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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Desmond Howard was a Top 5 pick. That has got to be the highest return specialist ever.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
From a FF perspective, if your league adds points for ST TDs Bears get a big boost. The Bears D will be scary again; schedule vs. some of the most prolific turnover prone QBs in the league and a homerun return game. They should score even more defensive TDs in 06.
flapgreen
Footballguy
You don't have to apologize bro. I could go into a similar rant but i just don't feel like doing it. The reason behind not going for offensive players EVER is beyond me. And for all of those people who keep trying to act like the Bears offense is just suddenly going to come together and be decent, even though they haven't been good for my entire life, are merely living in a fantasy world that apparently never ends. Face the facts for once guys. Our offense is terrible and it doesn't appear to be getting better any time soon.Bears Man,I heard Hester interviewed yesterday on the Score or ESPN radio and he stated he was told he would play defense. I'm upset that we grabbed the same players in our first two pick, fast special team DB's.After Day 1, this is what I thought as well. Some veteran TE will get released (or could be had for cheap) & they'll go after him. Can't say it's a bad idea. Just thought in a draft full of TE's, they'd get one.I missed the 5 round and on, I'm guessing they didn't get a TE then either correct?
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As far as Hester, they could give him a crack I suppose. I can't see him as anything better than the #5 (Moose, Bradley, Berrian, Currie/Gage). I imagine Hester's got a better shot of being a nickel corner (if anything besides a returner).....at least he's someone that can run with Steve Smith (but covering him is a different story).
I don't know 40 times, but Bradley/Berrian/Currie all have plenty of game speed to spare. So I don't really know how much of an asset he is there.
Really just shocked they went Manning and then Hester.
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Exactly how many of these players drafted will make the Bears team? Seeing as our strong point was defense now the bears drafted strictly defense who gets cut in order for these guys to take over.
My biggest frustration is year in and year out we are drafting guys who will be our next great special team player and yet Angelo hasn't found the replacement. Where's the ownership in these crummy picks? Looks like Angelo, again is expecting our defense to outscore our offense.
What exactly is this Bear football people speak of??? Does this mean if we had a chance at Peyton Manning we would have passed on him because he would not fit Bear football? As offenses and defenses change the Bears need to change accordingly, instead we are stuck in 1960's style football.
Again I apologize for my frustration but the Bears had a chance to shore up their biggest weakness (offense) and they decided to do nothing about it.
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UrlacherIsGod
Footballguy
I (for one) and extremely happy with the Bears draft. Picks 1 & 2 addressed our weakness at CB and Special Teams.
Our 3rd pick was a DT that has a mean streak a mile long. Being an OU fan and a Bears fan, I was totally stoked to see Chicago pick up Dvoracek. This dude was born to play football and hurt opposing QBs. Running him and Tommie together for the first time since 2003 together will turn some heads in the NFL like they did at OU.
Runnels was a steal! IMO, one of the best FBs in the draft. This kid can catch, block, and run. He's like having that TE that everyone is whining about us not getting but, with more speed and better blocking skills.
Our 3rd pick was a DT that has a mean streak a mile long. Being an OU fan and a Bears fan, I was totally stoked to see Chicago pick up Dvoracek. This dude was born to play football and hurt opposing QBs. Running him and Tommie together for the first time since 2003 together will turn some heads in the NFL like they did at OU.
Runnels was a steal! IMO, one of the best FBs in the draft. This kid can catch, block, and run. He's like having that TE that everyone is whining about us not getting but, with more speed and better blocking skills.
boubucarow
Footballguy
This draft has surely added talent that the Bears lacked last season. They have a great kick return tandem, another good pass rush DT, another good pass rush DE, a good run blocker FB, a strong side LB that will challenge Hunter, and possibly a plus range free safety in Manning. I was surprised by their picks early but now I think they really helped their team.
