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Official Dez Bryant (3 Viewers)

Phenomena said:
I'm not sure there was a market for a

A) 30 year-old WR

B) who lost much of his greatest asset (size/speed combination, his separation & top speed suffered last year)

C) who is terrible at running polished routes

D) and is drop prone (5th worst drop percentage in 2017).

E) and has toxic off-field character issues.

/shrug

Jordy basically only had two of those (A&B) and only got $7M/year for two years.

Crabtree basically had one of those (A) and got $7M/year for three years.

Dez is going to be lucky to get a 1-year $7M deal from someone, imo.  Before or after free agency starts, wouldn't have mattered much.
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Still doesn't mean the didn't do him dirty. The more teams with all of their free agent money available, the better for the player hitting free agency 

 
Phenomena said:
I'm not sure there was a market for a

A) 30 year-old WR

B) who lost much of his greatest asset (size/speed combination, his separation & top speed suffered last year)

C) who is terrible at running polished routes

D) and is drop prone (5th worst drop percentage in 2017).

E) and has toxic off-field character issues.
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On-field character doesn't seem awesome, either. 

So I can't name the Cowboys #1 WR right now. It's Allen Hurns isn't it? Maybe they'll draft a *few* WRs.

 
ZWK said:
I took a look at some WR numbers from Next Gen Stats.

Combining stats over the past 2 seasons, Dez is one of only 4 WRs who both never cracked the top 20 in the the weekly fastest ballcarriers lists and also averaged less than 2.3 yards of separation per target (min 80 receptions over 2 years). Seems like pretty strong evidence for the "Dez lost a step" theory.

The other 3 are Kelvin Benjamin, Alshon Jeffery, and Michael Crabtree. Interesting that all 4 have changed teams over the past year and change.
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Seems like pretty strong evidence for the "Dak won't throw downfield" theory fact as well.  

I don't think Dez is top 10 or anything, but the guy will produce again if he can find a team whose QB is willing to even attempt to make a play.  

 
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matuski said:
Seems like pretty strong evidence for the "Dak won't throw downfield" theory fact as well.  

I don't think Dez is top 10 or anything, but the guy will produce again if he can find a team whose QB is willing to even attempt to make a play.  
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Who exactly was he supposed to throw deep to? 

 
It’s evident this is in the pathetic duo of Garrett and Linehan. No motion, static and predictable offense for what the last 5 years. 

Last year was a perfect storm of Zeke, online injuries, sophomore slump and terrible coaching and tired scheme. 

Tell me I wrong, anyone who actaully knows football and watches Dallas. 

 
ZWK said:
I took a look at some WR numbers from Next Gen Stats.

Combining stats over the past 2 seasons, Dez is one of only 4 WRs who both never cracked the top 20 in the the weekly fastest ballcarriers lists and also averaged less than 2.3 yards of separation per target (min 80 receptions over 2 years). Seems like pretty strong evidence for the "Dez lost a step" theory.

The other 3 are Kelvin Benjamin, Alshon Jeffery, and Michael Crabtree. Interesting that all 4 have changed teams over the past year and change.
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They along with Dez are the type of players that don't win with speed or quickness or even by gaining separation. They win by using their physical size to catch contested passes Kelvin, Alshon and Dez are go up and get it type WR. Crabtree is a bit of the odd man out although the he lacks in height/weight, he makes up for with insanely long arms. 

 
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Bankerguy said:
It’s evident this is in the pathetic duo of Garrett and Linehan. No motion, static and predictable offense for what the last 5 years. 

Last year was a perfect storm of Zeke, online injuries, sophomore slump and terrible coaching and tired scheme. 

Tell me I wrong, anyone who actaully knows football and watches Dallas. 
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Last year Doug Free retired, Leary left via free agency, we moved a guard (Collins) to RT. You’re talking 3/5ths of the Oline. That seriously compromised the olines cohesion. Running the ball was ok but the pass pro was atrocious. Then Tyron Smith was hurt early on and then missed time. See the Atlanta game where Dak was sacked 8 times.

Dak is a disciplined QB who can read defense to a fault.  He will go to where his reads tell him and isn’t great at improvising yet in his second season.

Bryant can’t read a D so he is never where he was supposed to be, especially when teams blitzed. 

Defenses knew this so they covered the 85 y/o Witten and the 4 foot Beasley, leaving Dez as the proper read. Unfortunately even if Dez was where he was supposed to be, he ran lazy routes, was covered or out of his game because dudes could get him to fly off the handle easily. On the rare occasion Dez was open and in position, it’s a crap shoot if he even catches the ball.

Now I do agree that things were too vanilla last year from a playcalling standpoint. But vanilla or not, Bryant didn’t help and both he and Terrance “The Body Catcher” Williams were responsible for at least 8 of Daks interceptions. 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Last year Doug Free retired, Leary left via free agency, we moved a guard (Collins) to RT. You’re talking 3/5ths of the Oline. That seriously compromised the olines cohesion. Running the ball was ok but the pass pro was atrocious. Then Tyron Smith was hurt early on and then missed time. See the Atlanta game where Dak was sacked 8 times.

