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** Official ** Detroit Tigers 2007 Thread (2 Viewers)
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Doctor Detroit
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Rodney for 1 mill? That's a steal. Robertson a #4 starter for 3.26?I love paying guys one year contracts.
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Dave Dombrowski and the way this franchise is being run. Outstanding stuff. Team is also negotiating with Guillen on an extension. I think it comes down to his health vs how much he thinks he's worth. Hopefully they can find some common ground.
Doctor Detroit
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whoknew
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Doctor Detroit
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Yeah he's an old grumpy guy that has nothing to loose by saying what is on his mind. He's one of the few guys who can handle a Sheffield, a young pitching staff, and the unique mix this team has. Some people in Detroit were saying he made just a small difference to this organization and I think those people are worthless baseball minds. He makes a few mistakes now and again but besides not pitching Bonderman earlier in the ALCS and WS which was a head scratcher, he was nearly perfect. This team is going to be good and I'm excited but my expectations are certainly tempered. I think the first goal is getting out of the gate fast, then avoiding big injuries especially to the pitching staff, then getting into the playoffs. The division is insane good and Cleveland will just clog things up even further. Can't wait until pitchers and catchers report.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
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ready to rock DD.
even if they dont make the playoffs this season. Just contend.
The pitching is good enough, throw in sheff and who knows.
Im not so sure that Minny or the Chisox improved themselves much
Best division in biesbol though
even if they dont make the playoffs this season. Just contend.
The pitching is good enough, throw in sheff and who knows.
Im not so sure that Minny or the Chisox improved themselves much
Best division in biesbol though
Doctor Detroit
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whoknew
Footballguy
"Four years ago," Dombrowski said, "you'd try to sign players, and they'd give you reasons why they didn't want to play for you. … 'You're not drawing well. You're not winning. Cold-weather climate. Players don't come from there.' I heard all those reasons -- and many more.
"I remember one [free agent] who was doing everything he could to not accept our offer. He just kept stringing us along, hoping something else would come up, even though we pretty much knew we were the only team that had made an offer. Even the agent was saying, 'We're just waiting.' And it went on a long time. I mean months."
Not anymore.
Now that a World Series has cast its glow on the franchise, it's almost shocking to hear the marquee future free agents -- Pudge Rodriguez, Carlos Guillen, Kenny Rogers -- just about begging this team to sign them, extend them, keep them around.
You see Casey, jumping at the Tigers' offer last fall, not even a week into the free-agent signing period. You hear Rodriguez saying: "Everyone wants to come here right now." So how magical is the power of winning? That says it all.
"I remember one [free agent] who was doing everything he could to not accept our offer. He just kept stringing us along, hoping something else would come up, even though we pretty much knew we were the only team that had made an offer. Even the agent was saying, 'We're just waiting.' And it went on a long time. I mean months."
Not anymore.
Now that a World Series has cast its glow on the franchise, it's almost shocking to hear the marquee future free agents -- Pudge Rodriguez, Carlos Guillen, Kenny Rogers -- just about begging this team to sign them, extend them, keep them around.
You see Casey, jumping at the Tigers' offer last fall, not even a week into the free-agent signing period. You hear Rodriguez saying: "Everyone wants to come here right now." So how magical is the power of winning? That says it all.
whoknew
Footballguy
The closer
The closer was a Tiger back in the days of Deivi Cruz and Melvin Nieves and Omar Olivares. Todd Jones first joined the Tigers in February 1997, the season after a 109-loss nightmare.
He hasn't been a Tiger for all 10 seasons since then. But he goes back in time further than anyone around him. He saw a once-great franchise disintegrating in front of his eyes. He'd known nothing in this town but losing and more losing.
Until last year, when the Tigers brought him back, after a 4½-year, seven-team intermission. For this.
"My whole career," he said, "my knock was: 'He can't get big outs. He can't pitch in big-pressure [situations]. He's just a second-tier closer.' Well, being on a good team gives you the avenue to debate that point."
Three years ago, he got released by the Devil Rays. So imagine the feeling of this man at age 38, finding himself back in Detroit in October 2006, in the middle of a celebration he never thought he'd live to see: A celebration by a team that had just won the ALCS and now had an appointment with the World Series.
It was so overwhelming that, more than an hour after the last pitch, "I went back out on the field," Jones said. "And I sat on the back of the mound -- for five minutes, 10 minutes … just sitting there, freezing, in this empty ballpark, knowing I was going to the World Series. And it was such a fulfilling moment."
Later that night, he and his wife went out to dinner -- and got a standing ovation. For the next week, as the Tigers waited for the Series to start, he could hardly walk down the street without experiencing another head-on collision with rampant euphoria.
"People were just happy," he said. "We made them happy. People just wanted to come up and say thanks. They didn't want anything. They didn't want you to sign a picture or anything. They just wanted to say thanks. It was an awesome feeling.
