Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (1 Viewer)

[ShaHBucks]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

Do RBs get bonus points for breathing? 10 pts per rushing yard, 100 pts per rising TD?

I've been in four drafts (all IDP, but that doesn't impact the first 20 picks much), haven't been in any where three RBs go in the first four picks.

None where Watkins goes as low as 1.3, Mason as high as 1.4, Evans as low as 1.5, Hill as high as 1.7, West as high as 1.10, Beckham, Benjamin and Adams as low as 1.15 (!!!), 1.16 and 1.17, McKinnon as high as 1.18. I've been in some where Blue wasn't drafted in 8 rounds (14 teams).

McKinnon and Lee shouldn't have gone that high - I agree. Also, Beckham really fell, but there is a lot of great talent in this draft. Folks just like a few other folks ahead of him. RBs have always been at a premium in this league. WRs are always easier to find and RBs tough to find.I was thrilled to get my top 3 RBs and Evans. I liked all three of the RBs ahead of the WR talent.

I think Sankey at 1.1 is going to happen more than you think.

I'll make a deposit today*lmao @ Bob

 

[Bronco Billy]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

Do RBs get bonus points for breathing? 10 pts per rushing yard, 100 pts per rising TD?

I've been in four drafts (all IDP, but that doesn't impact the first 20 picks much), haven't been in any where three RBs go in the first four picks.

None where Watkins goes as low as 1.3, Mason as high as 1.4, Evans as low as 1.5, Hill as high as 1.7, West as high as 1.10, Beckham, Benjamin and Adams as low as 1.15 (!!!), 1.16 and 1.17, McKinnon as high as 1.18. I've been in some where Blue wasn't drafted in 8 rounds (14 teams).

And at least one of those leagues awards points for rushing attempts.

 

[Bri]

Shonn Greene on the bubble with Tennessee Titans?

Is Shonn Greene fighting for his roster spot with the Titans?

Plugged-in beat writer Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean noted Monday that the veteran running back could find himself the odd man out even after the team parted ways with Chris Johnson.

It's far from an outrageous notion. Especially with Greene coming off two right knee surgeries over nine months and set to make $2.3 million this season. Cutting the sixth-year runner would shave roughly $1.7 million off Tennessee's salary cap.

New coach Ken Whisenhunt watched last year's game film and promptly cited running back as a draft need before using the No. 54 overall pick on Washington's Bishop Sankey, who Gregg Rosenthal expects to be the "centerpiece of the backfield."

Whisenhunt also mined the open market to sign former Chiefs jitterbug Dexter McCluster, who figures to serve as Tennessee's version of Danny Woodhead. Whiz used a combination of Woodhead and Ryan Mathews to account for more 80 percent of San Diego's carries last season.

If Greene projects as little more than a short-yardage hammer behind Sankey and McCluster, his price tag and injury history might not sit well with the Titans. As Wyatt noted, "stranger things have happened."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000353305/article/shonn-greene-on-the-bubble-in-tennessee

From rotoworld:

Shonn Greene - RB - Titans

The Tennessean believes Shonn Greene's roster spot is not 100 percent safe.

Beat writer Jim Wyatt emphasizes that he's heard no buzz Greene could be cut, but allows the possibility. He's scheduled to earn $2.3 million this season, is coming off a 3.83 YPC season and has undergone two right knee surgeries in the last nine months. Still, the Titans' other "big back" option to complement Bishop Sankey is Jackie Battle. Greene will be given every opportunity to handle the short-yardage work.

Source: Nashville Tennessean May 26 - 11:07 AM

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

 

[Bri]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

you have five of these picks.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

That's such an odd mentality. Battle is going into his 8th year in the league, is with his 3rd team, and two of those teams - SD and KC - both handed him enough workload in short yardage to see what he is capable of and then cut the year immediately following. Greene missed 5 games last year, and before that missed a grand total of 3 games in the previous 4 seasons combined. He averages a full 14% greater productivity than Battle while being also used in short yardage. While his ypc isn't glorious and his running style isn't sexy, there's a lot to be said for a hammer who averages 4.1 ypc who has proven he can handle a solid workload. While not sexy, those kinds of guys are chains-movers who keep their QB out of 2nd/3rd and long situations.

It's so peculiar given their resumes to date that anyone would submit Battle is a superior short yardage guy to Greene, or that Greene is an expendable luxury on his team. The guy is not the one who you want for your bellcow, but as a 1b masher he looks pretty ideal as well as NFL proven to me. The irrational dislike of Greene is something I've never figured out. He is what he has always been - a short yardage no-nonsense runner who will never give you the 80 run to daylight. But that kind of guy is a very valuable commodity in the NFL, especially with the trend to multiple back backfields. It's also odd that guys think Sankey will simply push a proven guy like Greene to the bench when we haven't seen how Sankey's skills translate to the NFL yet and we have seen some holes in his game even at the college level.

ETA in response to the Greene Could Be Cut article - that "logjam" at RB in TEN includes McCluster and Leon Washington. The only power backs on the roster are Greene and Battle. Not sure given that McCluster is there that the team cuts Greene and keeps both Battle and Washington. The cap situation is that TEN would save Greene's $2.3M salary but would absorb $1.67M in accelerated bonus. That's a difference of $0.63M savings against the cap, but the bonus could be split over two years if Greene is cut post-June 2nd (but I think that provides him an additional $100K workout bonus). As far as I can tell, TEN is currently a little less that $2M under the cap with their rookies signed. I'm not seeing an urgency or cap critical situation that would be resolved by cutting Greene.

It could happen, but I'd guess the odds are much higher that TEN will remain in love with the Thunder & Lightning type of backfield given the passing game they have.

 

[Bri]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

That's such an odd mentality. Battle is going into his 8th year in the league, is with his 3rd team, and two of those teams - SD and KC - both handed him enough workload in short yardage to see what he is capable of and then cut the year immediately following.Greene missed 5 games last year, and before that missed a grand total of 3 games in the previous 4 seasons combined. He averages a full 14% greater productivity than Battle while being also used in short yardage. While his ypc isn't glorious and his running style isn't sexy, there's a lot to be said for a hammer who averages 4.1 ypc who has proven he can handle a solid workload. While not sexy, those kinds of guys are chains-movers who keep their QB out of 2nd/3rd and long situations.

