***OFFICIAL CYDY/Leronlimab Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Chaz McNulty]

https://www.cytodyn.com/newsroom/press-releases/detail/513/cytodyn-files-new-protocol-with-u-s-fda-for-4-doses-of

this answers the four dose question

If an EUA isn't granted and we are waiting for this trial to finish, it should be out in time for the 4th wave.  Atleast a couple months or more to get the patients, 8 weeks from the end of the trial until the last patient is through, and a month to get and analyze the data. We are looking at September/October.  If the vaccines prove effective...

CytoDyn believes four weeks of leronlimab treatment to be sufficient to calm the cytokine storm and to have a positive effect on survival rate at 4 weeks and potentially 8 weeks.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

CC on Tuesday.

 

[Capella]

If an EUA isn't granted and we are waiting for this trial to finish, it should be out in time for the 4th wave.  Atleast a couple months or more to get the patients, 8 weeks from the end of the trial until the last patient is through, and a month to get and analyze the data. We are looking at September/October.  If the vaccines prove effective...

Out today. Phizer effective at least 6 months out and against the South African variant. 
 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/01/health/pfizer-covid-vaccine-efficacy-six-months-bn/index.html

 

[Capella]

CC on Tuesday.

Sigh 

 

[chet]

You don't need to read #shortmafia to interpret the data that CYDY has cherry picked to give us. Bass, DH, and others can simply look at the fact that CYDY FAILED it's primary endpoint in a 300+ person trial. 

THIS IS A FACT.

Don't need short mafia to convince us. 

I'll take the results of a randomized 300+ sample vs the results of a cherry picked data set from CYDY. 

I get it you believe in CYDY, but it is annoying that you assume everyone who disagrees with the trial data is just listening to "short mafia" and isn't smart enough to interpret the factual data on their own.

Be open minded enough to recognize we are in a pandemic with no other effective therapeutics to treat the critically ill.  Woodcock has said that the majority of COVID trials have been poorly designed and underpowered.  So when the primary endpoint was missed, concluding that the drug is a failure and there's nothing to glean from the results is extremely short-sighted.  

And pulling all of the criticals from the study is not cherry picking--it's being pragmatic.  It is very easy to distinguish severe patients from critical patients.  Showing incredible results at day-14 and then explaining the shortfall of results by day-28 is exactly what CYDY should be doing.  They asked the FDA for increased dosing and Jay Lalezari talked about this on the Oct 20 CC:

Min 11:45 @ Oct. 20th, 2020 CC.
Can be found in the IR Calendar link on the website:

" As Nader said, there was the DSMC meeting last Thursday
and during the the intro to the meeting, I had asked the members of the committee
to look @ the clinical signals, mortality signals and to specifically address weather we
needed to adjust the dosing. When we had submitted CD10 & CD12, we had proposed
2 doses for the mild to moderate patients, 4 doses for the severe & critical & the FDA
pushed back having to give 2 doses for both study populations. I've never actually been
comfortable with that, and so the question i asked the committee was, was there a signal
that might require Cytodyn to adjust the CD12 dosage. Are there patients who, particularly
critical patients, who might need a 3rd or 4th dose of Leronlimab ?

So yes, I do think ignoring this data simply because it's a subset of the entire is idiotic and it reeks of the tactics the #shortmafia would use to distract longs from what actually happened.  This drug works and needs to be administered to critical patients ASAP.  Plenty of lives have been lost already; let's do something that will actually save some lives.

 

[dkp993]

CC on Tuesday.

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[chet]

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You're telling me--I turn 50 that day.

 

[dkp993]

You're telling me--I turn 50 that day.

Lol.  Sounds like a perfect day to take that 812 and go for nice spirited drive and soak in the sounds.   

 

[Charlie Harper]

Be open minded enough to recognize we are in a pandemic with no other effective therapeutics to treat the critically ill.  Woodcock has said that the majority of COVID trials have been poorly designed and underpowered.  So when the primary endpoint was missed, concluding that the drug is a failure and there's nothing to glean from the results is extremely short-sighted.  

And pulling all of the criticals from the study is not cherry picking--it's being pragmatic.  It is very easy to distinguish severe patients from critical patients.  Showing incredible results at day-14 and then explaining the shortfall of results by day-28 is exactly what CYDY should be doing.  They asked the FDA for increased dosing and Jay Lalezari talked about this on the Oct 20 CC:

So yes, I do think ignoring this data simply because it's a subset of the entire is idiotic and it reeks of the tactics the #shortmafia would use to distract longs from what actually happened.  This drug works and needs to be administered to critical patients ASAP.  Plenty of lives have been lost already; let's do something that will actually save some lives.

You can't say for sure the drug works...because trials show otherwise.

You can't blast shortmafia for their pessimism, but ignore your optimistic bias.

Could it POSSIBLY work? Sure, but we need more trials to prove it and it's not a given. 

 

[BassNBrew]

You can't say for sure the drug works...because trials show otherwise.

You can't blast shortmafia for their pessimism, but ignore your optimistic bias.

Could it POSSIBLY work? Sure, but we need more trials to prove it and it's not a given. 

