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"Official" Donald Trump for President: Great Wall of Mexico (1 Viewer)

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dfsguy said:
Her name isn't in the article, is it?
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Not that I saw.  Not yet.  I just hope the process does not start to gain the momentum it sometimes does, swallowing her and digesting her thoughtlessly as the beast feeds on.  Still, I am not one to avoid acknowledging self-evident points.  I completely agree with you, her name is not in the article. 

 
cap'n grunge said:
Legal citizens commit these type of crimes too. We are going to have a nice big open country if we deport all legal citizens as well based on this logic.
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You can't do anything about your own citizens committing crimes other than putting them in prison when they do. The nice thing about illegals is you can deport them before they commit the crime! GET EM OUT!

 
https://news.azpm.org/p/state-and-local/2016/3/28/84809-border-patrol-union-head-testimony-cites-breach-in-security/

Brandon Judd, the head of the National Border said that an email from an agent in Arizona cited a 10-mile remote stretch of the border where smugglers cut the fence and drove two trucks through. Cameras caught the activity, but agents weren’t close enough to investigate.

"The scariest part is that we don’t know what was in those vehicles,” Judd said.

the number of illegal border crossings through Mexico from Pakistan is expected to more than triple this year.

BUILD THE WALL!

 
I think I am leaning towards Trump now that the media is obviously working against him. At least he is not bought off and he is scaring the crap out of the Republican Machine because they cannot control him. Who knows maybe this would be better than the same old crap the last 20 years. 

 
pack100 said:
I think I am leaning towards Trump now that the media is obviously working against him. At least he is not bought off and he is scaring the crap out of the Republican Machine because they cannot control him. Who knows maybe this would be better than the same old crap the last 20 years. 
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I agree with you, but this is mostly a liberal forum so expect ten angry responses soon as to why you shouldn't vote Trump. It is going to be glorious.

 
As I had previously predicted. You would think I was the Trump insider, since my predictions are so accurate:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-trump-insider-donald-doesn-191100209.html

“He doesn't want the White House. He just wants to be able to say that he could have run the White House. He’s achieved that already and then some. If there is any question, take it from someone who was recruited to help the candidate succeed, and initially very much wanted him to do so.”

I said this months ago. My guess is that the brokered convention will allow him to claim victory, when they select someone else, he runs 3rd part and Hillary wins the Presidency. He can claim that they screwed it all up, he would have beat her head to head and it's all their fault. He won't have to sit in the WH strapped to the presidency for 4 years. He really doesn't care if she wins because his investments will do better with her in office.

 
lod01 said:
As I had previously predicted. You would think I was the Trump insider, since my predictions are so accurate:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-trump-insider-donald-doesn-191100209.html

“He doesn't want the White House. He just wants to be able to say that he could have run the White House. He’s achieved that already and then some. If there is any question, take it from someone who was recruited to help the candidate succeed, and initially very much wanted him to do so.”

I said this months ago. My guess is that the brokered convention will allow him to claim victory, when they select someone else, he runs 3rd part and Hillary wins the Presidency. He can claim that they screwed it all up, he would have beat her head to head and it's all their fault. He won't have to sit in the WH strapped to the presidency for 4 years. He really doesn't care if she wins because his investments will do better with her in office.
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Not to mention, can you imagine how much he'll clean up on the book tours through middle America?

It'll be like Sarah Palin on steroids.

 
lod01 said:
As I had previously predicted. You would think I was the Trump insider, since my predictions are so accurate:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-trump-insider-donald-doesn-191100209.html

“He doesn't want the White House. He just wants to be able to say that he could have run the White House. He’s achieved that already and then some. If there is any question, take it from someone who was recruited to help the candidate succeed, and initially very much wanted him to do so.”

I said this months ago. My guess is that the brokered convention will allow him to claim victory, when they select someone else, he runs 3rd part and Hillary wins the Presidency. He can claim that they screwed it all up, he would have beat her head to head and it's all their fault. He won't have to sit in the WH strapped to the presidency for 4 years. He really doesn't care if she wins because his investments will do better with her in office.
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So and so saying something doesn't make your prediction correct. I don't agree with your prediction or believe a single word that person is saying. When you're taking on massive power and want to change our country from donor (globalists) first  to Citizens (nationalist) first there is going to be a big big fight on your hands.  This is just an example of the trickery that they are trying to use to take Trump out. BLM protesters paid for by Soros was another example and Fox trying to take out the leading Republican is another. The one thing you can't do when it comes to Trump is automatically believe everything you read about him.

