Chaz McNulty
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It's pretty pathetic. That room needs more grownups.https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1502059893943152646?t=ftKEuK0qxh6xt8cCNPMKPA&s=19
This is what Fox News is putting on TV?
That's just horrible
It's pretty pathetic. That room needs more grownups.https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1502059893943152646?t=ftKEuK0qxh6xt8cCNPMKPA&s=19
This is what Fox News is putting on TV?
That's just horrible
I more or less agree with you on Tic Tok, but I firmly belive that Putin has been pulling Facebook's strings for over a decade.China does not have TikTok in their country. The algorithm specifically promotes the worst possibly behavior for views to destabilize the west. Facebook is America's version for western people. Same thing.
I don't think Putin has that kind of pull. He can't stop the west from shutting everything off and is having to bow down to Xi to keep things going.I more or less agree with you on Tic Tok, but I'm firmly belive that Putin has been pulling Facebook's strings for over a decade.
Putin has a very particular set of skills - murder, propaganda, and blackmail. I think heI don't think Putin has that kind of pull. He can't stop the west from shutting everything off and is having to bow down to Xi to keep things going.
This article is terrifying. I like and trust Abramson, but what he sets forth there is stuff I do not want to think about. I hope fervently that he is wrong or at least overstating the current threats. Thanks for posting.Maggot Brain said:The Ten Hardest Truths About the War in Europe by Seth Abramson
tl;dr would be an understatement for this, but well worth the time. IMO, he seems to understand nuance somewhat better than most independent reporters.
I'll list the 10 points he discusses below so those uninterested in the entire piece can pick and choose from items of particular interest.
Disclaimer: He slams Trump pretty hard but not from a left/right viewpoint, but due to his history of corruption. He also doesn't play nice with Biden, so hopefully all you gents/gals can attempt to give it an unbiased read.
Agreed. I hope he is wrong on a lot of that -- this part in #9 struck me; hard to believeThis article is terrifying. I like and trust Abramson, but what he sets forth there is stuff I do not want to think about. I hope fervently that he is wrong or at least overstating the current threats. Thanks for posting.
Fox did this with Obama. One of the worst scandals in our nation's history. Apparently we're still paying the price this atrocity.disfavorably compare Joe Biden’s alleged “weakness” psychologically and physically with Putin’s supposed manliness
This is a really good article. Everyone should read it.Maggot Brain said:The Ten Hardest Truths About the War in Europe by Seth Abramson
tl;dr would be an understatement for this, but well worth the time. IMO, he seems to understand nuance somewhat better than most independent reporters.
I'll list the 10 points he discusses below so those uninterested in the entire piece can pick and choose from items of particular interest.
Disclaimer: He slams Trump pretty hard but not from a left/right viewpoint, but due to his history of corruption. He also doesn't play nice with Biden, so hopefully all you gents/gals can attempt to give it an unbiased read.
Dude, you gotta warn people before you share stuff like that.Fox did this with Obama. One of the worst scandals in our nation's history. Apparently we're still paying the price this atrocity.
Huh. 2020 POTUS election fraud rings a bell...“They create a situation where they go to a populist audience, push out talking points, get the audience primed and make it true later.”
There must be additional context omitted because by itself that makes zero sense.Trump discussed the conflict during an appearance on Fox News host Jeanine Pirro's radio show Sunday. He said he believes Putin's ultimate goal is to eventually rebuild the Soviet Union, and he went on to explain what he believes to be Putin's mindset.
"You say, what's the purpose of this? They had a country. You could see it was a country where there was a lot of love and we're doing it because, you know, somebody wants to make his country larger or he wants to put it back the way it was when actually it didn't work very well," Trump said.
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If you look at through a filter where someone speaks/reads at an 8th grade level, I find it makes more sense.There must be additional context omitted because by itself that makes zero sense.
I will never get the far right lovefest (or tolerance) with Putin.Here is a great twitter thread on the origin of the biolabs conspiracy theory.