It's so peculiar given their resumes to date that anyone would submit Battle is a superior short yardage guy to Greene, or that Greene is an expendable luxury on his team. The guy is not the one who you want for your bellcow, but as a 1b masher he looks pretty ideal as well as NFL proven to me. The irrational dislike of Greene is something I've never figured out. He is what he has always been - a short yardage no-nonsense runner who will never give you the 80 run to daylight. But that kind of guy is a very valuable commodity in the NFL, especially with the trend to multiple back backfields. It's also odd that guys think Sankey will simply push a proven guy like Greene to the bench when we haven't seen how Sankey's skills translate to the NFL yet and we have seen some holes in his game even at the college level.

ETA in response to the Greene Could Be Cut article - that "logjam" at RB in TEN includes McCluster and Leon Washington. The only power backs on the roster are Greene and Battle. Not sure given that McCluster is there that the team cuts Greene and keeps both Battle and Washington. The cap situation is that TEN would save Greene's $2.3M salary but would absorb $1.67M in accelerated bonus. That's a difference of $0.63M savings against the cap, but the bonus could be split over two years if Greene is cut post-June 2nd (but I think that provides him an additional $100K workout bonus). As far as I can tell, TEN is currently a little less that $2M under the cap with their rookies signed. I'm not seeing an urgency or cap critical situation that would be resolved by cutting Greene.

It could happen, but I'd guess the odds are much higher that TEN will remain in love with the Thunder & Lightning type of backfield given the passing game they have.

I really didn't like Greene at all last year.

They weren't supposed to need Sankey. They signed Greene from NYJ with plans for him.

He got hurt and I'm all about forgetting that but he's out right now.

This follows the very frustrating CJ who runs into 20 brick walls then breaks one on his 21st run.

Battle was probably a camp guy that made the team and did OK in a limited role.

I just don't want to be frustrated by RBs anymore and am bitter somewhat hypersensitive.

Leon likely won't make the team now that Mariani is healthy.

I could imagine their final roster as 3WR, McCluster, four RBs, and Mariani as return guy.

There is nothing behind these guys.

I have huge hopes for an UDFA to pan out or some veteran to join, but I think the most realistic hope is for Mariani to play some WR.

This is just not a team with deep camp battles at these skill positions like most teams have. It's more what ya see is what ya get

 

[Brewtown]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

That's such an odd mentality. Battle is going into his 8th year in the league, is with his 3rd team, and two of those teams - SD and KC - both handed him enough workload in short yardage to see what he is capable of and then cut the year immediately following.Greene missed 5 games last year, and before that missed a grand total of 3 games in the previous 4 seasons combined. He averages a full 14% greater productivity than Battle while being also used in short yardage. While his ypc isn't glorious and his running style isn't sexy, there's a lot to be said for a hammer who averages 4.1 ypc who has proven he can handle a solid workload. While not sexy, those kinds of guys are chains-movers who keep their QB out of 2nd/3rd and long situations.

It's so peculiar given their resumes to date that anyone would submit Battle is a superior short yardage guy to Greene, or that Greene is an expendable luxury on his team. The guy is not the one who you want for your bellcow, but as a 1b masher he looks pretty ideal as well as NFL proven to me. The irrational dislike of Greene is something I've never figured out. He is what he has always been - a short yardage no-nonsense runner who will never give you the 80 run to daylight. But that kind of guy is a very valuable commodity in the NFL, especially with the trend to multiple back backfields. It's also odd that guys think Sankey will simply push a proven guy like Greene to the bench when we haven't seen how Sankey's skills translate to the NFL yet and we have seen some holes in his game even at the college level.

ETA in response to the Greene Could Be Cut article - that "logjam" at RB in TEN includes McCluster and Leon Washington. The only power backs on the roster are Greene and Battle. Not sure given that McCluster is there that the team cuts Greene and keeps both Battle and Washington. The cap situation is that TEN would save Greene's $2.3M salary but would absorb $1.67M in accelerated bonus. That's a difference of $0.63M savings against the cap, but the bonus could be split over two years if Greene is cut post-June 2nd (but I think that provides him an additional $100K workout bonus). As far as I can tell, TEN is currently a little less that $2M under the cap with their rookies signed. I'm not seeing an urgency or cap critical situation that would be resolved by cutting Greene.

It could happen, but I'd guess the odds are much higher that TEN will remain in love with the Thunder & Lightning type of backfield given the passing game they have.

I really didn't like Greene at all last year. They weren't supposed to need Sankey. They signed Greene from NYJ with plans for him.

He got hurt and I'm all about forgetting that but he's out right now.

This follows the very frustrating CJ who runs into 20 brick walls then breaks one on his 21st run.

Battle was probably a camp guy that made the team and did OK in a limited role.

I just don't want to be frustrated by RBs anymore and am bitter somewhat hypersensitive.

Leon likely won't make the team now that Mariani is healthy.

I could imagine their final roster as 3WR, McCluster, four RBs, and Mariani as return guy.

There is nothing behind these guys.

I have huge hopes for an UDFA to pan out or some veteran to join, but I think the most realistic hope is for Mariani to play some WR.

This is just not a team with deep camp battles at these skill positions like most teams have. It's more what ya see is what ya get

What are you talking about? This is a thread about the 1st RB selected in the 2014 NFL Draft...

 

[Brewtown]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

That's such an odd mentality. Battle is going into his 8th year in the league, is with his 3rd team, and two of those teams - SD and KC - both handed him enough workload in short yardage to see what he is capable of and then cut the year immediately following.Greene missed 5 games last year, and before that missed a grand total of 3 games in the previous 4 seasons combined. He averages a full 14% greater productivity than Battle while being also used in short yardage. While his ypc isn't glorious and his running style isn't sexy, there's a lot to be said for a hammer who averages 4.1 ypc who has proven he can handle a solid workload. While not sexy, those kinds of guys are chains-movers who keep their QB out of 2nd/3rd and long situations.

