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***Official*** Dem NV Caucus / GOP SC Primary Thread (1 Viewer)

AAABatteries said:
While I get what you are saying, it's difficult to vote for someone that I think is dishonest and only does what is in her best interests to "reduce the sleaze" in Washington.  I'll have to find another way to do it.
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Okay.  Even though that person would fill the Supreme Court with people who would overturn Citizens United and get billionaires and dark money out of politics?  Got it, I guess. 

Let me know when you find another way.

 
Aerial Assault said:
Okay.  Even though that person would fill the Supreme Court with people who would overturn Citizens United and get billionaires and dark money out of politics?  Got it, I guess. 

Let me know when you find another way.
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Coporate money corrupting our politicians predates the Citizens United decision.  I doubt the candidate who has, as a carerr politician, accumalated a net worth north of $20M is going to remedy the problem.

 
Aerial Assault said:
Okay.  Even though that person would fill the Supreme Court with people who would overturn Citizens United and get billionaires and dark money out of politics?  Got it, I guess. 

Let me know when you find another way.
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The only thing she's filling is her massive ego and lining her pockets.  It's just a nice coincidence for her that her constituents line up against CU.. She'd bail on it tomorrow if she knew it would prevent her from winning.

 
I don't understand how Hillary has so much support. I don't know a single person who likes her. I know tons of people who like trump.

 
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Short Corner said:
Coporate money corrupting our politicians predates the Citizens United decision.  I doubt the candidate who has, as a carerr politician, accumalated a net worth north of $20M is going to remedy the problem.
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Sounds like a great rationale for doing nothing about the problem.  Thanks for that.

 
AAABatteries said:
The only thing she's filling is her massive ego and lining her pockets.  It's just a nice coincidence for her that her constituents line up against CU.. She'd bail on it tomorrow if she knew it would prevent her from winning.
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Cool.  This is the part where I tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about, but know you to be a good dude, so no more needs be said. 

 
timschochet said:
This is already bad for Trump, which makes me happy indeed. He was supposed to cruise to a win here. If he loses...
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:lmao:

What channel were you watching? Everybody but CNN called it for Trump with only a few % reporting.

After calling out GWB and Pope Francine this week, in addition to dealing with Cruz shenanigans, a #### ton of "evangelicals", and SC being a Bush state I would say a double digit win by Trump was an outstanding performance.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Love the Schtick that you think Hillary isn't part of the problem. And your passive aggressive anger responding to anyone that doesn't support Hillary.  
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I didn't realize that schtick is a German noun; thanks for clearing that up.  Also, as I assume you do not support Hillary, please note my utter, complete, total, and all-consuming flame of "passive aggressive anger" directed at you in this response, thus proving your point.  Nicely played. 

 
Aerial Assault said:
Cool.  This is the part where I tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about, but know you to be a good dude, so no more needs be said. 
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Agree - we just differ on what we think of her.  She is next to last on the list of people who have ran or are running that I would vote for.  Trump is last.  I think both would say or do anything to win.

 
One thing I will say - you won't find me bashing Hillary if she wins.  I'm a big believer in we support the winner.  Whoever wins will be my President and I will respect them and hope they do well.

 
Short Corner said:
Or just a rationale for opposing said candidate.
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Understood.  But unless you're supporting Sanders - whose campaign is now on life support or soon will be - your chosen candidate isn't - to put it mildly - going to do anything to reverse Citizens United.  Nor is not supporting anyone or holding out for some Fairy Godmother third-party candidate, if that's your bag.   

 
Shula-holic said:
I just find it interesting how someone is expected to get 50% in a 6 person field, that's why I think it's spin.  Make the case if it's not spin.  Do you see Cruz or Rubio getting out?  My point is, even if Bush, Kasich, and Carson left today, most think that's a 40/30/30 split for Trump.  He still wins.  So unless and until it's down to 2, he doesn't need 50%.  
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Hillary has barely been able to squeak out 50% in a two person field.

 
Aerial Assault said:
Understood.  But unless you're supporting Sanders - whose campaign is now on life support or soon will be - your chosen candidate isn't - to put it mildly - going to do anything to reverse Citizens United.  Nor is not supporting anyone or holding out for some Fairy Godmother third-party candidate, if that's your bag.   
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And Hillary won't do anything about the trainwreck called Obamacare. 

 
timschochet said:
I'm really sick of these type of comparisons. You can keep making them, but they only look bad for you, not for Hillary Clinton. 

