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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (5 Viewers)
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Doug B
Footballguy
I wrote a long pithy post and then accidentally deleted it. So I'll be brief here: The "raccoon dog" story had legs for about a month, then got more or less discredited after other researchers looked closely at the same data and did not corroborate the first study's findings.
And yes, old-line major media outlets did report on the March raccoon dog study getting kneecapped. The walkback wasn't swept under a rug (again, maybe social media failed to keep up).
Raccoon dogs in Wuhan 'did not spread Covid to humans'
New in-depth genetic analysis suggests there is barely any Covid-19 intermixed with raccoon dog DNA
www.telegraph.co.uk
Scientist Revisits Data on Raccoon Dogs and Covid, Stressing the Unknowns
After analyzing genetic data swabbed from a Wuhan market in early 2020, a virologist said it was unclear if animals for sale there had been infected.
How the Media Botched the Raccoon Dog Theory of Covid-19
“I think it is very unclear how SARS-CoV-2 first entered humans.”
theintercept.com
Inside the COVID Origins Raccoon Dog Cage Match
The small community of researchers studying COVID-19’s origins erupted into open conflict recently over access to data from the pandemic’s early days. With former China CDC director George F. Gao telling VF a lab leak can’t be ruled out, and leading Western scientists sticking to their...
Raccoon dogs did not start COVID-19, new study says
Skeptics have maintained that there were scant grounds for the assertion that raccoon dogs were the pandemic’s intermediate species, if the only evidence for that claim was the presence of viral and animal DNA in the same market stall in a crowded marketplace.
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The Commish
Footballguy
I'm pretty proud of the fact, I never heard about the racoon dog story....seriously, you guys should try a complete rejection of US news media....just try it....just once...for like a month
Rich Conway
Footballguy
I hadn't either. I thought IvanK was being facetious in the earlier post.
The Commish
Footballguy
me too!!
Wingnut
Footballguy
Welp, I'm no longer immortal. After 3 and a half years of ducking the virus (even when my wife got it 2 years ago, I managed to not get it somehow), I brought home a raging case of Covid (as well as a sprained ankle) from my trip to Pittsburgh last week. Finally tested negative yesterday, but the past 10 days were ROUGH, and that Paxlovid metallic taste is really something awful.
I just want to feel normal again, but I think it's gonna be a while.
I just want to feel normal again, but I think it's gonna be a while.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Hydroxychloroquine (Oral Route) Description and Brand Names - Mayo Clinic
www.mayoclinic.org
Umm, what's that now?
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Finally. Small sample size, but hopefully useful for the future.
www.forbes.com
Researchers Develop Algorithm To Predict Whether A Person Gets Long Covid
Researchers with Mount Sinai Hospital and Yale University say they’re the first to identify specific blood biomarkers that can accurately identify long Covid—allowing ...
www.forbes.com
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Spring 2021 I had the same concerns, I currently have no concerns. Hopefully you will be 100% soon.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Sucks GB and that Paxlovid taste is f'ing horrible, almost as bad getting Covid again.I've been laid out since Sunday, this is the worst I've been sick in a very long time. I can't stay awake for **** and get winded just getting up to go to the bathroomI'm going to Vegas next Saturday for 4 days so I'm hoping this runs its course over the next 7 days and I'm able to enjoy it.
Tested positive yesterday morning. Placed a call to my doc and after a telehealth chat, got Paxlovid prescribed to me. 1st dose down by noon. I feel a little better but I'm tired and get exhausted doing little things like cleaning cat litter, taking trash out, going up stairs. I want to sleep but it is a restless sleep at best with constant wakeup. Headache and fever still around. No appetite at all.
The bitter metallic taste Paxlovid leaves in my mouth might be the worst of it, though. I'm chewing gum like Pete Carroll over here.
I've got tickets to the Deion show Saturday so I'm hoping I kick it by then!
ETA: triple vaxxed this is my first rodeo with Covid. Only one in my family to escape it until now.
Monday - Went to bed with teeth-chattering chills. Took Motrin around 2am. Woke up 330am drenched in sweat.
Tues - Tested positive that morning, fever, headache, fatigue. Telehealth visit with doctor's office. Got Paxlovid prescribed to me and first dose in by noon. Slept most of the day and night.
Wed - Still fever, no appetitive, exhausted. Sore throat came on during the night.
Thurs - Woke up, no fever, but sore throat and still tired. This was when I said *ENOUGH*. Got out of bed, took the dog to play 18 holes of disc golf in the sunny weather. Best decision I made. Even cracked a beer and took an edible. Felt hungry for the first time around 2pm.
Fri - Sore throat only. Played 18 with the dog, stayed outside most of the day, edible, beers, giant crawfish po'boy. By early evening I was back to 100%.
Sat - Woke up at 7am, no more sore throat. No nothing. On to Eugene for PRIME TIME game. Walked about 4-5 miles, no fatigue, no lingering anything, 100% GM strength.
That was my battle with Covid. Paxlovid absolutely helped turn the tide for me, but yes, this aftertaste is probably worse than some of the effects of Covid.