It's so peculiar given their resumes to date that anyone would submit Battle is a superior short yardage guy to Greene, or that Greene is an expendable luxury on his team. The guy is not the one who you want for your bellcow, but as a 1b masher he looks pretty ideal as well as NFL proven to me. The irrational dislike of Greene is something I've never figured out. He is what he has always been - a short yardage no-nonsense runner who will never give you the 80 run to daylight. But that kind of guy is a very valuable commodity in the NFL, especially with the trend to multiple back backfields. It's also odd that guys think Sankey will simply push a proven guy like Greene to the bench when we haven't seen how Sankey's skills translate to the NFL yet and we have seen some holes in his game even at the college level.

ETA in response to the Greene Could Be Cut article - that "logjam" at RB in TEN includes McCluster and Leon Washington. The only power backs on the roster are Greene and Battle. Not sure given that McCluster is there that the team cuts Greene and keeps both Battle and Washington. The cap situation is that TEN would save Greene's $2.3M salary but would absorb $1.67M in accelerated bonus. That's a difference of $0.63M savings against the cap, but the bonus could be split over two years if Greene is cut post-June 2nd (but I think that provides him an additional $100K workout bonus). As far as I can tell, TEN is currently a little less that $2M under the cap with their rookies signed. I'm not seeing an urgency or cap critical situation that would be resolved by cutting Greene.

It could happen, but I'd guess the odds are much higher that TEN will remain in love with the Thunder & Lightning type of backfield given the passing game they have.

I really didn't like Greene at all last year. They weren't supposed to need Sankey. They signed Greene from NYJ with plans for him.

He got hurt and I'm all about forgetting that but he's out right now.

This follows the very frustrating CJ who runs into 20 brick walls then breaks one on his 21st run.

Battle was probably a camp guy that made the team and did OK in a limited role.

I just don't want to be frustrated by RBs anymore and am bitter somewhat hypersensitive.

Leon likely won't make the team now that Mariani is healthy.

I could imagine their final roster as 3WR, McCluster, four RBs, and Mariani as return guy.

There is nothing behind these guys.

I have huge hopes for an UDFA to pan out or some veteran to join, but I think the most realistic hope is for Mariani to play some WR.

This is just not a team with deep camp battles at these skill positions like most teams have. It's more what ya see is what ya get

What are you talking about? This is a thread about the 1st RB selected in the 2014 NFL Draft...

He's talking about the team on which said RB is playing. Definitely a pertinent topic in this thread.

Ok - if you say so...

 

[Bri]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

That's such an odd mentality. Battle is going into his 8th year in the league, is with his 3rd team, and two of those teams - SD and KC - both handed him enough workload in short yardage to see what he is capable of and then cut the year immediately following.Greene missed 5 games last year, and before that missed a grand total of 3 games in the previous 4 seasons combined. He averages a full 14% greater productivity than Battle while being also used in short yardage. While his ypc isn't glorious and his running style isn't sexy, there's a lot to be said for a hammer who averages 4.1 ypc who has proven he can handle a solid workload. While not sexy, those kinds of guys are chains-movers who keep their QB out of 2nd/3rd and long situations.

It's so peculiar given their resumes to date that anyone would submit Battle is a superior short yardage guy to Greene, or that Greene is an expendable luxury on his team. The guy is not the one who you want for your bellcow, but as a 1b masher he looks pretty ideal as well as NFL proven to me. The irrational dislike of Greene is something I've never figured out. He is what he has always been - a short yardage no-nonsense runner who will never give you the 80 run to daylight. But that kind of guy is a very valuable commodity in the NFL, especially with the trend to multiple back backfields. It's also odd that guys think Sankey will simply push a proven guy like Greene to the bench when we haven't seen how Sankey's skills translate to the NFL yet and we have seen some holes in his game even at the college level.

ETA in response to the Greene Could Be Cut article - that "logjam" at RB in TEN includes McCluster and Leon Washington. The only power backs on the roster are Greene and Battle. Not sure given that McCluster is there that the team cuts Greene and keeps both Battle and Washington. The cap situation is that TEN would save Greene's $2.3M salary but would absorb $1.67M in accelerated bonus. That's a difference of $0.63M savings against the cap, but the bonus could be split over two years if Greene is cut post-June 2nd (but I think that provides him an additional $100K workout bonus). As far as I can tell, TEN is currently a little less that $2M under the cap with their rookies signed. I'm not seeing an urgency or cap critical situation that would be resolved by cutting Greene.

It could happen, but I'd guess the odds are much higher that TEN will remain in love with the Thunder & Lightning type of backfield given the passing game they have.

I really didn't like Greene at all last year. They weren't supposed to need Sankey. They signed Greene from NYJ with plans for him.

He got hurt and I'm all about forgetting that but he's out right now.

This follows the very frustrating CJ who runs into 20 brick walls then breaks one on his 21st run.

Battle was probably a camp guy that made the team and did OK in a limited role.

I just don't want to be frustrated by RBs anymore and am bitter somewhat hypersensitive.

Leon likely won't make the team now that Mariani is healthy.

I could imagine their final roster as 3WR, McCluster, four RBs, and Mariani as return guy.

There is nothing behind these guys.

I have huge hopes for an UDFA to pan out or some veteran to join, but I think the most realistic hope is for Mariani to play some WR.

This is just not a team with deep camp battles at these skill positions like most teams have. It's more what ya see is what ya get

What are you talking about? This is a thread about the 1st RB selected in the 2014 NFL Draft...

sorry to talk about Sankey's team with bronco billy, post more about your draft so we can get back on topic

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

and Howard Stern-

I hope this is schtick - but based on many past comments of yours I've read, I'm guessing it isn't.

I am pretty sure that is John Lennon not Howard Stern in your avatar?

