Hang 10
Footballguy
I'm not sure how this season is going to turn it around for me. Can't stand this whole Julia Styles story line, these ritual killings is a yawner & I HATE the Batista/Leguarta thing. Terribly disappointing season. 
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I'm not sure how this season is going to turn it around for me. Can't stand this whole Julia Styles story line, these ritual killings is a yawner & I HATE the Batista/Leguarta thing. Terribly disappointing season. 
I'm not sure how this season is going to turn it around for me. Can't stand this whole Julia Styles story line, these ritual killings is a yawner & I HATE the Batista/Leguarta thing. Terribly disappointing season.
I never watch the previews for the next episode, so hopefully the people predicting awesomeness will be correct.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
throw in the harrison bs, the deb/quinn crap & i just find myself rooting for more masuka time!I'm not sure how this season is going to turn it around for me. Can't stand this whole Julia Styles story line, these ritual killings is a yawner & I HATE the Batista/Leguarta thing. Terribly disappointing season.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I'm glad I'm not alone in saying this season is starting to lose me.
kip stabone
Footballguy
One of the problems I have with this season is Boyd Fowler's death. Apparently nobody is looking for him or knows he is dead yet? How is Dexter going to cover up being unconscious in an ambulance with an unconscious Boyd Fowler hours before Boyd went missing? Shouldn't Dexter be dealing with these issues? I am also troubled by the Angle/La Guerta plotline as I really don't care and the Santa Muerte killings don't do anything for me either. Although I do like that new latin cop, she's got some serious junk going on. Not as hot as Trinity's daughter however. I think they need to wrap this series up or start really shaking things up (like they did last season with killing Rita).
And good call EG on Dildo Dunphy would have never thought of that.
And good call EG on Dildo Dunphy would have never thought of that.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Yeah, you'd think the Sanitation Department would have noticed that Boyd stop showing up for work. Also, I've been troubled by the fact that no red flags have been raised for LaGuerta by the fact that a second detective is raising suspicions about Dexter in less than 3 years.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Yeah, this show leaves threads hanging all the time. It's not the only one. The Sopranos had dozens every season. 24 had lots. It's Dexter, it's not the pinnacle of TV or anything, so they just stand out a little more.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
How does Lumen not ask Dexter what happened at the murder scene as soon as Dexter shows up at his house? I'd think that would be her prime concern.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
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Footballguy
Man, this is a tough crowd.
Nothing was going to top last years series, nothing.
Expectations rightfully were very high, but the departure of Rita was obviously going to be a vital part of this season.
Those expecting a comic book villain of the year, every year for this show aren't being fair.
Yes, it is the worst season so far, but I don't think it's that much worse than Season 3 and the writing is infinitely better than Season 1 or 2.
If it really burns you, don't watch. The show will either be cancelled or try another year where they listen to asinine opinions and assign a dastardly villain of the year.
Nothing was going to top last years series, nothing.
Expectations rightfully were very high, but the departure of Rita was obviously going to be a vital part of this season.
Those expecting a comic book villain of the year, every year for this show aren't being fair.
Yes, it is the worst season so far, but I don't think it's that much worse than Season 3 and the writing is infinitely better than Season 1 or 2.
If it really burns you, don't watch. The show will either be cancelled or try another year where they listen to asinine opinions and assign a dastardly villain of the year.
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
What do you mean by this? I thought the first couple of seasons were great; especially season 2. At the time, they were fresh and like nothing else on TV. If anything, seasons 3-5 seem like a lot of plot recycling.Maybe I'm not "deep" enough, but I really liked how in the first couple of seasons, they would have an overall plot them (Ice Truck Killer, Bay Harbor Butcher), but most episodes would also include a one-off kill. I thought the show really started to slow down in season 3 when they would go 2-3 episodes without a kill.
corpcow
Footballguy
I have to say - I'm sort of with the folks who are ragging on this season, and it's not because of the villian thing. I thought the first episode or two was AWESOME, but the acting is really starting to get to me, and there's been some especially ####ty ways of having things wrapped up neatly even in a show which stretches the boundaries of having things wrapped up too neatly. I've been a long-time fan and I'm holding out hope that it comes together, but right now I'm feeling like this is the weakest season so far.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I'm not as down on the plot lines or the characters as a lot of you seem to be, but it does bother me that they seem to be leaving the limits of believability more than in the past. I don't expect any TV show to be perfect in this respect, but this season has been bad IMO.
