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***Official*** Dwayne Washington, RB, DET (2 Viewers)
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Morton Muffley
Footballguy
Ok, I am no expert but I do seem to have a pretty good eye for spotting RB talent based solely on watching college highlight reels. Here's what I see:
Anyway, i picked him up this week and while I am not starting him I am hoping he performs well because I want to move him (in a package) to the soon to be 0-3 Kenneth Dixon owner because Dixon has a tape I have fallen in love with.
As always, just my 2 cents.
- fast, really fast
- not a lot of wiggle. Wiggle is important to me as I believe this greatly enables inside running where gaps are small
- good cutback ability, but may rely on it a bit too much as he seems to overdo this even when a cutback lane isn't there
- when he isn't making sharp cutbacks his edge turns tend to be a bit wide/rounded. Someone in this thread said he seems to run like WR on an end around and I would agree with this assessment
- runs a bit too high for my liking. He is tall for a RB so this isn't surprising and even with coaching gonna be tough to get him running with lower pad level
- good receiver
Anyway, i picked him up this week and while I am not starting him I am hoping he performs well because I want to move him (in a package) to the soon to be 0-3 Kenneth Dixon owner because Dixon has a tape I have fallen in love with.
As always, just my 2 cents.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Just to add - I really expected Travis Swanson to be the weak link on the Lions O-line this season. He was ranked 33rd by PFF last season; this year he's fifth. Didn't even allow a pressure last week.
Historically the Lions under Austin have contained Rodgers and the WRs. AR's offense has average 20 PPG since Terryl took over as DC and no WR has topped 100 yards since 2013. But they haven't stopped anyone this year and they're pretty beat up this week. If they're going to win - and I'd put that likelihood at no more than 20% - it will be a 31-27 type shootout.
That's a game script that probably favors Theo. But it would be awesome if they got Swagger involved, he's got a chance to prove he's a playmaker. Detroit desperately needs big plays today.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
So not more than 5 minutes ago RotoWorld had posted a headline saying Abdullah was expected back by Week 10 and now that post is gone and they are NOW saying the Lions think Abdullah is done for the year. Geezuz.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
wormburner
Footballguy
Geez, isn't there already enough to sift through on Sunday mornings?
/sorry for adding to the mess.
/sorry for adding to the mess.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Well I know a lot of people are hopping on Orleans, so you're probably fine considering him. I think they'll lean heavily on Vereen, but I could be wrong.
Also, Week 3 lineup decision between a couple third stringers....you gotta admit that is pretty funny. Typifies how crazy our hobby is sometimes.
Personally I think if you're going with a WTH decision like that, go with the guy with more upside. Dwayne can score from anywhere on the field. Darkwa is a JAG, but hey, I guess some people see something in him I don't. GL GB
VaTerp
Footballguy
It is funny.
In a league where I don't have Washington I'm now deciding whether or not to play Josh Ferguson or drop him and play Darkwa. I'm staring at my laptop trying to decide as we speak. In week friggin 3. These are my choices....
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Eerie. I dropped ferguson this morning for darkwa which is why I'm now considering darkwa vs Washington.It is funny.
In a league where I don't have Washington I'm now deciding whether or not to play Josh Ferguson or drop him and play Darkwa. I'm staring at my laptop trying to decide as we speak. In week friggin 3. These are my choices....
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well, yes, I do see the absurdity of this situation, but largely me ####### up some keeper decisions, but anyway...
i do see Washington as the better athlete obviously. But I think he's still a little more risky in terms of usage. I feel like these two guys are basically in similar situations: they are the backup/tandem to a pretty well-trusted vet whose strength is in the pass game. I think that I am betting that the lions like Riddick a little more and might give him a chance to be more of a full-time back, combined with the fact that darkwa has more experience meaning that nyg would be more likely to lean on him and/or make a mistake. But it is certainly a very close call in my mind. I think Washington has the higher ceiling but darkwa has the higher floor.
also darkwa has the better matchup, at least on paper.
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Started Theo, he currently has 7 touches for -1 yards. 5 carries for -10 hahahaha
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Reps are coming for the Dwayne Train unless the score/game plan to run gets away from the Lions. Riddick is what he is, not a between the tackles banger. I have to think Washington will get some reps to show what he's got. If he looks good, that's more on Riddick ineffectiveness in pure rushing situations.
Morton Muffley
Footballguy
Washington looks legit against a pretty good run d. Conversely ridding looks really really bad. Stats for ridding (6 carries for -11 yards) don't even describe how bad he looks running between the tackles (no power, no vision, no balls to jam it up in there).VaTerp said:
VaTerp
Footballguy
They're down 21. Of course Riddick is going to play most of the 2nd half.