He doesn't know who Miles Davis is either...

Wait u mean that ISN'T John Cougar Meloncamp?

 

[ghostguy123]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

 

[Andrew74]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

 

[ghostguy123]

That's all you want to know??

 

[stp-d]

Brewtown that draft leads me to believe the settings are far off norm, or your competition is. I'd like to believe that Sankey is worth the #1 in some formats but this draft doesn't help me understand what those formats are.

 

[ghostguy123]

If you wanna make a case for sankey as the #1 pick in drafts, cool. I wouldn't take him there, but wouldn't bash someone for doing so.

But that draft above defies all logic no latter the format.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

If you wanna make a case for sankey as the #1 pick in drafts, cool. I wouldn't take him there, but wouldn't bash someone for doing so.

But that draft above defies all logic no latter the format.

What do you have against Alfred Blue?

 

[Brewtown]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

 

[identikit]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.

That changes things.

 

[identikit]

Thanks for the PM, Brewtown!

 

[Brewtown]

Thanks for the PM, Brewtown!

Thanks for your thoughtless comment buddy...

 

[nirad3]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

Cliff Notes version: I own Shonn Greene.

 

[nirad3]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.

That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Tre Mason what?

 

[rdrouyn]

Big Slick

Beaver Liquors

Tig Ol Bitties

Bros B4 Hoes

Jaeger Bombs

The Shocker

Slippery When Wet

Max Liquidate

Pokeher Face

Milwaukee River

are these team names for real?

lol! I guess the names explain a lot about the draft.

 

[jurb26]

Holy flash back. Now we're picking on guys for the leagues they play in. Thought we let that ship sink around here in 2006 or so.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

Cliff Notes version: I own Shonn Greene.

How does that change any of the facts I posted?

And yeah, I have Greene as RB depth on multiple rosters. If I feel a guy is going to have some FF impact, shouldn't I be rostering him? I play in deeper leagues and a RBBC RB has value. That's how I view Greene. I'm not counting on him to start for me barring multiple RB injuries or when forced to by byes.

Does that preclude me from discussing his value?

 

[Bronco Billy]

Holy flash back. Now we're picking on guys for the leagues they play in. Thought we let that ship sink around here in 2006 or so.

Agreed. I'm not sure how the draft progresses in an isolated league - or team names, for Pete's sake - makes any impact on the discussions. SQUIRREL!

 

[Mingooch]

league names like that are common, we have Gronky Punch, Luck be a Brady tonight, Cleveland Steamers, Hell Toupee, Reverse Cowgirls, and more in my one league and it is a quality league of people that know their football.

 

[Andrew74]

That's all you want to know??

Gotta start somewhere.

 

[Brewtown]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

 

[nirad3]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

Cliff Notes version: I own Shonn Greene.

How does that change any of the facts I posted?

And yeah, I have Greene as RB depth on multiple rosters. If I feel a guy is going to have some FF impact, shouldn't I be rostering him? I play in deeper leagues and a RBBC RB has value. That's how I view Greene. I'm not counting on him to start for me barring multiple RB injuries or when forced to by byes.

Does that preclude me from discussing his value?

Not at all. Was just yanking your chain. Look at my name... I mean... reeeeally look at it.

 

[nirad3]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

Welp, it's painfully obvious that I'm not the only one that feels that you may be playing with lesser competition.

Listen, I spend a LOT of time here and while I appreciate the amount of time you obviously put into your posts and I'm assuming the hobby in general.... I can't help but feel that some of what you post comes from some other universe.

That satisfy your curiosity?

 

[Brewtown]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

Welp, it's painfully obvious that I'm not the only one that feels that you may be playing with lesser competition.

Listen, I spend a LOT of time here and while I appreciate the amount of time you obviously put into your posts and I'm assuming the hobby in general.... I can't help but feel that some of what you post comes from some other universe.

That satisfy your curiosity?

I posted a draft of which I have responsibility for one team. The league has been around for 10 years with the same people who have have a pretty good idea what they are doing. Just because the draft doesn't perfectly follow the NFL draft order or football guys rookie rankings does not mean the league is full of idiots who don't know what they are doing. If Matt Waldman was in this league he would have selected Ka'Deem Carey in the first round and Kevin Norwood or Marion Grice in the second round (based on his rankings). That is a little outside the box - does that mean he is an idiot or considered less competition?? Or does it reflect someone projecting and drafting off of their own unique educated opinion?

All drafts are unique and selections are made based upon scoring system/league rules, team need, individual beliefs/risk tolerance, and personal preference.

Someone who "spends a lot of time here" and playing in this hobby should have a grasp on this. Thanks for your "outside of this universe" posting advice - I greatly appreciate it...

 

[Bronco Billy]

Battle is their best short yardage back and a fairly efficient hard-nosed type runner.

Greene has been hurt so often, I can't imagine the Titans thinking that's a good spot for him. They'd wind up cutting the guy that does it well for someone most fans would predict would wind up getting hurt in that role.

Cliff Notes version: I own Shonn Greene.

How does that change any of the facts I posted?And yeah, I have Greene as RB depth on multiple rosters. If I feel a guy is going to have some FF impact, shouldn't I be rostering him? I play in deeper leagues and a RBBC RB has value. That's how I view Greene. I'm not counting on him to start for me barring multiple RB injuries or when forced to by byes.

Does that preclude me from discussing his value?

Not at all. Was just yanking your chain. Look at my name... I mean... reeeeally look at it.

Well played. And clever

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

Welp, it's painfully obvious that I'm not the only one that feels that you may be playing with lesser competition.

Listen, I spend a LOT of time here and while I appreciate the amount of time you obviously put into your posts and I'm assuming the hobby in general.... I can't help but feel that some of what you post comes from some other universe.

That satisfy your curiosity?

