Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

(USA Today)Tennessee Titans RB Bishop Sankey believes participating in more organized team activities this offseason has helped him a lot. Sankey missed most of last year's OTAs due to PAC-12 school rules. "I've been able to kind of start from scratch," Sankey said. "I definitely feel more comfortable with pass protection, initial reads with running plays and everything."

 

[buck naked]

If you watch today's presser on Titans site, please do, you can see what I've been saying

http://www.titansonline.com/video/videos/Ken-Whisenhunt-on-Working-Through-Tough-Practices/db8bcfc9-0d00-46b7-961b-1e3b5b160e58

You can see Whisenhunt's frustrated support (fading too) of Sankey overcoming mistakes he makes and then watch his face when Antonio Andrews is brought up.

Again, I don't know if Fowler and Cobb are better than Andrews, Sankey is still getting the first team reps and still the man here, but ...Andrews has won this coach over.

Production, not talk, will matter and that won't happen til camp and preseason but if ya ask me Andrews has a sneaky shot to win the job here

I think you are seeing what you want to see. I did not see anything from Whisenhunt on that video.

 

[Faust]

Breakout or bust? Examining the sophomore RBs

Excerpt:

Bishop SankeyWhen the Titans made Sankey the first running back selected in the 2014 NFL Draft, they thought they had their running back of the future. After a lackluster rookie campaign, that thought has gone out the window and lead to the team drafting David Cobb in the fifth round of 2015. So, what can we expect from Sankey in Year 2? I went to the tape to find out.

2014 IN REVIEW

Due to the University of Washington operating on a quarters system, Sankey missed virtually all of the Titans offseason program last season. This could have led to his struggles as a rookie. However, even as the season wore on, Sankey didn't seem to improve in terms of his vision or ability to read the blocks in front of him. He finished with a disappointing 152 carries for 569 yards (3.7 ypc average) with just two touchdowns and two fumbles. Not exactly what fantasy enthusiasts were hoping for when they pegged him as a sleeper a season ago.

ANALYSIS

While watching Sankey's rookie year film on GameRewind, I was constantly reminded of Don Henley's hit, "All She Wants to Do is Dance," as Sankey loved to bust needless moves behind the line of scrimmage. Whether from a lack of understanding with the offense or general timidness, he rarely hit the hole with speed or confidence unless it was blocked wide open for him. He would stretch runs outside, or hop around in the backfield waiting for a hole to develop. He showed little feel or anticipation for the flow of his offensive line and the defense, and as a result was frequently tackled around the line of scrimmage while missing the open lane or crease. All too often I'd see Sankey's indecision lead to him bumping into his own teammates or tacklers he should have avoided. Add in the fact that he isn't the quickest to accelerate in general, and you understand why he only had two runs of 15 or more yards in 2014 (for the sake of comparison, Trent Richardson had three).

2015 AND BEYOND

Sankey has been getting the lion's share of reps in OTAs with Shonn Greene a no-show and David Cobb working his way back from a hamstring tweak, but I have serious concerns he can ever be anything more than a journeyman NFL running back. As we see year in and year out, running back is one of the easier positions for college players to transition to in the NFL. Yet, Sankey never seemed to catch on to the pro game last year, and I don't know that he ever will. If Cobb can stay healthy, I don't think he'll have any trouble winning this backfield, which is why he's one of my favorite late-round sleepers in fantasy for 2015. He's not a burner or the most athletic back you'll find, but what he can do is read the defense, make the right cut, and pummle his opponents for extra yards. He's also a sound pass-blocker, which could help his chances of seeing the field even more, as the team desperately needs to keep rookie signal-caller Marcus Mariota upright.

2015 DRAFT VALUE

Slump: He's undraftable for me. Maybe a late-round flier for everyone else.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Tennessean says Bishop Sankey is the "odds-on favorite" to start Week 1.

It's important to note that Sankey, brutally unimpressive as a rookie, is merely the favorite by default. The Titans are tied to him after making him the first running back off the board in 2014 and only having gadget player Dexter McCluster as veteran depth. We'd still expect rookie fifth-rounder David Cobb to make a big push in training camp and at least siphon off a significant chunk of work, but he'll have to earn it. Cobb missed most of the offseason with a hamstring issue.

Related: David Cobb

Source: Nashville Tennessean
Jul 20 - 8:49 AM

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

The Tennessean says Bishop Sankey is the "odds-on favorite" to start Week 1.