"To be a part of that kind of team, that hits such a chord with people, I mean, that is why you play."
The closer was a Tiger back in the days of Deivi Cruz and Melvin Nieves and Omar Olivares. Todd Jones first joined the Tigers in February 1997, the season after a 109-loss nightmare.
He hasn't been a Tiger for all 10 seasons since then. But he goes back in time further than anyone around him. He saw a once-great franchise disintegrating in front of his eyes. He'd known nothing in this town but losing and more losing.
Until last year, when the Tigers brought him back, after a 4½-year, seven-team intermission. For this.
"My whole career," he said, "my knock was: 'He can't get big outs. He can't pitch in big-pressure [situations]. He's just a second-tier closer.' Well, being on a good team gives you the avenue to debate that point."
Three years ago, he got released by the Devil Rays. So imagine the feeling of this man at age 38, finding himself back in Detroit in October 2006, in the middle of a celebration he never thought he'd live to see: A celebration by a team that had just won the ALCS and now had an appointment with the World Series.
It was so overwhelming that, more than an hour after the last pitch, "I went back out on the field," Jones said. "And I sat on the back of the mound -- for five minutes, 10 minutes … just sitting there, freezing, in this empty ballpark, knowing I was going to the World Series. And it was such a fulfilling moment."
Later that night, he and his wife went out to dinner -- and got a standing ovation. For the next week, as the Tigers waited for the Series to start, he could hardly walk down the street without experiencing another head-on collision with rampant euphoria.
"People were just happy," he said. "We made them happy. People just wanted to come up and say thanks. They didn't want anything. They didn't want you to sign a picture or anything. They just wanted to say thanks. It was an awesome feeling.
"To be a part of that kind of team, that hits such a chord with people, I mean, that is why you play."
whoknew
Footballguy
Fairly good news out of camp so far. Everyone seems pretty happy (except for Sheff, who is only really happy when he's #####ing about something), Miller pitched well yesterday against the Mets and Sleeth seems to be pitching ok. He still has a ways to go, obviously, but it'd be GREAT to see him regain prospect status.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
Tiger Town is back.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
They suck. The White Sox will catch them any day now.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Cant Wait.
I was disappointed in the WS about a week, then after reflecting for awhile just realized how great a season that was for a dormant franchise.
Now lets win the division this year and get back to the series
Did Nefei perez make the 25 man roster over Santiago???
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SofaKings
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It all depends how healthy he is. I think he played 152 last year but I think the previous two years didn't get over 110 or so. If he gets to 130-140, it's gonna be a lot of cash and I don't think we pay it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If he stays healthy, Maroth might be the best #5 pitcher in baseball.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
fixed. This is his last season before A.miller takes his spot anyway.
Not a good start though. Ledzema fills his spot I bet
whoknew
Footballguy
Actually they are saying Chad Durbin.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
never herd of him
whoknew
Footballguy
He's like 28 or 29, bounced around a few teams and the minors. Was in Toledo last year and almost made the team this year.
Doctor Detroit
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Durbin made the team.
whoknew
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SofaKings
Footballguy
Unfortunately I see Verlander struggling. ST seems to be a continuation of his last two month woes. I think his head needs to catch up with his athletic ability.
Doctor Detroit
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Had to change the name since we already had one of these.
2007 Detroit Tigers
C Ivan Rodriguez,
1B Sean Casey
2B Placido Polanco
SS Carlos Guillen
3B Brandon Inge
LF Craig Monroe
CF Curtis Granderson
RF Magglio Ordonez
DH Gary Sheffield
Bench:
C Vance Wilson
MIF/CF Omar Infante
RF/LF/1B Marcus Thames
3B/2B/SS Neifi Perez
Rotation: Jeremy Bonderman, Kenny Rogers, Justin Verlander, Nate Robertson, Mike Maroth
Bullpen: Todd Jones, Joel Zumaya, Fernando Rodney, Wil Ledezma, Jose Mesa, Jason Grilli, Chad Durbin
Perez makes the team over Santiago and Shelton due to what is being called a "good Spring." Perez may have trouble keeping his spot if he falters and Santiago is probably the 26th guy.
Durbin and Grilli are the mop up guys and hopefully won't be counted on for a whole lot. Dubin has no more optins so he is likely to stay on the roster unless he completely stinks. To me Grilli is the worst player on the roster and despite being an organizational favorite, is a marginal pitcher who has control issues. His stuff is decent but with Campusano bringing a lefthanded option to the pen I would expect grilli to be sent down if he struggles at all.
Some Tiger fans were saying they wanted to see Shelton make the team but Shelton may or may not be a future long-term option. I think he may be a career triple A player myself but I can't be sure. He certainly needs to get as many at bats as possible but he will be back on the major league roster if and when there are injuries. He will get his chances to prove his worth and only time will tell if he is a guy who can handle the pressure and speed of major league baseball for an extended period of time. He has the power but does he have the essentials? Marcus Thames will be Sean Casey's backup at 1B in the meanwhile.