Dak is a disciplined QB who can read defense to a fault.  He will go to where his reads tell him and isn’t great at improvising yet in his second season.

Bryant can’t read a D so he is never where he was supposed to be, especially when teams blitzed. 

Defenses knew this so they covered the 85 y/o Witten and the 4 foot Beasley, leaving Dez as the proper read. Unfortunately even if Dez was where he was supposed to be, he ran lazy routes, was covered or out of his game because dudes could get him to fly off the handle easily. On the rare occasion Dez was open and in position, it’s a crap shoot if he even catches the ball.

Now I do agree that things were too vanilla last year from a playcalling standpoint. But vanilla or not, Bryant didn’t help and both he and Terrance “The Body Catcher” Williams were responsible for at least 8 of Daks interceptions. 
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Aside from paragraph one I disagree with almost all of what you wrote. 

You think it was ALL Dez and give our coaching staff a pass?  I gotta find that Dez video on you tube. 

 
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Once I heard the news I offered Cam Meredith and a 4th for Dez.  Not sure if it's close or not, but I believe Dez will land somewhere solid/spectacular and be his old self with a QB who will get him the ball.  

 
Zyphros said:
Once I heard the news I offered Cam Meredith and a 4th for Dez.  Not sure if it's close or not, but I believe Dez will land somewhere solid/spectacular and be his old self with a QB who will get him the ball.  
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As a dez owner, i’d counter with a 2nd or 3rd but probably end up taking the deal. Not counting on him being productive so get what I can. 

I don’t get it- if hes lost a step as indicated why would anyone pay him? I could see a 1 yr deal for a few million but what’s he going to want? Who wants to add him to your locker room/sideline? Have fun on the Jets dez......

 
Bankerguy said:
Aside from paragraph one I disagree with almost all of what you wrote. 

You think it was ALL Dez and give our coaching staff a pass?  I gotta find that Dez video on you tube. 
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I don’t give the coaching staff a pass at all. You and I have covered that. I’m OK with Garrett, not so much with Linehan. This year will be telling.

I’m the worlds biggest Dak fan but I’m starting to be concerned with his offseason activities. There’s a video out there of him holding what looks like a black n mild and another on a cruise ship with a bunch of gold diggers. I’m not sure how a guy who lost his mom to cancer can ever be around smoke much less smoke himself. The cruise ship thing is probably fine and I’m just old.

You add the couple of videos we actually see and all the commercials he did and I’m starting to worry that he’s not focused enough. 

In my life there are 5 athletes that I’ve held on a pedestal; Joe Montana, Patrick Ewing, Emmitt Smith, Kobe Bryant and Dak Prescott. 

Sometime around the middle of Kobe’s career I realized that you can’t idolize these guys and they’re just other dudes but I’d be lying if I didn’t fall head over heels (in a sports fan sense,) with Dak. By all accounts he’s a great person, hard worker and a leader. A throwback in a new world of look at me guys, he says the right things and does the right things. I can live with him not living up to expectations. I’d be heartbroken if he’s a fake and his character is all BS. 

 
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The Cardinals, Ravens, Bills, and Packers have shown interest in free agent Dez Bryant.

Green Bay please.

For the love of god not Buffalo.

 
Watching the replay of the Dallas vs GB 2016 playoff game.  Dez Bryant sure looked fine in this game.  Over 100 yards and doing damage all game long. 

9 recpt, 132 yards, 2 TD's.

So 1 year later he is done ?

 
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Dez said:
Watching the replay of the Dallas vs GB 2016 playoff game.  Dez Bryant sure looked fine in this game.  Over 100 yards and doing damage all game long. 

9 recpt, 132 yards, 2 TD's.

So 1 year later he is done ?
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Done?  No.

Worse?  Yes.  

When you get near 30 you have to work hard to just stay where you are.  When you are injured and can't work out nearly as much, you decline.  Simple physiology.

Plus he doesn't strike me as one of the "1st guy in last guy out" types.

 
Watch him go to Baltimore and continue the old/busted streak they have going. I mean, literally every one of their WRs falls into one of those 2 categories. Dez would fit right in 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Who exactly was he supposed to throw deep to? 
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Anyone.

At all. 

I have no idea if it is a stat or not, but holy hell the guy never threw past 15 yards.  Maybe once a game?  Maybe?

I imagine it is tough to get separation when the DBs know you can't/won't go anywhere.

 
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Dak Prescott - crazy combination of facts here.

FOURTH most accurate beyond 20 yards.

TWENTY SEVENTH in pass attempts beyond 20 yards.

What the hell.

 
Dez said:
Watching the replay of the Dallas vs GB 2016 playoff game.  Dez Bryant sure looked fine in this game.  Over 100 yards and doing damage all game long. 

9 recpt, 132 yards, 2 TD's.

So 1 year later he is done ?
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Check out how bad GB's pass defense has been.  It's brutal.  Anyone could line up and thrash them.   

 
matuski said:
Dak Prescott - crazy combination of facts here.

FOURTH most accurate beyond 20 yards.

TWENTY SEVENTH in pass attempts beyond 20 yards.