Dvorcek fits the Lovie/Rivera defense better than Scott or Boone and will be expected to replace them ASAP. Anderson will provide a better pass rush backup than Haynes or Inoijie ever have. Runnels is a strong run blocker that will really help at the goalline and Williams should be a better SLB than Hunter.
They decided to fill holes on their defense so that they have the best defense in the league. Their offense will improve greatly. Grossman + Griese will result in good passing and we know about the good rushing. A #1 defense and a top teen offense can win a super bowl. That is why they filled their defensive holes.
Dvorcek fits the Lovie/Rivera defense better than Scott or Boone and will be expected to replace them ASAP. Anderson will provide a better pass rush backup than Haynes or Inoijie ever have. Runnels is a strong run blocker that will really help at the goalline and Williams should be a better SLB than Hunter.
They decided to fill holes on their defense so that they have the best defense in the league. Their offense will improve greatly. Grossman + Griese will result in good passing and we know about the good rushing. A #1 defense and a top teen offense can win a super bowl. That is why they filled their defensive holes.
Yeah right. Where is this top offense going to suddenly appear out of? 
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Desmond Howard won the flippin' Heisman Trophy! I think you're comparing apples to rhubarb here. He scored 23 touchdowns in 11 regular-season games, including a Big Ten Conference-record 19 touchdown receptions. Howard was a member of four consecutive Big Ten championship teams at Michigan (1988-91), traveling to three Rose Bowls.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
WTF are you talking about? Pick one addressed Safety (Angelo is on the record saying that's where Danielle (that's how he pronounces his first name) Manning will playAnd pick two addressed our return game.
Where did we increase our weakness at CB? We have a fourth or fifth stringer now behind Vasher, Tillman and Manning Jr. in Hester? Please... the guy sucks as a CB. Hester is dumb as a box of rocks. You should have heard this guy on the radio. He sounded like Pookie from New Jack City. ....most definitely.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Top teen is 11-15. Grossman and Griese will result in the ability to stretch the field with passes to Berrian and Bradley. If either of those receivers steps up and Muhsin catches the ball, this could be a very quality offense. Add in a major upgrade in the return game and a refortification of the team's defensive strength, this team has the pieces to be a much better team next year. Of course, it hinges on the Berrians, Bradleys, and Mannings of the team.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Was being tongue-in-cheek there. Obviously, when he was drafted, Howard was intended to be more than KR/PR. But, in the end, all the Skins did was draft a KR/PR with the #4 pick.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Hoping that Hester is anything but a return man is unreasonable.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Nothing personal, boub. I just disagree. I don't see our offense coming together anymore than it ever has. Will there be some improvement? It couldn't get much worse than last year so probably. That still doesn't mean much imo. I really hope I'm wrong though. I want the Bears to be good so badly. And by good, I mean compete with the top teams in the league. Something that haven't done consistently since I was child. Obviously, I'm very dissappointed with this draft. For the life of me, I don't understand how you could have such a terrible offense and not go after any offensive players in the draft. Yet, you have top ranked defense and go after defensive players. I just don't get it. :(Top teen is 11-15. Grossman and Griese will result in the ability to stretch the field with passes to Berrian and Bradley. If either of those receivers steps up and Muhsin catches the ball, this could be a very quality offense. Add in a major upgrade in the return game and a refortification of the team's defensive strength, this team has the pieces to be a much better team next year. Of course, it hinges on the Berrians, Bradleys, and Mannings of the team.
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
If Angelo would have said Hester will be a returner and stretch the field as a WR, he'd be getting a LOT less grief in Chicago.
He is absolutely getting SKEWERED.
He keeps rambling on about "we're returning 22 starters..."
Guess what numb nuts, your 22 starters didn't win a playoff game. The White Sox won the World Series and STILL replaced almost a third of their roster, including a starting pitcher, DH and center fielder.
Aggressive GMs win. Apathetic GMs flounder.
He is absolutely getting SKEWERED.
He keeps rambling on about "we're returning 22 starters..."