I posted a draft of which I have responsibility for one team. The league has been around for 10 years with the same people who have have a pretty good idea what they are doing. Just because the draft doesn't perfectly follow the NFL draft order or football guys rookie rankings does not mean the league is full of idiots who don't know what they are doing. If Matt Waldman was in this league he would have selected Ka'Deem Carey in the first round and Kevin Norwood or Marion Grice in the second round (based on his rankings). That is a little outside the box - does that mean he is an idiot or considered less competition?? Or does it reflect someone projecting and drafting off of their own unique educated opinion?

All drafts are unique and selections are made based upon scoring system/league rules, team need, individual beliefs/risk tolerance, and personal preference.

Someone who "spends a lot of time here" and playing in this hobby should have a grasp on this. Thanks for your "outside of this universe" posting advice - I greatly appreciate it...

Honestly, although I did mention Blue in a tongue and cheek upthread, I tend to agree. In a rookie draft, I think the main thing is leaving the draft with the guys you want/like - even if you stray a bit from ADP. In the case of Blue, the second was likely too early and the guy probably could have waited until at least round 3 (I've seen him go 5th round or undrafted in my three drafts so far), but with the way RBs were flying off the board in the league, if the guy is really a big beleiver and thinks he was the BPA, why get cute and risk losing him?

I think ADP is much more important in a redraft league (where we kind of "know" what to expect from each player) than a rookie draft. Blue may have been a "bad" pick based on the guy losing some draft value, but if he goes onto becoming a star, who cares?

And yes I know the pitfalls in making an argument centering on "bad process, with good results", but I am trying to make the point that I'm not sure there is such a thing as "bad process" in a rookie draft, as long as the guy does the proper research and makes his own draft board and isn't just throwing darts. Who is to say the ADP is correct way to go in a system (rookie draft) where 50% of the picks are likely going to bust?

Even in the actuak NFL draft, Seattle was slammed the first two years of the new regime's drafts for "reaching", but now that we've seen that results have been there, they are now considered a model franchise when it comes to the draft.

 

[Louche]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

Welp, it's painfully obvious that I'm not the only one that feels that you may be playing with lesser competition.

Listen, I spend a LOT of time here and while I appreciate the amount of time you obviously put into your posts and I'm assuming the hobby in general.... I can't help but feel that some of what you post comes from some other universe.

That satisfy your curiosity?

I posted a draft of which I have responsibility for one team. The league has been around for 10 years with the same people who have have a pretty good idea what they are doing. Just because the draft doesn't perfectly follow the NFL draft order or football guys rookie rankings does not mean the league is full of idiots who don't know what they are doing. If Matt Waldman was in this league he would have selected Ka'Deem Carey in the first round and Kevin Norwood or Marion Grice in the second round (based on his rankings). That is a little outside the box - does that mean he is an idiot or considered less competition?? Or does it reflect someone projecting and drafting off of their own unique educated opinion?

All drafts are unique and selections are made based upon scoring system/league rules, team need, individual beliefs/risk tolerance, and personal preference.

Someone who "spends a lot of time here" and playing in this hobby should have a grasp on this. Thanks for your "outside of this universe" posting advice - I greatly appreciate it...

No. You're wrong. Even Waldman who is one of the biggest film guys and proponent of picking talent over situation and value does not recommend drafting guys two rounds earlier than their ADP. Go read his post draft RSP one more time. Why do you think he has all that ADP data in there? What Waldman does with the post draft RSP is to rank talent and situation based on his film study and compare it to ADP. He does not suggest to leave value on the table but he tries to show where to find value. You've misunderstood the purpose of the post draft RSP.

 

[nirad3]

I just drafted him #1 in a QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE (no flex league). The league is PPR for WR and TE only - not for RB. RBs get slightly more points per rushing yards and less for receiving yards. I was rebuilding this year and had a number of picks. My team name is Big Slick - I was pleased to get my top three RBs and a top two WR:

1: Big Slick: BISHOP SANKEY

2: Beaver Liquors: CARLOS HYDE

3: Tig Ol Bitties: SAMMY WATKINS

4: Big Slick: TRE MASON

5: Big Slick: MIKE EVANS

6: Beaver Liquors: ERIC EBRON

7: Big Slick: JEREMY HILL

8: Bros B4 Hoes: CODY LATIMER

9: Jaeger Bombs: BRANDIN COOKS

10:Tig Ol Bitties: TERRENCE WEST

11:The Shocker: TEDDY BRIDGEWATER

12:TRADE Slippery: JORDAN MATTHEWS

13: Slippery When Wet: JORDAN REED (Wash TE)

14: Beaver Liquors: DEVONTA FREEMAN

15: Tig Ol Bitties: ODELL BECKUM

16: Max Liquidate: KELVIN BENJAMIN

17: Pokeher Face: DAVONTE ADAMS

18: Milwaukee River: JERRICK MCKINNON

19: Bros B4 Hoes: MARTAVIAS BRYANT

20: Milwaukee River: ALFRED BLUE

21: Jaeger Bombs:

22: Pokeher Face:

23: Shocker:

24: Slippery When Wet:

25: Big Slick:

Some good players on the board still...

Can you put me on the waiting list if there is a opening Big Slick?

I want no part of that league. That draft has brain damage.

Is this a super shallow league? I want to know how Reed wasn't rostered.

He was intentionally dropped the last week of the season...

Oh, it was intentional.That changes things.

Brewtown.... the worst thing you coulda done for your cred around here was post that draft. I would have just confirmed "I drafted Sankey at 1.01" and left it at that.

And for full disclosure, I am a Sankey fan, having taken him 1.06 in league where you start 0-3 RBs.

I'm curious as to why you would say that?

Welp, it's painfully obvious that I'm not the only one that feels that you may be playing with lesser competition.

Listen, I spend a LOT of time here and while I appreciate the amount of time you obviously put into your posts and I'm assuming the hobby in general.... I can't help but feel that some of what you post comes from some other universe.

That satisfy your curiosity?

