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***Official*** Broken Promises to the Trumpettes (1 Viewer)
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GoBirds
Footballguy
It's a complete joke that all he has to show for 8 years is Obamacare which had Affordable in the name and is not affordable at all and the coverage is horrible. Financial markets have been artificially propped up so he can pass the problem along to the next guy. Any complaints of obstruction can look back to what a complete A hole he was once elected telling Republicans to pound sand, ride in the back, dividing our country even further. Of course he would lose control and no one across the aisle would work with him he is an arrogant jerk. The wealth gap is even larger now yet he promised change and taking care of the middle class. Sorry but time to try something else.
Revisionist history.
Obama hate and obstruction from the get go. He has accomplished a lot with grace, elegance and humor and will be sorely missed.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
If that was true you wouldn't have lost the election with someone planning to carry on all his policies. The blinders are why everything literally has shifted Republican even with a reality show candidate.
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
You are drinking early today. Obama faced obstruction from the get go? With the D house and senate. Ok oh and by the way the people being obstructed after he lost control of everything were the elected republicans in the house and the senate. They are the ones who make law not the president.
No blinders. Obama is likeable, Hillary is not. The end. And as ya'll have shown here, not enough cared that Hillary actually had extensive research experience and plans for policy moving forward compared to Trumps crayon drawings of a wall.
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Footballguy
Sure, everything has literally shifted Republican, aside from the fact that 53.4% of voters voted against the Republican candidate, and the current Republican Favorability Rating wallows around 40% (compared to 52% favorability for the Democratic party), and the current Democratic president has a 55% approval rating.
But aside from those things......definitely a shift. Definitely.
"blinders"
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He wasn't even sworn in when turtle man publicly proclaimed that it was a primary goal he not get second term.
And please, do not deny the dislike for a black man in Whitehouse.
I kinda know where you stand on such things.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
And Hillary was viewed strictly as a continuation of Obama's policies and nothing else. Nada. Just more Obama. Had no baggage associated with her, no smear campaign...nothing. The election was merely a referendum on Obama's policies.Sure, everything has literally shifted Republican, aside from the fact that 53.4% of voters voted against the Republican candidate, and the current Republican Favorability Rating wallows around 40% (compared to 52% favorability for the Democratic party, and the current Democratic president has a 55% approval rating.
But aside from those things......definitely a shift. Definitely.
"blinders"
GoBirds
Footballguy
Since you can't win by election laws in place maybe whine about it, protest in the streets for weeks, try to change the rules since they didn't work in your favor? Maybe raise more money from suckers for a recount and blame Russia?Sure, everything has literally shifted Republican, aside from the fact that 53.4% of voters voted against the Republican candidate, and the current Republican Favorability Rating wallows around 40% (compared to 52% favorability for the Democratic party, and the current Democratic president has a 55% approval rating.
But aside from those things......definitely a shift. Definitely.
"blinders"
[scooter]
Footballguy
My post was not a commentary about, or in any way a support of, the protests. (Nor was it a complaint about the Electoral College.) My post was nothing more than a refutation of your absurd claim that, and I quote, "everything literally has shifted Republican".Since you can't win by election laws in place maybe whine about it, protest in the streets for weeks, try to change the rules since they didn't work in your favor? Maybe raise more money from suckers for a recount and blame Russia?Sure, everything has literally shifted Republican, aside from the fact that 53.4% of voters voted against the Republican candidate, and the current Republican Favorability Rating wallows around 40% (compared to 52% favorability for the Democratic party, and the current Democratic president has a 55% approval rating.
But aside from those things......definitely a shift. Definitely.
"blinders"
You can either defend your claim or you can change the subject and/or move the goalposts. But if you choose to do the latter, keep in mind that it will completely undermine your original claim and destroy what little credibility you have around here.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Answer a question for me, are the House Senate and Presidency now Republican or Democrat? What were they in 2009?
not looking for any polls or ratings or what if scenario under different laws.
[scooter]
Footballguy
The answer to your question is "No," obviously. (Literally.)
Now, a follow-up question from me: do the House, Senate, and Presidency qualify as "everything"?
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Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
Please stop with the racial appropriation already. Your refusal to acknowledge half of the presidents racial heritage is disheartening.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Yes. Unless we want to discuss your neighborhood poll or friends on Facebook. Which I don't.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Ahhh, I see what's happened here. I have assumed that you understood the definition of "literally". My mistake.
(Looks like I also incorrectly assumed that you understood the definition of "now". Sorry about that.)
GoBirds
Footballguy
Can't contribute much without moving the goal posts?
Typical liberal arrogance and insults due to 3 week old butt hurt.
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Boston
Footballguy
[scooter]
Footballguy
The "goalpost" was that you stated "everything literally has shifted Republican". Then you doubled-down on that by confirming that you thought "everything" meant "Congress and the President".
And now you're tripling-down on it by lashing out. Also it seems like you really don't understand what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means, and/or how I have applied it. Not sure what else I can do about that.
GoBirds
Footballguy
If that's the way you see it then it all makes sense.The "goalpost" was that you stated "everything literally has shifted Republican". Then you doubled-down on that by confirming that you thought "everything" meant "Congress and the President".
And now you're tripling-down on it by lashing out. Also it seems like you really don't understand what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means, and/or how I have applied it. Not sure what else I can do about that.
[scooter]
Footballguy
If that's the way you see it then it all makes sense.The "goalpost" was that you stated "everything literally has shifted Republican". Then you doubled-down on that by confirming that you thought "everything" meant "Congress and the President".
