Could be. I think the main reason Cuomo shot DeBlasio down is that if the curve is indeed flattening, it may be possible to slowly start opening things back up before the end of the school year. That means parents going back to work while the kids are out of school. Not feasible obviously.One answer I’ve heard to the question surrounding schools and why they haven’t made the decision to close for the year already is, they’re afraid kids will just give up on their online learning once school is cancelled. It’s kind of like how the government is stringing us along. Instead of saying, we’re closing everything for 2 months, they do it in increments. We’re closed for 15 days. The 15 days runs out, take 15 more. I think most districts understand they’re not going back this year, I’d imagine they’re trying not to let the cat out of the bag early April.
CBD is anti-inflammatory. A very handy tool when battling COVID. I would use it myself, if I got the Wuhan. I wouldn't use it via vape, however.i realize how stupid this sounds, but i take 10/10 thc/cbd oil daily, as well as vaporize (not smoke, also not the "vape" you think of) cannabis every night per my prescription.
and i have asked myself on many occassions... "i wonder if this could help/cure this disease"
i realize the answer is VERY likely a no... but in times like this id hope EVERYTHING is being looked at.
no, the oil gets dropped under the tongue... I vaporize the flower at night.CBD is anti-inflammatory. A very handy tool when battling COVID. I would use it myself, if I got the Wuhan. I wouldn't use it via vape, however.
they have been feuding for years ... the decision to originally shut the schools was also contentious (Cuomo said yes, Billy balked)Now Gov. Cuomo says that no decision has been made on NYC schools. Said the closing is the mayor’s opinion. Not sure what the deal is.
What evidence have you found so far that the virus has been in the US since December? I’m truly interested in learning more. It doesn’t sound like a crazy theory to me, but I also haven’t read a single fact so far that has been compelling. Interested in what you have found.They weren't ventilators for one. And second, the hospital thought it was the flu. It's not unheard of for hospitals to be overrun in waves during particularly bad flu seasons. And that's what the nurse told my clients they thought this was. Thus no news story.
If coronavirus has been scattered about the US since at least December, and we sit here in April, then the numbers aren't so world ending are they? When a bad flu season takes out 40,000 and a really bad one takes out 60,000 but it's spread over 5-6 months, then hospitals have busy nights and weeks but manage to keep up for the most part.
All forgiven. I can wait. In 2 or 3 weeks we'll all laugh that we were talking about stay-at-home into July.Fair enough. Please forgive me for not trusting internet rando's native wit. Ill be happy to reconsider if the evidence supports it.
Got it. My wife uses it, so I'm aware there are a variety of ways to use. I just wouldn't want to vape (or smoke) if I was fighting COVID. Pill, gummy, oil, all fine.no, the oil gets dropped under the tongue... I vaporize the flower at night.
ah, gotcha. ya id probably drop the vaporizing as well, as i usually do when i have a cough/old.Got it. My wife uses it, so I'm aware there are a variety of ways to use. I just wouldn't want to vape (or smoke) if I was fighting COVID. Pill, gummy, oil, all fine.
Oh I know that. If DeBlasio had just tweeted about the schools or something it would be one thing. He had a two hour press conference about it.they have been feuding for years ... the decision to originally shut the schools was also contentious (Cuomo said yes, Billy balked)
You're adding plenty. Don't be shouted down. Every day there's more evidence that the current measures are too destructive and disproportionate to the problem at hand. Yes, we have to be careful to manage the worst spots and flare ups because this has been and always will be about surges and hospital capacity to handle them and not about how deadly the actual virus is. But shutting down the entire country and destroying people's way of life, and breaking them financially is not the answer. This nonsense about not lifting lockdowns for many more months or even years, is simply not accounting for what shell of a society we'd re-enter when the lockdowns would end. We simply must start allowing for a return to daily life. Businesses have to re-open and people have to go back to work. Surges must be met with local response and the truly vulnerable are the ones who have to be taking the most far reaching precautions.No evidence whatsoever. Native wit.
I suspect that a shutdown, at current intensity, from March into July puts 25% of the population into unemployment. Real unemployment, where those jobs are plain gone. Economy and money so locked up a restart is impossible. Now you have liquidity, credit and solvency problems throughout the global economic system. Great depression time - years to recover.
This has been debated to death and I'm adding nothing original, so I'll shut my pie hole. Everyone is going to have to compromise, obviously.
I’ve thought about this. I just don’t think 2 or 3 weeks is worth it. We’ve been out since around middle of March. We’re scheduled to go back mid-August. That’s a 5 month span of being closed you risk for 2-3 weeks. I just don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze. I’m a teacher and the thought of not seeing some of my 8th graders again is awful. Hopefully they can figure something out for the kids graduating and moving on.Could be. I think the main reason Cuomo shot DeBlasio down is that if the curve is indeed flattening, it may be possible to slowly start opening things back up before the end of the school year. That means parents going back to work while the kids are out of school. Not feasible obviously.