 
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chauncey said:
Hillary supporters sing Donald Trump a song (NSFW language)

I think I counted 23 death threats. Imagine the reaction from the hypocrites if someone made a video like this about Hillary.
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Dude it's politics, cut the babe in the woods crap. They say ####ed up things about both sides. Nothing lamer than the "what if the other side said this" schtick except perhaps the "look at this one link that has some random jackass in a Trump/Hillary shirt who is a nazi"

Drudgereport has a link last couple days titled "Hillary and her abortions" or something. 

 
dfsguy said:
https://news.azpm.org/p/state-and-local/2016/3/28/84809-border-patrol-union-head-testimony-cites-breach-in-security/

Brandon Judd, the head of the National Border said that an email from an agent in Arizona cited a 10-mile remote stretch of the border where smugglers cut the fence and drove two trucks through. Cameras caught the activity, but agents weren’t close enough to investigate.

"The scariest part is that we don’t know what was in those vehicles,” Judd said.

the number of illegal border crossings through Mexico from Pakistan is expected to more than triple this year.

BUILD THE WALL!
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Nice job cutting this out, thought nobody would read it, eh?

No terrorist activities in the U.S. have been traced specifically to people who crossed into the country illegally from Mexico.
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Also regarding the bolded, how many people from Pakistan crossed illegally last year for them to state it will triple?

 
MOP, I didn't answer your question about the Israeli wall because I thought it was rhetorical. Of course that wall doesn't work; Palestinian terrorists have simply altered their methods (Google the stabbings.) 

But in any case I'm confused by this talk of a wall on our southern border stopping terrorism anyhow. All of the 9/11 terrorists came here through Canada. Shouldn't the wall be on our northern border? 

 
dfsguy said:
before people jump on this, being charged isn't the same as being guilty. No doubt in my mind he wins this.
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True, but being innocent doesn't make either of these now-obvious lies less embarrassing:

 
Corey Lewandowski ‏@CLewandowski_ Mar 11
@MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you.
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"The accusation, which as only been made in the media and never addressed directly with the campaign, is entirely false," Hicks said in a statement to ABC News. "As one of dozens of individuals present as Mr. Trump exited the press conference I did not witness any encounter. In addition to our staff, which had no knowledge of said situation, not a single camera or reporter of more than 100 in attendance captured the alleged incident."
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Re dfsguy's comments on the last page regarding illegal immigrants: he links a story in which an illegal immigrant raped a 12 year old girl. He then calls for the deportation of all 12 million illegal immigrants ("Get 'em out!") 

i am using this as an example because it matches exactly what Donald Trump has said on the campaign trail about this subject. It is one thing to be opposed to illegal immigration. However, there are two aspects to this sort of rhetoric which distinguishes it from previous, standard opposition to illegals: 

1. The citing of extreme anecdotes (rape, murder, etc) as representative of the sort of people who comprise the majority of illegal immigrants (particulary those illegals who are of Mexican or Hispanic nationality) 

2. The extreme solution of immediate forced deportation of millions of people. 

It is these distinguishing factors that cause me to believe they represent bigotry in a very clear and ugly way. I have now read several posters in this thread make the claim that Donald Trump is not truly a bigot and I can only wonder: are you guys paying attention? 

 
dfsguy said:
before people jump on this, being charged isn't the same as being guilty. No doubt in my mind he wins this.
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They had the film when they decided to charge him. :pics:

My recommendation to Corey would be to plea and get out of Dodge before they get his texts, tweets and emails. Bullies get beat up by girls in the schoolyard, wipe the blood off, go home, cry to mommy and be better and braver when you go back to school next week. ...

...... :lol: who are we kidding, it will just get worse as Corey continues to deny, deny, deny.​
 
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Steen Jakobsen, chief economist at Danish investment bank Saxo Bank on Shillary and The Trumpster:

In a recent research note, he said the ratio between employee compensation to gross domestic product in the U.S. is the lowest in history and corporate profits are at their highest-ever point. This, he believes, is a key reason why U.S. citizens now want anything but the traditional establishment.

"Hillary Clinton cannot win the U.S. election. She is the epitome of the establishment class, of the elitist order," he said. In other words a total loser. "Trump, on the other hand, is so far away from being a politician that he represents chaos in a world of order, and this is what U.S. voters want." :thumbup:

 
The Commish said:
It's rather simple to explain, but you won't like the explanation.  He's saying these things to get elected and he doesn't believe a single one of them.  You're good with saying what's necessary to get the nomination right?  Or does that just apply to Hillary?  NOTE:  This is NOT a defense of Trump rather an explanation for his behavior.  I pointed out several months ago that I believed this was what he was doing.  Of course this doesn't make it right, but the show you're seeing doesn't mean it's anything more than a show.  You should understand this concept being a Hillary supporter.
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Not one of the Trunp supporters in this thread or elsewhere in this forum have offered the "he doesn't mean it" explanation. Instead, when they have responded to my questions about bigotry, they either attempt to avoid the issue or offer reasons as to why Trumps statements, which they agree with, are not actually bigoted. I find the reasons offered to be insufficient, but the key is that Trump's supporters generally agree with what I regard as the bigotry. That's the ugly truth which many people keep trying to deny. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
They had the film when they decided to charge him. :pics:

My recommendation to Corey would be to plea and get out of Dodge before they get his texts, tweets and emails. Bullies get beat up by girls in the schoolyard, wipe the blood off, go home, cry to mommy and be better and braver when you go back to school next week. ...