It's important to note that Sankey, brutally unimpressive as a rookie, is merely the favorite by default. The Titans are tied to him after making him the first running back off the board in 2014 and only having gadget player Dexter McCluster as veteran depth. We'd still expect rookie fifth-rounder David Cobb to make a big push in training camp and at least siphon off a significant chunk of work, but he'll have to earn it. Cobb missed most of the offseason with a hamstring issue.

Related: David Cobb

Source: Nashville Tennessean
Jul 20 - 8:49 AM

He was unimpressive most of the time last year (had good game against the Bengals) but you're kidding yourself if you think David Cobb would have done any better with that OL.

 

[Bri]

Rotoworld:

The Tennessean says Bishop Sankey is the "odds-on favorite" to start Week 1.

It's important to note that Sankey, brutally unimpressive as a rookie, is merely the favorite by default. The Titans are tied to him after making him the first running back off the board in 2014 and only having gadget player Dexter McCluster as veteran depth. We'd still expect rookie fifth-rounder David Cobb to make a big push in training camp and at least siphon off a significant chunk of work, but he'll have to earn it. Cobb missed most of the offseason with a hamstring issue.

Related: David Cobb

Source: Nashville Tennessean
Jul 20 - 8:49 AM

He was unimpressive most of the time last year (had good game against the Bengals) but you're kidding yourself if you think David Cobb would have done any better with that OL.

Fowler is the proverbial dark horse here.

Few are mentioning him at all.

The most favorable critiques say Sankey's issues last year stemmed from being in school late and missing OTAs and minicamp. Cobb did the same, but for a hammy. He is in the exact same boat.

Normal FBs don't play RB, they don't line out wide, they don't get shifted to the TE spot. You can't do the meh he's just a FB type reasoning and it's also difficult to predict production with some odd usage like that.

Andrews rans with the ones splitting time with Sankey. Gotta note that too.

Heading into TC, Sankey has not been criticized by Whis much and in fact has done well where Whis wants to see it on the field in TC and preseason.

NEXT has to be Fowler and Andrews who work hard, show up, and do whatever coach wants.

I think the latter two are far harder to beat out by a rookie 5th round pick who missed a ton of practices than people are letting on.

They also have a top 5 college FB, two sites even had him 3rd best. They don't need Fowler to play FB in the vein that this will limit his chances to be a coach's toy and moved around a lot. They got another, Whis has a luxury there.

I love the idea of TEN history combined with so many former Steeler coaches and talk of a smashmouth running style. That favors Cobb moreso than NFL Sankey. Sankey in college would be just fine with this though. Rookie nerves? I don't know what ya call it but he didn't look as he did in college. Very hesitant, terribly happy feet...that's not normal. It is totally possible he's more comfy. Anyhow, Andrews ran behind a meh line and was one of the most productive college backs the last four years. He ran tough in a style Whis seems to want. Fowler didn't carry the rock much but ran like a RB (which he was as a freshman) not some put your head down and smash into a wall type FB. Cobb is not unique here as people have alluded to. All of them are quite similar, the Titans certainly drafted with a certain mindset here for tough runners.

If Sankey can run tough like in college, he is the only one with breakaway speed, speed to beat guys one on one without moves and...in the open field he's the only thoroughbred here.

These 4.6 4.7 guys with bad times far worse are very different than Sankey's 4.4 with several times having an outstanding shuttle run and cone drill. He was supposed to be tough with an extra gear N shiftiness to pop it outside and take off. In college he needed many carries to get his motor going and we've seen NFL backs NOT get that opportunity with one team then do well elsewhere when they do get that opportunity. Hopefully this isn't the case, but it does not appear Whisenhunt is patient like that and with this backfield he has options to nudge him toward not being patient.

Andrews showed some speed in the return game, some speed better than his 40 time, something in the game speed vein people speak about. He has a year in the system and worked hard to earn the respect of the staff.

Hope this puts things in perspective. This giving Cobb the keys stuff has gotten overblown while we wait for camp.

 

[Ilov80s]

Did Sankey mostly play out the shotgun/pistol in college? Will the Titans use that formation to help transition Marcus?

 

[Bri]

Did Sankey mostly play out the shotgun/pistol in college? Will the Titans use that formation to help transition Marcus?

