CurlyNight
Footballguy
God help NY. They are our Italy now.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (6 Viewers)
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Stay home people. The next 2 weeks will be telling. I really hope the measures already taken, will be effective. NYC is looking scary.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Forget about ventilators - we're running out of masks. My hospital downgraded from N95 to surgical masks first, now they're telling us to reuse single-use masks. My friend in CO says his hospital is out of all PPE. Meanwhile, the CDC is saying you can use a bandana in a pinch.
We're very close to healthcare providers caring for patients dressed like bank robbers. When they get sick, there won't be enough people to operate the ventilators.
Thank you, hoarders.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Roughly 20% get hospitalized. Thats 4-5x times the flu rate (yes, I know it will go down a bit). And people stay in the hospital a long time. It's not difficult to understand the bed crunch,, even without exact numbers.
How often does flu inundate hospitals to the point they're rationing ventilators?
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Bloomberg vanished from the mic. While some are donating to help like some NBA players, he's mia in a state he was proud to help for 9/11. 
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In The Zone
Footballguy
Found out last night that a coworker of mine is showing symptoms and was tested. I definitely have had contact with this individual earlier in the week. No handshaking or anything but we have handled the same tools. Multiple people have. I'm on vacation, which is canceled, so I'm just chilling at the house and feel fine for the most part. #@$& is getting real.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I ordered carryout yesterday. I wanted Chinese and my little podunk town has two options. The one I've ordered from before is already closed, so I called the other. Went to pick it up and asked the guy (turns out he's either the owner or manager) what he thought going forward. He said yesterday was his last day open. He couldn't get any more deliveries. That made me think twice about my order, but I took it anyway. I asked him what he'd do in the meantime. Dude had tears in his eyes and said "I don't know". I started to reach out to shake his hand and wish him luck. He looked down at my hand, then at me, and we both laughed. I was crying, too.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
For a lot of Americans ... it progressed from “China’s problem” to “Italy’s problem” to “Seattle’s problem” on through the first week of March.
gianmarco
Footballguy
@Joe Bryant
Hate to even waste your time, but the laughing emoji by bucksoh to multiple posts that are serious or intense like this one I quoted is disturbing.
He's been doing it throughout this thread and it's been noted and mentioned a few times already as he's the only one doing it. As we all get more and more affected by this, this "trolling" is getting offensive. Not what this thread or place needs.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
There still is, had an owner of an essential services store tell me yesterday well there's been relatively few deaths.
Otis
Footballguy
I've been saying this for 2 weeks. The current numbers are nothing--the tip of an enormous iceberg. It's NYC. Those sick people were on packed subway cars 10 days ago. Millions of people literally ride the MTA subway and buses every day. And if you've ever done that during rush hour, you know how packed those trains get. Those people were spreading this like wildfire. And about 1.5 million commuters come through Penn Station and Grand Central Station every day--similarly packed trains, before and after they were on the NYC subway. They were picking it up and bringing it out to Westchester, Long Island, and northern New Jersey. It's everywhere.
It's not just going to be like this in NY, but it's going to be the worst in NY. Most of the rest of you get in a car and drive to work every day by yourself. We don't do that.
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matttyl
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't imagine anything is re-opening in a normal fashion until there's rampant testing.
But it's seems there's a lot of hope once that happens. Testing is why HIV didn't kill the porn industry. If the porn industry to get through a deadly STD with no cure or vaccine, we can get back to business.
Of course, the "when" part is what we're all wondering.
Otis
Footballguy
Is anyone here in the "lockdown" area in California? Can you tell us what is open/what is not, and what is permitted? Basically the NY "pause" starts tomorrow night, and I'm just trying to figure out what we'll be able to easily get after that. I imagine everyone is going to be thinking the same and there's going to be a huge run on stores today.
I'm asking my parents and some of our elderly neighbors for shopping lists today and will basically just spend the day making store runs for everyone. Those people should not be out at this point. It's getting too serious.
I'm asking my parents and some of our elderly neighbors for shopping lists today and will basically just spend the day making store runs for everyone. Those people should not be out at this point. It's getting too serious.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Man, I just got back from the Food Lion here. I'm usually the only one there this time on Saturday. Not today - it was #######' nuts. Probably 40 people shopping in that small store. No bread, no TP, no potatoes, a few gallons of 2% milk, no hot dogs, no cheese, etc.....
You guys stay safe over there, too.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
And it's not just about being on the subway with an infected person at the same time as them. It's also about being on the subway that an infected person was on earlier. The virus lives on the surfaces of the train interiors.
