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***OFFICIAL CYDY/Leronlimab Thread*** (5 Viewers)

People with conflicts are quoted all the time. As a journalist you’re trained to note the conflict and let the reader decide. What a hack. 

 
I think in WSJ defense Bruce Patterson is kinda like Jesus to us, to him he is one random doctor with a big conflict.  If there were other credible doctors without conflicts left out that would have been worse to me.  WSJ definitely let the story match up with what they wanted their readers to hear though (in not a good way)

 
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JerseyToughGuys said:
It certainly has increased the anxiety around here, but do we have a real benchmark?

As compared to what? 
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If we are honest, they have trouble proving anything.  They haven't even got the BLA submission for HIV right yet and everything is anecdotal.  So the more time that elapses where they haven't proven anything is a red flag.

That being said, i added shares today at a lower price to get back to previous level.  Im in it but i can see why there are doubters.

 
djmich said:
I think in WSJ defense Bruce Patterson is kinda like Jesus to us, to him he is one random doctor with a big conflict.  If there were other credible doctors without conflicts that would have been worse to me.  WSJ definitely let the story match up with what they wanted their readers to hear though (in not a good way)
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Patterson is the cornerstone for me but if that is a false premise, this is sinking like a rock.  I don't want to think about all the conflicts but they certainly are there.

Would like to see other Doctors get behind this.  Just the peer reviewed publication would be awesome!

 
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Dwayne Hoover said:
If we are honest, they have trouble proving anything.  They haven't even got the BLA submission for HIV right yet and everything is anecdotal.  So the more time that elapses where they haven't proven anything is a red flag.

That being said, i added shares today at a lower price to get back to previous level.  Im in it but i can see why there are doubters.
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What's the "normal" timeline you are comparing it to? 

 
Moonlight said:
Took this from another board. 

It is impossible for the DSMC (Data Safety Monitoring Committee) to recommend stopping CYDY's Serious/Critical COVID19 trial early for efficacy because the minimum patient count agreed to by the FDA to reach statistically relevant data is 195 patients and less than that were enrolled when the DSMC met last week. Anyone making an issue of this is lying or ignorant. The finding by the DSMC that Leronlimab has no safety concerns is huge. The fact that the DSMC did NOT REDUCE the threshold for efficacy in this instance, during this COVID19 Pandemic, is huge, because FDA is on orders from the Administration to get as many useful options approved and out there as possible and for lesser efficacious treatments the DSMCs are reducing the primary endpoints because the treatments are failing to meet them and are instead saying, to paraphrase, try to find something else that this drug is showing useful so we can approve it. Case in point in Humanagen's drug and Relief Therapeutics. Besides those, nearly all other treatments for COVID19 are failing their trials and being stopped for INEFFICACY, including two last week or so from Big Pharmas. CYDY is the only company in the lead on this. It's so obvious.
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I agree with all of this, which is why I am adding but also see why people are jumping ship. 

 
Sold off my 5.31 shares at 5.51.  Just going to keep chipping away at my cost basis and keep cash in hand to chase this falling knife.

 
⚡DEADHEAD⚡ said:
NP is exhausting. Any CYDY fatigue is 100% on him. 
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Absolutely. I know poor Whyatt feels persecuted but when I searched for that Tocilwhatever drug discussion after the post yesterday where it failed, I found his June 3rd post. He mentioned that the results would be out in early July. Well the press release was early August. Not a bash on him but I think the expectations of full efficacy results in 3 days or a couple weeks was way off. Whyatt himself said 4-6 weeks after unblinding. When did they unblind, 7/17? Well, it’ll be 3 weeks tomorrow. It’ll be a grind for a few more days. Sucks with no news but there’s nothing else to do.

 
We should create our own SPAC and take this thing public ourselves, since we're the only ones who give a #### about it. We'll have to draw straws to see who gets to fire NP, though.

 
Moonlight said:
Took this from another board. 

It is impossible for the DSMC (Data Safety Monitoring Committee) to recommend stopping CYDY's Serious/Critical COVID19 trial early for efficacy because the minimum patient count agreed to by the FDA to reach statistically relevant data is 195 patients and less than that were enrolled when the DSMC met last week. Anyone making an issue of this is lying or ignorant. The finding by the DSMC that Leronlimab has no safety concerns is huge. The fact that the DSMC did NOT REDUCE the threshold for efficacy in this instance, during this COVID19 Pandemic, is huge, because FDA is on orders from the Administration to get as many useful options approved and out there as possible and for lesser efficacious treatments the DSMCs are reducing the primary endpoints because the treatments are failing to meet them and are instead saying, to paraphrase, try to find something else that this drug is showing useful so we can approve it. Case in point in Humanagen's drug and Relief Therapeutics. Besides those, nearly all other treatments for COVID19 are failing their trials and being stopped for INEFFICACY, including two last week or so from Big Pharmas. CYDY is the only company in the lead on this. It's so obvious.
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Going back to this - is it possible they miss the primary endpoint but still get EUA since there is such a need for any kind of safe covid drug?