Sorry to link and not just reply but this article is perfectly fitting here

http://www.uwdawgpound.com/2013/9/5/4698432/understanding-the-new-offense-a-syllabus

 

[Faust]

Running Back Breakdown: Yards After Contact

Excerpt:

The first running back drafted last year did not have as much of an impact as other rookie running backs, but Bishop Sankey excelled in gaining yards after contact and rarely was immediately stopped.

I was listening to the SXM fantasy sports channel this morning and they were talking about a few of these statistics to suggest that it is far too early to write Sankey off and to anoint Cobb as the heir apparent to the Titans backfield.

 

[Biabreakable]

Running Back Breakdown: Yards After Contact

Excerpt:

The first running back drafted last year did not have as much of an impact as other rookie running backs, but Bishop Sankey excelled in gaining yards after contact and rarely was immediately stopped.

I was listening to the SXM fantasy sports channel this morning and they were talking about a few of these statistics to suggest that it is far too early to write Sankey off and to anoint Cobb as the heir apparent to the Titans backfield.

This somewhat debunks one of the main criticisms of Bishop Sankey as a prospect. That he did not show much power to move the pile and gain yards after contact.

I still do not like the HC but it seems that Sankey has improved in an area of his game that many (including myself) considered to be a weakness.

 

[Bri]

positive Sankey article from a guy that isn't usually his biggest supporter, with GIFs to show

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2015/7/20/9003239/tale-of-the-tape-defending-bishop-sankey-gifs

 

[Sabertooth]

I offered a 2016 2nd rounder for him and got rejected. He came back with a second that turns into a first if he breaks 1000 total yards, 5 tds, and 25 catches. I said no thanks.

 

[finito]

I offered a 2016 2nd rounder for him and got rejected. He came back with a second that turns into a first if he breaks 1000 total yards, 5 tds, and 25 catches. I said no thanks.

Do you think he reaches those numbers?

 

[cstu]

I offered a 2016 2nd rounder for him and got rejected. He came back with a second that turns into a first if he breaks 1000 total yards, 5 tds, and 25 catches. I said no thanks.

Here are the RB's who cracked those numbers last year:

Rk 		Year 	Age 	Draft 	Tm 	Lg 	G 	GS 	Att 	Yds 	Y/A 	TD 	Y/G 	Tgt 	Rec 	Yds 	Y/R 	TD 	Y/G 	Ctch% 	Touch 	TotOff 	YScm 	APYd 	RtY1 	DeMarco Murray 	2014 	26 	3-71 	DAL 	NFL 	16 	16 	392 	1845 	4.71 	13 	115.3 	64 	57 	416 	7.30 	0 	26.0 	89.1 	449 	1845 	2261 	2261 	02 	Le'Veon Bell 	2014 	22 	2-48 	PIT 	NFL 	16 	16 	290 	1361 	4.69 	8 	85.1 	105 	83 	854 	10.29 	3 	53.4 	79.0 	373 	1361 	2215 	2215 	03 	LeSean McCoy 	2014 	26 	2-53 	PHI 	NFL 	16 	16 	312 	1319 	4.23 	5 	82.4 	37 	28 	155 	5.54 	0 	9.7 	75.7 	340 	1319 	1474 	1474 	04 	Marshawn Lynch 	2014 	28 	1-12 	SEA 	NFL 	16 	14 	280 	1306 	4.66 	13 	81.6 	48 	37 	367 	9.92 	4 	22.9 	77.1 	317 	1306 	1673 	1672 	05 	Justin Forsett 	2014 	29 	7-233 	BAL 	NFL 	16 	14 	235 	1266 	5.39 	8 	79.1 	59 	44 	263 	5.98 	0 	16.4 	74.6 	279 	1266 	1529 	1529 	06 	Arian Foster 	2014 	28 		HOU 	NFL 	13 	13 	260 	1246 	4.79 	8 	95.8 	59 	38 	327 	8.61 	5 	25.2 	64.4 	298 	1251 	1573 	1573 	07 	Eddie Lacy 	2014 	24 	2-61 	GNB 	NFL 	16 	16 	246 	1139 	4.63 	9 	71.2 	55 	42 	427 	10.17 	4 	26.7 	76.4 	288 	1139 	1566 	1566 	08 	Jeremy Hill 	2014 	22 	2-55 	CIN 	NFL 	16 	8 	222 	1124 	5.06 	9 	70.3 	32 	27 	215 	7.96 	0 	13.4 	84.4 	249 	1124 	1339 	1339 	09 	Lamar Miller 	2014 	23 	4-97 	MIA 	NFL 	16 	16 	216 	1099 	5.09 	8 	68.7 	52 	38 	275 	7.24 	1 	17.2 	73.1 	254 	1099 	1374 	1374 	010 	Matt Forte 	2014 	29 	2-44 	CHI 	NFL 	16 	16 	266 	1038 	3.90 	6 	64.9 	130 	102 	808 	7.92 	4 	50.5 	78.5 	368 	1038 	1846 	1846 	011 	Jamaal Charles 	2014 	28 	3-73 	KAN 	NFL 	15 	15 	206 	1033 	5.01 	9 	68.9 	59 	40 	291 	7.28 	5 	19.4 	67.8 	246 	1033 	1324 	1324 	012 	Mark Ingram 	2014 	25 	1-28 	NOR 	NFL 	13 	9 	226 	964 	4.27 	9 	74.2 	36 	29 	145 	5.00 	0 	11.2 	80.6 	255 	964 	1109 	1109 	013 	Joique Bell 	2014 	28 		DET 	NFL 	15 	6 	223 	860 	3.86 	7 	57.3 	53 	34 	322 	9.47 	1 	21.5 	64.2 	257 	860 	1182 	1182 	014 	C.J. Anderson 	2014 	23 		DEN 	NFL 	15 	7 	179 	849 	4.74 	8 	56.6 	44 	34 	324 	9.53 	2 	21.6 	77.3 	213 	849 	1173 	1173 	015 	Gio Bernard 	2014 	23 	2-37 	CIN 	NFL 	13 	9 	168 	680 	4.05 	5 	52.3 	59 	43 	349 	8.12 	2 	26.8 	72.9 	211 	680 	1029 	1029 	0