There is of course very little evidence. The official first case flew into the USA January 15th. I suppose it’s possible that the USA, the CDC, and the WHO are all lying.What evidence have you found so far that the virus has been in the US since December? I’m truly interested in learning more. It doesn’t sound like a crazy theory to me, but I also haven’t read a single fact so far that has been compelling. Interested in what you have found.
He asked me, not you. And since it's the Stanford study that alluded to what he's asking for, I'm looking right now for a link that isn't behind a paywall.There is of course very little evidence. The official first case flew into the USA January 15th. I suppose it’s possible that the USA, the CDC, and the WHO are all lying.
But at this point we won’t get anywhere arguing about it. One day soon antibody tests will confirm the truth and we can move on.
Based on how crowded the parks are where I am and how people are still running errands like going to the grocery store ordering take out I think there are plenty of people that will be doing all these things you mentioned.What I have't heard explained is how the economy comes back by opening things up. Will people suddenly start goong to bars? Baseball games? Disney? No effin way I'm doing any of that, not as someone with underlying health conditions. And, I'm not unique...I'd bet most of us have something going on...blood pressure, heart disease, asthma, compromised immune system, diabetes, etc.
So if opening things up with this virus still lurking won't save the economy anyways, is the risk of a second wave worth it?
That is quite the rangeBased on this data, Ioannidis estimated that in a country like the United States, the fatality rate from COVID-19 would more likely be between 0.05 to one percent of those infected.
Our stay at home order goes to the 30th. My wife is a special ed coach (she coordinates/oversees the special ed teachers) and she calculated if the kids were allowed to go back to school, it would be for a grand total of 14 days. Bottom line-that isn't worth it. Further the whole argument this will allow the parents to get back to work if the schools reopen (at least here in Colorado), holds zero water considering that number.I’ve thought about this. I just don’t think 2 or 3 weeks is worth it. We’ve been out since around middle of March. We’re scheduled to go back mid-August. That’s a 5 month span of being closed you risk for 2-3 weeks. I just don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze. I’m a teacher and the thought of not seeing some of my 8th graders again is awful. Hopefully they can figure something out for the kids graduating and moving on.
Had my first order delivered with Shipt yesterday. Found my shopper to be woefully inept. I gave her full authority to swap out for any similar items if what I wanted was out of stock. She decided to just not get anything that wasn't exactly what I put in my order. So we got no yogurt, milk, tomatoes, apples, etc. WawaMy wife delivers for Shipt.
There cases were likely massively underreported for weeks. Would think they are still trending down.Italy +4,694 cases. Today is 5 weeks that they’ve been on lockdown.
What jobs are just going to disappear? I get the fears we all have about massive unemployment, but eventually, this country will be back to normal and I find it unlikely that all the jobs will just be goneReal unemployment, where those jobs are plain gone.
I hate to say it, but that’s where a negative rating and honest feedback comes in handy. They take ratings seriously.Had my first order delivered with Shipt yesterday. Found my shopper to be woefully inept. I gave her full authority to swap out for any similar items if what I wanted was out of stock. She decided to just not get anything that wasn't exactly what I put in my order. So we got no yogurt, milk, tomatoes, apples, etc. Wawa
The more I think about this and the "solution" to it, it's almost like there needs to be some sort of sliding scale on firmness/looseness of restrictions based on available healthcare resources in a particular area. I don't know how exactly that would get implemented, but it would be a good start, IMO....this has been and always will be about surges and hospital capacity to handle them and not about how deadly the actual virus is. ...
They have more tests per 1m/population than Germany. But I’m sure at the beginning they did miss a lot because their death rate is coming out at 12-13% and that is probably way too high.There cases were likely massively underreported for weeks. Would think they are still trending down.
Found this one that is not behind a paywall regarding the Stanford study, its findings, and even an estimate from the study that coronavirus may have reached California as early as November 17th...What evidence have you found so far that the virus has been in the US since December? I’m truly interested in learning more. It doesn’t sound like a crazy theory to me, but I also haven’t read a single fact so far that has been compelling. Interested in what you have found.
I think I mentioned in the thread somewhere that during all this we moved to a new house. One day this week our trash men picked up our neighbors trash and some toy they had put in exploded and got these jelly balls all over the place - must have been a couple hundred of these things spread over the road, the gutters and sidewalk -I didn’t see it happen but the wife at the house who put it out did - poor lady is trying to clean this mess up when I walk outside. So, being a nice guy, new neighbor and bored out of my mind I grab a broom and clean up one side of the street. Started playing street hockey with these things and just having fun. Anyway, 30 minutes later we get it all cleaned up and go about our day.
I’m laying in bed last night and our ring goes off - check the camera and it’s the lady and her daughter leaving something on the front porch. Just went out and got it and it was a 12-pack of TP with a handwritten note welcoming us to the neighborhood and a thank you for helping clean up the mess.Greatest housewarming gift ever!!!!
