Even in this thread there seems to be various opinions on how effective this has been and how serious this has been taken. Like I said - regardless, it's nowhere near the level of the countries you listed, and they some are just slowly starting to start up after a couple months.I think NY shutting nearly everything down in the last week will definitely flatten the curve. I know optimism is frowned upon in this thread.
And this is the best course of action. Worry/stress releases cortisol and supresses your immune system. It's the exact opposite of what you should do here. Maybe that's why people say laughter is a good form of medicine.No one account doesn't change my mind. Statistics still say 0.4% death rate for 40 year olds. I like my odds
"A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55."No one account doesn't change my mind. Statistics still say 0.4% death rate for 40 year olds. I like my odds
My local small hospital has banned all visitors except for end of life cases.At the hospital with my wife. Had to get our temperatures taken before entering. And once more before getting moved into a room. Hospitals are definitely taking this seriously.
That's about 20k new cases and 320 new deaths rate per 24 hoursNew cases in the US in the past 3 hours (Since 00:01 GMT) 2,577 and 42 deaths
Yeah but their recovery rate is dramatically better."A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55."
Yeah, people are so obsessed with the death rate around here. Sure, that's one big aspect of it, but I sure as #### wouldn't want to be in the hospital with this either, even less so as this ramps up and spreads."A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55."
We'll never hit Italy's numbers for a few reasons. Comparing them to New York for example the average Italian is almost 10 years older, they smoke at a rate about 10% higher then people in New York and I believe part of the health care structure in Italy is when you are over 65 you have less options then a typical insured 65 or older US citizen.Deaths in NY are around 0.7% compared to 8% in Italy. At this point I think it's unwise to compare anywhere to Italy.
Yeah, for L&D it’s now 1 support person and they can’t leave and return.My local small hospital has banned all visitors except for end of life cases.
If that were the case, the death rates of people under 50 would be higher in over run italy, no?Yes but there are people in that age range that would likely die that are otherwise living because they needed and received proper medical treatment. I expect that percentage to start sky rocketing the more hospitals get overwhelmed and not everyone can get proper and timely treatment.
If your state shut it down hardcore for 3-4 weeks instead of being complacent you could be South Korea instead of Italy. No shtick.
I don't really know how accurately or up to date they are tracking recovery data. there are very few recoveries counted in the US. Seems a lot ar"to be determined" still.Yeah but their recovery rate is dramatically better.
Ideally I wouldn't want to even be identified with it, because they're gonna isolate you for a long time and that would suck. Personally I felt like that may have prevented people from even going in and being identified "it'll be okay, I'll get better, and I don't wanna be locked up for 14 days".Yeah, people are so obsessed with the death rate around here. Sure, that's one big aspect of it, but I sure as #### wouldn't want to be in the hospital with this either, even less so as this ramps up and spreads.
And #1 in deaths, or did that change the past couple days.He needs to do what CA and NY have done. Surprised he hasn't since he's 1 of the big 3.
you sure you’re not a real doctor?
I think that’s why he asked.So you don't know?
Could be because they are forced to pick and choose who they can care for and are leaving older patients to die when that choice has to be made.If that were the case, the death rates of people under 50 would be higher in over run italy, no?
As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease
Well, it is WI. I assume that liquor stores and cheese shops will still be classified as essential, right??!!I agree. Now for my no shtick. We would still need to have liquor stores open as essential. Seriously. Lots of alcoholics.
My friend works for General Beverage up in the Appleton area. After the bar/restaurant shutdown, the demand for cheap liquor exploded. Festival Foods' that normally sold 20 cases of cheap Fleischmans vodka or Kesslers whiskey are up over 100 cases now. It's insane.
And death rate still 0.4%"A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55."
Well yeah... I mean just like I say the data is incomplete in all of those other areas it's totally incomplete here as well. But to my understanding the vast majority of deaths are still older people and those with previous health conditions. They're airing commercials right now in our state saying as much.I don't really know how accurately or up to date they are tracking recovery data. there are very few recoveries counted in the US. Seems a lot ar"to be determined" still.
Nice. My parents/family are from the Jefferson/Fort/Cambridge area. Be safe over there. Not sure what you coach, but my son is in 7th grade basketball, so maybe we are bumping into each other and not knowing it. (just now hopefully from 6' away.. )
As of whatever date that number was released by whoever. And what about the ones who survive but end up with permanent lung damage? Any number on those?And death rate still 0.4%
If they are using a keyboard they arent going outside.It might be time for a few in here to step away from the keyboard for a while. Let's not make a ####ty situation worse.