I posted a draft of which I have responsibility for one team. The league has been around for 10 years with the same people who have have a pretty good idea what they are doing. Just because the draft doesn't perfectly follow the NFL draft order or football guys rookie rankings does not mean the league is full of idiots who don't know what they are doing. If Matt Waldman was in this league he would have selected Ka'Deem Carey in the first round and Kevin Norwood or Marion Grice in the second round (based on his rankings). That is a little outside the box - does that mean he is an idiot or considered less competition?? Or does it reflect someone projecting and drafting off of their own unique educated opinion?

All drafts are unique and selections are made based upon scoring system/league rules, team need, individual beliefs/risk tolerance, and personal preference.

Someone who "spends a lot of time here" and playing in this hobby should have a grasp on this. Thanks for your "outside of this universe" posting advice - I greatly appreciate it...

You're welcome.

 

[Biabreakable]

Sorry to interrupt the conversation here with stuff about Bishop Sankey.

Top 40 Fantasy RBs: Where Does Bishop Sankey Rank?

by Scotty Bakalian 1h ago http://titansized.com/2014/06/02/top-40-fantasy-rbs-bishop-sankey-rank/

The 2014-15 NFL season is just a few months away, and with it comes the fantasy football season. Player rankings and mock drafts are already swirling around the web. And with NFL rosters around the league finally taking shape, I thought now would be a good time to unveil my early, personal fantasy football rankings. We’ll start with the running back group.

Where will new Tennessee Titans RB Bishop Sankey land on the list? Could he crack the top 20? Being a Tennessee Titans fan, it’s safe to assume that I am quite optimistic when it comes to Sankey’s rookie year potential.

Let’s start off with my top 10 running backs:

1. LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles

2. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings

3. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City Chiefs

4. Matt Forte, Chicago Bears

5. Eddie Lacy, Green Bay Packers

6. Marshawn Lynch, Seattle Seahawks

7. Doug Martin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

8. Montee Ball, Denver Broncos

9. Arian Foster, Houston Texans

10. Zac Stacy, St. Louis Rams

- I ranked LeSean McCoy ahead of both Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles, but you can’t go wrong with any of those three RB’s. Quite frankly, I’d rather pick third when compared to first for this reason.

- Ranking Eddie Lacy in front of Marshawn Lynch might surprise some, but Eddie has relatively fresh legs and playing with QB Aaron Rodgers should really open things up for him. Lynch is a risk. His heavy workload in each of the last three seasons is worrisome.

- I expect a bounce back season for Doug Martin, who could go in the late second, early third round in some drafts.

- Montee Ball is an interesting study. He has very little experience, but the feature running back in a Peyton Manning-led offense will produce numbers. Remember the fact that Knowshon Moreno was a top-five fantasy RB last season for the Broncos. If Ball becomes the bell cow for Denver, than he could become one of the steals of the draft.

- The addition of RB Tre Mason in St. Louis didn’t change my view on Zac Stacy. Even if Mason gets 10-plus touches a game, there will be more than enough work for Stacy. We all know that former Titans head coach Jeff Fisher likes to pound the rock.

On to 11-20:

11. DeMarco Murray, Dallas Cowboys

12. Le’Veon Bell, Pittsburgh Steelers

13. Giovani Bernard, Cincinnati Bengals

14. Alfred Morris, Washington Redskins

*****15. Bishop Sankey, Tennessee Titans*****

16. Andre Ellington, Arizona Cardinals

17. Reggie Bush, Detroit Lions

18. C.J. Spiller, Buffalo Bills

19. Ben Tate, Cleveland Browns

20. Shane Vereen, New England Patriots

- I wanted to rank DeMarco Murray higher. I like his offensive environment and his 5.2 yards per carry last season was impressive. I just can’t get past his injury history. He is a risk/reward type of player.

- Le’Veon Bell should get a ton of touches in Pittsburgh and is connected to a decent offense. I just wish he was more effective with all that volume. A 3.5 yards per carry average is uninspiring. Overall, he should be very consistent, but his ceiling is not through the roof.

- Giovani Bernard is basically the opposite of Bell. He might not get a heavy workload, but he is explosive when he does get the ball. New Bengals RB Jeremy Hill might vulture some touchdowns from Giovani, but I still expect him to get more work than he did last season.

- As you can see, I am a believer in Bishop Sankey. Yes, he is unproven. It remains to be seen if he can handle a large amount of touches in the NFL. But after watching some of his tape, I came away quite impressed. He is versatile, elusive, and is tough for his size. Another reason why I have him ranked so highly is because the RB depth chart in Tennessee beyond Sankey is underwhelming. As long as he can hold onto the football, he will see a ton of playing time. The success of last season’s rookie running back class only makes the Sankey ranking that much more valid. I would not be surprised one bit if Bishop Sankey breaks out in his rookie year.

- Arizona doesn’t have a great history of producing quality fantasy running backs, but Andre Ellington might be the exception. He is a home-run hitter, plus there is not a lot of competition in the Cardinals backfield outside or Ellington.

- Shane Vereen is just a couple Stevan Ridley fumbles away from becoming a strong No. 2 RB.

We’re entering flex territory now, here’s 21-30

21. Ryan Mathews, San Diego Chargers

22. Rashad Jennings, New York Giants

23. Frank Gore, San Francisco 49ers

24. Joique Bell, Detroit Lions

25. Trent Richardson, Indianapolis Colts

26. Toby Gerhart, Jacksonville Jaguars

27. Stevan Ridley, New England Patriots

28. Chris Johnson, New York Jets

29. Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens

30. Steven Jackson, Atlanta Falcons

- Ryan Mathews had a nice 2013-14 campaign, but he is a major risk due to his proneness to injury. You’ve been warned.

- Frank Gore refuses to back down. The guy just churns out 1,000-yard seasons year after year. But now at the age of 31, one must wonder how much he has left in the tank. I would rather be a year too early on dismissing a player than a year too late.

- For a 220 pound RB, Joique Bell is really versatile. He has had at least 50 catches in each of the last two seasons. He should get enough touches to be a good flex option, and if Reggie Bush goes down, Bell vaults to high RB2 status

- I’m probably not going to own Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, or Steven Jackson this year. All 3 have question marks to varying degrees. I would say that Johnson has the best chance of cracking the top 20, and that Rice has the best chance of falling outside the top 40.