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

I'd happily give a first if he broke those numbers.

 

[maf005]

I'd happily give a first if he broke those numbers.

agreed. Or counter upping the yardage threshold to 1200

 

[Sabertooth]

I offered a 2016 2nd rounder for him and got rejected. He came back with a second that turns into a first if he breaks 1000 total yards, 5 tds, and 25 catches. I said no thanks.

Do you think he reaches those numbers?

no. But he could just on volume if nobody else steps up.

 

[Sabertooth]

My reasoning was that the two first round picks I have could be top 3

 

[Sabertooth]

Of course I could trade back and give him a later pick.

 

[maf005]

Can we please change the title of this thread?

And not because Sankey isn't good or the best in 2014 class but because people may not know the OP's schtick. Proclamations like "best in x class" etc shouldn't be in thread titles.

*Edit* Too much discussion has been driven by the thread title's premise it detracts from sensible discussion and debate.

 

[Bri]

Can we please change the title of this thread?

And not because Sankey isn't good or the best in 2014 class but because people may not know the OP's schtick. Proclamations like "best in x class" etc shouldn't be in thread titles.

*Edit* Too much discussion has been driven by the thread title's premise it detracts from sensible discussion and debate.

I've never seen a thread where everyone uses the phrase "first selected" a million times, a few sure, but I think human laziness or somesuch makes people want to type a short word.

It must stem from his struggles in 2014. No one has an issue with wording in the Watkins thread.

I don't disagree with ya, he's clearly not the best. Top works for me with this phone typing short word scenario. I think "best in class" like some horse racing jargon might apply maybe. Doubt it changes to first selected though

 

[maf005]

Can we please change the title of this thread?

And not because Sankey isn't good or the best in 2014 class but because people may not know the OP's schtick. Proclamations like "best in x class" etc shouldn't be in thread titles.

*Edit* Too much discussion has been driven by the thread title's premise it detracts from sensible discussion and debate.

I've never seen a thread where everyone uses the phrase "first selected" a million times, a few sure, but I think human laziness or somesuch makes people want to type a short word.

It must stem from his struggles in 2014. No one has an issue with wording in the Watkins thread.

I don't disagree with ya, he's clearly not the best. Top works for me with this phone typing short word scenario. I think "best in class" like some horse racing jargon might apply maybe. Doubt it changes to first selected though

For example even in pre draft discussion the conversation in this thread was centered around how much of a nut Brewtown is, and all of the issues with Sankey being the "best back in the 2014 class" rather than general discussion about his talent and potential. General dialogue, rather than guided convo based on terrible thread titles, is much more efficient and reasonable than what happened in this thread.

