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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (12 Viewers)

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Then you aren’t agreeing with the other posters that many people in here have problems with.  They want to isolate the vulnerable because they don’t recognize the collective danger presented by asymptomatic carriers.  As long as they perceive themselves as young and healthy, they shouldn’t be limited in their activities, because it’s other peoples’ problems.  This is an ignorant and selfish way to think and act.
I quoted and agreed with Mac 32 and he’s been promoting masks and social distancing this entire thread.  I don’t understand where this hostility for suggesting people take some personal responsibility to eat healthier as part of a plan to combat COVID, is coming from.  It’s just part of a much larger plan imo.

 
If you'd really like to know how to eat healthy on a budget I will take the time to provide a cohesive answer (not tonight), but I'm not going to do it if I am wasting my time. We were quite poor for a period many years ago and figuring this out was one thing I did to try to weather the storm. A lot of the habits we developed during that time stuck, including running. 
I am sure it can be done.   Sure I am curious about what you guys ended up doing, but my stance will apply - not everyone will be able to do what you did.  

Questions I would have for your diet on a budget would be:  does it require frequent trips to a store?  extra storage space like a bigger freezer?  were you working one job?  how poor are we talking?  how much time does it take to prepare? etc..  

 
Family history is the primary factor in hypertension, which is one of the leading comorbidities for COVID.  Guess because my great grandfather didn’t eat enough bananas I should stay in my house.

 
I am finding this a bit tiring too, but again - different world views.    Throwing out "personal responsibility" as a blanket statement fails to take into consideration people's myriad of lives and situations.  

I am all for talking about that more if we are talking 2 people in the exact same neighborhood, same income, same family dynamic, same mental health, etc..     IMO that doesn't apply quite so well if we are talking about my situation vs. somebody in poverty in an unsafe neighborhood.   
I don’t doubt that in parts of the country where this is the case and I empathize I really do.  I just know in my town of 25,000 it’s middle to upper middle class with a bunch of people who would be considered obese and wouldn’t you know I see these people eating butter burgers at Culvers and bellied up to the bar, back when I was going to them.  I just don’t see anything wrong with promoting individual’s health as part of the message to combat Covid.

 
Family history is the primary factor in hypertension, which is one of the leading comorbidities for COVID.  Guess because my great grandfather didn’t eat enough bananas I should stay in my house.
Who is saying that? 

Hypertension runs in my family and people need to social distance. That is completely different than the fact that americans do not exercise enough and do not eat healthy.

 
I eat my bananas raw. Have I been doing it wrong. 
Are you claiming that people could get all their calories and be healthy by eating bananas? 

Yeah, bananas and carrots are pretty cheap.   I guess maybe I am doing it wrong, but every time we have made a conscious effort to eat healthier as a family, our food bill has gone up.  Decent meat, bread, whatever as a whole it costs more, takes time and effort to make, and goes bad quicker.   Plus it requires me to have transporation and access to a decent store.   
We should all go full spud.

 
I quoted and agreed with Mac 32 and he’s been promoting masks and social distancing this entire thread.  I don’t understand where this hostility for suggesting people take some personal responsibility to eat healthier as part of a plan to combat COVID, is coming from.  It’s just part of a much larger plan imo.
I can help with where the hostility is coming from.  he sounds like his chief goal is to sound morally superior.  i agree with the message, but want nothing to do with the messenger.

 
Congrats on 1000 pages guys.

Good to see the disgusting level of self-righteousness from some has not left this thread.  See you at 2000.
It goes both ways man. There are people on this thread that have had the same dismissiveness since there were hardly any covid deaths too.   Over a quarter million dead just in this country--I understand that maybe some of us come across as being too extreme on the self righteous side--but I'd far rather be on that side than on the side that insults and dismisses the deaths of what will probably end up being 300-500 thousand Americans..  There are lots of people in this forum that know people that have died from covid--and in this very thread--there are stories of members who have had really tough battles against it.   For people to come in here and treat it like it's an "over-hyped nothing burger" is frankly insulting.  

 
I don’t doubt that in parts of the country where this is the case and I empathize I really do.  I just know in my town of 25,000 it’s middle to upper middle class with a bunch of people who would be considered obese and wouldn’t you know I see these people eating butter burgers at Culvers and bellied up to the bar, back when I was going to them.  I just don’t see anything wrong with promoting individual’s health as part of the message to combat Covid.
I understand that and appreciate the bolded.   