Guess what numb nuts, your 22 starters didn't win a playoff game. The White Sox won the World Series and STILL replaced almost a third of their roster, including a starting pitcher, DH and center fielder.
Aggressive GMs win. Apathetic GMs flounder.
Fantasy_Freak
Footballguy
I don't understand how guys can claim a 29 rated offense can become a 11 - 15 offense when they did NOTHING to help the offense. This may seem a bit excessive but after the trade down why not try to get Javon Walker??? Imagine our offense with Mush and Walker. Oh yea, thats right having two wide receivers is not Bears football. If we can not find a coordinator to run a competent offense with those WR then it is time to move on. Here comes another season of 3 and outs with the hopes that our defense scores more than our ofense.EDIT: Angelo on in 10 minutes on Mike and Mike, interested to hear what he says.
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Rounders
Footballguy
This sums it all up Grid. I'm starting to serious beleive that the Bears will never win a Super Bowl as long as the McCaskeys own the team.Poor leadership at the top, and it just trickles down throughout the organization.
I understand that this draft the Bears plugged some holes and didn't feel the need to add an impact player becuase they are returning 22 starters. But this was the one time that the Bears could have really put some distance between themselves and the NFC North. Take a chance on a couple of players, because if they really beleive that those 22 starters are great, what do you have to lose.
Here's to a 9-7 team next year.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
Mel Kiper liked the draft a lot more than you guys.
Chicago Bears: Grade B
The Bears traded out of the first round and were still able to get secondary help in Danieal Manning. Devin Hester is a great athlete, but is he a cornerback or wide receiver? Hester will help the Bears in the return game. Dusty Dvoracek will get worked into the rotation at defensive tackle, and I really like the pick of defensive end Mark Anderson in the fifth round. J.D. Runnels could start as a rookie at fullback and was a great find in the sixth round. I was surprised they didn't address needs at tight end and wide receiver.
Chicago Bears: Grade B
The Bears traded out of the first round and were still able to get secondary help in Danieal Manning. Devin Hester is a great athlete, but is he a cornerback or wide receiver? Hester will help the Bears in the return game. Dusty Dvoracek will get worked into the rotation at defensive tackle, and I really like the pick of defensive end Mark Anderson in the fifth round. J.D. Runnels could start as a rookie at fullback and was a great find in the sixth round. I was surprised they didn't address needs at tight end and wide receiver.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Let's hear what would be aggressive? What should of the Bears done? Signing the top rated free agent WR for $30mil? Drafting a top rated RB in the draft? Face it, Bears "fans" piss and moan every year about the moves they make and won't be happy without a ring. People are acting like getting a TE would solve all. Do people think Emery Moorehead put them over the top in 85? Do people think grabbing Chad Jackson from an incredibly weak WR draft would turn it all around? Fans skewered Angelo for taking Benson when "they already had a RB". Fans hated spending so much when they went after Muhammy. Fans loved it when the Bears drafted a big time college WR David Terrell. The D is good, but was exposed big time in the playoffs, and that wasn't just coaching. Resting on the laurels of last years #2 ranked D is passive. Getting Griese was a good move. Addressing a floundering return game was a good move. Having a deep RB stable is a good move. Increasing team speed was a good move. I'm just not sure what else they were supposed to do to be "aggressive". People can argue that on paper other players might of projected higher, but I believe the Bears addressed needs and the jury is out on ALL the players drafted until the season starts.
Some of you are B******* enough that you sound like Cub Fans. 
However Angelo is spinning it I do not care. It would be better if he just did not talk at all. The fact remains the plan obviously backfired but the end result was not THAT bad. The Bears did not address the CB or WR positions in this draft but I do not feel the WR group was all that bad to begin with. They are playing within the system. The talent is there IMO. They MUST open it up and throw downfield. Still I was dumbfounded they passed on Jackson...
