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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (7 Viewers)

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Why is it safe to get takeout, but we all need to wear masks to leave the house?  Those two statements seem....oddly conflicting.
 By me the the restaurants do a great job.  Place order and pay over the phone.  Show up and pop your truck and text you are there.  They put it in and close the trunk.  That’s it.  
 

Everything is in foil pan so when i get home i put it straight into the oven just in case to kill the virus.  That’s it.  

 
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 By me the the restaurants do a great job.  Place order and pay over the phone.  Show up and pop your truck and text you are there.  They put it in and close the trunk.  That’s it.  
Same here. Picked up pizza from our local regional chain here yesterday. Paid online. Went and picked it up, as it's literally less than a mile from my home. There was nobody there other than the employees when I went in. I touched the door handle, with only my left hand pinkie (decent band name there), and scrubbed when I got home (not a euphemism :unsure:  ). Got home and my kids and I absolutely destroyed a pizza and order of breadsticks. Zero leftovers. :lol:  

 
Again, eating the virus, will not infect you; unless someone has seen evidence to the contrary. I have not seen any. So as long as you aren't in close proximity to that suspected infectee, you're good. 
True, there is no evidence that eating the virus will infect you.  That doesn’t make it true - it just means there is no evidence.  Just because I’ve never seen a black swan doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

I get your point - just personally not very confident in the research.

 
The hardest thing is telling my severely depressed 15 year old daughter, who has been cooped up in this house since she was released from her treatment facility in early March, no to every little thing. We took so much for granted. All she wants is a Dairy Queen blizzard,  but it just isn't worth the risk.

The few times we have left this house, I have literally gone through how the process is going to go in my mind before I leave. Glove on one hand that opens doors and whatever I am picking up--other hand doesn't have glove so it can handle credit card/key fob/phone. Think about path I am taking into the pharmacy or where I need to go.  Back at the car--item goes in trunk. Glove comes off into a plastic trash bag. Both hands sanitized and then washed thoroughly when I get home and mask sanitized. If It is a longer exposure like the pharmacy I, or my wife if she goes, shower and change clothes the minute we get home. Maybe overkill? But I want to survive this. 

I have run through the DQ scenario in my head--the person is going to take my cc and run it through the machine. The person will touch the cup, the lid and the spoon which they stick in the blizzard (who knows who touched the top of the spoon?) The person will also be talking to me out the window. Too many points of contact and interaction for my taste for something not necessary.  

Still hurts as a parent to not be able to do such a simple thing for your kid. 
That's incredibly tough.  Have you considered trying to make your own at home?  You could make it a fun task.  Maybe even make homemade ice cream.  I know that she likely wants the minor "escape" as much as anything, but that could give her a small escape from the same mundane every day life right now.   Anyways, good luck man.  My sister struggled with depression when I was in high school and I feel for you.  It's a horrible feeling seeing someone you care about suffering like that and not knowing how to help.  I hope you can help her find a happy place.

 
Ecuador went from 515 new cases yesterday to 2100+ today 😟
Yeah, I saw that.  That's a 40% jump for them.  South America in general is showing about a 10% increase in new cases, per covid worldometers.  Not good to see that growth in SA.  Worldwide, just a pretty bad day - new cases approaching 95,000 (we've only had a couple of days reporting 80K or more), and closing on another 7,000 deaths. Russia still seeing high numbers; India another 10% growth in new cases.  

The U.S. seems to be getting antsy to reopen (with optimism by the administration for May 1st).  But like the soldiers in The Last Samurai, (we)'re not ready.  

 
NotSmart said:
A few weeks ago we signed up with a local farm for veggie/milk/egg delivery direct to our door once a week.

It is a premium cost, but 100% worth it right now to keep me from having to go into a grocery store.

I strongly suspect we'll end up keeping it even after the new normal starts settling in.
this is a great idea. I've known about the meal delivery services, but didn't think about having fresh produce, dairy and eggs delivered. what service are you using?
For those unfamiliar, search for local'ish CSA's (Community Supported Agriculture). We have done one most years. It's like 800 bucks for fruits and veggies delivered once a week from early June until October or something. It's a really neat concept and helps out small family farms. You pay up front, so you are sharing the risk of a drought, or bad season, but they also give you extra should they have a great season.

Generally you can go visit the farm and talk to them. Some have dairy and meat or seafood shares you can buy too.