It's just one of those things that grinds my gears when people say "everyone can do X".   That is my push back, as well as the posts that come off as "f those people".     I see this in here, or in other threads discussing why people can't get out of poverty and other things.  I just don't understand the myopic thinking there. 

 
Who is saying that? 

Hypertension runs in my family and people need to social distance. That is completely different than the fact that americans do not exercise enough and do not eat healthy.
There is at least one poster in the last 3 pages that believes because he is young and healthy he should not have to take appropriate measures to protect people that are vulnerable. 
 

Thats what triggered this nutrition discussion.

 
I am sure it can be done.   Sure I am curious about what you guys ended up doing, but my stance will apply - not everyone will be able to do what you did.  

Questions I would have for your diet on a budget would be:  does it require frequent trips to a store?  extra storage space like a bigger freezer?  were you working one job?  how poor are we talking?  how much time does it take to prepare? etc..  
You're correct. Good health is not a one size fits all. But whatever method best fits your own unique situation requires one very important element most are not willing to commit- effort.

2 grocery trips/week were ideal, but some weeks only 1. At that time we had 1 fridge and I had 3 jobs. Sunday was food prep day. I want to say our family income during that period was around $mid20some-k/yr, but it was a while ago so specifics escape me. It was above the poverty line, but not by much. 

 
I quoted and agreed with Mac 32 and he’s been promoting masks and social distancing this entire thread.  I don’t understand where this hostility for suggesting people take some personal responsibility to eat healthier as part of a plan to combat COVID, is coming from.  It’s just part of a much larger plan imo.
Not just eat healthier, but exercise too. I have an article bookmarked on my work computer that I posted in here months ago that (paraphrasing) proved consistent exercise habits are an effective means to beating this virus. That we are having this exact same debate in this exact same thread months later is poetic - we apply more effort in making excuses for the lazy than we do our own health then don't retain any of the information because it doesn't align with what we want to believe. 

 
Then you aren’t agreeing with the other posters that many people in here have problems with.  They want to isolate the vulnerable because they don’t recognize the collective danger presented by asymptomatic carriers.  As long as they perceive themselves as young and healthy, they shouldn’t be limited in their activities, because it’s other peoples’ problems.  This is an ignorant and selfish way to think and act.
I'm on a self imposed quarantine, but don't let facts stop you from rambling about hypertension and turkey cancer because I hurt your feelings. 

 
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You guys really do suck. "WELL YOU MADE YOURSELF FAT! MAYBE YOU SHOULD EAT  BANANA!" 

Yeah because everyone who is overweight can just eat a couple bananas and lost 50 lbs in a week. It will take most American's longer to get into shape than to get through this pandemic.

"NO ONE TOLD YOU TO SMOKE/VAPE/DRINK"

Well, no one told the people who are depressed from being locked down to jump off a bridge or shoot up some heroin. But we are supposed to have empathy for that? What kind of logic is that? "IT'S YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU ARE FAT. HEY! WHAT ABOUT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING IN THESE OTHER WAYS??? THE CURE CAN'T BE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE!!"

Take your "I'm healthy and don't have anything to worry about, it sucks for you who aren't" and go pound salt somewhere. It isn't really helping and is only putting your character into a bad light.

I'm trying hard to not take the bait on this stuff. I really am. I deal with people like this on a daily basis. But it is in my home right now. And I've lost friends to this and have friends fighting for their lives right now. I can't just turn off my compassion and love for these people because they may not go running on a daily basis or made poor decisions. I've made plenty of my own bad decisions. 

I think I'm going to have to walk away from this thread for awhile. I try not to get caught up in these type of things but due to my personal situation I'm having a hard time. 

 
It goes both ways man. There are people on this thread that have had the same dismissiveness since there were hardly any covid deaths too.   Over a quarter million dead just in this country--I understand that maybe some of us come across as being too extreme on the self righteous side--but I'd far rather be on that side than on the side that insults and dismisses the deaths of what will probably end up being 300-500 thousand Americans..  There are lots of people in this forum that know people that have died from covid--and in this very thread--there are stories of members who have had really tough battles against it.   For people to come in here and treat it like it's an "over-hyped nothing burger" is frankly insulting.  
It does.  It always does.  I have a relative in icu and a friend who was in icu for weeks and is only now recovering at home.  Neither was severely overweight, but if one was, they'd deserve what they get according to some in here.  Not really excellent, imo.