Another example from last night: The uniformed officers just sitting outside the warehouse until the homicide detectives showed up. They didn't know there was a homicide, they just knew that someone had reported shots fired. Any real policemen would have been investigating the scene as soon as they arrived.
Another example from last night: The uniformed officers just sitting outside the warehouse until the homicide detectives showed up. They didn't know there was a homicide, they just knew that someone had reported shots fired. Any real policemen would have been investigating the scene as soon as they arrived.
El Floppo
Footballguy
It's kind of turning into 3's Company. Chrissy's doooor?... I thought you said Chrissy's a whore. I feel like it's been goofy and implausible pretty much since season 2- but I still enjoy it. My disbelief has been permanently suspended though.
Anybody else already tired of that William Macy show they're pimping hard at Showtime?
Anybody else already tired of that William Macy show they're pimping hard at Showtime?
corpcow
Footballguy
Dexter even made it a point to explain, 24-style, every detail to Lumen on why they couldn't come in - "it's a homicide scene, patrol can't come on the scene until detectives arrive". 1st, how come every other scene is always roped off by patrol? Second, there was no homicide reported, there were shots fired reported, and I'm pretty sure that a patrolman could/would investigate...PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Dave Baker
Damn glad to meet you
Oddly enough, I'm actually loving this season. The Smits season was terrible. Lithgow's was good but I like this one so far just as much, even though I don't like the Stiles angle at all. I haven't seen last night episode yet, but the one before was one of my favorite ever.
And Masuka cracks me up more than ever.
And Masuka cracks me up more than ever.
Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
That's basically the main plot point for the season.
biggamer3
Footballguy
Will agree that the episode two back i believe where he had Stiles in captivity was a top notch episode and one of my favs as well in the series, but since then the show has really felt like 10 minutes of storyline and 40 mins of filler with the nonsense between Deb and her f buddy and Bautista/ GuerttaAnd the fact that the whole thing just feels like totally unrealistic this season way more then others. How Luman can track down the people Dexter needs police databases to track down just as fast as Dexter really lost me
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I felt the potential with Smits' character was immense, they just screwed it up. He could have been a true nemesis that lasted a few seasons. I would have like to see him build up an arms race with Dexter using his political connections.
He could have threatened Dexter...ie if I die your family will die. The two of them could have played one helluva game of cat and mouse, with Dexter being the level headed planner but Smits covering up his snap decisions with his connections. Oh well...
He could have threatened Dexter...ie if I die your family will die. The two of them could have played one helluva game of cat and mouse, with Dexter being the level headed planner but Smits covering up his snap decisions with his connections. Oh well...
Hang 10
Footballguy
What an embarrassing episode. The writing and acting was atrocious. Like others have said, why the hell would patrol officers wait for homicide detectives when a homicide hasn't been reported?
And, yeah, I'm sure when they saw the saranwrapped guy holding the planted gun and guy restrained with bullet wound (with curiously little blood on the floor), the experienced detectives would just say, "case closed".
WTF has happened to this show?
And, yeah, I'm sure when they saw the saranwrapped guy holding the planted gun and guy restrained with bullet wound (with curiously little blood on the floor), the experienced detectives would just say, "case closed".
WTF has happened to this show?
Dave Baker
Damn glad to meet you
Went from one of my favorite episodes to one of their worst. No reason for the silliness as the cops waited at the scene. That could have easily been avoided. The Dexter/Lumen dialogue when he found out she never left Miami was awful.