Actually he can say he knows it works. I think he’s done that more often than Adam F. has killed babies. 

 

[ex-ghost]

Nice upwards movement today.

 

[unckeyherb]

POWERHOUR.  Would be nice to see it close at $3

 

[Zegras11]

You can't blast shortmafia for their pessimism, but ignore your optimistic bias.

I can.   On motive alone.   Chet has pointed to issues with the company since the start. He's not trying to manipulate anyone into doing anything like the shorts are.

Pretty interesting how the same gang comes here on cue to bash and bash and bash all the time. It's like clockwork.

 

[ex-ghost]

POWERHOUR.  Would be nice to see it close at $3

Looking good so far....

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

Pretty interesting how the same gang comes here on cue to bash and bash and bash all the time. It's like clockwork.

I don't understand.  Its a CYDY thread, you just want a circle of people that parrot the same thing all the time?

You sound like everyone on yahoo who mute those that don't agree with them.

Weird

 

[unckeyherb]

I don't understand.  Its a CYDY thread, you just want a circle of people that parrot the same thing all the time?

You sound like everyone on yahoo who mute those that don't agree with them.

Weird

I appreciate the viewpoint.  

 

[Capella]

I can.   On motive alone.   Chet has pointed to issues with the company since the start. He's not trying to manipulate anyone into doing anything like the shorts are.

Pretty interesting how the same gang comes here on cue to bash and bash and bash all the time. It's like clockwork.

Is @BassNBrewactually Adam Feurenstein? Let’s discuss. 

 

[chet]

You can't say for sure the drug works...because trials show otherwise.

You can't blast shortmafia for their pessimism, but ignore your optimistic bias.

Could it POSSIBLY work? Sure, but we need more trials to prove it and it's not a given. 

I have said plenty of negative things about the management.  I can say it works because they've hit endpoints with statistical significance in both trials.  Not primary but that doesn't matter right now.  The drug works and I've known it for awhile.  Whether it be the peer reviewed papers that confirm its MOA, the anecdotal evidence from all of the eIND use or the trial results--it all adds up and shows that it works.  How many people have to die before you're satisfied?  

Not sure why anyone would want to be so negative in a pandemic.  Does it feel good to be such a pronounced hater with something that could do so much good?

 

[dkp993]

I appreciate the viewpoint.  

.... as long as it’s one I agree with.  
 

*oh wait that’s the PSF.  
**not directed at you herb. 

 

[Zegras11]

I don't understand.  Its a CYDY thread, you just want a circle of people that parrot the same thing all the time?

You sound like everyone on yahoo who mute those that don't agree with them.

Weird

LOL. You only have one view point in this thread to the point of incredible redundancy.

Did you miss what I said about how Chet has pointed out negative things about the company?

ETA:  It's amazing how you always know what the price will be and post predictions every time negative news comes out, but when positive news comes out a few days ago you are completely baffled.

 

[Zegras11]

Is @BassNBrewactually Adam Feurenstein? Let’s discuss. 

Second cousin

 

[ex-ghost]

Flying high into the close.

 

[unckeyherb]

Flying high into the close.

power hour.  Really nice to see.  Prepping for the long weekend

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

LOL. You only have one view point in this thread to the point of incredible redundancy.

Did you miss what I said about how Chet has pointed out negative things about the company?

Dude, you are so wrong

I've praised CYDY plenty when I think they are on the right track. Am I more biased negative presently, yeah I wouldn't argue that I'm not.

However any good counter arguments to anything that is said I read and take those opinions in.  It helps me to validate what Im thinking as well.

All i can say is I'm not here to just rain on the CYDY parade, I very well may invest in it again.

This is so strange behavior on your side, sorry you are so easily ruffled

 

[Zegras11]

Dude, you are so wrong

I've praised CYDY plenty when I think they are on the right track. Am I more biased negative presently, yeah I wouldn't argue that I'm not.

However any good counter arguments to anything that is said I read and take those opinions in.  It helps me to validate what Im thinking as well.

All i can say is I'm not here to just rain on the CYDY parade, I very well may invest in it again.

This is so strange behavior on your side, sorry you are so easily ruffled

you haven't posted a positive thing since Adam's tweets hit this thread.  You're pro Hengen, and that's fine, but you don't waste a second to post anything negative in this thread.

 

[BassNBrew]

I’m just here to shake everyone’s confidence so I can steal your shares on the cheap

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

you haven't posted a positive thing since Adam's tweets hit this thread.  You're pro Hengen, and that's fine, but you don't waste a second to post anything negative in this thread.

Just ignore me, I don't know what to say. Its clear anything I say rubs you the wrong way.

 

[Capella]

I’m just here to shake everyone’s confidence so I can steal your shares on the cheap

#### yea 

 

[chet]

I’m just here to shake everyone’s confidence so I can steal your shares on the cheap

Thanks for the cheap shares!

 

[BassNBrew]

Thanks for the cheap shares!

You’re welcome 

 

[The Iguana]

I'm just here for chet to help me to retire early... 

 

[The Gator]

Man, reading this thread today you’d think it tanked. We need to get back to our millionaire numbers and lambo talk. 

