why do you feel the need to reach so far to confirm your opinion? There is absolutely nothing to hang this little blurb on other than a sportswriter randomly speculating.
I'm not worried about Shonn Greene - and I'm not trying to confirm my opinion. I'm simply trying to inform - like Faust.

Man - you like to argue don't you...

 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.

 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.
In most leagues, the rookie draft is not the only market for acquiring players.
 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.
Textbook definition of drafting situation over talent.

 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.
Textbook definition of drafting situation over talent.
Some factors are out of our control. Unless you talent is somewhere in the Calvin Johnson stratosphere, situation is almost everything in FF.
 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.
Textbook definition of drafting situation over talent.
Some factors are out of our control. Unless you talent is somewhere in the Calvin Johnson stratosphere, situation is almost everything in FF.
1.01 is stretching it.

 
I don't get the bias aginst Sankey. 'Sharks' are making this play, but I figured 'average joe' would catch on eventually and he'd challenge Watkins for 1.01 in rookie drafts. If I missed out on Watkins there is like 3-5+ WR I'd feel good about. If I miss out out on Sankey there is no other rookie RBs who's talent/situation could possibly lead to 15+ touches out the gate. That's the textbook definition of scarcity.
Textbook definition of drafting situation over talent.
Some factors are out of our control. Unless you talent is somewhere in the Calvin Johnson stratosphere, situation is almost everything in FF.
1.01 is stretching it.
Supply & demand
 
I think Watkins and Evans are more likely to be WR1s in the future than Bishop Sankey will be an RB1. I mentioned many times why; He does

not look great when running up the middle.

 
I think he looks great running between the tackles. I don't think he finishes runs very well sometimes but he knows how to get skinny in the hole.

 
I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

 
I think he looks great running between the tackles. I don't think he finishes runs very well sometimes but he knows how to get skinny in the hole.
He is a find the first hole, cut straight through as fast as possible guy with not a lot of vision, creativity or hard to bring down-ness. Overall he could be decent with good blocking and good running schemes but you could say that about many RBs in the NFL.

Read http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/04/02/futures-rb-bishop-sankey/ for more details. Looking at his tape confirmed what is written there.

 
I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...
Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

 
I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...
Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?
Do RBs get bonus points for breathing? :) 10 pts per rushing yard, 100 pts per rushing TD?

I've been in four drafts (all IDP, but that doesn't impact the first 20 picks much), haven't been in any where three RBs go in the first four picks.

None where Watkins goes as low as 1.3, Mason as high as 1.4, Evans as low as 1.5, Hill as high as 1.7, West as high as 1.10, Beckham, Benjamin and Adams as low as 1.15 (!!!), 1.16 and 1.17, McKinnon as high as 1.18. I've been in some where Blue wasn't drafted in 8 rounds (14 teams).

 
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I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...
Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?
Do RBs get bonus points for breathing? :)

10 pts per rushing yard, 100 pts per rising TD?

I've been in four drafts (all IDP, but that doesn't impact the first 20 picks much), haven't been in any where three RBs go in the first four picks.

None where Watkins goes as low as 1.3, Mason as high as 1.4, Evans as low as 1.5, Hill as high as 1.7, West as high as 1.10, Beckham, Benjamin and Adams as low as 1.15 (!!!), 1.16 and 1.17, McKinnon as high as 1.18. I've been in some where Blue wasn't drafted in 8 rounds (14 teams).
McKinnon and Lee shouldn't have gone that high - I agree. Also, Beckham really fell, but there is a lot of great talent in this draft. Folks just like a few other folks ahead of him. RBs have always been at a premium in this league. WRs are always easier to find and RBs tough to find.

I was thrilled to get my top 3 RBs and Evans. I liked all three of the RBs ahead of the WR talent.

I think Sankey at 1.1 is going to happen more than you think.

 

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