What the hell.
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Makes total sense to me... QBs that don't take many shots downfield probably only do so when the change for success is high.

 
Dez said:
Watching the replay of the Dallas vs GB 2016 playoff game.  Dez Bryant sure looked fine in this game.  Over 100 yards and doing damage all game long. 

9 recpt, 132 yards, 2 TD's.

So 1 year later he is done ?
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He was great in 2016. The fantasy numbers weren't there, but his on field play was as good as ever, he simply wasn't used as much as they were content to pound Zeke to win most games. He also missed 3 games and was very limited in a few others. When he has healthy in 2016, he was great. 

People seem to really want to jump to conclusions that a guy is done after 1 down year. Whether it be Dez now, Brady a few years ago, Moss in Oakland, Marshall in Chicago, etc. etc.

Its still entirely within the realm of possibility that Dez is a top-10 NFL WR. 

 
travdogg said:
He was great in 2016. The fantasy numbers weren't there, but his on field play was as good as ever, he simply wasn't used as much as they were content to pound Zeke to win most games. He also missed 3 games and was very limited in a few others. When he has healthy in 2016, he was great. 

People seem to really want to jump to conclusions that a guy is done after 1 down year. Whether it be Dez now, Brady a few years ago, Moss in Oakland, Marshall in Chicago, etc. etc.

Its still entirely within the realm of possibility that Dez is a top-10 NFL WR. 
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:no:  

It is 3 down years.  2014 was the last time he had double digit scores or 1,000 yards. 

Even if one wants to blame of his struggles in 2016 on having a rookie QB (who managed to have a great rookie year despite Dez underperforming), his drop-off in the games he played in 2015 was severe.  

 
Ghost Rider said:
:no:  

It is 3 down years.  2014 was the last time he had double digit scores or 1,000 yards. 

Even if one wants to blame of his struggles in 2016 on having a rookie QB (who managed to have a great rookie year despite Dez underperforming), his drop-off in the games he played in 2015 was severe.  
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 1,000 yards and 10+ TD's aren't relevant. Those only matter in fantasy. He was as good in 2016 as he ever was. Whenever he was healthy, and needed, he was great. This Dez under performed in 2016 narrative is false to anyone who watched the games. He simply was used as more of a decoy, while the offense ran through Elliott. Dez was better in 2016 than 2013 in my opinion, its just his stats weren't, because the offense was different, and he was used differently.

2015 had Weeden and Cassel at QB, which makes Prescott look like Brees by comparison. Dez seemed to care a little less that year, and I'll admit the tape wasn't as good, but I don't think it had anything to do with a decline of skills. I think even Dez himself would admit he wasn't really all there in 2015, as the entire team seemed to throw in the towel a bit when Romo went down.

Is it possible Dez is hitting a decline phase? Sure, but its just as possible, in my opinion more so, he's not, and a change of scenery will prove that. 

 
The Cardinals, Ravens, Bills, and Packers have shown interest in free agent Dez Bryant.

All four teams Schefter lists have adequate cap space to sign Bryant. The Bills would be an interesting landing spot if only because Bryant would immediately become the focal point of a passing game that saw LeSean McCoy lead the team in both targets and receptions from the backfield last season. Joining the Packers sans Jordy Nelson would still give Bryant the best fantasy outlook for 2018.

Related: Cardinals, Ravens, Bills, Packers

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Apr 14 - 12:47 PM
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Binky The Doormat said:
Bobby Belt‏ @BobbyBeltTX

Dez Bryant just followed Will Fuller, JJ Watt, DeAndre Hopkins, and DeShaun Watson on Instagram.

Big slot Dez in HOU?
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Well, if its important to him to stick it to Dallas, Houston makes a lot of sense. He'll still be in the same market, and if the Texans are good, and Dallas isn't, you'll hear about it on ESPN etc. every day.

 
travdogg said:
 1,000 yards and 10+ TD's aren't relevant. Those only matter in fantasy. He was as good in 2016 as he ever was. Whenever he was healthy, and needed, he was great. This Dez under performed in 2016 narrative is false to anyone who watched the games. He simply was used as more of a decoy, while the offense ran through Elliott. Dez was better in 2016 than 2013 in my opinion, its just his stats weren't, because the offense was different, and he was used differently.

2015 had Weeden and Cassel at QB, which makes Prescott look like Brees by comparison. Dez seemed to care a little less that year, and I'll admit the tape wasn't as good, but I don't think it had anything to do with a decline of skills. I think even Dez himself would admit he wasn't really all there in 2015, as the entire team seemed to throw in the towel a bit when Romo went down.

Is it possible Dez is hitting a decline phase? Sure, but its just as possible, in my opinion more so, he's not, and a change of scenery will prove that. 
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Where is the part that explains why he drops everything? 

 
matuski said:
Dak explains a lot right now.

But I mean he dropped 6 balls.. similar catch % as the likes of TY Hilton, AJ Green, Mike Evans, etc.  :shrug:
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Dez has one of the worst drop rates over the last three years at 12.28%. (105 target minimum). He actually dropped 12 catchable passes last season which lead the league.

His concentration is horrible.

Tex

 
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