 
You guys really do suck. "WELL YOU MADE YOURSELF FAT! MAYBE YOU SHOULD EAT  BANANA!" 

Yeah because everyone who is overweight can just eat a couple bananas and lost 50 lbs in a week. It will take most American's longer to get into shape than to get through this pandemic.

"NO ONE TOLD YOU TO SMOKE/VAPE/DRINK"

Well, no one told the people who are depressed from being locked down to jump off a bridge or shoot up some heroin. But we are supposed to have empathy for that? What kind of logic is that? "IT'S YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU ARE FAT. HEY! WHAT ABOUT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING IN THESE OTHER WAYS??? THE CURE CAN'T BE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE!!"

Take your "I'm healthy and don't have anything to worry about, it sucks for you who aren't" and go pound salt somewhere. It isn't really helping and is only putting your character into a bad light.

I'm trying hard to not take the bait on this stuff. I really am. I deal with people like this on a daily basis. But it is in my home right now. And I've lost friends to this and have friends fighting for their lives right now. I can't just turn off my compassion and love for these people because they may not go running on a daily basis or made poor decisions. I've made plenty of my own bad decisions. 

I think I'm going to have to walk away from this thread for awhile. I try not to get caught up in these type of things but due to my personal situation I'm having a hard time. 
You have a lot of #### going on in your world right now. If this is bothering you then you should prioritize your health and take a break. You also should not fit shame (is that a thing) me just like I should not social distance shame you.

I don't know why you're physically at work around other people. I assume you don't have a choice, or at least I hope that is the reason. Regardless of the answer it isn't my business - make the best decisions you think you can based on the information available that is applicable to your situation.

We aren't. When i say we im not talking about top dog, rover, karma, pipes, etc. I'm speaking in generalities - and y'all taking this personally. We, Americans, are not taking this seriously nor are we healthy. Wrt the latter some beyond their own control - and that ain't who I'm talking about. I don't understand why any rational person would think that commentary is in reference to (i.e.) a poor person with 2 jobs, type 1 diabetes, living in an impoverished high crime neighborhood unless that human is just looking for an argument. 

We have opportunities to improve our own unique probabilities of both not getting this - and beating it if we aren't so lucky. Stay away from others, mask up, eat well, and move dammit. 

 
It does.  It always does.  I have a relative in icu and a friend who was in icu for weeks and is only now recovering at home.  Neither was severely overweight, but if one was, they'd deserve what they get according to some in here.  Not really excellent, imo.
Who said that?  Are people really arguing that someone deserves this because they are out of shape?  Multiple people have referenced this but I don’t recall seeing that posted.  If it was and I missed it I appologize.  That’s certainly not my message.

 
I quoted and agreed with Mac 32 and he’s been promoting masks and social distancing this entire thread.  I don’t understand where this hostility for suggesting people take some personal responsibility to eat healthier as part of a plan to combat COVID, is coming from.  It’s just part of a much larger plan imo.
Maybe we’re not talking about the same posters

 
Who said that?  Are people really arguing that someone deserves this because they are out of shape?  Multiple people have referenced this but I don’t recall seeing that posted.  If it was and I missed it I appologize.  That’s certainly not my message.
Yes, some people are.   You seem to have missed it.

 
By the way, I’ve had friends die.  They were healthy.  To any of you that believe you’re untouchable or your friends and family are, I hope you don’t have to bury them.  Or that they have to bury you.  But your hot takes are ignorant and disgusting. If you really can’t resist trolling, please go back to the PSF.  For the most part, this has been a meaningful thread driven by facts.  I’ve said it before.  You’re not funny, and it isn’t welcome.  Good luck and I hope nobody “young and healthy” you care about dies.

good chance I’ll get banned for this, but I don’t want to be a part of a board that allows this anyway.

 
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Who said that?  Are people really arguing that someone deserves this because they are out of shape?  Multiple people have referenced this but I don’t recall seeing that posted.  If it was and I missed it I appologize.  That’s certainly not my message.
Hmmm..someone said something about “you made your bed...” about vulnerable portions of the population.   Maybe I misunderstood.  What do you think that means?

 
Also, this is America.   A message of "eat healthy and exercise" goes over about as well as "wear a mask when entering this building".   We just don't like being told what to do.  


Correct, which is why it'd be irrational for my decision making to be influenced by any of them. They made their bed. They can sleep in it. 
Our problem centers around accountability. Decisions have consequences. That's the message. 