 

[msommer]

Can we please change the title of this thread?

And not because Sankey isn't good or the best in 2014 class but because people may not know the OP's schtick. Proclamations like "best in x class" etc shouldn't be in thread titles.

*Edit* Too much discussion has been driven by the thread title's premise it detracts from sensible discussion and debate.

I've never seen a thread where everyone uses the phrase "first selected" a million times, a few sure, but I think human laziness or somesuch makes people want to type a short word.

It must stem from his struggles in 2014. No one has an issue with wording in the Watkins thread.

I don't disagree with ya, he's clearly not the best. Top works for me with this phone typing short word scenario. I think "best in class" like some horse racing jargon might apply maybe. Doubt it changes to first selected though

For example even in pre draft discussion the conversation in this thread was centered around how much of a nut Brewtown is, and all of the issues with Sankey being the "best back in the 2014 class" rather than general discussion about his talent and potential. General dialogue, rather than guided convo based on terrible thread titles, is much more efficient and reasonable than what happened in this thread.

Most if not all of the hype threads have a Brewtown nutcase banging the drum hard - in either direction

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Bishop Sankey - RB - Titans

ESPN Titans reporter Paul Kuharsky expects Bishop Sankey to be the team's Week 1 starter at tailback, but to "lose carries to rookie David Cobb."

Fifth-rounder Cobb lacks Sankey's theoretical big-play ability, but is a superior runner between the tackles. Cobb, however, is going to face competition himself from fellow bruiser Antonio Andrews. The Titans used as many as four running backs throughout last season, giving Sankey, Shonn Greene, Dexter McCluster, and even Leon Washington playing time in their backfield. This could be a frustrating fantasy situation again this year.

Source: ESPN.com

Jul 26 - 2:30 PM

 

[Bri]

Here's Evan Silva briefly comparing Sankey's rookie year to LT2's.

Did you think they were similar?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/titans-fantasy-preview-220600834--nfl.html

 

[socrates]

Here's Evan Silva briefly comparing Sankey's rookie year to LT2's.

Did you think they were similar?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/titans-fantasy-preview-220600834--nfl.html

No comparison to LT2 in that article

 

[Bri]

Here's Evan Silva briefly comparing Sankey's rookie year to LT2's.

Did you think they were similar?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/titans-fantasy-preview-220600834--nfl.html

No comparison to LT2 in that article

"Sankey's proponents point to running back success stories following inefficient rookie years (e.g. LaDainian Tomlinson) "

1. exempli gratia
   
   
2. I.e. means 'that is' (to say). E.g. means 'for example'. I.e. is an abbreviation for Latin id est, 'that is'. E.g. stands for exempli gratia, 'for the sake of example'.

 

[BoltBacker]

Here's Evan Silva briefly comparing Sankey's rookie year to LT2's.

Did you think they were similar?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/titans-fantasy-preview-220600834--nfl.html

No comparison to LT2 in that article

"Sankey's proponents point to running back success stories following inefficient rookie years (e.g. LaDainian Tomlinson) "

• 
  
  exempli gratia
  
  
  
• I.e. means 'that is' (to say). E.g. means 'for example'. I.e. is an abbreviation for Latin id est, 'that is'. E.g. stands for exempli gratia, 'for the sake of example'.
  

I think I see the parallels in that they both had 2 arms and 2 legs and had 1600/10 in their rook... wait, what!?

 

[Bri]

My guess would be he's planning to draft Sankey and messed up doing the "hide my draft thoughts but also want to convey them" process FF writers do. A goof he probably wouldn't do tomorrow but...there it is. Sometimes the finality of writing stinks.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Titans' website believes Bishop Sankey has been the "most impressive running back" in camp, and "shown better instincts" than he did as a rookie.

Sankey has bulked up 6-7 pounds from last season, and writer Jim Wyatt believes it will make him "stronger and more durable." Sankey is battling fifth-rounder David Cobb for chairmanship of Tennessee's inevitable committee. Even if Sankey emerges as the starter, we wouldn't trust him as more than an RB3 to begin the season.

Related: David Cobb

Source: titansonline.com
Aug 6 - 8:04 PM

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Rotoworld:

The Titans' website believes Bishop Sankey has been the "most impressive running back" in camp, and "shown better instincts" than he did as a rookie.