Backups galore, 31-40:

31. Knowshon Moreno, Miami Dolphins

32. Pierre Thomas, New Orleans Saints

33. Maurice Jones-Drew, Oakland Raiders

34. Bernard Pierce, Baltimore Ravens

35. Terrence West, Cleveland Browns

36. Darren Sproles, Philadelphia Eagles

37. Fred Jackson, Buffalo Bills

38. Danny Woodhead, San Diego Chargers

39. Khiry Robinson, New Orleans Saints

40. Carlos Hyde, San Francisco 49ers

- Knowshon Moreno leaves Denver and is now in Miami. Unfortunately, he left most of his fantasy value back in Denver.

- One of the Saints RB’s is going to have value after the departure of Darren Sproles. Figuring out who to draft out of Pierre Thomas, Khiry Robinson, and Mark Ingram is a feat within itself.

- Terrance West is a name to keep an eye on. Browns starting RB Ben Tate has had trouble staying healthy, and new offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan’s offense can get production from the running back position.

- I don’t know how many touches we can expect from Sproles in Philadelphia, but you know HC Chip Kelly will find a way to get him on the field.

- I’d rather take a chance on someone like Carlos Hyde compared to a veteran RB at this point in the rankings. If something happens to Gore in San Francisco, Hyde could be fantasy gold.

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For redraft does 15 seem too high? Where would you slot him for the 2014 season?

 

[maf005]

It's still very early but I think his value will settle between rb10-rb15 by August

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Sankey is going to be a very good RB with the chance of being a ppr monster this year and let me explain why.

The Titan's new offensive O coordinator is Jason Michael who is coming over with Wisenhunt from SD. Wisenhunt was the O coordinator last year with the Chargers and the RB's were heavily involved in all aspects of the offense. The Chargers were 6th in the NFL in rushing attempts last season which is great news for Sankey. They also were not shy about getting their RB's involved in the passing game. Woodhead 76 receptions, Matthews 26 receptions, Brown 8 receptions, and McClain 2 receptions. That is a 112 receptions to the RB's.

Sankey is a 3 down RB who is going to be catching a ton of passes. He is very fluid and has great hands. The Titans will utlitize him in multiple ways which will include catching a ton of passes.

Jason Michael who is the new O coordinator for the Titans was listed as the tight end's coach last year in San Diego but his role was larger and more important to that offense then being labelled as a skill position coach. Wisenhunt said that Michael was a big part of their game plans last year and they used multiple packages that he put together on a weekly basis. The thing I like most is what Michael was quoted as saying here about utlilizing players strengths which they will do with Sankey... "“This is a great situation,” said Michael. “The opportunity to work with Whiz and follow him there to Tennessee is exciting both professionally and personally. In the one year working with Whiz, I learned a great deal and we worked really well together. His ability to create an offense that is built around the strengths of the players led to success for us in San Diego and it will be fun to come there and create an offense that is built around a new group of players. Nine years ago, this would have been the job I dreamed about – with my wife from Knoxville and going to school in Bowling Green (Kentucky) - an opportunity to come home to be the offensive coordinator for the Titans.”

Let's just Sankey is going to be an impact player in fantasy football this year. He has a very high ceiling and he is my predicition as OROY.

 

[rdrouyn]

that's awfully high for a RB that hasn't taken an NFL snap. Looking at some good young vets below him (Spiller, Bush, Ellington, Matthews, Gerhart) that have equal or higher upside and less risk.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

They also were not shy about getting their RB's involved in the passing game. Woodhead 76 receptions, Matthews 26 receptions, Brown 8 receptions, and McClain 2 receptions. That is a 112 receptions to the RB's.

The problem with this, could be Dexter McCluster becoming the "Woodhead" in the Whisenhutt offense.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

They also were not shy about getting their RB's involved in the passing game. Woodhead 76 receptions, Matthews 26 receptions, Brown 8 receptions, and McClain 2 receptions. That is a 112 receptions to the RB's.

The problem with this, could be Dexter McCluster becoming the "Woodhead" in the Whisenhutt offense.

I already factored that in. Dex will catch some balls no doubt, but I am guessing a lot of those will come out of the slot. The problem with Dex is his predictability if he is/was ever lined up in the back field. I think there is a reason Dex played out of the slot last year in KC and only has 20 rush attempts the last 2 years combined. Dex is useless as a tail back and so if he was lined up in the back field as a defense you know he is not getting the ball and if he did he was easy to stop. He had 8 attempts last year and 12 attempts the year before so he is a non factor in the run game. Woodhead had a 106 rush attempts last year to at least keep the defense honest and run between the tackles.

The offenses are different but just for comparison sake Dex out of the slot last year had 53 catches for KC. That still left Charles to catch 70 passes in 15 games, Nile Davis had 11 receptions and Gray had 7. That is 90 receptions for their RB's not named Dex (who as mentioned was a slot guy). I think Dex will be used similar to what he was the last couple of years in Kansas City which was a slot role.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I already factored that in. Dex will catch some balls no doubt, but I am guessing a lot of those will come out of the slot. The problem with Dex is his predictability if he is/was ever lined up in the back field. I think there is a reason Dex played out of the slot last year in KC and only has 20 rush attempts the last 2 years combined. Dex is useless as a tail back and so if he was lined up in the back field as a defense you know he is not getting the ball and if he did he was easy to stop. He had 8 attempts last year and 12 attempts the year before so he is a non factor in the run game. Woodhead had a 106 rush attempts last year to at least keep the defense honest and run between the tackles.

The offenses are different but just for comparison sake Dex out of the slot last year had 53 catches for KC. That still left Charles to catch 70 passes in 15 games, Nile Davis had 11 receptions and Gray had 7. That is 90 receptions for their RB's not named Dex (who as mentioned was a slot guy). I think Dex will be used similar to what he was the last couple of years in Kansas City which was a slot role.