I'd like to see them add some vets come June. If they do not I'll be VERY disappointed. I'm excited about the upcoming season and the offense will be MUCH better. The running game is still there and with a whole preseason and training camp of Grossman and the WR will be the best thing. If he goes down we have Griese (better than Orton) and he is serviceable.
However Angelo is spinning it I do not care. It would be better if he just did not talk at all. The fact remains the plan obviously backfired but the end result was not THAT bad. The Bears did not address the CB or WR positions in this draft but I do not feel the WR group was all that bad to begin with. They are playing within the system. The talent is there IMO. They MUST open it up and throw downfield. Still I was dumbfounded they passed on Jackson...
I'd like to see them add some vets come June. If they do not I'll be VERY disappointed. I'm excited about the upcoming season and the offense will be MUCH better. The running game is still there and with a whole preseason and training camp of Grossman and the WR will be the best thing. If he goes down we have Griese (better than Orton) and he is serviceable.
Don't the Bears have the easiest (or one of) schedules next year? No way on 9-7.This sums it all up Grid. I'm starting to serious beleive that the Bears will never win a Super Bowl as long as the McCaskeys own the team.Poor leadership at the top, and it just trickles down throughout the organization.
I understand that this draft the Bears plugged some holes and didn't feel the need to add an impact player becuase they are returning 22 starters. But this was the one time that the Bears could have really put some distance between themselves and the NFC North. Take a chance on a couple of players, because if they really beleive that those 22 starters are great, what do you have to lose.
Here's to a 9-7 team next year.
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ericttspikes
Footballguy
Javon Walker, I can hear it now. We paid what for a guy with a shredded ACL, what were they thinking. As for competent offense, in 99 the Bears had a great O, 3rd in passing yards and 8th overall, and won 6 games. Bears have always been about D, for better or worse.
EDIT: Angelo on in 10 minutes on Mike and Mike, interested to hear what he says.
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SecondCity34
Footballguy
I wholeheartedly agree. Angelo is in over his head and showed what a joke he is in this weekend's draft. The Bears were lucky to win 11 games last season. I don't know why everyone is so high on Mark Bradley when he hasn't proven "richard" when he has been healthy enough to be on the field. Justin Gage sucks. Bernard Berrian may be an average # 2 WR eventually, but the jury is still out. "F" Javon Walker. Anderson in the 5th round was the only pick to get semi-excited about at this point. The rest of the players they drafted were reaches/projects. And don't even get me started on them not taking Marcedes Lewis....Grade: D+
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jbird5150
Footballguy
Thank GOD someone finally came to their senses here. Him speak truth. Angelo is obviously looking ahead to the June cuts knowing he's going to get an EXPERIENCED tight end, as well a #2/#3 possible WR.
The main reason we were the 29th ranked offense last season is because WE HAD A ROOKIE QB. C'mon guys, Kyle was thrown to the wolves. Sure, he made the occasional nice throw, but most of them were behind, ahead, or over the receivers. So whaddya do? You hand off to TJ, who, besides seeing stacked lines all season, puts up over 1300 yards.
Anyone remember how night and day the offense was when Rex came in for Kyle? All of a sudden, we had poise in the pocket and touch on the passes. If he stays injury free this year (and that's the key factor), we got us an offense that can actually win games instead of just scrape a first down or two to give the defense a breather. The Rams of the late 90s? Not by a long shot...but good enough. And in Chicago, with that defense, good enough can take you pretty far.
And as for the playoff game, our offense didn't lose. It was poor coaching and defensive planning that lost the game. But if I remember correctly, the offense played a pretty big part in putting 22 on a darn good Carlina D. If we can put up 20 plus on a consistent basis in 06-07....
Folks, we got the easiest schedule in the league next year and a team that won 11 games last year. It's not the loser mentality that we've had for the last 10-15 years. They've tasted winning, and they KNOW they can win.