...... :lol: who are we kidding, it will just get worse as Corey continues to deny, deny, deny.​
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for you to act like that makes him definitely guilty, and there is no political factor here is very naive.

 
Can someone of the Trumpian persuasion explain how Donald can promise good "Management" and that that is the solution to many of our government's ills when his own spokeswoman is involved in a sex scandal with his top opponent which he claims is true and in which his own campaign manager has been arrested?

 
Remember, we don't have to worry about Trump's relative lack of experience in most presidential matters because he'll surely surround himself with carefully selected and intelligent people to serve as advisors. Like say for example reporter-assaulting dooshbags, who in turn will consult with their trusted stripper-biting cohorts.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Remember, we don't have to worry about Trump's relative lack of experience in most presidential matters because he'll surely surround himself with carefully selected and intelligent people to serve as advisors. Like say for example reporter-assaulting dooshbags, who in turn will consult with their trusted stripper-biting cohorts.
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In fairness, while I have never assaulted a reporter nor bitten a stripper I can see how either could happen, under the right circumstances.  On these two examples I am going to take the old "Judge not" stance.  that is not to say that I don't take your point, just that I don't find that one point to be a knock out, a scoring punch sure, but not a knock out blow.

 
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timschochet said:
The fact that you ask such a question indicates to me that I doubt I could explain my answer to you in any way you can accept. But let me put it very simply and bluntly: 300 years of a history of slavery, Jim Crow, and general treatment  makes it OK for black voters to vote as a bloc, and for politicians to attempt to appeal to that bloc, and none of this is racism. White identity politics is, however, racism. 
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So you are justifying identity politics and reverse discrimination because of slavery, which ended 153 years ago, and Jim Crow, which ended 51 years ago (for the most part).  And "general treatment"... A little nondescript don't you think?  There's a growing number of people in this country who believe that equal opportunity exists for people of color.  In some cases they are clearly advantaged, particularly with regard to college admissions and white color jobs.  There was a time and place for affirmative action and identity politics.  They time has passed.  We are all just Americans now, and no one should be given preferential treatment or be discriminated against.

 
timschochet said:
Not one of the Trunp supporters in this thread or elsewhere in this forum have offered the "he doesn't mean it" explanation. Instead, when they have responded to my questions about bigotry, they either attempt to avoid the issue or offer reasons as to why Trumps statements, which they agree with, are not actually bigoted. I find the reasons offered to be insufficient, but the key is that Trump's supporters generally agree with what I regard as the bigotry. That's the ugly truth which many people keep trying to deny. 
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Chauncey says the media distorts what Trump says and you need to listen to an entire speech because then it's not so bad. HTH

 
dfsguy said:
for you to act like that makes him definitely guilty, and there is no political factor here is very naive.
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DFS, follow up question if you don't know anything about Jupiter FL and what kind of politics go on there (and I think I know as I used to have a friend from there, but like I said I'm happy to learn something...).

My question is do you think it is appropriate for a 41 year old with Lewandowski's build to grab a 28 year old woman of Fields' build like he did? Let's leave aside for the moment that he's not security and that she is a reporter, if you saw a man yank a girl on the street like that and leave a bruise what would you think? Ok?

 
CNN saying the law in Florida says simple battery is merely unwanted touching. No physical injury needs to occur. A very low threshold and it sounds like they have video. Open and shut.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In fairness, while I have never assaulted a reporter nor bitten a stripper I can see how either could happen, under the right circumstances.  On thee two examples I am going to take the old "Judge not" stance.  that is not to say that I don't take your point, just that I don't find that one point to be a knock out, a scoring punch sure, but not a knock out blow.
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This is a fair point. We should not allow this isolated incident to cloud the otherwise sterling reputation of a respectful and respected man like Corey Lewandowski.

Regarding the lawyer: I can indeed imagine the circumstances in which a stripper-biting in south Florida in the 1990s could happen. I believe the late Rick James said it best ...

 
Higgs said:
So you are justifying identity politics and reverse discrimination because of slavery, which ended 153 years ago, and Jim Crow, which ended 51 years ago (for the most part).  And "general treatment"... A little nondescript don't you think?  There's a growing number of people in this country who believe that equal opportunity exists for people of color.  In some cases they are clearly advantaged, particularly with regard to college admissions and white color jobs.  There was a time and place for affirmative action and identity politics.  They time has passed.  We are all just Americans now, and no one should be given preferential treatment or be discriminated against
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