The team has already said he would be a RB not a WR (fantasy sites have even adjusted his position) - and from there the speculation was that he'd take the Woodhead role in Whiz offense. Woodhead lined up in the backfield and caught his balls running routes from there. So sure you can say he'll be used as a slot WR, but the team has said otherwise.

This was prior to the drafting of Sankey, but I don't think that affects how McCluster will be used.

The Nashville Tennessean confirms the Titans plan to use Dexter McCluster at running back.
New coach Ken Whisenhunt is looking to form a committee around power back Shonn Greene and passing back McCluster. He's also expected to use a draft pick, possibly No. 42 overall, on a running back. McCluster hasn't been a ball-carrier since 2011 and is listed at just 5'8/170, but he can be penciled into a Danny Woodhead or Darren Sproles kind of role. How much volume McCluster gets will depend on effectiveness

 

[Greggity]

I think Toby is going to be a nice suprise for those who draft him since he goes pretty late in drafts.

 

[maf005]

that's awfully high for a RB that hasn't taken an NFL snap. Looking at some good young vets below him (Spiller, Bush, Ellington, Matthews, Gerhart) that have equal or higher upside and less risk.

Once the hype machine starts kicking into gear his ADP will rise quickly.

But it's pretty easy to make the case for Sankey being a top 15 rb as he will get 300 touches almost guaranteed behind one of the better run blocking lines in the league. Running back rankings are very situation-dependant

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Was just yanking your chain. Look at my name... I mean... reeeeally look at it.

I need a hint. :whoosh:

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I already factored that in. Dex will catch some balls no doubt, but I am guessing a lot of those will come out of the slot. The problem with Dex is his predictability if he is/was ever lined up in the back field. I think there is a reason Dex played out of the slot last year in KC and only has 20 rush attempts the last 2 years combined. Dex is useless as a tail back and so if he was lined up in the back field as a defense you know he is not getting the ball and if he did he was easy to stop. He had 8 attempts last year and 12 attempts the year before so he is a non factor in the run game. Woodhead had a 106 rush attempts last year to at least keep the defense honest and run between the tackles.

The offenses are different but just for comparison sake Dex out of the slot last year had 53 catches for KC. That still left Charles to catch 70 passes in 15 games, Nile Davis had 11 receptions and Gray had 7. That is 90 receptions for their RB's not named Dex (who as mentioned was a slot guy). I think Dex will be used similar to what he was the last couple of years in Kansas City which was a slot role.

The team has already said he would be a RB not a WR (fantasy sites have even adjusted his position) - and from there the speculation was that he'd take the Woodhead role in Whiz offense. Woodhead lined up in the backfield and caught his balls running routes from there. So sure you can say he'll be used as a slot WR, but the team has said otherwise.

This was prior to the drafting of Sankey, but I don't think that affects how McCluster will be used.

The Nashville Tennessean confirms the Titans plan to use Dexter McCluster at running back.
New coach Ken Whisenhunt is looking to form a committee around power back Shonn Greene and passing back McCluster. He's also expected to use a draft pick, possibly No. 42 overall, on a running back. McCluster hasn't been a ball-carrier since 2011 and is listed at just 5'8/170, but he can be penciled into a Danny Woodhead or Darren Sproles kind of role. How much volume McCluster gets will depend on effectiveness

I don't know how much weight you can put in from reporters prior to the drafting of Sankey and speculation prior to drafting of a 3 down RB like Sankey. Even if Dex lines up in the backfield and catches some passes, I see Sankey catching 50 plus passes.

 

[nirad3]

Was just yanking your chain. Look at my name... I mean... reeeeally look at it.

I need a hint. :whoosh:

I'm in a league with Mr. Billy and frequent another board where he's quite active. I've been known to goose him for a thing or two. All in good fun and I certainly respect his opinon (even though it's usually wrong).

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I already factored that in. Dex will catch some balls no doubt, but I am guessing a lot of those will come out of the slot. The problem with Dex is his predictability if he is/was ever lined up in the back field. I think there is a reason Dex played out of the slot last year in KC and only has 20 rush attempts the last 2 years combined. Dex is useless as a tail back and so if he was lined up in the back field as a defense you know he is not getting the ball and if he did he was easy to stop. He had 8 attempts last year and 12 attempts the year before so he is a non factor in the run game. Woodhead had a 106 rush attempts last year to at least keep the defense honest and run between the tackles.

The offenses are different but just for comparison sake Dex out of the slot last year had 53 catches for KC. That still left Charles to catch 70 passes in 15 games, Nile Davis had 11 receptions and Gray had 7. That is 90 receptions for their RB's not named Dex (who as mentioned was a slot guy). I think Dex will be used similar to what he was the last couple of years in Kansas City which was a slot role.

The team has already said he would be a RB not a WR (fantasy sites have even adjusted his position) - and from there the speculation was that he'd take the Woodhead role in Whiz offense. Woodhead lined up in the backfield and caught his balls running routes from there. So sure you can say he'll be used as a slot WR, but the team has said otherwise.

This was prior to the drafting of Sankey, but I don't think that affects how McCluster will be used.

The Nashville Tennessean confirms the Titans plan to use Dexter McCluster at running back.
New coach Ken Whisenhunt is looking to form a committee around power back Shonn Greene and passing back McCluster. He's also expected to use a draft pick, possibly No. 42 overall, on a running back. McCluster hasn't been a ball-carrier since 2011 and is listed at just 5'8/170, but he can be penciled into a Danny Woodhead or Darren Sproles kind of role. How much volume McCluster gets will depend on effectiveness

I don't know how much weight you can put in from reporters prior to the drafting of Sankey and speculation prior to drafting of a 3 down RB like Sankey. Even if Dex lines up in the backfield and catches some passes, I see Sankey catching 50 plus passes.

Ryan Matthews was a 3 down back who caught 50 balls in 2011. He caught 26 last year with Whiz as OC and with Danny Woodhead in the "Danny Woodhead" role.