FatMax
Member
I got Covid in April of this year for the first time. Didn't really get super sick, and all in all, symptomatically, it wasn't any worse for me than any other garden variety cold. Except for one thing ... I kinda had a brain fog that hung on for 3-4 weeks following. Had a hard time concentrating at times just felt a little out of it, for lack of a better description. I few other people I know felt the same way. Just hang in there. Most likely it will pass.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Are folks getting the new booster? I’m on the fence. Got both shots, first booster, 2nd biavalent boister. I’m 50, overweight, and on 5 pills for blood pressure and cholesterol. Got Covid once too, in between boosters. First few days were rough, then was ok (did not take paxlovid). Got Bell’s palsy two months after my second booster.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Good luck brother. I hope whatever decision you make is the right one for you!
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I know like 8-10 people who had Covid recently and they all had it worse this time than prior infections.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
There never took the vaccine, right?
Dezbelief
Footballguy
I would not get the booster.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I got mine but I was partially motivated by wanting protection for an upcoming trip to Hawaii that had been previously cancelled twice due to covid.
I’ve heard rumblings that some professionals think it may not be worth it for some because the protection against getting it is fleeting and we already have the protection against severe disease from previous shots. Not sure how those cards fell.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
51, healthy weight on no meds. I'm getting it as soon as possible.
My coworker just had it for 3rd time. She's fully Boosted and everything. She said it was really rough. The worst of the 3. Then she told me I should get Boosted. Yeah really helped in her case. She said the paxlovid really helped.
Gotta be out of your mind at this point when it clearly doesn't prevent infection and paxlovid is available for rough cases.
Edit: except for the elderly IMO
The Commish
Footballguy
Think about it this way....every time your body is exposed to foreign proteins, it strengthens your immune response. Your philosophy with the flu shot should extend to COVID vaccines.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
She got it after the booster they just released? How long after?
No, don't think she got new booster yet. I'm assuming last booster she got was last year's.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Do you think the sprained ankle was a result of Covid or of the vaccine?Welp, I'm no longer immortal. After 3 and a half years of ducking the virus (even when my wife got it 2 years ago, I managed to not get it somehow), I brought home a raging case of Covid (as well as a sprained ankle) from my trip to Pittsburgh last week. Finally tested negative yesterday, but the past 10 days were ROUGH, and that Paxlovid metallic taste is really something awful.
I just want to feel normal again, but I think it's gonna be a while.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
SARS-CoV-2 infects coronary arteries, increases plaque inflammation
NIH-funded research sheds light on link between COVID-19 infection and increased risk of cardiovascular disease and stroke.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Got my Covid booster on Wednesday. Moderna for the first time and it's kind of kicking my *** a bit.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Why are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women. 
LawFitz
Footballguy
Sounds like a compromised immune system.
The Commish
Footballguy
My bout didn't last long enough to get to the doctor to get a prescription.Why are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women.
Sleestak
Footballguy
Why are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women.
I took it because I wanted to reduce the amount time that I felt like crap. It crushed COVID immediately, and I didn't have a rebound. 53 years old, zero comorbidities.
It isn't in short supply, so what's the issue?
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I asked my doc about it when I got it last January. She said I was in that in-between phase (50, no comorbidities) where I could take it but didn't need to. I opted not to and it ended up being a very mild caseWhy are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Why are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women.
Because COVID symptoms suck *** and Paxlovid makes them go away faster?
Yes, there is the chance of a rebound, but I'd take two relatively short mild cases over one that really kicks my ***.
The Commish
Footballguy
Curious for those who have been vaccinated and then gotten COVID. When you got vaccinated, how "tough" was it on you? Then, when you got COVID, was it better/worse/about the same as when you got vaccinated? Vaccines for me were a problem (have the first three). I was laid up 2-3 days per booster. When I finally got COVID after 3.5 years, I was out of pocket for a day maybe a day and a half and the fever didn't last nearly as long...it was the sheer volume of crap in my head that was the hardest part which I didn't experience with vaccinations.
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Planning to get the booster in the next few weeks, but would prefer to branch out from Moderna with the thought that it might offer some kind of extra protection. Pfizer is readily available around me, but I am intrigued about Novavax from a YLE email and can't find it locally.
Anyone know the status?
Anyone know the status?
Osaurus
Footballguy
Vaccine and boosters were nothing for me (slight soreness at injection sites). When I got COVID, it was pretty mild. No fever and just a scratchy throat mostly. I would say symptoms lasted about 3 days and it wasn’t half as annoying as some stubborn head colds I’ve previously had. This was last year so I haven’t experienced the new strain yet. I skipped one booster bc it didn’t seem worth it, but have received the latest booster.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
My second vaccine dose made me fairly sick. Like a pretty solid cold for maybe 24 hours. That was the only dose that I had a significant reaction to.