Finally, let's look at the Bears draft compared to the Broncos, which everyone is glowing over. The Broncos were the #5 offense last year and scored around 25 a game. So what did they do? 5 out of 6 picks were offense. Yet they're being praised while the Bears are being crucified.
To quote Kevin Bacon at the end of "Animal House"...Do Not Panic! ALL IS WELL!
As for the Javon Walker suggestion, do you seriously think our biggest rivals would hand over their Pro Bowl reciever to us? In division trades are rare enough, but this would have taken an act of God.
And as for the dude who suggested we lose 7 games this year...just show me which ones we're supposed to lose. That's gotta be the most inane comment on this thread so far.
Steelers maybe, but not the Bears.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
This is a ridiculous post.Yeah. Most fans will complain no matter what the Bears do. Whatever dude.
That's simply a gross generalization that's not true. Here's the truth. Some Bears fans actually think their team can make mistakes, unlike some others around here. Personally, I've been happy with a lot of the recent moves the Bears have made before now."Resting on the laurels of the #2 ranked defense" and addressing your pitiful offense is not a bad idea imo. And I've always liked the "increasing team speed" argument too. That's a good one.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
so what would of you done? Everyone is smarter than the GM after the draft, let's hear it.
slatercove1
Footballguy
I think the draft showed the Bears are quite confident in Bradley and/or Berrian. I still would of addressed WR even if you were looking for a #4. Perhaps they see Currie making strides. Gage is horrible. Being a big WR isn't an asset if you don't play like a big WR and aren't the quickest to begin with.
PsychoMan
Footballguy
Agreed ... I am not so down on the Bears draft like so many out there. What would those of you who are down on the draft done differently to improve the terrible offense? With the #25 (or so) pick, what really could have been done?The Bears could have picked up a WR ... but he will be a #2 on the team at best. Bradley was a 2nd rounder the year before, and has 1 yr experience in the Bears system. What makes you think any of the available wideouts is so much better than him, or Berrian? Moose is a great WR, but was unable to do anything last year with the Bears offense, so I don't think a rookie from this yrs crop of wideouts is going to change the Bears offense very drastically.
They sure as heck weren't going to draft a QB or RB, so what does that leave, a TE or OL? I would rather see the Bears draft a DB, and keep the defense strong and give it some more depth.
just my opinion, but i also want to know what others would have done differently
SecondCity34
Footballguy
Just my $.02:Round 2, Pick 42 Sinorice Moss WR/KR/PR Miami (FL)
Round 2, Pick 57 Richard Marshall, CB, Fresno State
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Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
Round 3, Pick 73 David Thomas, TE, Texas
Round 4, Pick 120 Jamar Williams, OLB, Arizona St. - know nothing about him, but the Bears do need depth here for this year and someone who could possibly step in if Briggs or Hillenmayer are not re-signed. At least Angelo addressed a need here.
Round 5, Pick 159 Mark Anderson, DE, Alabama - sure, why not.
Round 6, Pick 195 JD Runnels, FB, Oklahoma - good back-up fullback/special teams player/insurance if starting FB gets hurt again. Again, Angelo addressed somewhat of a need.
Round 6, Pick 200 Zach Streif, OT, Northwestern - Bears need depth at OT.
This would have addressed the average receiving corps, the poor special teams return game, the weak tight end position, the concern about Briggs/Hillenmayer leaving in '07, the loss of Azumah and below-average play of Charles Tillman late last season, and also provided depth to some key positions.
The stand-out safeties were taken early in the draft, so I would have looked to engineer a trade for a safety in case Mike Brown gets hurt again or Chris Harris doesn't develop as planned.
Again, this is just my opinion.
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ericttspikes
Footballguy
I really thought they'd take Moss too. I don't really know much about Marshall but he was rated highly. Moss, Marshall and Youboty seemed to go lower than projected. I know nothing about D. Manning other than the post draft film, but do like that he going to play SS but seems to be able to play a couple of positions if needed.The Bears have invested in WRs over the last few drafts and spent tall bucks on MM, maybe they just want to see what they have there. Who knows.