Well of course I don't wanna get sick and spend 3 weeks in the hospital but ultimately it comes down to the death rates. You either recover or die.Yeah, people are so obsessed with the death rate around here. Sure, that's one big aspect of it, but I sure as #### wouldn't want to be in the hospital with this either, even less so as this ramps up and spreads.
That'll take a lot longer I'm sure cuz permanent means more than a few days / weeks.As of whatever date that number was released by whoever. And what about the ones who survive but end up with permanent lung damage? Any number on those?
I type super fast on an iPhone...If they are using a keyboard they arent going outside.
Like I said as a person in my 40s my concern is 0.4%. I'm not scared as #### of dying like others seem to be.Could be because they are forced to pick and choose who they can care for and are leaving older patients to die when that choice has to be made.
Right, because pulmologists can't quickly determine what long term damage looks like.That'll take a lot longer I'm sure cuz permanent means more than a few days / weeks.
As of today in the world.As of whatever date that number was released by whoever. And what about the ones who survive but end up with permanent lung damage? Any number on those?
What about the recovery rate of the person who can't have a bed because you're in it?Yeah but their recovery rate is dramatically better.
They should keep liquor stores open in some capacity, sure. Having supplies of all kinds available is key to keeping people calm and comfortable with being shut in at home.I agree. Now for my no shtick. We would still need to have liquor stores open as essential. Seriously. Lots of alcoholics.
My friend works for General Beverage up in the Appleton area. After the bar/restaurant shutdown, the demand for cheap liquor exploded. Festival Foods' that normally sold 20 cases of cheap Fleischmans vodka or Kesslers whiskey are up over 100 cases now. It's insane.
Huh. I guess I feel the opposite. It seems like most people I know would rather us have the ability to have widespread testing and know for sure if they have it.Ideally I wouldn't want to even be identified with it, because they're gonna isolate you for a long time and that would suck. Personally I felt like that may have prevented people from even going in and being identified "it'll be okay, I'll get better, and I don't wanna be locked up for 14 days".
There are a few trolls in this thread and good posters are wasting their time replying to them.msommer said:Spit out the hook, GB
Nobody said that.JaxBill said:What about the recovery rate of the person who can't have a bed because you're in it?
Or the health care worker who has to tend to you?
Or the person you came into contact with who is older or is more susceptible because they just fought off cancer?
Sucks for them but you're okay, so whatever
Apparently, they can't....Nipsey said:Right, because pulmologists can't quickly determine what long term damage looks like.
That he recently went out for a NY bagel should be a clueCurious where you live.
Yup.tonydead said:And #1 in deaths, or did that change the past couple days.
Nobody is saying this isn't a big deal. I live in NYC. As a 42 year old im not scared #### of this because i have a 99.6% chance of surviving. That doesn't mean it isn't a big deal and doesn't mean I wantto spend 3 weeks in the hospital. This isn't that hard.Nipsey said:Curious where the people who don't see this as a huge deal live? If I lived in a suburb in a small state or the a rural area I probably wouldn't think it was a huge deal.
GA isn't doing anything it seems. Looks like normal life there.Nipsey said:Curious where the people who don't see this as a huge deal live? If I lived in a suburb in a small state or the a rural area I probably wouldn't think it was a huge deal.
Did you read that article?Apparently, they can't....
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-recovered-patients-have-partially-reduced-lung-function/a-52859671
A small study of 12 patients discharged from hospital showed that two or three had reduced lung function. However, it is too early to confirm any long-term effects.
Yea if I lived on a giant farm in Idaho or North Dakota I guess I wouldn’t be too concerned. But I pretty much live in the opposite of that.Nipsey said:Curious where the people who don't see this as a huge deal live? If I lived in a suburb in a small state or the a rural area I probably wouldn't think it was a huge deal.
Yes, that does seem to be the case.There are a few trolls in this thread and good posters are wasting their time replying to them.
Yep, I’ve got that bookmarked from when you previously posted it. It really helped me to understand what’s going on. One of the best tools posted on here.[icon] said:Here it is >
What's scary is Us deaths have gone from trailing the model by ~1 day to passing the model by about 1 day...
We're accelerating past the model.
REALLY hoping this distancing and shutdown (whatever scale we are doing) helps :(
Some of you people apparently have serious comprehension issues. Thinking this isn't as serious as they're making it out to be isn't the same as ignoring what people said to do.JaxBill said:What about the recovery rate of the person who can't have a bed because you're in it?
Or the health care worker who has to tend to you?
Or the person you came into contact with who is older or is more susceptible because they just fought off cancer?
Sucks for them but you're okay, so whatever