It's good stuff

 
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Yeah, I saw that.  That's a 40% jump for them.  South America in general is showing about a 10% increase in new cases, per covid worldometers.  Not good to see that growth in SA.  Worldwide, just a pretty bad day - new cases approaching 95,000 (we've only had a couple of days reporting 80K or more), and closing on another 7,000 deaths. Russia still seeing high numbers; India another 10% growth in new cases.  

The U.S. seems to be getting antsy to reopen (with optimism by the administration for May 1st).  But like the soldiers in The Last Samurai, (we)'re not ready.  
As a country, the US is just nowhere near it.  It's another danger of being told that we are "over the peak".  No, we aren't.  Until the active cases in a country start going down considerably, you're not over a peak.  As long as active cases continue to go up, you're not over the peak.  It's when they start going down that you can safely assume the (first) peak is in the past.

Things we know social distancing can do:

1. Halt exponential growth in cases, ICU, deaths

2. Halt net daily growth numbers for hospitalizations and ICU.  This is net only and having lower numbers of people in the ICU is good in a sense and bad in another.  It's great for the staff in terms of what they can handle, but one of the ways they are freeing up space is that a lot of people are dying. 

Things we don't know if social distancing can achieve with THIS virus:

1. Reverse active cases and drive the number down to zero.  We've basically seen this happen in China with a unbelievably strict quarantine.  We saw it happen in South Korea with contact tracing, rapid testing AND the fact that they only had 10k cases. 

 
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The hospitals in the Miami area are likely to avoid an overflow crisis situation like in NY, and the emergency hospital built at the Miami Beach Convention Center will hopefully not be needed. Several hospitals have relocated non-CV patients to clear entire floors for potential future CV patients - hospital census is way down, which makes the segregation easier. Per my contacts and the article below. 

Lee County, the Ft. Myers area, could have a capacity problem, due to the large elderly population which keeps the hospital filled with NON-COVID patients.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1248702453249454086

 
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Again, eating the virus, will not infect you; unless someone has seen evidence to the contrary. I have not seen any. So as long as you aren't in close proximity to that suspected infectee, you're good. 
In order to eat the virus you would first touch it to your mouth though. Or get it on your hand and then touch yourself. Ever coughed because you inhaled powdered sugar?

I think the fact that the food is cooked/hot has more to do with it. 

 
Courtjester has mentioned before that he's immunocompromised, and that he's extremely worried (rationally so) about contracting covid-19.  The DQ thing may sound like an over-reaction, but all of us are in different places right now.  My high school daughter is still having a single friend over more or less daily, and we're fine with that as a way of mitigating the kind of stuff that he's talking about.  Everybody has to assess their own risk levels based on their household situation.

 
The hardest thing is telling my severely depressed 15 year old daughter, who has been cooped up in this house since she was released from her treatment facility in early March, no to every little thing. We took so much for granted. All she wants is a Dairy Queen blizzard,  but it just isn't worth the risk.

The few times we have left this house, I have literally gone through how the process is going to go in my mind before I leave. Glove on one hand that opens doors and whatever I am picking up--other hand doesn't have glove so it can handle credit card/key fob/phone. Think about path I am taking into the pharmacy or where I need to go.  Back at the car--item goes in trunk. Glove comes off into a plastic trash bag. Both hands sanitized and then washed thoroughly when I get home and mask sanitized. If It is a longer exposure like the pharmacy I, or my wife if she goes, shower and change clothes the minute we get home. Maybe overkill? But I want to survive this. 

I have run through the DQ scenario in my head--the person is going to take my cc and run it through the machine. The person will touch the cup, the lid and the spoon which they stick in the blizzard (who knows who touched the top of the spoon?) The person will also be talking to me out the window. Too many points of contact and interaction for my taste for something not necessary.  

Still hurts as a parent to not be able to do such a simple thing for your kid. 
Not sure where you are at I guess or your lifestyle but I don’t have the thoughts you do. If I go anywhere I just hand sanitizer in the truck and do it again when I get back in or after I touch something that creeps me out.  And don’t touch my face in the meantime. Sorry bro, I grabbed my 14yo a blizzard today a didnt think twice about it honestly.   