Rounders
Footballguy
That would be me. All I know is that watching the 17 games the Bears played last year, they always played to their opponents level. Yes there were some games that they dominanted, but some others they should have won and didn't (Cleveland). Do I really think that they will lose 7 games, not really. But in the NFL teams get better fast, and the difference between 11-5 and 9-7 is two plays.Thank GOD someone finally came to their senses here. Him speak truth. Angelo is obviously looking ahead to the June cuts knowing he's going to get an EXPERIENCED tight end, as well a #2/#3 possible WR.
The main reason we were the 29th ranked offense last season is because WE HAD A ROOKIE QB. C'mon guys, Kyle was thrown to the wolves. Sure, he made the occasional nice throw, but most of them were behind, ahead, or over the receivers. So whaddya do? You hand off to TJ, who, besides seeing stacked lines all season, puts up over 1300 yards.
Anyone remember how night and day the offense was when Rex came in for Kyle? All of a sudden, we had poise in the pocket and touch on the passes. If he stays injury free this year (and that's the key factor), we got us an offense that can actually win games instead of just scrape a first down or two to give the defense a breather. The Rams of the late 90s? Not by a long shot...but good enough. And in Chicago, with that defense, good enough can take you pretty far.
And as for the playoff game, our offense didn't lose. It was poor coaching and defensive planning that lost the game. But if I remember correctly, the offense played a pretty big part in putting 22 on a darn good Carlina D. If we can put up 20 plus on a consistent basis in 06-07....
Folks, we got the easiest schedule in the league next year and a team that won 11 games last year. It's not the loser mentality that we've had for the last 10-15 years. They've tasted winning, and they KNOW they can win.
Finally, let's look at the Bears draft compared to the Broncos, which everyone is glowing over. The Broncos were the #5 offense last year and scored around 25 a game. So what did they do? 5 out of 6 picks were offense. Yet they're being praised while the Bears are being crucified.
To quote Kevin Bacon at the end of "Animal House"...Do Not Panic! ALL IS WELL!
As for the Javon Walker suggestion, do you seriously think our biggest rivals would hand over their Pro Bowl reciever to us? In division trades are rare enough, but this would have taken an act of God.
And as for the dude who suggested we lose 7 games this year...just show me which ones we're supposed to lose. That's gotta be the most inane comment on this thread so far.
Steelers maybe, but not the Bears.
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MSULions
Footballguy
it's easy to say they have an easy schedule now, but this is the NFL, and nothing is certain. a few teams favored to suck won't, and vice versa. i can easily pick 7 games they could or will lose:And as for the dude who suggested we lose 7 games this year...just show me which ones we're supposed to lose. That's gotta be the most inane comment on this thread so far.
Steelers maybe, but not the Bears.
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@ MN
SEA
@ AZ
MIA
@ NYG
@ NE
TB
@ DET
There's 8.....it's easy to prognosticate now, but we shall see. The Bears can just as easily end up 8-8 or 7-9 as they can 11-5 again. I think the former is FAR more likely, considering they have done nothing to upgrade the offense, and their patented 2005 1 yard scoring drives aren't exactly guaranteed to continue.
jbird5150
Footballguy
Steeler fans should know. Nick Harper cuts to the sideline instead of towards the middle, and the Lombardi trophy is sitting in somebody else's office right now. We'll see. Last year, everybody here had the Bears on the clock for the 06 draft before snap one. Even the brilliant minds at SI put us dead last in the league.
This year, it's a different story. Count on it.
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Rounders
Footballguy
I hope you are right.Steeler fans should know. Nick Harper cuts to the sideline instead of towards the middle, and the Lombardi trophy is sitting in somebody else's office right now. We'll see. Last year, everybody here had the Bears on the clock for the 06 draft before snap one. Even the brilliant minds at SI put us dead last in the league.