As for the saranwrapped guy holding the gun to the other victim, the best part of the episode. Unbelievable? Of course. But Masuka was hilarious as always. And cops will actually tend to believe the simplest explanation (even if seemingly absurd) if given the chance.
As for the saranwrapped guy holding the gun to the other victim, the best part of the episode. Unbelievable? Of course. But Masuka was hilarious as always. And cops will actually tend to believe the simplest explanation (even if seemingly absurd) if given the chance.
Doctor Detroit
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Agree with the general consensus that this season has been a great disappointment so far. We've gone from Jimmy Smits and John Lithgow to this. Ugh.
Lumen is a disaster, the whole thing with homicide responding to a shooting, the time lapse for the team to find the body while Dexter is talking to his son, the babysitter, etc. Plus now yet another person he works with is using his own time to bust Dexter.
Anyone remember the show The Practice? Dexter is going in that direction. Hopefully they adjust fire because even though it's not my favorite show, it is on my must watch list every week.
Lumen is a disaster, the whole thing with homicide responding to a shooting, the time lapse for the team to find the body while Dexter is talking to his son, the babysitter, etc. Plus now yet another person he works with is using his own time to bust Dexter.
Anyone remember the show The Practice? Dexter is going in that direction. Hopefully they adjust fire because even though it's not my favorite show, it is on my must watch list every week.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Seriously.When a homicide is reported, they don't let the murderers run around inside and go out the back door to load evidence in their SUV. They secure the area. And they don't let plainclothes techs with no armor go in first armed with primarily flashlights.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Stories and characters were good, but the actual dialog has always been cringeworthy.
jwb
Footballguy
I also don't really buy Quinn going after Dexter so hard - hard enough to enlist help from a pretty creepy dude, etc. I bought Doakes, because they prettymuch introduced him as someone who would do that, but this seems far away from the Quinn character they were developing.
I do like not having a "super-villian" for once, but I'm starting to get tired of all the close calls. And I'm already really tired of every kill having a complication.
Maybe there's only so much they can do with the premise? They did two supervillians, they did a buddy who turned bad at the end, and they did a supervillian / quasi-buddy. And squeezed in the nutty season 2 chick and Doakes as well. What's left?
I think the only really interesting question is do Lumen and Dexter hook up (goodness, I hope not), or does she wind up on his table? Or both?
I do like not having a "super-villian" for once, but I'm starting to get tired of all the close calls. And I'm already really tired of every kill having a complication.
Maybe there's only so much they can do with the premise? They did two supervillians, they did a buddy who turned bad at the end, and they did a supervillian / quasi-buddy. And squeezed in the nutty season 2 chick and Doakes as well. What's left?
I think the only really interesting question is do Lumen and Dexter hook up (goodness, I hope not), or does she wind up on his table? Or both?
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Footballguy
When Quinn was introduced, he was an empty vessel. I couldn't figure out what his story was or why he was there, and they've slowly been filling in the gaps, but I agree that he's been redefined a bit over time. There isn't much consistent about him. At first I was sure he was going to be the next villain, but that seems less likely now. They never really did put a fine point on his IA investigation. That just kind of stopped cold for no reason. I think it was meant to cast doubt on him personally, but they seem to be painting him now as the new Doakes which isn't really working for me. It's also weird seeing him push so hard for a relationship with Deb while at the same time pursuing Dexter so vigorously. It's like he doesn't see a disconnect there.I actually like the Lumen story line a bit (more so recently, especially after the last episode), but it reminds me of Lila but with less goth. Julia Stiles is a pretty talented actress. She's more than held her own in scenes with Michael C. Hall. We are probably seeing writers run out of ideas a bit here, but seeing Dexter help her avenge someone else's demons is an interesting twist. I have a feeling the larger story arc will be the increasing humanization of Dexter (which has happened sporadically), and this might be further evidence of that. I'm positive he and Lumen are hooking up. Seemed inevitable at the end of the last episode, but will probably happen in the next one. The image of her in the tub at least firmly planted that possibility of a Rita-replacement in peoples' heads. Rita probably ultimately failed in this series because she too dissimilar to Dexter. She became too independent and held him accountable. Lumen at least opens the possibility of someone that Dexter can co-exist with on a more fundamental level. I have no idea if that's good story telling or not, but it's certainly something that could happen.