Sankey has bulked up 6-7 pounds from last season, and writer Jim Wyatt believes it will make him "stronger and more durable." Sankey is battling fifth-rounder David Cobb for chairmanship of Tennessee's inevitable committee. Even if Sankey emerges as the starter, we wouldn't trust him as more than an RB3 to begin the season.

Related: David Cobb

Source: titansonline.com
Aug 6 - 8:04 PM

Brewtown please change the thread title to Bishop Sankey - Best RB on the 2015 Titans.

 

[werdnoynek]

Sankey has always been good of the field in the gym and in practice. They were saying the same thing last year... he just doesn't do it in live action against actual opponents.

 

[cstu]

Question: I haven't read too much on the run game thus far into training camp. Has any running back distinguished themselves from the rest of the pack? And what would you expect the carries distribution to be this year?

Jim: Bishop Sankey has stood out the most to me. He looks more decisive, and confident running the football. Antonio Andrews is getting a lot of work, too. Don’t dismiss him. The jury is still out on David Cobb. I’m looking forward to seeing him in games. He’s big enough to move the pile and get tough yards, and it’s tougher to gauge some of that in practices. Dexter McCluster will be in the mix as well. Right now, I’m thinking Sankey leads this team in carries and yards if he stays healthy.

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Ask-Jim-Questions-on-Sankey-Mariota-and-More/cc11a4e7-2bc7-44d4-94cc-9b8e1a4223b2

 

[Xue]

Sankey has always been good of the field in the gym and in practice. They were saying the same thing last year... he just doesn't do it in live action against actual opponents.

https://twitter.com/BestFantasyTips/status/628624268058755072

Bishop Sankey was 3rd in the league last year with 3+ yards after contact on 40.1% of his runs. Lot of upside with him if O-line can improve

https://twitter.com/AnOutragedJew/status/614290423738052608

Bishop Sankey & Demarco Murray's yards after contact per attempt only differentiated by .03 -- Sankey 2.51, Murray 2.54. Le'Veon had a 2.44.

 

[werdnoynek]

Sankey has always been good of the field in the gym and in practice. They were saying the same thing last year... he just doesn't do it in live action against actual opponents.

https://twitter.com/BestFantasyTips/status/628624268058755072

Bishop Sankey was 3rd in the league last year with 3+ yards after contact on 40.1% of his runs. Lot of upside with him if O-line can improve

https://twitter.com/AnOutragedJew/status/614290423738052608

Bishop Sankey & Demarco Murray's yards after contact per attempt only differentiated by .03 -- Sankey 2.51, Murray 2.54. Le'Veon had a 2.44.

Those stats are somewhat misleading considering he about a quarter of the snaps those guys did along with about half the carries. YAC are expected for him because he's not great at making people miss.

ETA: Those stats don't really have much to do with him looking good on the practice field and not in actual games... but if you want to continue to compare him to something he'll never be (a fantasy stud), be my guest.

 

[Xue]

Sankey has always been good of the field in the gym and in practice. They were saying the same thing last year... he just doesn't do it in live action against actual opponents.

https://twitter.com/BestFantasyTips/status/628624268058755072

Bishop Sankey was 3rd in the league last year with 3+ yards after contact on 40.1% of his runs. Lot of upside with him if O-line can improve

https://twitter.com/AnOutragedJew/status/614290423738052608

Bishop Sankey & Demarco Murray's yards after contact per attempt only differentiated by .03 -- Sankey 2.51, Murray 2.54. Le'Veon had a 2.44.

Those stats are somewhat misleading considering he about a quarter of the snaps those guys did along with about half the carries. YAC are expected for him because he's not great at making people miss.

ETA: Those stats don't really have much to do with him looking good on the practice field and not in actual games... but if you want to continue to compare him to something he'll never be (a fantasy stud), be my guest.

Those stats probably have nothing to do with "actual opponents" except they were based on actual games against actual opponents.

 

[Bob Magaw]

1 - What was his average on the other 60% of his runs.

2 - The yard after contact stat sounds impressive, but if he was hit in the backfield a lot, and part was due to excessive dancing (no doubt poor OL play also contributed), than a three yard after contact stat *COULD* merely represent a lot of zero, one and two yard gains (or even losses).