This year, it's a different story. Count on it.
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ericttspikes
Footballguy
For those who missed it, Bears signed Tim Day, TE Oregon, which is a great pick-up. Crowton hosed him last year, but he was awesome in 04.
Tim Day- TE- Oregon 6'3" 256 4.78
Pros: Great size with lots of potential. Productive pass catcher, lines up in the slot as a WR occasionally, can get downfield, good speed, great hands, doesn’t drop passes, red zone target, good strength, breaks tackles easily, can turn short plays into long ones, good run blocker, controls his man well, good pass blocker as well.
Cons: Has had a few minor injuries in the past, dropoff in production because of QB injuries, lacks intensity, needs to just keep working on techniques and get better. Still hasn't tapped hid potential and his dedication is starting to become a concern.
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Marcedes Lewis may be the best receiving Tight End, Vernon Davis may be the most athletic, and Leonard Pope might be the biggest, but Tim Day is the most balanced. Tim Day has all the tools necessary to be successful at the next level, size (6’4” 265 lbs) speed (4.7 40 time) and strength (390 lb bench, 505 lb squat). While Day has the potential and talent to be a great Tight End, he has been slowed down his college career by minor injuries (should injury in 2003, foot injury in 2004). He also hasn’t produced like Marcedes Lewis, Vernon Davis, and Leonard Pope have. Despite all this, I still feel that his talent and potential is too great to be ignored, and in the right system, can flourish. Tim Day will be best fit with a team that needs a good Tight End that can block and catch well, a team seeking balance.
One Word T Describe Day: Balanced
Most Like: Ben Troupe (Tennessee Titans)
Best Fits: Houston, Chicago, Carolina, Cincinnati, New Orleans
Projected: Round 3
Dwyne Slay- SS- Texas Tech 6'3" 216 4.8
Pros: HUGE hitter, a deadly tackler, great size, very athletic, can make plays, forces A LOT of fumbles.
Cons: Will miss tackles going for the big hit, not very fast, needs to work on his coverage skills, inexperienced, only started 1 year.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
: Dwayne Slay isn’t the best safety in the draft, but is probably the biggest hitter in all of college football and does just what his name says – Slays. He is a HUGE hitter and forces fumbles regularly. He is a great safety in terms of tackling. However, Slay needs to improve upon his coverage skills and not be so risky. Whoever gets him is going to get a QB destroyer.
Most Like: Sean Taylor (Washington Redskins)
Best Fits: New England, Oakland, Denver
Projected Round 4
Josh Huston- K Ohio State
Considered the best K in the draft
Projected Round 6
Tim Day- TE- Oregon 6'3" 256 4.78
Pros: Great size with lots of potential. Productive pass catcher, lines up in the slot as a WR occasionally, can get downfield, good speed, great hands, doesn’t drop passes, red zone target, good strength, breaks tackles easily, can turn short plays into long ones, good run blocker, controls his man well, good pass blocker as well.
Cons: Has had a few minor injuries in the past, dropoff in production because of QB injuries, lacks intensity, needs to just keep working on techniques and get better. Still hasn't tapped hid potential and his dedication is starting to become a concern.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
Marcedes Lewis may be the best receiving Tight End, Vernon Davis may be the most athletic, and Leonard Pope might be the biggest, but Tim Day is the most balanced. Tim Day has all the tools necessary to be successful at the next level, size (6’4” 265 lbs) speed (4.7 40 time) and strength (390 lb bench, 505 lb squat). While Day has the potential and talent to be a great Tight End, he has been slowed down his college career by minor injuries (should injury in 2003, foot injury in 2004). He also hasn’t produced like Marcedes Lewis, Vernon Davis, and Leonard Pope have. Despite all this, I still feel that his talent and potential is too great to be ignored, and in the right system, can flourish. Tim Day will be best fit with a team that needs a good Tight End that can block and catch well, a team seeking balance.