Anyone who thinks that dialogue is me saying the fat and lazy deserve to get infected is part of this country's problem. If you spend your life looking for the negative then you will always find it.

 
By the way, I’ve had friends die.  They were healthy.  To any of you that believe you’re untouchable or your friends and family are, I hope you don’t have to bury them.  Or that they have to bury you.  But your hot takes are ignorant and disgusting. If you really can’t resist trolling, please go back to the PSF.  For the most part, this has been a meaningful thread driven by facts.  I’ve said it before.  You’re not funny, and it isn’t welcome.  Good luck and I hope nobody “young and healthy” you care about dies.

good chance I’ll get banned for this, but I don’t want to be a part of a board that allows this anyway.
I say probabilities. You read untouchable. 

A healthy lifestyle improves your chances of defeating this virus. That's a fact. It just isn't a fact you want to consider.

Those are you problems. 

 
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If we magically could make America average on the healthy country scale do we know how much that would help our current situation?  How many of the current 250k deaths would we think would not have happened?  I really have no clue but this side discussion made me curious.

 
If we magically could make America average on the healthy country scale do we know how much that would help our current situation?  How many of the current 250k deaths would we think would not have happened?  I really have no clue but this side discussion made me curious.
I would start with the per capita death rate of the core EU nations. 

 
If we magically could make America average on the healthy country scale do we know how much that would help our current situation?  How many of the current 250k deaths would we think would not have happened?  I really have no clue but this side discussion made me curious.
As somebody posted, I think the start of the discussion is to look at other countries that would be more in line with what we would consider healthy and compare those death rates.  

 
You have a lot of #### going on in your world right now. If this is bothering you then you should prioritize your health and take a break. You also should not fit shame (is that a thing) me just like I should not social distance shame you.

I don't know why you're physically at work around other people. I assume you don't have a choice, or at least I hope that is the reason. Regardless of the answer it isn't my business - make the best decisions you think you can based on the information available that is applicable to your situation.

We aren't. When i say we im not talking about top dog, rover, karma, pipes, etc. I'm speaking in generalities - and y'all taking this personally. We, Americans, are not taking this seriously nor are we healthy. Wrt the latter some beyond their own control - and that ain't who I'm talking about. I don't understand why any rational person would think that commentary is in reference to (i.e.) a poor person with 2 jobs, type 1 diabetes, living in an impoverished high crime neighborhood unless that human is just looking for an argument. 

We have opportunities to improve our own unique probabilities of both not getting this - and beating it if we aren't so lucky. Stay away from others, mask up, eat well, and move dammit. 
I agree the need for Americans to be healthier is an epidemic in itself. My problem is that the message being pushed by many people is that it only affects unhealthy people and all we need to do is protect the unhealthy and old. The young and/or healthy folks have nothing to worry about. That is a dangerous message. BECAUSE AS AMERICANS WE ARE NOT HEALTHY AND YOUNG. When we push the agenda that it only affects the old and weak, many younger people and others feel like "It is not going to kill me. I'm young/healthy/in shape". While this is true for 99.9% of those healthy or young folks, it may not true for their family members who are not. 

Although you said it was none of of your business, I was at work because our company top brass don't believe in this virus. "Just wash your hands" is a phrase I heard a lot. We had the ability to work from home for a good portion of our company. But because everyone could not work from home, they didn't want anyone working from home. That caused a couple of outbreaks and people getting sick that may have been able to be prevented. My son has no choice but to work in person where he works.

I have never been a proponent of shutting everything down. I understand the financial hardships that result from that. My daughter was out of work April - June. It took time for her job to come back as it was not considered essential. Luckily for her, we were still working and in a financial place to help. I've pushed for mask usage, social distancing and vigilance from early on in this whole thing. I am only mentioning this because I don't want you or anyone else to think that I am out of touch with what people are going through and am one of the "shut it all down" folks. I'm not. 

My problem with a lot of the posts recently is the lack of empathy for fellow humans. When someone's message comes across as brash or attacking, it usually gets lost. Just because the content of what someone is saying is correct, doesn't mean the sender shouldn't take the messenger into consideration. The whole "**** your feelings" mantra that has happened in recent years (I'm not saying that is YOUR stance, just using it as example of how some of the recent posts in this forum come across) doesn't really help one's message be received.