2 - He had two 20+ yard runs. How did that stack up on a percentage basis relative to other RBs.

 

[Warhogs]

I think people get too hung up on stats. I'm not sure what to think of Sankey yet but I think the biggest issue he has had is being on a poor team. Maybe that changes with some of the additions they have made. I think he is a buy and hope at present value because it seems like everybody but his grandma are down on him.

 

[werdnoynek]

Sankey has always been good of the field in the gym and in practice. They were saying the same thing last year... he just doesn't do it in live action against actual opponents.

https://twitter.com/BestFantasyTips/status/628624268058755072

Bishop Sankey was 3rd in the league last year with 3+ yards after contact on 40.1% of his runs. Lot of upside with him if O-line can improve

https://twitter.com/AnOutragedJew/status/614290423738052608

Bishop Sankey & Demarco Murray's yards after contact per attempt only differentiated by .03 -- Sankey 2.51, Murray 2.54. Le'Veon had a 2.44.

Those stats are somewhat misleading considering he about a quarter of the snaps those guys did along with about half the carries. YAC are expected for him because he's not great at making people miss.

ETA: Those stats don't really have much to do with him looking good on the practice field and not in actual games... but if you want to continue to compare him to something he'll never be (a fantasy stud), be my guest.

Those stats probably have nothing to do with "actual opponents" except they were based on actual games against actual opponents.

I'm not disputing that.

Those tweets you quoted are misleading and frankly do not say much of anything other than making Sankey seem better than he really is.

Comparing him to Demarco Murray and Leveon Bell is just plain silly... Chris Johnson on the other hand had 3 more carries than Sankey last year and he averaged 2.6 Yac/Att. Johnson was a dud last season, which makes Sankey a... dud.

 

[Ilov80s]

1 - What was his average on the other 60% of his runs.

2 - The yard after contact stat sounds impressive, but if he was hit in the backfield a lot, and part was due to excessive dancing (no doubt poor OL play also contributed), than a three yard after contact stat *COULD* merely represent a lot of zero, one and two yard gains (or even losses).

2 - He had two 20+ yard runs. How did that stack up on a percentage basis relative to other RBs.

Bishop Sankey 2014 highlights.

 

[Bri]

Question: I haven't read too much on the run game thus far into training camp. Has any running back distinguished themselves from the rest of the pack? And what would you expect the carries distribution to be this year?

Jim: Bishop Sankey has stood out the most to me. He looks more decisive, and confident running the football. Antonio Andrews is getting a lot of work, too. Don’t dismiss him. The jury is still out on David Cobb. I’m looking forward to seeing him in games. He’s big enough to move the pile and get tough yards, and it’s tougher to gauge some of that in practices. Dexter McCluster will be in the mix as well. Right now, I’m thinking Sankey leads this team in carries and yards if he stays healthy.

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Ask-Jim-Questions-on-Sankey-Mariota-and-More/cc11a4e7-2bc7-44d4-94cc-9b8e1a4223b2

 

[cstu]

Such irrational hate for this guy.

He's up 6 or 7 lbs., which would put him at 5-9.5, 215.

That's similar to Mark Ingram and Sankey beat him in every metric at the combine.

 

[Ilov80s]

Such irrational hate for this guy.

He's up 6 or 7 lbs., which would put him at 5-9.5, 215.

That's similar to Mark Ingram and Sankey beat him in every metric at the combine.

I'm actually taking him in most mocks I do. Great value.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Bishop Sankey is getting the majority of first-team reps at Titans camp.

Sankey's wildly disappointing rookie year hasn't stopped him from getting the benefit of the doubt this year. Of course, his only real competition is fifth-round rookie David Cobb and former UDFA Antonio Andrews. Sankey will likely lead this committee to start the season, although we wouldn't be surprised if Cobb eventually gets more work. Cobb has generated "some buzz" in training camp, per the team's official site.

Related: David Cobb

Source: titansonline.com
Aug 13 - 8:30 AM

 

[cstu]

Has there been any negative news about Sankey this offseason?

 

[Bri]

Has there been any negative news about Sankey this offseason?

Some. Leans wayyyy toward positive. Beginning was "he didn't learn" tone and then he showed he has. Camp opened and he struggled with pass blocking.

Seems like he and Fowler are excellent then yelled at (every other day) for the pass blocking while Cobb is atrocious and Andrews does well.

