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I see.
I remember that earlier on, Florida was making an effort to stop vehicles from Louisiana (and other hot-spot states) from entering via I-10.
I actually have an employee who just confirmed positive with the exposure traced to a wedding. I don't know the details of the wedding though.
In daytime hours for about 6 days, maybe less. And those that came in were not tracked, or turned away. It was covid theater. It created traffic, more than anything.
I've found you through it all to be very balanced in this thread. Curious your own thoughts as to actual true case fatality rate of this disease? Considering all factors, asymptomatic, those never tested, etc, etc?
Other than probably April, I'd agree. At least in Central Florida. Closing the boat ramps was probably the most ridiculous of all decisions along the way.
Statewide, restaurants and bars were closed in June. And when they reopened they were at 50% capacity until just last week, right?
Restaurants were open here May 1, we actually went to one on that night. Bars only have primarily been closed, but most of them around here unless they were straight night club just started serving boiled peanuts and tacos to get around the bar only rules. Limited seating for sure, but not nearly a lockdown. At least in central florida. Most of the mask mandates went into effect during the early summer surge.
There have been restrictions, but with minor work arounds many places have been able to stay open.
This has pretty much been the case everywhere, no? You might have the idea that Florida has been much looser than the rest of the country, but I'm not sure that's true.
I was more just responding to the faux outrage over Florida lifting "restrictions." We've been able to go to bars and restaurants for months. But, there have been places that fully abide by the rules and it has hurt their businesses. I hope this allows them to get back on their feet.
While other systems have failed us - chiefly public health (WHO, CDC and local), private businesses, the POTUS and media, I think we need to own up to our individual role in this mess - theres's plenty of international data from which to derive reasonable policy and behavior.
In particular the CDC and the federal response to the crisis. In general, I think most local public health agencies have done OK, and the missteps have bene caused by crappy CDC leadership.
Lol. You folks are a barrel of fun. He’ll yeah there are people who enjoy weddings. I’ve been to plenty that have been blasts. Mine was a ton of fun. Even been to Vegas for one. Unless you’re a stick in the mud, it’s pretty easy to have fun unless it’s a horrible wedding.
As I've said multiple times, CFR isn't the most relevant number for Covid-19 - hospitalization rate, ICU occupancy and length of stay are. All of those are exceedingly high relative to other common, transmissible infections, including influenza. Coupled with its high infectivity/contagion and time/labor-intensive hospital care, this creates a perfect storm for rapidly overwhelming healthcare systems. And covid's long incubation period + potential for asymptomatic spread + superspreading makes it tricky to contain/predict. Plus don't forget the potential for long-term organ damage/debility among survivors, whose prevalence we still don't quite have a handle on.
tbh even the horrible ones can be fun to think about later. They all have their moments.
Meh. Has nothing to do with muddy sticks, just a difference in opinion what constitutes "fun". And I've been to several weddings in Hawaii.
This is a statement I hear from a lot of states...Georgia has had almost NO restrictions since May, and cases/hospitalizations are down the same as many places WITH restrictions. We had the summer bump like most places, and steady decline since...even with schools fully open, bars, gyms, restaurants fully open and no restrictions.
Huh? Weddings are for the bride, some kooky family members, and kids in their 20's. It's all downhill from there. A TON of time for not that much, dwindling fun. Million things I'd rather do than sit through yet another wedding.
The initial question from Leroy Jenkins was about going to what would just be the wedding/ceremony portion. He said the reception was canceled, and it would be a traditional catholic mass/wedding. Fish commented that he would find a way to skip that, and others agreed. Exactly what part of a traditional catholic medding is "tons of fun"??
The follow up posts were about weddings in general. I didn’t reply to Leroy and I wasn’t talking about CV-19 weddings which obviously aren’t the same fun. Regular weddings have been a lot of fun in my experience but I haven’t been to one in forever because I’m older and friends don’t have weddings anymore. Divorces yes, weddings no. Also, it was all said in jest to people who didn’t think weddings were fun. It’s still OK to try and have fun.