 
It is a piece of the puzzle, and I get what Mac is saying (even if I think he doesn't get how his posts are coming off).   

IMO our problem currently isn't on that end, it's on the spreading it too quickly end.    Yes, I agree that things like being healthy and taking Vitamin D might slightly increase your chances once you get it, but the trouble is that doesn't mitigate the spread - it's just helps you combat it.  Our trouble is we can't seem to mask up and stay away from each other to begin with.  

We currently have an issue at our restaurant.  We are on our 3rd positive case in the last few weeks, and these are young people - 2 are in good health.   Imagine that - 1 was from a wedding, the current one was bragging about going to 3 Thanksgivings, and one was at the bars (his entire dart team got it, and the "healthy" one in the group is currently on a ventilator).   Again, I get what people are saying in here about staying healthy, but this is why it's a hot topic for people and anger levels rise.  

 
By the way, I’ve had friends die.  They were healthy.  To any of you that believe you’re untouchable or your friends and family are, I hope you don’t have to bury them.  Or that they have to bury you.  But your hot takes are ignorant and disgusting. If you really can’t resist trolling, please go back to the PSF.  For the most part, this has been a meaningful thread driven by facts.  I’ve said it before.  You’re not funny, and it isn’t welcome.  Good luck and I hope nobody “young and healthy” you care about dies.

good chance I’ll get banned for this, but I don’t want to be a part of a board that allows this anyway.
Sorry your friends died.

Misrepresenting the position you disagree with so that you can make trolling accusations and personal attacks are what make the PSF so miserable.  For that reason the PSF is one big echo chamber where any dissenting opinion has long ago been chased way.

Facts are interpreted, and individuals will do so differently pending their own places and situations.  Does it make you feel better to rage at them?

 
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If we magically could make America average on the healthy country scale do we know how much that would help our current situation?  How many of the current 250k deaths would we think would not have happened?  I really have no clue but this side discussion made me curious.
It wouldn't change the virus, but perhaps our resilience to it.

I think it is obvious the death rate is dropping in large part to a shift in who is getting it... hospitalization ages are going down.

 
This whole thread is just an embarrassment. Nobody is allowed an opinion anymore? 

Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that each of us has been affected by this virus in one way or another? 

Some have had loved ones die. And therefore, take this virus very serious.

Some have had the virus with no issues at all. And therefore, see this virus as less threatening than depression or financial issues the lockdowns are causing.

There is no wrong way to view this.

To say people are ignorant because they want kids back in school or their businesses open is not right. You don't know what they are going through. Perhaps their children are depressed at home and need socialization. Perhaps they are on the brink of losing their home because they are not allowed to be open.

And to say this is just the flu and we should move forward as normal isn't right either. People are dying. People are getting very sick.

Going back and forth bashing each other is terrible.  

 
Close friend of the family who is mostly careful (grocery shops in mask) was taken by ambulance with covid-pneumonia yesterday.  She has had a cough and fever, tested negative initially, but now positive.  Not good considering her age group (65+).  Either got it from grandchildren who attend a private school in person or grocery store -- schools are closed to prevent spread more so than protecting the children . . . .

 
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Obesity is mostly a choice. Sure there are psychological influences, economic influences, etc. Almost nobody wants to be obese or unhealthy. But it shouldnt be controversial to say obesity is mostly a choice. 

And if we are afraid to tell people now during a pandemic that improving their overall health is better for them we are screwed even worse than covid could ever do to us. Nobody is saying "you ate a big mac, enjoy the side of covid." Nobody is saying "your 35 year old friend deserved to die." If you think they are report the post and if it that is truly what was said I cant imagine Joe not taking serious action.

The whole line of discussion of bringing up high fructose corn syrup in store bought bread causing cancer is baloney. As if fast food buns are better. 

The only surprising thing in this whole discussion is that nobody brought up metabolic disorders which is such a common go to for trying to silence discussion about obesity in this country. 

We are to a point where people that share weight loss stories online get criticism for feeding diet culture and being anti body positivity. Its dumb. 

As far as @TripItUp posts are concerned i agree that such discussion should go to the psf. 

Back to covid...

Researchers found coronavirus antibodies in 39 samples from California, Oregon, and Washington as early as Dec. 13 to Dec. 16.

 
This whole thread is just an embarrassment. Nobody is allowed an opinion anymore? 

Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that each of us has been affected by this virus in one way or another? 

Some have had loved ones die. And therefore, take this virus very serious.