 
Florida new cases and deaths by day

4/3 - 1260 , 26

4/4 - 1277,  25

4/5-  805,  26

4/6 - 1279, 33

4/7 - 1118, 42

4/8 - 951,  27

4/9 - 1128, 48

4/10 - 1142, 48

Just a lull or is this a plateau?

 
The hardest thing is telling my severely depressed 15 year old daughter, who has been cooped up in this house since she was released from her treatment facility in early March, no to every little thing. We took so much for granted. All she wants is a Dairy Queen blizzard,  but it just isn't worth the risk.

The few times we have left this house, I have literally gone through how the process is going to go in my mind before I leave. Glove on one hand that opens doors and whatever I am picking up--other hand doesn't have glove so it can handle credit card/key fob/phone. Think about path I am taking into the pharmacy or where I need to go.  Back at the car--item goes in trunk. Glove comes off into a plastic trash bag. Both hands sanitized and then washed thoroughly when I get home and mask sanitized. If It is a longer exposure like the pharmacy I, or my wife if she goes, shower and change clothes the minute we get home. Maybe overkill? But I want to survive this. 

I have run through the DQ scenario in my head--the person is going to take my cc and run it through the machine. The person will touch the cup, the lid and the spoon which they stick in the blizzard (who knows who touched the top of the spoon?) The person will also be talking to me out the window. Too many points of contact and interaction for my taste for something not necessary.  

Still hurts as a parent to not be able to do such a simple thing for your kid. 
I got blizzards at DQ with my 15 year old daughter (residential treatment for anorexia last year).   Drive through.  They're wearing gloves.  They take your credit card, they hand it back.   They give you the blizzards by putting them in one of those cardboard cup holder things and you take them out.   Very little contact.  I assume you're wearing gloves.   If you're that worried, go home, put the blizzard in a separate container and throw out their cup.   

You have little more risk than any other transaction, and probably less.   Seriously, if you're damaging the mental health of a depressed teen who's been in treatment, you have way bigger risks to worry about.    

 
Cleveland Area guy here.  I'm not surprised by this.  There is still a very LOUD social media circle of folks out there who think this is BS and DeWine is an idiot.  That being said, most people here are happy with the course Ohio has taken.  Even my wife's parents who were screaming how big of an idiot DeWine was until things started getting real and in your face.  Now they have backed off the "it's just a flu" and are taking it very seriously.  Don't hear them complain anymore.  

The majority of folks here support him, but the ones who dissent usually are the loudest. 
Dewine is an idiot, first he closed down all bars and restaurants but left open all business like Kohl's, the malls etc.  Then he finally closed  them a week later.  But leaves open Menards and Lowe's, etc it is like black Friday in Lima, Ohio old people just have been congregating to the next place.  Then he started taking patients from hospitals with positive covid and placing them in nursing homes.  

 
The hardest thing is telling my severely depressed 15 year old daughter, who has been cooped up in this house since she was released from her treatment facility in early March, no to every little thing. We took so much for granted. All she wants is a Dairy Queen blizzard,  but it just isn't worth the risk.

The few times we have left this house, I have literally gone through how the process is going to go in my mind before I leave. Glove on one hand that opens doors and whatever I am picking up--other hand doesn't have glove so it can handle credit card/key fob/phone. Think about path I am taking into the pharmacy or where I need to go.  Back at the car--item goes in trunk. Glove comes off into a plastic trash bag. Both hands sanitized and then washed thoroughly when I get home and mask sanitized. If It is a longer exposure like the pharmacy I, or my wife if she goes, shower and change clothes the minute we get home. Maybe overkill? But I want to survive this. 

I have run through the DQ scenario in my head--the person is going to take my cc and run it through the machine. The person will touch the cup, the lid and the spoon which they stick in the blizzard (who knows who touched the top of the spoon?) The person will also be talking to me out the window. Too many points of contact and interaction for my taste for something not necessary.  

Still hurts as a parent to not be able to do such a simple thing for your kid. 
Pay cash, tell them keep the change. Transfer Blizzard into a cup at home. All has to be done by you so you know what touched what. 

Still a risk as they have to make the blizzard but you could minimize it. 

Still may not be worth the risk but you know your daughter best and maybe it is worth the risk?

* Edit to say everyone beat me to the answer. 

 
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I think this is gonna be a tough nut to crack. Most sensible folks understand the need but the vocal fringe will scream from the mountaintops about rights & freedoms.
All the monitoring is already in place if you have a cell phone.  Give me a number and I can tell you within a mile where you've gone the last 10-12 years depending on the carrier.

