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Probably ordering a new mobo cpu and gpu. Please advise.
I'd probably be looking into the Core i5 (value) or i7 (performance) Sandybridge CPUs, and the mobo to match. I don't know what the brand to buy these days is, but I've been partial to ASUS in the past, read good reviews about ASRock and Gigabyte recently and would expect that baring seriously flaws in implementations, most quality mobos will perform about the same. Maybe Cow has an opinion on Mobos?As for GPU, the Radeon 6870 seems to still be a very good value to speed choice, with the Radeon 6970 still being the highend card. If you prefer nVidia, then the GTX 560 and 570 are the two top cards, respectively, but tend to run a hair more expensive than the comparable Radeon card. All told, a Core i5 CPU ($220), Mobo ( Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 looked like a decent budget board? $120) and a Sapphire 6870 ($165) would probably set you up pretty nicely for around $500. Don't forget you may need new RAM as well, but I think if you are using DDR3 already it may be usable.
Thanks. May just upgrade the video card and roll from there.
New amd cards in about a week or two. Might want to wait and see on those.
 
Anyone still using the ventrilo server? I popped on a couple time in the last 3 or 4 days and nobody was on every single time. Weird. Maybe everyone has moved on to 'Barbie 3D Shopping: The Game' instead? :)
That Barbie game is pretty good.I think the key is we need to get in vdnt whenever we play and just wait for someone to join. I'm playing now.
 
Probably ordering a new mobo cpu and gpu. Please advise.
I'd probably be looking into the Core i5 (value) or i7 (performance) Sandybridge CPUs, and the mobo to match. I don't know what the brand to buy these days is, but I've been partial to ASUS in the past, read good reviews about ASRock and Gigabyte recently and would expect that baring seriously flaws in implementations, most quality mobos will perform about the same. Maybe Cow has an opinion on Mobos?As for GPU, the Radeon 6870 seems to still be a very good value to speed choice, with the Radeon 6970 still being the highend card. If you prefer nVidia, then the GTX 560 and 570 are the two top cards, respectively, but tend to run a hair more expensive than the comparable Radeon card. All told, a Core i5 CPU ($220), Mobo ( Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 looked like a decent budget board? $120) and a Sapphire 6870 ($165) would probably set you up pretty nicely for around $500. Don't forget you may need new RAM as well, but I think if you are using DDR3 already it may be usable.
Thanks. May just upgrade the video card and roll from there.
Always easier spending someone else's money when it comes to questions like this, right? Video card is probably the biggest "bang for the buck". And Mad Cow might have some suggestions, he usually knows what things are on sale, etc.
 
Ok, so which one of you is tlp24? Just had that name add me as a friend and figured one of you got banned lol.

 
I don't remember a game, any game, driving me as nuts as this one. I haven't had a ton a time to play. Only like six hours or so, but damn I'm terrible. :bag: Seems like a lot of full bird colonels have stalked me from the moment I entered the game. My sons luck has been about the same. (He's doing a bit better but still dying way too much.) I watched the videos posted this week and while the guy doing them was a bad ###, I sure can't seem to put his advise to practical use.

End of rant.

I have joined the FBG platoon but haven't managed to catch anyone on-line. I've downloaded Ventrilo but don't know what to do with that either. :confused:

 
I don't remember a game, any game, driving me as nuts as this one. I haven't had a ton a time to play. Only like six hours or so, but damn I'm terrible. :bag: Seems like a lot of full bird colonels have stalked me from the moment I entered the game. My sons luck has been about the same. (He's doing a bit better but still dying way too much.) I watched the videos posted this week and while the guy doing them was a bad ###, I sure can't seem to put his advise to practical use.End of rant.I have joined the FBG platoon but haven't managed to catch anyone on-line. I've downloaded Ventrilo but don't know what to do with that either. :confused:
Well, for one, you can't be upset about not being as good as that guy. That guy has a 2.8 K/d ratio without a huge amount of vehicle time. He's probably a top .1% player. The way he jumps from target to target squeezing off headshots is insane.Why are you struggling? Are you just getting out twitched or are you missing shots because you are spraying all over the place? I know you said you played a lot of BF2, but this game is VERY different. In Bf2, they built in lots of random bullet deviation, so infantry play was a lot more forgiving. Bf3's mechanics make COD-type infantry super-stars much more deadly. Some of it will come with map knowledge, but controlling recoil is the key. Playing medic is probably the best way to rank up early, as you'll get lots of extra points for reviving and healing. The M16A3 (starting US medic gun) is extremely consistent and versatile. You only need 50 kills to unlock the foregrip and red dot site and then you're pretty much in business. (assuming that's the site you like to use)Other than shot guns, LMG's and bolt action sniper rifles (which i almost never use) I use suppressors on all my guns. It keeps you off the mini-map and lowers recoil. It gives you extra bullet drop and less damage at long ranges, but most battles in this game are fought at mid/short range anyway.
 