The rate of spread of the virus in New York City is far greater than the rate of spread of the virus in Iowa farmland. Infected people in New York (as well as other densely populated areas) were infecting others at a rate of 10+ people. I posted that last week and was BARRAGED with people telling me to stop spreading misinformation because the R0 is only between 2.2 and 3.0. But you can't produce the numbers New York is producing if people in New York City are only infecting 2.2 to 3.0 other people. You have to multiply the R0 to account for the population density of an area. Rate of spread of the virus in Iowa farmlands is going to be significantly lower than the R0 as well.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The initial list was very detailed and comprehensive but it has been adjusted now and a lot of waivers applied for. But a lot was shut down.Cowboysfan8 said:
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't know if you guys watch the "ReacThing" YouTube channel out of South Korea. She does a lot of stuff, but her best videos are with her 80 year old grandmother (Grandma OK) trying different things (like "Korean in her 80's tries American Snacks). Delightful videos and Grandma OK is the most awesome person on the internet. Highly recommend. I've been worried about her through this. With each posted video, I'm a relieved to see her doing well.
Anyway, here's Grandma OK in Korea watching videos of toilet paper fights around the world
Obviously, their mood about every things seems a bit different.
Anyway, here's Grandma OK in Korea watching videos of toilet paper fights around the world
Obviously, their mood about every things seems a bit different.
Gawain
Footballguy
In NY, the three tier liquor system is considered an essential business. I tell my guys there are three reasons for that:
1) State needs revenue. Liquor stores are a big, easy money maker for the state through excise taxes. State's already going to take a hit on funding.
2) People are going to want to drink, regardless of shelter in place. To prevent speakeasies, bootlegging and home distilling, it's safer and better to keep stores open.
3) We need to keep hospitals clear of non Covid-19 cases. There's a non-miniscule percentage of the population (1%) that would end up in a hospital detoxxing if the supply of booze was just cut off.
I'm thinking that there's a fourth reason as well.
4) I have 50 guys that are trained in warehousing and 50 that are trained in distribution. If this gets real rough, we don't have to store and ship liquor and wine. We can easily transition to move product for the government. I hope that's not needed.
Work is tough. I think I have a mini-panic attack everyday coming home where I convince myself I'll have a 101 temp when I check after sanitizing when walking through the door. It's real tough on the drivers, even though driving is a very safe job. They can control their customer interaction. I can't control where a guy coughed in the warehouse. We currently have 5 folks that are home due to direct contact with a presumed positive or through significant other quarantine.
And with all that, my youngest brother was supposed to get married May 23 and we were supposed to go to Vegas the week before. He's just accepting these won't happen. He is an RN and was supposed to transfer to a dialysis ward. He just got the notice that all transfers are cancelled and that because of his ICU experience, he's going to be part of the COVID-19 triage room. I bought 20 N-95 masks about a month ago when the thread was starting to ramp up. I've used two. Going to give him a call to take the other 18, because it sounds real rough out there.
1) State needs revenue. Liquor stores are a big, easy money maker for the state through excise taxes. State's already going to take a hit on funding.
2) People are going to want to drink, regardless of shelter in place. To prevent speakeasies, bootlegging and home distilling, it's safer and better to keep stores open.
3) We need to keep hospitals clear of non Covid-19 cases. There's a non-miniscule percentage of the population (1%) that would end up in a hospital detoxxing if the supply of booze was just cut off.
I'm thinking that there's a fourth reason as well.
4) I have 50 guys that are trained in warehousing and 50 that are trained in distribution. If this gets real rough, we don't have to store and ship liquor and wine. We can easily transition to move product for the government. I hope that's not needed.
Work is tough. I think I have a mini-panic attack everyday coming home where I convince myself I'll have a 101 temp when I check after sanitizing when walking through the door. It's real tough on the drivers, even though driving is a very safe job. They can control their customer interaction. I can't control where a guy coughed in the warehouse. We currently have 5 folks that are home due to direct contact with a presumed positive or through significant other quarantine.
And with all that, my youngest brother was supposed to get married May 23 and we were supposed to go to Vegas the week before. He's just accepting these won't happen. He is an RN and was supposed to transfer to a dialysis ward. He just got the notice that all transfers are cancelled and that because of his ICU experience, he's going to be part of the COVID-19 triage room. I bought 20 N-95 masks about a month ago when the thread was starting to ramp up. I've used two. Going to give him a call to take the other 18, because it sounds real rough out there.