As always, people are dumb and believe the stupidest most ridiculous stuff
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1503434867614228480
He really didn't predict anything that is currently happening. He really just said a bunch of conspiracy theories about things that had already happened in 2014.Just a reminder that conspiracy theorists are just ahead of the curve.
Video: David Icke 2014 Explaining how WW3 will go down
I'm familiar with David Icke. He's basically never met a conspiracy he didn't believe. He was the first person I ever knew of that revealed shape-shifting lizard people are waging a psionic war against humanity, and that basically every excessively important, rich, influential person is a lizard.Just a reminder that conspiracy theorists are just ahead of the curve.
Video: David Icke 2014 Explaining how WW3 will go down
No I know who he is. Just pretty amazing how close he got this situation were currently in.I'm familiar with David Icke. He's basically never met a conspiracy he didn't believe. He was the first person I ever knew of that revealed shape-shifting lizard people are waging a psionic war against humanity, and that basically every excessively important, rich, influential person is a lizard.
I own several of his books and really enjoyed reading them until I got to those parts.
I'm not bagging on you or your post, just giving some background on the guy.
And hey, whadoiknow, maybe he's right about the lizards. He is quite good at making compelling cases; his theory on the royal family being responsible for the death of Princess Di seemed pretty plausible to me 20 years ago.
Other than Ukraine bombing their own country with Russian insurgents in it, what else was happening thats similar to today? He was pretty spot on to what's happening.He really didn't predict anything that is currently happening. He really just said a bunch of conspiracy theories about things that had already happened in 2014.
I'm not quite sure what you are asking.Other than Ukraine bombing their own country with Russian insurgents in it, what else was happening thats similar to today? He was pretty spot on to what's happening.
Oh, you gotta turn on your far-right TV, guy.None of that has happened.
I don't seem to have those channels. Must be the big tech censorship. Come to think of it, I don't seem to have any channels.Oh, you gotta turn on your far-right TV, guy.
FOX and the lower reaches of NEWMAX have already tired of discussing the horrors of Russia's invasion, and people digging up old sound bites of Trump giving Putin a rubdown, so they have pivoted to the US has been poking at Russia, and dragged poor Ukraine into this.
It's disgusting.
There isn’t an explanation on Earth that would satisfy me, really. They put one man above doing the right thing, and thankfully, everyone else chose to actually do the right thing.Anyone want to explain this vote?
The House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday to suspend normal trade relations with both Russia and Belarus amid the war in Ukraine.
There were 8 No votes.
Wow…It’s pretty insane to see where our far right finds themselves these days. Playing footsie with fascists…Anyone want to explain this vote?
The House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday to suspend normal trade relations with both Russia and Belarus amid the war in Ukraine.
There were 8 No votes.
How many of these people (using that term very loosely) are up for re-election? And please tell me they will get challenged within the party.Wow…It’s pretty insane to see where our far right finds themselves these days. Playing footsie with fascists…
That's crazy. I know that it must be hard to shed the 'Russia good' and Ukraine bad' from the Trump years, but come on. I really don't know why the extreme right and Q-Anon is clinging to Putin.Anyone want to explain this vote?
The House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday to suspend normal trade relations with both Russia and Belarus amid the war in Ukraine.
There were 8 No votes.
Maybe because all of these actions are leading to a full scale war. No one seems to care there. They think little things like cutting off a country's economy and creating a no fly zone are going to end the war after a decades worth of actions that got us to this point.That's crazy. I know that it must be hard to shed the 'Russia good' and Ukraine bad' from the Trump years, but come on. I really don't know why the extreme right and Q-Anon is clinging to Putin.
You are in the we have done too much camp?Maybe because all of these actions are leading to a full scale war. No one seems to care there. They think little things like cutting off. Country's economy and creating a no fly zone are going to end the war after a decades worth of actions that got us to this point.
There are too many people that jumped from the "unvaccinated aren't allowed in society" to "We must go to war with Russia" without missing a beat. Next thing drops and they line up like a it's a new iphone.
All of them are up for re-election every two years.How many of these people (using that term very loosely) are up for re-election? And please tell me they will get challenged within the party.