kip stabone
Footballguy
Great analogy. Loved the Practice until it just became unbelievable. I'm still watching and enjoying Dexter but it is feeling more like I am watching Chuck and not a program with believablility and substance.
jwb
Footballguy
Ok, looking at it this way makes me kind of ok with it
I mean, it helps to have someone who's ok with your hobbies and all.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
C'mon, they had 2 unarmed EMTs for backup.------
As far as Lumen goes, I am hoping we get to see her naked at some point.
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Doctor Detroit
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Dexter talking through the entire thing made it worse. Would you really talk throughout the process of trying to locate an injured guy you've never seen who probably knows he's dead if found? In a Bruce Willis movie that guy would have swung a warehouse chain with a hook and brained Dexter. Then the guy calling the other guys to tell them that Luman is still alive when he had convinced Dexter that he had nothing to do with it? Jesus that episode had a lot of holes. The ending with Masuka explaining what happened complete with titty touch was hilarious though, that made up for some of the flaws.
corpcow
Footballguy
Lumen bugs me right now. And if the sole reason you don't mind a character is the hope you might see her naked, well, there's better #### to watch than Dexter.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I know, but since I am going to keep watching Dexter I hope I get some reward for enduring Lumen.
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Footballguy
There are many times when you have to seriously suspend reality, and this was one of those times. Dexter seemed to have no urgency at all until the very end. It was too easily wrapped in a bow. I did like the Masuka pantomime though. That was awesome. When are we going to have a Masuka-centric story? Seems like he's not getting enough focus.
Hov34
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Worst part of the episode, IMO. If they give up on letting us/Dexter have some ambiguity- it's jumped the shark. How much better would it have been if Dexter and the viewer had no idea of Lumen is telling the truth or just crazy?Speaking of Lumen- IMO, she and Dexter hook up a little, but she goes kinda crazy with the whole killing thing- making her a serial killer... so Dexter kills her... with a tear in his eye.When does the Irish nanny's leaf get turned over? I keep thinking she's going to be a pedophile dominatrix or soemthing...Doctor Detroit said:
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
maybe Batista will kill Laguerta...I'd be on board with that
jwb
Footballguy
meh... getting to be a struggle to watch.
I'm becoming convinced they have nowhere left to go with the character. He's not even a serial killer anymore, really. The thing that made Dexter really cool was he'd pick a victim, then methodically do the deed without any hitch. Now, it's every kill either must tie into the overall arc, or it has to have some "near miss" complications. No more "victim of the week" (but I guess there's only so far you can go w/ that, too.)
I'm becoming convinced they have nowhere left to go with the character. He's not even a serial killer anymore, really. The thing that made Dexter really cool was he'd pick a victim, then methodically do the deed without any hitch. Now, it's every kill either must tie into the overall arc, or it has to have some "near miss" complications. No more "victim of the week" (but I guess there's only so far you can go w/ that, too.)
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
They need to wrap it up. Dexter needs to confront the fact that he can't maintain the same life he did pre-Rita and Harrison, which is what the last two seasons have really been about. It's ultimately a choice between Harrison and the Dark Passenger. That's the only thing left for the show to resolve, and either way it's over when that happens.
No. 16
Footballguy
I've been enjoying the season so far. The episode two weeks ago was one of those where they made it too easy for Dexter but it was still enjoyable. Last night we got to see the supervillians for this season and it looks like this one will be interesting as Dexter has to take down a syndicate.
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