Hillary has been accused by her enemies of wrongdoing. But she's never been found guilty of any felony by a court (nor has she ever even been charged.) She has never in her entire life made so insulting a comment against a political opponent as Donald Trump did just this morning. To compare these two people, to find Hillary worse as apparently you do, is truly an embarrassment. Again, not for Hillary but for you. 
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I hope you don't ever change Tim.

As far as Trump's tweet, I don't see why you are so triggered. If Scalia's service was at a mosque is there any doubt Obama would have attended? Just because something offends YOU doesn't mean it is wrong.

 
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sho nuff said:
Max...this was your reply to "squish"....when he claimed she had not been charged or found guilty of a crime.

His reply was to someone calling her a criminal.

Spin it again now how your thought process was only about honesty and being trustworthy. 

Or just own it and move on.
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Negative.  Our whole conversation was based on me calling her a dishonest, untrustworthy POS.  He then turned around and said I called her a criminal (strawman alert!) and wanted evidence of her being in a jail cell.   I simply wanted to know if his standard of proof for a lying, untrustworthy POS is someone being in a jail cell first.

Seems simple enough for him to answer, but he keeps evading.

 
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Max, several folks specifically referred to Hillary as a criminal.  Clearly that is who squiz was referring to.  

 
tommyGunZ said:
Max, several folks specifically referred to Hillary as a criminal.  Clearly that is who squiz was referring to.  
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I called her a criminal.  You, Tim, and squiz or whoever can play your mental gymnastics about asking for a link where she's ever been convicted, charge or any other nonsense.  I'm pretty familiar with rules around classified information and just because she uses her political influence to not be charged doesn't mean she didn't perform a criminal act.  

 
rude classless thugs said:
We heard the exact same thing here about Romney and Obama. In fact Willie Neslon was predicting a Romney win based on his friends he polled in Tulsa, plus all the Romney yard signs he saw. We saw how predicitive that ended up being.
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Romney won all 77 counties.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
I called her a criminal.  You, Tim, and squiz or whoever can play your mental gymnastics about asking for a link where she's ever been convicted, charge or any other nonsense.  I'm pretty familiar with rules around classified information and just because she uses her political influence to not be charged doesn't mean she didn't perform a criminal act.  
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There's really no denying that she committed a crime.

 
Bernie is too dogmatic. Sure there are some unethical people on "Wall Street" but everybody in the financial sector, successful people, or the "1%" arent all evil. We cannot have a president that wholly demonizes in this way.  He's got nothing else. 

 
MaxThreshold said:
Negative.  Our whole conversation was based on me calling her a dishonest, untrustworthy POS.  He then turned around and said I called her a criminal (strawman alert!) and wanted evidence of her being in a jail cell.   I simply wanted to know if his standard of proof for a lying, untrustworthy POS is someone being in a jail cell first.

Seems simple enough for him to answer, but he keeps evading.
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BS...what i quoted from you was your response to him talking to someone else about her being a criminal.

The rest is your spin and denial which is not based in the facts of what was being discussed.  Its ok you won't admit it, but everyone already knows it.  So keep digging in and make yourself look worse.

 
sho nuff said:
BS...what i quoted from you was your response to him talking to someone else about her being a criminal.

The rest is your spin and denial which is not based in the facts of what was being discussed.  Its ok you won't admit it, but everyone already knows it.  So keep digging in and make yourself look worse.
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You can spin it any way you like (which you often do with no basis in reality), but I was asking a simple question of what is the standard for considering someone a liar - which is what OUR back and forth was about.  For Hillary supporters, that appears to be a difficult question.

In the meantime, feel free to answer the question yourself since you seem so interested in this.  Or, better yet, stay out of the conversation entirely.  TIA!

For the record, this is where the conversation chain started where I first proposed the question.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
You can spin it any way you like (which you often do with no basis in reality), but I was asking a simple question of what is the standard for considering someone a liar - which is what OUR back and forth was about.  For Hillary supporters, that appears to be a difficult question.

In the meantime, feel free to answer the question yourself since you seem so interested in this.  Or, better yet, stay out of the conversation entirely.  TIA!
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Reality. ..click the link to squistion's post above. It shows im speaking in truth...not spin.

Liars?...she is a liar...they all are to some extent.  That you think she is worse than those on the roght is not shocking given how you have shown that you lean far enough roght to only care when a democrat lies.

Bernie and Rand were the only ones i would trust in a way.

 
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