Some have had the virus with no issues at all. And therefore, see this virus as less threatening than depression or financial issues the lockdowns are causing.

There is no wrong way to view this.

To say people are ignorant because they want kids back in school or their businesses open is not right. You don't know what they are going through. Perhaps their children are depressed at home and need socialization. Perhaps they are on the brink of losing their home because they are not allowed to be open.

And to say this is just the flu and we should move forward as normal isn't right either. People are dying. People are getting very sick.

Going back and forth bashing each other is terrible.  
THIS 100%.

I've tried hard to listen to all sides of this. I've experienced all sides of this. Friends and family sick. Friends and family struggling to make ends meet. If there was an easy answer here, it would have already been done.

I try hard to not be attacking in my posts. I've debated with some of the posters on here that have rubbed others the wrong way and had some meaningful discussion that has helped me to understand where people who don't agree with my views are coming from.

I may have gotten caught up in the moment last night and lashed out at a few people. @MAC_32 in particular addressed my post. And for that I apologize. We need to be better to each other and listen to all sides.

 
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I also agree back to covid stuff... Question for you guys.

My son tested positive yesterday. He lives with us. My wife is being tested as I type this. Assuming she is negative and I do not develop symptoms, what is the proper protocol for quarantine length?  My wife asked the urgent care and they said if she is positive, 10 days from today. If she is negative, 10 days from yesterday because that was when my son was positive. But aren't we potentially exposed to him for the next 9 days as well? 

The part I'm stumbling on is this:  He is in day 2 of being positive. He clears symptoms in say day 5. But on day 4 I was exposed to the virus and it takes up to 10 days for me to show symptoms. Shouldn't I be quarantining for 10 days AFTER he stops showing symptoms or something? 

It is confusing.

 
So we know we aren't going to magically make the nation more fit in the next 4-5 months so what's the point of the argument? 

Seems to be a little dehumanizing to make it ok. "Well they brought it on themselves so If I want to cut corners on safety and bad things happen its not on me its on them." 

The level of rationalization this country is using to do want they want and not what they should is astounding. I'm not talking about about shutting down schools and businesses. I'm talking about doing the easy (or at least easier) stuff. And this is happening in my life, with my friends, my family, who I think should know better. Patriots. Flag wavers. Just cannot do it.  

 
I also agree back to covid stuff... Question for you guys.

My son tested positive yesterday. He lives with us. My wife is being tested as I type this. Assuming she is negative and I do not develop symptoms, what is the proper protocol for quarantine length?  My wife asked the urgent care and they said if she is positive, 10 days from today. If she is negative, 10 days from yesterday because that was when my son was positive. But aren't we potentially exposed to him for the next 9 days as well? 

The part I'm stumbling on is this:  He is in day 2 of being positive. He clears symptoms in say day 5. But on day 4 I was exposed to the virus and it takes up to 10 days for me to show symptoms. Shouldn't I be quarantining for 10 days AFTER he stops showing symptoms or something? 

It is confusing.
You guys are probably already infected. :(  
 

My buddy tested positive and isolated the first day he had symptoms. They have a huge house (+7k ft) and he was set up to fully isolate (military/prepper). 
 

Everyone in his house (toddler son, wife, and wife's mother) all tested positive about a week later. 

 
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You guys are probably already infected. :(  
 

My buddy tested positive and isolated the first day he had symptoms. They have a huge house (+7k ft) and he was set up to fully isolate (military/prepper). 
 

Everyone in his house (toddler son, wife, and wife's mother) all tested positive about a week later. 
Thanks for the positive vibes ol' buddy!  ;)

 
I quoted and agreed with Mac 32 and he’s been promoting masks and social distancing this entire thread.  I don’t understand where this hostility for suggesting people take some personal responsibility to eat healthier as part of a plan to combat COVID, is coming from.  It’s just part of a much larger plan imo.
Remember when Michelle Obama's signature issue was nutrition and more healthy school lunches and she just got dragged relentlessly for it? 

Sarah Palin with her big gulp? Ugh. 

 
You guys are probably already infected. :(  
 

My buddy tested positive and isolated the first day he had symptoms. They have a huge house (+7k ft) and he was set up to fully isolate (military/prepper). 
 

Everyone in his house (toddler son, wife, and wife's mother) all tested positive about a week later. 
This isnt true. Happens all the time where people dont spread it within the house. In fact I bet it is 50/50. 

 
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