That's why I said game script was gonna work agaisnt him today.
Rewards are coming. He just needs to keep improving and hold onto the ball.
VaTerp
Footballguy
And a lot of it is out of shotgun.
Looky looky....
Damn terrible blocking on goaline play.
This game shouldnt change anyone's outlook. Rewards are coming.
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Weebs210
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mquinnjr
Footballguy
Riddick looked better on the first drive of 2H between the tackles, seems like Packers playing a bit off the line. Dwayne did get a GL carry on the 1 on 3rd and Goal and was stuffed. Hard to say how the rest of the game will play out, but a TD to get within 2TD's has to help get a chance to see more Dwayne.
VaTerp
Footballguy
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Bump said quotes? I'm sure someone advocated this, but that's ACF stuff anyways. I feel like the general sense in here was get him on your roster, but not get him in your lineup for Week 3. Definitely a need to see more situation.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Yeah that's ludicrous. He's had some decent rushes today and I think you're neutral/optimistic based on what we've seen so far. This is definitely a committee for the time being until Dwayne shows he can outplay Riddick in all aspects, which he hasn't while looking decent on some carries.
wormburner
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
What was very telling was how ineffective Riddick was running the ball.
Washington did exactly how I thought he would minus one optimistic td. I am excited for the rest of the season with him
Washington did exactly how I thought he would minus one optimistic td. I am excited for the rest of the season with him
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Banger
Footballguy
Exactly how I hoped it would work out. Looked much better side by side and allowed them to get back in the game. Awful game script for Washington being down so much so early but he ran really well vs a good run defense on the road. It's a marathon, not a sprint...Washingtons the best RB on this team now.Banger said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Washington looked great... Was clearly the best back. Zenner got nothing, Riddick got nothing on the ground
Banger
Footballguy
I don't know. Hard to commit to run when you're down 21-0 before you break a sweat. They'll watch the film and see that Washington was far better. They'll scheme for him to get the ball more and increase his touches.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Just like we thought before the season, there isn't anyone on the Lions team you can start with any confidence at RB. Theo R. Is a back who is good as a best ball pick late in the draft as he will have a few good games but hard to predict when, certainly not when you need him. Stafford will be passing a lot this season and obviously Marvin Jones not Tate is their No 1., which was becoming clear in preseason.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Next week Dwayne will have an even larger role. Tape doesn't lie.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Washington was a dud for whoever started him. You can say he looked better all you want but Riddick had 7 receptions.
Riddick 50-75 total yds+ 4-6 rec a week
Washington 10/50 and a nice ypc but never a real commitment from the Lions to run the ball.
Which RB is more valuable?
Riddick 50-75 total yds+ 4-6 rec a week
Washington 10/50 and a nice ypc but never a real commitment from the Lions to run the ball.
Which RB is more valuable?
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Theo obviously, but I don't think they can continue to try and pound Theo inside. That isn't his game. They almost have to use use Washington more.
Banger
Footballguy
Today when they were down down by 30 or the rest of the year? If they go down20+ each game from here on out I agree that Riddick will likely out produce him.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm just saying that TODAY he was a dud, less than 40 yds. It's obvious he is their best runner but I'm not sure what 10-12 carries in this offense is gonna yield...
-MOP just remembered the Lions have a pretty soft schedule, good hold and I didn't actually start him in any leagues but some were hyping as a 2 TD guy today, that was silly.
Well, I was half-right. Turns out he didn't need to keep throwing so much after scoring 4 TDs in the first 2:25 of the game.
He has the talent but needs a better opportunity to succeed. He's one step closer to that opportunity being #2 but he's just another high upside handcuff waiting for A. his #1 to go down or B. the coaches believe that he's worthy of being elevated to a bigger share or RBBC or even being the #1.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
From Rotoworld:
Dwayne Washington rushed 10 times for 38 yards and caught his only target for -3 yards Week 3 against the Packers.
The final line does not look great, but Washington sparked a struggling running game once he was finally given a chance in the first half and looked like a dynamic weapon on the ground. He is clearly a much better option on early downs than Theo Riddick, and he should start to see more work moving forward. He will be a FLEX option in a great matchup next week against the Bears. Sep 25 - 5:01 PM
Dwayne Washington rushed 10 times for 38 yards and caught his only target for -3 yards Week 3 against the Packers.
The final line does not look great, but Washington sparked a struggling running game once he was finally given a chance in the first half and looked like a dynamic weapon on the ground. He is clearly a much better option on early downs than Theo Riddick, and he should start to see more work moving forward. He will be a FLEX option in a great matchup next week against the Bears. Sep 25 - 5:01 PM
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