That's too bad. We've had a great experience with Shipt (SW suburbs of twin cities). We always do the 'contact me with substitutions' option and they text with options to sub in if needed.Had my first order delivered with Shipt yesterday. Found my shopper to be woefully inept. I gave her full authority to swap out for any similar items if what I wanted was out of stock. She decided to just not get anything that wasn't exactly what I put in my order. So we got no yogurt, milk, tomatoes, apples, etc. Wawa
I was on a call with both commercial and residential real estate folks in Austin a couple days ago and that’s consistent with what they were reporting in both sectors.That's freakin' awesome. I've been wondering what this distancing stuff has done to the real estate market. Quick question to a couple guys I know here is it's down about 35-40% which is HUGE in Florida. I'm not sure I'd want a bunch of people walking around in my house if I were trying to sell or if I'd want to be walking around in other peoples' house trying to buy for that matter.
Yup, but during peak of crisis they weren’t testing everyone. This is what they are doing in NYC. They just tell you to stay at home if you have symptons and don’t test you.They have more tests per 1m/population than Germany. But I’m sure at the beginning they did miss a lot because their death rate is coming out at 12-13% and that is probably way too high.
Yes, we are on the same page. They can’t test everyone, it’s always been a major problem.Yup, but during peak of crisis they weren’t testing everyone. This is what they are doing in NYC. They just tell you to stay at home if you have symptons and don’t test you.
They could have had the asymptomatic version of this from Jan on?Plus side... we'll get definitive proof of whether it was really here in November/December very quickly.
The possibility of that is akin to getting struck by lightning, unless we’ve been given false infoThey could have had the asymptomatic version of this from Jan on?
Very soon you should be able to know for sureI know how this post will be taken but it really is just anecdotal along with the other "wonder if I had this in February" posts....
My kids' school takes a 7th/8th grade Washington dc trip every other year in late january. My daughter is in 7th this year so she got to go. Late january just as news was breaking.
I also coach the JV and Varsity boys soccer teams at the high school and the JV team is loaded with 7th graders. I dealt with maybe 60% attendance through the end of february with kids missing practice with flu-like symptoms but all tested negative for the flu. "Just a virus" they were told. A few high schoolers missed but nothing like the middle schoolers.
Oddly enough, we have temp custody of 3 year old twins. One had some kind of illness he couldnt kick - 2 emergency room visits with 104+ temp, breathing issues, etc. Negative for flu. We did find out later though after contacting their GP that the ER doc had noted pneumonia in the file and never told us. They did give a scrip for Tamiflu but it never really seemed to kick it. Lots of rest, fluids and a constant humidifier helped. Of course, a 3 year old cant tell you if it's a dry cough but there wasnt anything coming up.
So, soccer season started march 6. My son (16) starts complaining at the opening tournament that he cant breathe well. Hes a sprinter, never been an endurance type anyway so I chalk it up to laziness. He developed a "hack" a week or so later - kept saying it felt like a tickle with nothing there. It lasted up until the last week of practice when they shut down school. Never felt bad, no fever, just couldnt breathe right or kick the cough.
Late february/early march I had something similar. Felt like a chest cold with no congestion or productive coughs. But I would cough so bad at night I couldnt catch my breath. No fever, no aches, just a cough I couldnt kick. I chalked it up to allergies but it didnt feel like allergies. The bad cough lasted about a week with a persistent cough lasting another 2 or 3. Finally went to the doc in a box and they found nothing...no pneumonia, no bronchitis, no flu. Nothing. Just "probably a virus that has to run its course".
I'm not claiming I, or we, had this but man it's so coincidental that about 10 kids at the school, plus 3 in my house all had something that every doc said "I dont know, it's just a virus" meaning they tested for what they know and found nothing. I need to add too that the 3 year old above had flu A and flu B prior and the other twin had flu A. My son also had Flu b. Those were way different than whatever they had later.
People are great at donating other people's money.Our's has mask nazis on it. There are a couple girls advertising to make custom face coverings for people and they are charging a reasonable price (like 7-8 bucks). People are destroying them for not giving the masks away. I mean if these people are out of work and are trying to earn a little extra coin, what is the harm? Plus I think the idea of having a Denver Bronco face covering or a Frozen one for a little girl is kind of a cool idea.
That's my hope. Not holding my breath but very interested for sure.Very soon you should be able to know for sure
I remember reading some stories from italian press that had italian doctors talking about all of these super stubborn cases of pneumonia they started seeing in November.I will post this again since no one responded to my "probably" too long of a post to read 2 pages ago and is the medical community believing their may be previous cases.
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/seattle-flu-study-allegedly-tested-samples-for-covid-19-against-federal-state-guidelines
Early in this thread, the CDC told a lab to stop testing for COVID in Seattle area (I believe it was the first week of the nursing home outbreak). They closed a school immediately prior to the official shut down because a 17 year old tested positive with a non CDC approved test - (remember the CDC tests did not work at this time). This needs to be investigated thoroughly because it sounds to me like some one at the CDC was covering their butt from the testing screw up.
Do you have a link for this? First time I've heard that.Then he started taking patients from hospitals with positive covid and placing them in nursing homes.