ETA:  The much easier and least "cloak and dagger" approach though would be to tell people to download this app to see where the virus is.  Then ask them "profile" questions to get a good idea of them being exposed, currently sick, or already had it.  It would not be difficult at all to do this from an "app" approach.  People sign their lives away for Candy Crush.  They aren't going to think twice about doing the same with a virus app.

 
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We dont even tell coworkers who it was when somebody in their building gets it.

Pretty sure cell phone tracking is DOA. 

Voluntary sure, some people will do it. But tons wont. 

 
We dont even tell coworkers who it was when somebody in their building gets it.

Pretty sure cell phone tracking is DOA. 

Voluntary sure, some people will do it. But tons wont. 
Same as my work.  I feel like telling my employer I plan on visiting all my coworkers, just to see if they tell me avoid person X

 
Non-China Reported Cases

2/7 - 277 reported cases

2/12 - 490 reported cases

2/17 - 893 reported cases -  5 dead 

2/22 - 1,834 reported cases - 19 dead

2/26 - 3,650 reported cases - 57 dead

2/29 - 7,155 reported cases - 109 dead - USA 68 cases - 1 dead

3/5 - 17,353 reported cases - 344 dead - USA 210 cases - 12 dead

3/9 - 33,303 reported cases - 881 dead - USA 628 cases - 26 dead

3/13 - 64,567 reported cases - 2,239 dead - USA 2,269 cases - 48 dead

3/18 - 138,059 reported cases - 5,715 dead - USA 9,301 cases - 152 dead

3/22 - 255,584 reported cases - 11,350 dead - USA 33,346 cases - 414 dead

3/27 - 514,956 reported cases - 24,048 dead - USA 104,126 cases - 1,695 dead

4/2 - 932,707 reported cases - 49,664 dead - USA  244,320 cases - 5,897 dead 

4/6 - 1,264,826 reported cases - 71,366 dead - USA 367,004 cases - 10,871 dead

4/7 - 1,349,179 reported cases - 78,703 dead - USA 400,335 cases - 12,841 dead

4/8 - 1,435,929 reported cases - 85,121 dead - USA 434,698 cases - 14,787 dead

4/9 - 1,521,741 reported cases - 92,380 dead - USA 468,566 cases - 16,691 dead - Active USA cases 425,947

4/10 - 1,615,613 reported cases - 99,349 dead - USA 502,036 cases - 18,717 dead - Active USA cases 456,080

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-J_vry7rclLIGooJ-Cu7OFH8rRRjB51lz1iGkwcTETc/edit#gid=0

 
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You've shown me nothing to support your opinion, so forgive me if I trust data which suggests otherwise.
 

Bacteria in your upper aerodigestive track are far more likely to cause pneumonia than those in the CPAP, though a dirty machine compounds the risk. 
 
Your bringing the bacteria into the cpap which was sterile.  Your more than likely to develop the pneumonia any way.  The studies basically concluded that there should be more testing.  If you read the studies you would know that.  You have basically been making fun of R.T. and Nurses in this thread,. You are adept at Google so  I would have guessed you could be a Dr. But your unable to comprehend a lot of what you write.  So Dr. Is out   you might be in lab.  So what exactly is your occupation?  Any time I laughed at postings is because it is fear mongoring or false information.  Which you have brought a lot into this thread alone.

 
Courtjester has mentioned before that he's immunocompromised, and that he's extremely worried (rationally so) about contracting covid-19.  The DQ thing may sound like an over-reaction, but all of us are in different places right now.  My high school daughter is still having a single friend over more or less daily, and we're fine with that as a way of mitigating the kind of stuff that he's talking about.  Everybody has to assess their own risk levels based on their household situation.
Ah, missed that.  Take back my suggestion then.

 
For all you that responded, thank you so much. Yeah, my hypersensative reaction is because of my condition, but tonight was saved. Mom stepped in and made chocolate chip pancakes (my daughter's favorite) and when we looked through the Easter stuff, we found an egg dye kit from last year. She is really happy with these newest developments--so crisis addressed.

Be safe all!! 

 
For all you that responded, thank you so much. Yeah, my hypersensative reaction is because of my condition, but tonight was saved. Mom stepped in and made chocolate chip pancakes (my daughter's favorite) and when we looked through the Easter stuff, we found an egg dye kit from last year. She is really happy with these newest developments--so crisis addressed.