I'm in the "don't drag us into a war our politicians created to make more money" camp.You are in the we have done too much camp?
That’s Biden’s stance.I'm in the "don't drag us into a war our politicians created to make more money" camp.
But there isn't a no fly zone and Russia was well aware that they would face sanctions if they invaded a sovereign country. I really don't understand your point. Do you believe that the world should just stand back and let Russia go on a European tour? Maybe a harshly worded letter?Maybe because all of these actions are leading to a full scale war. No one seems to care there. They think little things like cutting off a country's economy and creating a no fly zone are going to end the war after a decades worth of actions that got us to this point.
There are too many people that jumped from the "unvaccinated aren't allowed in society" to "We must go to war with Russia" without missing a beat. Next thing drops and they line up like a it's a new iphone.
He has repeatedly said there will be no US soldiers sent there, they won’t support a no fly zone, keeping NATO nations from sending planes (countries that are taking in millions of refugees and are much more impacted by this than we are).No. It absolutely is not.
He says a lot of things. Many of which end up being the opposite not very long after. He says no fly zone and no American troops but he's sending $14b in aid to help train and equip Ukrainians. I don't expect that to be the end of it.He has repeatedly said there will be no US soldiers sent there, they won’t support a no fly zone, keeping NATO nations from sending planes (countries that are taking in millions of refugees and are much more impacted by this than we are).
Are the economic sanctions and organizing nations to isolate Russia too strong of actions on are part?
you are right, but... what virtues are they signaling, and who are they signaling to?All of them are up for re-election every two years.
Those 8 were just virtue signaling to the Trump/MAGA base. It's frankly beyond getting worked up about. This is what those 8 do, there are a few others who sometimes come along as well depending on the vote at hand.
Will they be challenged within the party? Perhaps. Examine their districts and that will give a sense of how "worried" they should be (hint: they have nothing to worry about).
So are you saying no aid to Ukraine, no sanctions on Russia, allow them to do their business, and agree with the vote of these 8 in the House?He says a lot of things. Many of which end up being the opposite not very long after. He says no fly zone and no American troops but he's sending $14b in aid to help train and equip Ukrainians. I don't expect that to be the end of it.
Luckily, Congress gets re-elected every two years. Unluckily, their constituents in these hard right areas might like this message…How many of these people (using that term very loosely) are up for re-election? And please tell me they will get challenged within the party.
It kind of goes with the job.Biden will be criticized by the right no matter what he does or does not do. Period.
We probably could have done something like this when the civil war had broken out. Right or wrong, the administration at the time didn't seem willing to fully commit to another nation building exercise in the middle east. Now this would basically mean an invasion and we'd still have to consider the possibility that Russia uses extreme methods to keep Assad in power.More thinking. Crazy talk I'm sure, but can we turn some attention towards Syria right now? I'm fixated on the notion that Russia cannot walk and chew gum right now (and you know China is too). I see many needle-threading opportunities.
EDIT: Assad, let's go check out your new penthouse.
- Provide the relief that Syrian citizens so desperatley need and help build diplomatic bridges
- America, #### yeah
- Putin regime, #### you
In before "where were you 2016-2020 ?"First the right complained that Biden's sanctions weren't harsh enough. Then the complaint was that we were still buying Russian oil. Then when we stopped buying the oil, the complaint was that it was making our gas prices go up. Then they complained that Biden was holding up the planes Poland wanted to send.
Now we're doing too much and causing a global war.
Lesson learned - Biden will be criticized by the right no matter what he does or does not do. Period.
Wow…It’s pretty insane to see where our far right finds themselves these days. Playing footsie with fascists…
This is not a surprise. But at least they aren't vocal about it yet.A poll result in Canada showing that Anti-Vaxers are much more likely to back Russia and Putin. Pretty much confirming what we already know that Russia has been pushing the anti-vax propaganda the last few years. Qanon, some GOPers, Trucker nonsense, etc all stem from the same source: The Kremlin.
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“While 88 per cent of vaccinated Canadians agree Russia is committing war crimes during the widely condemned invasion, 32 per cent of unvaccinated people do.”