When I had covid this spring, it was nothing. I only tested myself on a lark because we had some tests laying around. I was mildly sick for a couple of days and then felt completely fine through most of my quarantine. I think my vaccine symptoms were actually more severe than my covid symptoms, but covid lasted a few days longer and neither was any big deal. If the vaccine was responsible for turning covid into something akin to the common cold, I absolutely consider that a win.
Doug B
Footballguy
When you got vaccinated, how "tough" was it on you? Not bad -- injection-site soreness and general soreness of the deltoid for about a day and change (still present on day 2, but much abated). A wave of fatigue hits me after every COVID vaccination (I've had five to date), but that specific reaction has always been delayed by almost a full day after the vaccination. So I'd get a shot, say, Wednesday afternoon. I'd have the deltoid soreness, but otherwise be fine until about mid-day Thursday. By then, I needed to sleep. I'd go lay down, get up after a few hours, have dinner, watch TV, and then go to bed early. By Friday morning, I'd feel fine and ready to resume life -- deltoid soreness gone and fatigue gone.
Then, when you got COVID, was it better/worse/about the same as when you got vaccinated? COVID lasted roughly a week -- much longer than the vaccine reaction -- and had much more annoying symptoms (congestion, coughing, post-nasal drip, fatigue). My COVID symptoms, FWIW, were pretty squarely seated in my sinus and nasal passages. I didn't have chest congestion -- whatever I was coughing up was coming from nasal drip.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Precisely the same. 3 vaccinations, zero side effects on any of them other than some funky swelling under the armpit of where I got the shot, which didn't last long. My timeline with Covid is in this thread. Like Osaurus said, it wasn't all that bad overall, though the first couple days were sucky. But I'd rather have that than the flu or the norovirus, which I also had this year. That one sucks way worse.
FatMax
Member
I had the Pfizer version, plus two Pfizer boosters. None really had much effect on me. The first left me with a sore shoulder for a couple of days. With the two boosters, I had zero side effects.
I got Covid for the first time in April, about six months after my last booster. I started to feel "off" on Saturday, and woke up Sunday and knew I had something. Later that day I had a positive covid test. I spend the next five days at home, but by Thursday/Friday I felt mostly normal. Honestly, I've had colds that were much worse. No fever, no sore throat. Mainly I had sinus congestion and a cough from draining sinuses. My chest and lungs were fine. Like everyone else, I have no real idea if it would have been worse without the vax, but as minor as it was for me, I'm going to keep getting boosters if available.
Edit ... I did have sort of a brain fog for a couple weeks following. Probably covid related, or I could have been hyper-sensitive about how dumb I really am.
Doug B
Footballguy
Anecdotally: From the people I've known who have had COVID and are ~40 or over, "brain fog", "hard to concentrate", "too tired to think sometimes" and similar have been very common complaints after getting over the respiratory symptom. The women that owns/runs our company was reporting concentration problems a yeah and half after her COVID infection (pre-vaccine) -- she's in her late 50s, but lives in the gym (and looks it).
Covid was much worse for me than both shots & booster.
Sleestak
Footballguy
My reaction to each vaccine shot was the same. 24 hours, mild soreness and malaise, no fever or other cold symptoms.
My first and only COVID infection happened 2 months ago. It was worse than the vaccine. I had fever of between 100 and 101 degrees. Tylenol would knock down the fever for a while. I had nothing going on in my lungs, but considerable sinus activity. Energy level down a bit but not crippling. I pulled the Paxlovid rip cord at 48 hours because I was tired of dealing with it, and boy did it work (or I just happened to fight off the VID right around then). Kind of wish I had fought it for another day, but that is water under the bridge.
The Commish
Footballguy
So far, looks like I'm in the minority where the vaccines impacted me more than the virus itself...don't know what that means (if anything) but it's interesting.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I took it 4 days in cuz I didn't know I had Covid til then, and as bad as I felt, I was willing to do anything to feel better or shorten the symptoms. I have no idea if it helped, but I didn't test positive til 6 days later, which was last Saturday. Yesterday was the first day I felt normal with no after effects.Why are folks taking paxlovid? I thought that was really reserved for high risk people? My friend’s wife took it last week, and now has a rebound case. My sister was the same a few months ago. Both normal healthy women.
I only got the first vaccine (J&J) a year and a half ago because I was traveling and had to have proof. I haven't got any boosters. The vaccine knocked me down for about 24 hours. Got Covid recently and it was much worse and lasted 10 days.
Sleestak
Footballguy
My wife hasn't had a case of COVID yet, but the vaccine just tears her up. Basically the same as what you described. Down for the count for 3 days. Very painful muscles and joints, bad headache, nausea (due to the pain). She has rheumatoid arthritis, which we suspect is the culprit.
So far she has only done Pfizer. I wouldn't blame her if she never took another MRNA COVID shot. I have spoken to her about considering Novavax since it is supposed to result in milder reactions.
The Commish
Footballguy
yikes...yeah, I had a fever and was tired. I didn't have terrible muscle issues or anything. For one of the shots, I had a REALLY bad headache for a day...like what I'd imagine a migraine to be like.