Be safe all!! 
Glad to hear this.  I know this situation is extremely hard for some households, and I wish you guys the best.

 
I am curious from you and others who are in the field - 1 week later is this still your general feeling?

Seems like even people who are working in the hospitals and in various health fields aren't in consensus on this.  
Yes, still feel this way, had our first patient die of covid.  My hospital took away all of my vacation even though they have repeatedly said we are not in a crisis.  The hospitals wouldn't be over run if it wasn't for the media telling everyone this is a pandemic.  The media is doing more harm than good.  Around where I'm from people have been treating this as almost as business as normal,. Bcat can confirm this since he is from Lima.

 
For all you that responded, thank you so much. Yeah, my hypersensative reaction is because of my condition, but tonight was saved. Mom stepped in and made chocolate chip pancakes (my daughter's favorite) and when we looked through the Easter stuff, we found an egg dye kit from last year. She is really happy with these newest developments--so crisis addressed.

Be safe all!! 
You too iFriend. Man, got a tad dusty in here. Have an awesome night!

 
Yes, still feel this way, had our first patient die of covid.  My hospital took away all of my vacation even though they have repeatedly said we are not in a crisis.  The hospitals wouldn't be over run if it wasn't for the media telling everyone this is a pandemic.  The media is doing more harm than good.  Around where I'm from people have been treating this as almost as business as normal,. Bcat can confirm this since he is from Lima.
Is Kewpee doing carryout?

 
@bucksoh posted a "Laughing" like to your post ... and I don't know if he's laughing at your "yikes" comment or laughing at the prospect of hooking up multiple patients to one ventilator.
First off there is plenty of ventilators, just not enough R.T. to run them,. That is why I have been laughing at these ridiculous posts. I got suspended because I called out two fear mongers in this thread, even though there are others in here calling people fxxxxxxxx morons, fxxxxxx idiots and they continue to post.  Crazy times.

 
The hardest thing is telling my severely depressed 15 year old daughter, who has been cooped up in this house since she was released from her treatment facility in early March, no to every little thing. We took so much for granted. All she wants is a Dairy Queen blizzard,  but it just isn't worth the risk.

The few times we have left this house, I have literally gone through how the process is going to go in my mind before I leave. Glove on one hand that opens doors and whatever I am picking up--other hand doesn't have glove so it can handle credit card/key fob/phone. Think about path I am taking into the pharmacy or where I need to go.  Back at the car--item goes in trunk. Glove comes off into a plastic trash bag. Both hands sanitized and then washed thoroughly when I get home and mask sanitized. If It is a longer exposure like the pharmacy I, or my wife if she goes, shower and change clothes the minute we get home. Maybe overkill? But I want to survive this. 

I have run through the DQ scenario in my head--the person is going to take my cc and run it through the machine. The person will touch the cup, the lid and the spoon which they stick in the blizzard (who knows who touched the top of the spoon?) The person will also be talking to me out the window. Too many points of contact and interaction for my taste for something not necessary.  

Still hurts as a parent to not be able to do such a simple thing for your kid. 
I understand your fear but blizzards are worth the risk😅

 
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For all you that responded, thank you so much. Yeah, my hypersensative reaction is because of my condition, but tonight was saved. Mom stepped in and made chocolate chip pancakes (my daughter's favorite) and when we looked through the Easter stuff, we found an egg dye kit from last year. She is really happy with these newest developments--so crisis addressed.

Be safe all!! 
I am happy to hear your wife stepped up. I take back my suggestion after hearing about your condition.

 
I bought a car from a private party, and the Department of Motor Vehicles closed their doors the day before I could register it.  I called and they said it's not something I can do online.  I would have to mail in the title, bill of sale, proof of insurance, and a few other documents.  I asked if I could mail in xerox copies and they said no.  No way am I gonna mail originals and have them get lost.  I am driving on the previous owners plates, but I am sure he went online and canceled them within a day of the sale.  I did insure the car in my name, but if my wife gets pulled over, I hope the officer understands.