 
Capella said:
Going back to this - is it possible they miss the primary endpoint but still get EUA since there is such a need for any kind of safe covid drug?
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It's possible, but this would be a pathway few drugs have successfully navigated, so like all things leronlimab related, it's a longshot with big payoff.

 
adonis said:
It's possible, but this would be a pathway few drugs have successfully navigated, so like all things leronlimab related, it's a longshot with big payoff.
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Man it’s just so hard for me to reconcile how this virus is destroying the country and the fda is going to fart around with their old rules that don’t apply to the situation at hand. It’s amazing. 

 
Capella said:
Man it’s just so hard for me to reconcile how this virus is destroying the country and the fda is going to fart around with their old rules that don’t apply to the situation at hand. It’s amazing. 
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If I was the FDA I would have someone at Cytodyn or whatever the results currently are, looking over the shoulder of whoever is working on this data.

 
BassNBrew said:
If I was the FDA I would have someone at Cytodyn or whatever the results currently are, looking over the shoulder of whoever is working on this data.
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I really don’t get it. This thing is killing hundreds of thousands, taking jobs, blowing the economy...the delay is unreal. I get you need to prove it’s safe and won’t cause you to grow a third arm. After that if it has been proven to show any benefit let’s go to town. 

 
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Capella said:
I really don’t get it. This thing is killing hundreds of thousands, taking jobs, blowing the economy...the delay is unreal. I get you need to prove it’s safe and won’t cause you to grow a third arm. After that if it has been proven to show any benefit let’s go to town. 
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Do you really think these government workers are all that concerned that they are putting in extra work hours, etc.? It's sad especially since it's pretty obvious that none of the drugs so far have helped much at all, anymore than just hospitals having a clue how to treat it.

 
Capella said:
I really don’t get it. This thing is killing hundreds of thousands, taking jobs, blowing the economy...the delay is unreal. I get you need to prove it’s safe and won’t cause you to grow a third arm. After that if it has been proven to show any benefit let’s go to town. 
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How are you ever gonna tell it's working if there's no controlled studies? I'm fine with what they're doing right now. If b the m/m hits ANY of the endpoints and they don't approve for EUA, then I think that's a legit gripe.

 
Charlie Harper said:
How are you ever gonna tell it's working if there's no controlled studies? I'm fine with what they're doing right now. If b the m/m hits ANY of the endpoints and they don't approve for EUA, then I think that's a legit gripe.
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Study has been done for a couple of weeks.  Put 500 people on the data if that what it takes.  We would be speaking Japanese and looking at red colored moon if our gov't of days gone by was this bad.

 
Charlie Harper said:
How are you ever gonna tell it's working if there's no controlled studies? I'm fine with what they're doing right now. If b the m/m hits ANY of the endpoints and they don't approve for EUA, then I think that's a legit gripe.
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I believe they'll hit endpoints.  My concern is how they'll package it up and draft the report.  Hopefully the CEO calls in sick that day and is nowhere near the final efficacy report.  No way they screw that up, right?  Right!?  🙏

 
Charlie Harper said:
How are you ever gonna tell it's working if there's no controlled studies? I'm fine with what they're doing right now. If b the m/m hits ANY of the endpoints and they don't approve for EUA, then I think that's a legit gripe.
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Well that’s what I mean. After they get these results back. 

 
stbugs said:
Do you really think these government workers are all that concerned that they are putting in extra work hours, etc.? It's sad especially since it's pretty obvious that none of the drugs so far have helped much at all, anymore than just hospitals having a clue how to treat it.
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I’ve worked with a lot of government workers who have cared about things less important than corona. I would hope they’d have some empathy; not like they are immune from corona. 

 
Based on tweet and assuming that "nuts" means something good (insert punchline) if results are there we should get a shout out.

 
djmich said:
I think in WSJ defense Bruce Patterson is kinda like Jesus to us, to him he is one random doctor with a big conflict.  If there were other credible doctors without conflicts left out that would have been worse to me.  WSJ definitely let the story match up with what they wanted their readers to hear though (in not a good way)
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Thanks for the hot take, Judas

 
If it only goes down 5-10% a day it will keep everyone hopeful for a few more weeks.  No point in shorts slamming it 20-30% a day and scaring everyone off.
 

leronlimab may be panties and Not Rantes.  

 
Dwayne Hoover said:
Sara Eisen is one of the few people at CNBC who has a spine these days.  
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Which is ironic because her posture is terrible.

Honestly I think everyone on her show is pretty good.  Her, Mike Santoli, Wilfred Frost.

Also you can say a lot of things about Scott Wapner but spineless is certainly not one of them.  The dude challenges practically every argument that a guest or analyst makes.

 
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