One Word T Describe Day: Balanced
Most Like: Ben Troupe (Tennessee Titans)
Best Fits: Houston, Chicago, Carolina, Cincinnati, New Orleans
Projected: Round 3
Dwyne Slay- SS- Texas Tech 6'3" 216 4.8
Pros: HUGE hitter, a deadly tackler, great size, very athletic, can make plays, forces A LOT of fumbles.
Cons: Will miss tackles going for the big hit, not very fast, needs to work on his coverage skills, inexperienced, only started 1 year.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
: Dwayne Slay isn’t the best safety in the draft, but is probably the biggest hitter in all of college football and does just what his name says – Slays. He is a HUGE hitter and forces fumbles regularly. He is a great safety in terms of tackling. However, Slay needs to improve upon his coverage skills and not be so risky. Whoever gets him is going to get a QB destroyer.
Most Like: Sean Taylor (Washington Redskins)
Best Fits: New England, Oakland, Denver
Projected Round 4
Josh Huston- K Ohio State
Considered the best K in the draft
Projected Round 6
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JNox3
Footballguy
For you Bears fans that haven't figured it out here's the story. It's been the story for a long time. The Bears do NOT like to spend money. They had an oppurtunity to get a WR with the 1st round pick. Chad Jackson was the highest rated WR on a lot of people's board and what to they do...they trade away the pick. They traded it away so they don't have to worry about spending the $$$ that it takes to sign a first round pick.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Which is also why they took a DII guy who's ecstatic to go high second round. Should be an easy negotiation. He holds out, he's going nowhere.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
It's WAY too early to make that prediction, as these rookies haven't even played a down yet.....John Allred never got drafted in the first round. That pick was traded for Rick Mirer.
1997 Draft
Pick, Round, Pick in Round, Overall Pick, Name, Position and College
1 2 8 38 John Allred TE USC
2 3 9 69 Bob Sapp G Washington
3 4 9 105 Darnell Autry RB Northwestern
4 4 12 108 Marcus Robinson WR South Carolina
5 5 11 141 Van Hiles DB Kentucky
6 6 33 196 Shawn Swayda DT Arizona State
7 6 37 200 Richard Hogans LB Memphis
8 6 38 201 Ricky Parker DB San Diego State
9 7 9 210 Mike Miano DT SW Missouri State
10 7 32 233 Marvin Thomas DE Memphis
That was one of their worst draft classes of all time though.
Marcus Robinson was a 4th round pick, but Wannstedt couldn't stand the guy and NEVER played him. Then when Wanny left, M-Rob flourished during McNown's rookie season. The Bears signed him to large coin, then he got hurt and has pretty much sucked since....
The best pick from that draft class: Bob Sapp, who went on to have a stellar career.... not in the NFL though.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
The Bears don't like to spend money? What are you, nuts? They paid top dollar for John Tait and Moose Muhammed in free agency, when other teams were clamoring for those guys.And late first round picks don't cost jack squat to sign... It's not like the guy would be due the amount of money that Cedric Benson commanded at pick #4 last year.
They drafted David Terrell and Curtis Conway VERY high in the first round. So it can't be said they're not willing to draft a WR in the first round.
Regarding Chad Jackson, name me three Florida WRs in recent memory that has done ANYTHING worthwhile in the NFL. Three words: 'System Wide Receivers'.
They traded down, because at that juncture in the draft they had the players similarly graded - and they wanted to get back the 3rd round draft pick they had to give up when they signed CB Ricky Manning Jr.
I thought their draft sucked, but who knows....
ericttspikes
Footballguy
For the Hester haters:
Devin Hester 1 TD
Leonard Pope 0 TD
Devin Hester 1 TD
Leonard Pope 0 TD
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Personally, I wanted a top-flight TE from the school I was graduating from (Lewis). But I also understand where the Hester pick was coming from.And Go Bears.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Devin Hester 2 TDs
Leonard Pope 0
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