This is an excellent description. However anytime I see the .2% IFR mentioned, I feel obligated to point out that nearly .3% of NYC's population has already died from COVID.
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Dad was good yesterday with O2 Sats @ 97 (about day 10-12 from infection).... symptoms had gone down. Thought we may have been out of the woods but today he's coughing a good bit more and O2sat dropping as low as 95.
Sure. It was early in the pandemic, when we were intubating people too quickly, increasing their risk of mortality. Dexamethasone and convalescent plasma weren’t being used either - although imperfect data, both show mortality benefit in some circumstances.
Agreed that the actual wedding sucks....but it is the after party that can still be hellacious fun well into your 50's.
If he’s running as low as 93%, you should talk to his doctor. Both dexamethasone and convalescent plasma are often offered to patients at that level. If his primary doctor says it’s not needed, I’d strongly consider going to the emergency room of an academic center.Dad was good yesterday with O2 Sats @ 97 (about day 10-12 from infection).... symptoms had gone down. Thought we may have been out of the woods but today he's coughing a good bit more and O2sat dropping as low as 95.
Mom felt bad Sunday so started a Zpac. Felt better since. This morning she officially tested positive. Currently asymptomatic. She's highest risk.
Brother (41 fit) was patient 0 we think. He's been struggling the most, sleeping inclined, chest pressure, coughing. Ordered him a pulse oximeter and his O2 Sats are running 93-95. Not horrible but not good. Told hulk if they drop any lower he needs to go to the hospital :(
Thanks for asking GB
He's been prescribed a zpack and a steroid inhaler so far.
.He called a doc friend who works in same office and he immediately prescribed those two items. 
Wasn’t there a wedding in New England (Maine maybe) where a whole bunch of people got it and eventually lead to 13 deaths, most of whom didn’t even go to the wedding but got it from someone who did?
It is Maine. Yes, there are multiple, unrelated, deaths that can be linked back to this event. I recall something 200 unrelated illnesses can be traced back too. The operators claimed they were trying to obey the rules but misinterpreted the guidelines. Let me find the link....
The Z pak (azithromycin, an antibiotic) is likely unnecessary. If he has documented covid, the prevalence of secondary bacterial infection (requiring antibiotics) is low, and the anti inflammatory properties of azithromycin haven’t panned out for covid either.He's been prescribed a zpack and a steroid inhaler so far.
His PCP would only give him cough syrup.
I'll check with him on that if he still is bouncing down to 93 tomorrow. Thank you!
Out of curiosity what are the ballpark costs for those two treatments? Not sure what programs may be running.
EDIT: just pinged him about this and he sent a reading pic at 98 and a pic of an ADVAIR inhaler (asked what he was given).
Thanks for the feedback GB. I'm sharing the advice with the family. Very much appreciated as I know you've been all over this from go,
That's awesome to hear everyone seems to be hanging in there so far. It is a scary ####### disease with just so much unknowns... I've thought a lot about your folks since you said they were positive / likely positve. I don't personally know you but you have always been a good dude round here. Especially in the bourbon thead.Dad was good yesterday with O2 Sats @ 97 (about day 10-12 from infection).... symptoms had gone down. Thought we may have been out of the woods but today he's coughing a good bit more and O2sat dropping as low as 95.
Mom felt bad Sunday so started a Zpac. Felt better since. This morning she officially tested positive. Currently asymptomatic. She's highest risk.
Brother (41 fit) was patient 0 we think. He's been struggling the most, sleeping inclined, chest pressure, coughing. Ordered him a pulse oximeter and his O2 Sats are running 93-95. Not horrible but not good. Told hulk if they drop any lower he needs to go to the hospital :(
Thanks for asking GB
Sending good thoughts. So weird that your brother, who is the youngest and healthiest, is experiencing the worst symptoms. Hope everyone recovers quickly
Yes. It was unclear to me what type of wedding/ceremony it was and what other precautions were in place.