 

[chet]

Where did actually close?  I was in a tight backgammon match for the last two hours of the market.  My screen says $3.19 but I have a feeling that's incorrect.

 

[unckeyherb]

Where did actually close?  I was in a tight backgammon match for the last two hours of the market.  My screen says $3.19 but I have a feeling that's incorrect.

thats it.  3.19

 

[Dave RL]

It's pretty easy to see which way some people have their cognitive bias set. Once you recognize that it's easy to listen without over analyzing how they get to their conclusions. It is nice though, to have a mix of opinions where you can challenge your own. I personally don't like when the only reason for the ultra-opinionated post is to influence the stock price or just stir the pot (above and beyond normal humor). I hope we continue the discussion. Have a good holiday break FBG's!!

 

[SFBayDuck]

I’m just here to shake everyone’s confidence so I can steal your shares on the cheap

Which we can buy right back 6 minutes later after you take that $.02 gain.

 

[BassNBrew]

Which we can buy right back 6 minutes later after you take that $.02 gain.

Hey now!  I’m a 2% guy, not 2 cent

 

[BassNBrew]

Hey now!  I’m a 2% guy, not 2 cent

Crap, we’re talk cytodyn so you are right Duck as they are the same. 

 

[ChiefD]

Is @BassNBrewactually Adam Feurenstein? Let’s discuss. 

No way.

There is no way that twerp Fuerenstein could run a trail race for 100 miles while drinking a 6 pack after two weeks of training. 

 

[Rodrigo Duterte]

Not sure why anyone would want to be so negative in a pandemic.  Does it feel good to be such a pronounced hater with something that could do so much good?

What are you whining about?  This is a thread specifically about people trying to make money on a stock.  During a pandemic.  Save the "you're trying to do so much good" BS, and get back to the vacation homes and yacht talk, right?

Someone disagrees with your pie in the sky drug, along with a whole lot of shady #### behind the company you champion (with a huge vested interest), the least you could do is pull down the facade and take it like a man. 

Guilt tripping a dissenting post.  Give me a break.

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

This thread is getting odd.  Highly doubt anyone here is actively rooting for this drug not to work or even be approved.

Agree we are trying to make money (or really just not lose).   Whether I think the FDA is going to approve leronlimab or not does not mean I hope it fails.

What is going on here?  This thread used to be where I would go for grounded outlooks when i got sick of hearing all the yahoos. 

Differing opinions used to be respected a lot more.

 

[pecorino]

What is going on here? 

A whole lot of holding going on in here.

 

[Capella]

Here is the only thing we know about this stock/thread. The price will go back up again, we will all have a chance to eject for gains, none of us will do so, 30% of you will then sell the morning after bad news at the worst possible price, bassnbrew will continue to trade for 3 cent gains while pulled over on the side of the road to do so, and eventually the FDA will approve it for the 8% of the population dying over age 85 that it works for.
 

The stock will go down 27% the next day. 

 

[chet]

What are you whining about?  This is a thread specifically about people trying to make money on a stock.  During a pandemic.  Save the "you're trying to do so much good" BS, and get back to the vacation homes and yacht talk, right?

Someone disagrees with your pie in the sky drug, along with a whole lot of shady #### behind the company you champion (with a huge vested interest), the least you could do is pull down the facade and take it like a man. 

Guilt tripping a dissenting post.  Give me a break.

Who are you? Run along--the adults are talking.

 

[dkp993]

Differing opinions used to be respected a lot more.

They still are brother.  It’s all good, don’t sweat it. 

 

[dkp993]

Here is the only thing we know about this stock/thread. The price will go back up again, we will all have a chance to eject for gains, none of us will do so, 30% of you will then sell the morning after bad news at the worst possible price, bassnbrew will continue to trade for 3 cent gains while pulled over on the side of the road to do so, and eventually the FDA will approve it for the 8% of the population dying over age 85 that it works for.
 

The stock will go down 27% the next day. 

K. Now do GME and HGEN. 

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Here is the only thing we know about this stock/thread. The price will go back up again, we will all have a chance to eject for gains, none of us will do so, 30% of you will then sell the morning after bad news at the worst possible price, bassnbrew will continue to trade for 3 cent gains while pulled over on the side of the road to do so, and eventually the FDA will approve it for the 8% of the population dying over age 85 that it works for.
 

The stock will go down 27% the next day. 

  

 

[chet]

Differing opinions used to be respected a lot more.

I don't mind dissenting opinions but at least base them on facts instead of the BS that the #shortmafia has invented.  Continuously saying both trials failed is patently false.  They were poorly designed and yes, didn't hit their primary endpoints but they did hit other secondary endpoints and have provided valuable insight into how the drug works and affirmed Dr. Patterson's hypothesis.

Management is awful but the drug works wonderfully.

 

[SouthJersey]

@chetis Patterson your brother?  college roommate? 2nd cousin?

 

[chet]

@chetis Patterson your brother?  college roommate? 2nd cousin?

No.  However, I do have a relationship with him and consider him to be the world's foremost expert on COVID and COVID long haulers.