His playbook recognition is far far improved.

Minimal negativity for sure, but what's missing is important-the big runs, the "wow nice move" tweets etc.

He's the blue chip. It's a way closer camp battle if we're talking grind it out move piles type runs.

Also have to figure Lebeau is and isn't helping. It's helpful to test the guy with him throwing the book at Mariota this summer. It's difficult for these young backs to pickup Lebeau blitz's as it is for every back in the NFL. Ultimately it'll be good for them, but I expect more articles of them messing up with the blitz pickup.

I'm waiting for people to overreact to him getting 5 carries for 30 yards or 5 carries for 15 yards.

I know how teams sit the starting RBs after the first Q and all but if ya ask me, Whis would be well served turning Sankey into a 3rd down specialist the remainder of the game so he's force fed experience and they have game tape to discuss.

 

[renesauz]

I've been targetting this guy all over the place in "upside down" fashion. Not expecting a huge year, but I do expect he'll keep the starting job and improve on last year. At his current pricetag, he seems like a steal.

 

[Ilov80s]

I've been targetting this guy all over the place in "upside down" fashion. Not expecting a huge year, but I do expect he'll keep the starting job and improve on last year. At his current pricetag, he seems like a steal.

Same. It's basically a "what the heck" pick.

 

[Bri]

Tyler Johnson from Aiea, HI

Question: Do you think last year’s O-line struggles with injuries, jelling, etc., was a big factor in Bishop Sankey’s disappointing season last year? Do you think it has improved enough to boost the overall run game?

Jim: Back-to-back Tylers here. Nice. I’ll be honest: Sankey’s underwhelming rookie season could probably be blamed on a lot of things. For starters, he was playing catch-up all season after missing most the OTAs and just never got up to speed. The injuries and inconsistencies from the offensive line didn’t help matters either. Another factor, of course, is the Titans fell behind so often early last year, they had to abandon the run, so he didn’t get a lot of opportunities to feel comfortable in games. Sankey never carried the ball more than 18 times in a game, and he had 10 carries or fewer in 11 of the 16 games. Sankey has looked much more comfortable during training camp. He’s also stronger, and sturdier. It should result in better results this fall.

 

[Bri]

Soooo two things-

Somehow the Titans must have utilized war propaganda psychology techniques on me because I did go from "how is he still in this league" to yeah I guess if he costs the same as cutting him for like 6 months! It took me all of two minutes to want Levitre gone again.

I don't like Whisenhunt. He's a terrible coach for what the Titans GM will give him and their cheapness. WIth combos, I probably watched five "strings" tonight and I hated his O every time except one drive with Mett. Even Mariota's good drive, I wasn't pleased til Andrews took over.

A coach has to go with the hot hand and has to employ fighters, in the least, on the OL. I'm sick of the CBs.

Play two more LBs or Safeties. Something somewhere is said for them to not go after the ball. Misunderstanding PI rules, huge penalty within the team for PI...IDK but that is the same bunk they did last year. If the ball is within reach and you don't reach toward it, I'd cut ya. I'll put WRs at corner because they'll go after the darn ball. When they play zone they react AFTER the WR catches it. Why? Some of those floaters...yeah I'm pretty infuriated about the CB play. Sign Finnegan to coach them, switch Jefferson because we know he'll yell. SOMETHING!

I was like meh it's preseason, first game and...no no that was so much like last year!

**********Try to be positive*********

Sankey did show some speed and some legs. He's hit right away and still has this stall at the handoff.

Andrews was solid with the same bad blocking. I'll take 4 yards with 4 defenders draped on him. It's still enough. That reception...that's the surprising game speed he showed on KR last year. It's weird.

Cobb was good. I was gawking at Matias. He's gotta start.

All these tweets about trading Mett, I couldn't help but think trade Sankey.

Disturbing how many people on twitter ignored Andrews all offseason and missed his catch N runs and made it like Cobb came in for him.

Cobb not playing the first half and DGB barely playing kind of puts in perspective where they are at on the depth chart.

I didn't think it was fair to not give Mariota a tall WR yet he's played with them all camp.

Mariota's line looks better than he was.

The most awesome thing about tonight was Poutasi. With Stewart getting hurt, it has probably been nearly two years since I watched a game where the RT didn't begrudgingly have my attention. Big Giants Kudos, thank you to him.

Now go fix the LG position