I found out that there's apparently a limit on how much bread you can buy at Publix, or at least the one I was at yesterday. Guy in front of me was buying bread for him and his daughter, she just ran out, he had I think 4 total, the cashier explained to him that bread was being "rationed(her word)." I think he had to give up 2 of them. Thank God I was just buying deodorant, that better never be rationed. I don't want to be around stinky people.
Otis
Footballguy
There were signs all over the store in my town that said limit 2 per customer of any item.
My hope is that the hoarders now have way more bread, milk, and TP than the ever could use in a lifetime, and will stay home for a while.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Can’t you just ignore it instead of tagging Joe? I’m sure he has bigger things to worry about than people being offended by an emoji
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
That would be for the best. Honestly, I don't eat much bread, I drink almond milk(which keeps longer), and I have a good diet that helps me use less TP, but flushable wipes are also useful. Another way I save my TP is to go at work. Use their TP.
DaVinci
FairTaxguy
Grocery stores should be rationing pretty much everything now from milk to meat to TP. Limits on everything.
That one guy
Footballguy
There’s a lot of quantity 2 limit signs on various items at our Publix here in Orlando area. Most of the items I was okay with limits on, until I got to bacon and got panic sweats over such suppression
Yeah, getting upset over an emoji tag to a post is a bit much. Try to ignore it. Bigger issues to worry about.
tamales
Footballguy
Makes sense.
Side note, I'm super happy my grandpa decided to buy and butcher a cow, and then share the meat with me, my parents, and sister's families. Lots of lean beef and a chest freezer to put it in. This was back in December/January, too.
That one guy
Footballguy
Also, was there a dedicated thread to covid-19 medical news/updates? Coulda swore I saw one but now not finding anything. It might be best to separate that stuff to it’s own area as most the info in the immediate is about potential rather than actual usage due to clinical trials necessities and such. But it’d be good to be able to look at the worldwide effort as it’s both promising and amazing to watch in real time such an effort
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Jobber
Footballguy
Yeah, it’s a hoax. Unfortunately, someone out there will likely get all worked up and shoot some poor delivery person or meter reader walking through their yard.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Is it?
Robbery scam prompts Daytona police alert
DAYTONA BEACH — The Daytona Beach Police Department is alerting residents to a home robbery scam targeting people concerned about the coronavirus outbreak.
In some parts of the country, people dressed in white lab coats and masks are pretending to be from the Centers for Disease Control, according to social media posts from the police department.
The scammers are knocking on doors to talk to people about COVID-19, and sometimes even offer to test people for the virus, police said. Police warn that these scammers are taking advantage of fears surrounding the coronavirus in an attempt to rob homes.
Jobber
Footballguy
Yes, it is. Show me a police report or arrest where someone actually did this. I saw a pic of four black guys in white MOPP style gear over a week ago floating around with this saying to watch out. It was a fake.
msommer
Footballguy
It's possible. How's the parking lot at you local Walmart, CVS or Wahlgreen's looking?
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Boca Raton
This guy in Boca says:
They were knocking on doors and they were asking people if they wanted coronavirus tests for $300!” Umanksy told Contact 5 investigator Merris Badcock “They weren’t getting three cents out of me. I was ready to call the police immediately.”
He said the scammers were dressed in Florida business casual attire and were carrying plastic bags and Q-tips, but no gloves, masks or credentials.
“I said, 'I'm going to call my doctor to make sure it is OK.' By the time I got back to the door, they were gone.”
Umansky called 911 and sent texts and emails to his friends about the potential scammers.
I don't know if it's a hoax or not, but not ready to dismiss it so quickly.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
tamales
Footballguy
That one guy
Footballguy
I’ve lived in FL my whole life and I’m uncertain as to what “Florida business casual attire” is? Tommy Bahamas and khakis? Sport coat and flip-flops?
jplvr
Footballguy
In days where everyone has a cell phone camera, and lots of people have door cams, I'd say an article without video proof can be questioned on a story like that.
My sister knows an exec at Alabama Power though, and she heard they were going to shut down everything in the next 48 hours. You know, like everyone else who has a friend in the Pentagon, State Department, etc. these days.
I do believe there's a possibility someone perpetrated this scam, but it's fine to question a wild story like that too.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Normally I’m 100% in your camp and I liberally use the ignore function and skip posts but we are in a life and death situation and this guy is making fun of serious posts about the situation - it’s completely vile and he should be banned.