And now you're tripling-down on it by lashing out. Also it seems like you really don't understand what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means, and/or how I have applied it. Not sure what else I can do about that.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Yes, I would like to know who you voted for, Beaver. Somehow, it does not strike me that you're keeping a tally because you supported Trump.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
I can see Trump getting the Mexico government to copay to improve border security, if not separately then when they modernize the new trade deals. A lot of illegals are also pouring into Mexico from other Central and South American countries. It is a problem for Mexico too when they stay a long time before making it to their final destination in the US.
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squistion
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Every, single clip in this You Tube montage was a LIE to the Trump Supporters....count 'em and add to the list.
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The Commish
Footballguy
The list is growing every day. What stands out to me is the big middle finger to the "Drain the Swamp" shtick. Why aren't we talking more about this? How many of the idiots who voted for Trump because of "change" are pissed that he's just using a lot of retreads?
The Commish
Footballguy
Well, at least your honest...though, there really isn't another position one of his supporters could really take and not be laughed out of the building
whoknew
Footballguy
Trump will Ask Congress to Fund Wall
President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has signaled to congressional Republican leaders that the President-elect's preference is to fund the border wall through the appropriations process as soon as April, according to House Republican officials.
The move would break a key campaign promise when Trump repeatedly said he would force Mexico to pay for the construction of the wall along the border.
The Trump team argues it will have the authority through a Bush-era 2006 law to build the wall, lawmakers say, but it lacks the money to do so. Transition officials have told House GOP leaders in private meetings they'd like to pay for the wall in the funding bill, a senior House GOP source said.
Intel report says US identifies go-betweens who gave emails to WikiLeaks
"It was not done in the Obama administration, so by funding the authorization that's already happened a decade ago, we could start the process of meeting Mr. Trump's campaign pledge to secure the border," Indiana Republican Rep. Luke Messer said on Thursday.
Messer admitted it's "big dollars, but it's a question of priorities." He pointed to a border security bill that Homeland Security Chairman Mike McCaul proposed last year that cost roughly $10 billion.
Republicans point out that then-Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-Sen. Hillary Clinton voted for the 2006 bill and argued that since Democrats backed that bill, they should support efforts to fund the current effort.
The thinking behind the strategy is that it is harder for Democrats to filibuster spending bills because of the high stakes involved if they fail to pass in time.
Black Caucus launches longshot effort to derail Sessions' nomination as attorney general
"Democrats may well find themselves in the position to shut down all of government to stop the buildout of a wall, or of a barrier, or of a fence," Messer said.
If Mexico refuses to pay for the wall the GOP could add billions of dollars into the spending bill that needs to pass by April 28 to keep the government open. But doing so would force a showdown with Senate Democrats and potentially threaten a government shutdown.
No decisions have been made, GOP sources said.
Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the No. 3 Republican in the House leadership, declined to say Thursday if Congress would pay for the wall.
"We want President Trump to have all the tools he needs to build the wall," Scalise said. "We're in talks with him on the details of it as they're still putting together their team. We still got a few months before there's another funding bill that's going to move. We're going to work with him to make sure we can get it done. We want to build a wall. He wants to build a wall."
President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has signaled to congressional Republican leaders that the President-elect's preference is to fund the border wall through the appropriations process as soon as April, according to House Republican officials.
The move would break a key campaign promise when Trump repeatedly said he would force Mexico to pay for the construction of the wall along the border.
The Trump team argues it will have the authority through a Bush-era 2006 law to build the wall, lawmakers say, but it lacks the money to do so. Transition officials have told House GOP leaders in private meetings they'd like to pay for the wall in the funding bill, a senior House GOP source said.
Intel report says US identifies go-betweens who gave emails to WikiLeaks
"It was not done in the Obama administration, so by funding the authorization that's already happened a decade ago, we could start the process of meeting Mr. Trump's campaign pledge to secure the border," Indiana Republican Rep. Luke Messer said on Thursday.
Messer admitted it's "big dollars, but it's a question of priorities." He pointed to a border security bill that Homeland Security Chairman Mike McCaul proposed last year that cost roughly $10 billion.
Republicans point out that then-Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-Sen. Hillary Clinton voted for the 2006 bill and argued that since Democrats backed that bill, they should support efforts to fund the current effort.
The thinking behind the strategy is that it is harder for Democrats to filibuster spending bills because of the high stakes involved if they fail to pass in time.
Black Caucus launches longshot effort to derail Sessions' nomination as attorney general
"Democrats may well find themselves in the position to shut down all of government to stop the buildout of a wall, or of a barrier, or of a fence," Messer said.
If Mexico refuses to pay for the wall the GOP could add billions of dollars into the spending bill that needs to pass by April 28 to keep the government open. But doing so would force a showdown with Senate Democrats and potentially threaten a government shutdown.
No decisions have been made, GOP sources said.
Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, the No. 3 Republican in the House leadership, declined to say Thursday if Congress would pay for the wall.
"We want President Trump to have all the tools he needs to build the wall," Scalise said. "We're in talks with him on the details of it as they're still putting together their team. We still got a few months before there's another funding bill that's going to move. We're going to work with him to make sure we can get it done. We want to build a wall. He wants to build a wall."
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Harry Manback
Footballguy
beavers
Footballguy
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beavers
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Weebs210
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beavers
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
OK. Poked my head in... too much of the usual aimless, nasty partisan squabbling for me.
Is there a nutshell? Did it happen? Or are we still waiting?
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