 
Yes, still feel this way, had our first patient die of covid.  My hospital took away all of my vacation even though they have repeatedly said we are not in a crisis.  The hospitals wouldn't be over run if it wasn't for the media telling everyone this is a pandemic.  The media is doing more harm than good.  Around where I'm from people have been treating this as almost as business as normal,. Bcat can confirm this since he is from Lima.
Not from Lima, but close.  This area is pretty much business as usual.  About 30% of people are wearing masks.  The good thing is everyone is supporting the local restaurants.

 
Yes, still feel this way, had our first patient die of covid.  My hospital took away all of my vacation even though they have repeatedly said we are not in a crisis.  The hospitals wouldn't be over run if it wasn't for the media telling everyone this is a pandemic.  The media is doing more harm than good.  Around where I'm from people have been treating this as almost as business as normal,. Bcat can confirm this since he is from Lima.
This thing is definitely regional in nature. Different areas will have different experiences and should rightfully have different approaches. I would postulate that your reaction might be different in you were in Queens NY. Which I realize you aren’t, but think of it from the perspective of a state where 800 people have died in the last 24 hours. That’s 33 people dying each hour, or one person every 2 minutes. It’s not just a media thing. Just depends on where one is that dictates their reality.

 
For those unfamiliar, search for local'ish CSA's (Community Supported Agriculture). We have done one most years. It's like 800 bucks for fruits and veggies delivered once a week from early June until October or something. It's a really neat concept and helps out small family farms. You pay up front, so you are sharing the risk of a drought, or bad season, but they also give you extra should they have a great season.

Generally you can go visit the farm and talk to them. Some have dairy and meat or seafood shares you can buy too.

It's good stuff
We live our local farmer. Been going with them for like 7 years. 

 
This thing is definitely regional in nature. Different areas will have different experiences and should rightfully have different approaches. I would postulate that your reaction might be different in you were in Queens NY. Which I realize you aren’t, but think of it from the perspective of a state where 800 people have died in the last 24 hours. That’s 33 people dying each hour, or one person every 2 minutes. It’s not just a media thing. Just depends on where one is that dictates their reality.
Actually it is a media thing imo, if it wasn't for them, the hospitals In NYC would be business as usual.  But because of testing from this the overdoses and suicides have been flooding their hospitals because of all the fear mongering.  Heck our hospital alone has been hit by 3x-5x as many suicides and overdoses everyday that are taking up beds.  If the fear mongoring wasn't going on this wouldn't be happening.

 
Unfortunately this has hit our home as I took my wife to the hospital yesterday and she was diagnosed with COVID-19. She has been bed ridden for a week prior to yesterday with a max temp of 101 with no other sure signs of corona but had a horrible day yesterday and our doctor made plans to allow her to be admitted for evaluation. The good news, she has not had shortness of breath and they did not admit her and I brought her home last night.   

I'm 58 and have a pre-existing condition as I had a heart attack last year but consider myself in good health otherwise. My wife has a low immunity system so we have been concerned for both of us with our conditions. I have not felt right for a while but have not had a fever or shortness of breath so I have continued along as business as usual. My personal opinion is with us both being in close quarters we both have had the same virus and now I think we both have had some form of coronavirus.

I guess what my rambling is meant to point out is that this pandemic is extremely unpredictable. Younger people in great shape have died from this and other people like my wife have been able to fight this off and move forward. 
First off I want to say I really appreciate all the best wishes, not usually my style to post something personal like this but I thought it would provide some insight from our prospective. Great news so far, it looks like the hospital stating she was at the apex of this on Tuesday night when I took her in is accurate as she seems to be getting better gradually. Still not sure if I actually had a mild case of this or some other kind of bug as I have not been 100% for a while but no real serious symptoms and I'm starting to feeling closer to normal (for me).

Bottom line I was more concerned with our situation both being older (tough pill to swallow in itself) and each having some type of pre-existing condition but as of now things are pointing in the right direction.

Stay Safe everybody and keep fighting this together!!

 
Actually it is a media thing imo, if it wasn't for them, the hospitals In NYC would be business as usual.  But because of testing from this the overdoses and suicides have been flooding their hospitals because of all the fear mongering.  Heck our hospital alone has been hit by 3x-5x as many suicides and overdoses everyday that are taking up beds.  If the fear mongoring wasn't going on this wouldn't be happening.
I’m not calling BS, but can you post any specific data regarding those increased suicide rates?  I’ve heard people speaking out of fear that suicides would increase, but I have seen zero data on it. Thank you 

 
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