2007 Detroit Tigers
C Ivan Rodriguez,
1B Sean Casey
2B Placido Polanco
SS Carlos Guillen
3B Brandon Inge
LF Craig Monroe
CF Curtis Granderson
RF Magglio Ordonez
DH Gary Sheffield
Bench:
C Vance Wilson
MIF/CF Omar Infante
RF/LF/1B Marcus Thames
3B/2B/SS Neifi Perez
Rotation: Jeremy Bonderman, Kenny Rogers, Justin Verlander, Nate Robertson, Mike Maroth
Bullpen: Todd Jones, Joel Zumaya, Fernando Rodney, Wil Ledezma, Jose Mesa, Jason Grilli, Chad Durbin
Perez makes the team over Santiago and Shelton due to what is being called a "good Spring." Perez may have trouble keeping his spot if he falters and Santiago is probably the 26th guy.
Durbin and Grilli are the mop up guys and hopefully won't be counted on for a whole lot. Dubin has no more optins so he is likely to stay on the roster unless he completely stinks. To me Grilli is the worst player on the roster and despite being an organizational favorite, is a marginal pitcher who has control issues. His stuff is decent but with Campusano bringing a lefthanded option to the pen I would expect grilli to be sent down if he struggles at all.
Some Tiger fans were saying they wanted to see Shelton make the team but Shelton may or may not be a future long-term option. I think he may be a career triple A player myself but I can't be sure. He certainly needs to get as many at bats as possible but he will be back on the major league roster if and when there are injuries. He will get his chances to prove his worth and only time will tell if he is a guy who can handle the pressure and speed of major league baseball for an extended period of time. He has the power but does he have the essentials? Marcus Thames will be Sean Casey's backup at 1B in the meanwhile.
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Doctor Detroit
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It's a blood clot which is usually not serious. Obviously they won't be rushing him back so expect him to miss two to three starts at the beginning of the season.
Doctor Detroit
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OBTW, I'm hedging. 
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Rogers should like the rest, It hasn't hurt Roger Clemens too much the last couple years.
Doctor Detroit
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Went to spring training and had a blast. Seen Maybin hit a triple and a dinger and Bonderman (my favorite) pitch in the same game.
The one thing that surprised me was the average age of the staff at Joker Marchant. Has to be 78.
The one thing that surprised me was the average age of the staff at Joker Marchant. Has to be 78.
Al Czervik
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(and busting my cherry on the new forum.)
Doctor Detroit
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and :XThree days and a wake-up!
Doctor Detroit
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Mod Team:
Please combine the two Detroit Tiger threads. TIA.
Please combine the two Detroit Tiger threads. TIA.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Took this guy as one of my 5 minor league players in a new keeper league this year. I get to keep 2 of the 5.
Doctor Detroit
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He's pretty much a can't miss. Should see the big leagues in the late summer of 2008 and be a starter in 2009. He could come up next year but I think they are gonna give him a little time. Three years in the minors seems right. He is Eric Davis with longer legs.Took this guy as one of my 5 minor league players in a new keeper league this year. I get to keep 2 of the 5.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Do you know what team/class/city he is starting with?I live right by the Lake County class A Indians team here in Cleveland. I could do my own scouting. Screw baseball america.He's pretty much a can't miss. Should see the big leagues in the late summer of 2008 and be a starter in 2009. He could come up next year but I think they are gonna give him a little time. Three years in the minors seems right. He is Eric Davis with longer legs.Took this guy as one of my 5 minor league players in a new keeper league this year. I get to keep 2 of the 5.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Raging weasel
Footballguy
just heard during the game broadcast that rogers had surgeory to remove the clot and will miss 6-8 weeks.
Gonzo Stokes
Footballguy
What is the lineup looking like? Guillen batting 3rd or 5th?
The Houston Stallions
Footballguy
Yep. Do you think they recall Miller?? I just picked him up in my league.
ditka...mike ditka
Footballguy
Granderson will be a stud this year...
Doctor Detroit
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Three months according to tiger insider. Not good. Durbin was not supposed to be the guy in this spot. I'd say Tata would be first in line for the job if Rogers is gone longer or Durbin falters.
Doctor Detroit
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Leyland said that only Durbin and Miller were considered to fill rogers spot but Miller needed more minor league starts. Maybe we will see Miller soon.
The Houston Stallions
Footballguy
I'm betting we'll see him very soon. Like in two weeks. He was sent down before Rogers had the surgury. I guess it's possible that the Tigers knew he would have the surgury when Miller was sent down and just didn't release anything to the press. hmmm..........maybe anwsering that question would shed more light on their rotation going forward.I'd love to hear some more input on this.
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