Like what happened in BC2, a good helicopter pilot is virtually undefeatable and essentially sucks all of the fun out of whatever match is going on. Fortunately, it doesn't happen too often, but I'm done fighting these guys, I'm just going to quit and find a new match when this happens.

 
Like what happened in BC2, a good helicopter pilot is virtually undefeatable and essentially sucks all of the fun out of whatever match is going on. Fortunately, it doesn't happen too often, but I'm done fighting these guys, I'm just going to quit and find a new match when this happens.
The chopper pilots have gained a lot of strength since release. No question about it. Its a combination of them unlocking stuff and Dice nerfing some of the counters.Its still not as bad as Bf2. There were many occasions on Sharqi where the MEC chopper gunner would go like 120-0. No working anti-air missiles. It was a disaster.
 
OK my son and I are on the teamspeak page at the beginning of this thread. Someone come on there and help us stop dying horrible deaths. lol

 
OK my son and I are on the teamspeak page at the beginning of this thread. Someone come on there and help us stop dying horrible deaths. lol
we actually only use the vent server now
IS there a server addy or anything we need for that??
Sent a PM, don't remember if it was ever posted in the thread or not and don't want to be the first if not.
OK, found Maelstrom in a server today but he was in a full squad. I'm up and op on the Ventrilo server now.
 
Anyone still using the ventrilo server? I popped on a couple time in the last 3 or 4 days and nobody was on every single time. Weird. Maybe everyone has moved on to 'Barbie 3D Shopping: The Game' instead? :)
That Barbie game is pretty good.I think the key is we need to get in vdnt whenever we play and just wait for someone to join. I'm playing now.
I've been on the Ventrilo server every time I've played the past two days. Only people on there are my son and I. Good News is we are both getting better and fast ! =)
 
Guess we're not ready for prime time yet. That was too intense for the boy and I today. Every time I spawned in I was getting lit up like a Chrismas tree. lol Thanks for the two games anyway. We will try again another day.

 
Guess we're not ready for prime time yet. That was too intense for the boy and I today. Every time I spawned in I was getting lit up like a Chrismas tree. lol Thanks for the two games anyway. We will try again another day.
that was a tough server. We were constantly surrounded.
 
I'm going to have to get a new video card for the new maps, it was really bad tonight and has been since they came out. Even when it flips to an old map, I was having issues. Hopefully when the 7 series comes out prices will drop and I'll pick up a new one.

 
I'm going to have to get a new video card for the new maps, it was really bad tonight and has been since they came out. Even when it flips to an old map, I was having issues. Hopefully when the 7 series comes out prices will drop and I'll pick up a new one.
Once the 7000 series releases next week we can talk. :-)
 
Finally got back to playing a little. Played with cooley the other night a couple quick games. My sad yet funny highlight. he is in one of the armored vehicles and he drives right past me, I say hold up I'll hop in and drive over with you. He stops for literally 1 second I'm running up to the vehicle, when EXPLOSION, they blew him to bits.

I get some damage but don't die.

me: :lmao: um, er , sorry :lmao:

cooley: Well that sucked

It was like a movie scene :lol:

I definitely need to upgrade my monitor

 
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For PS3 users, my buddy told me the issue with the mics isn't getting fixed. The problem is that the chat system has to run in memory and the PS3 is light on RAM. In order to run the game, it has to use all the RAM just for that. So they don't even have the ability to go in an re-allocate some more RAM to the chatting.

So, IMO, it's a broken game on the PS3 and junk. In a game that requires teamwork, if you can't actually talk to your squad/team, then the game is broken and worthless.

BF3 will be the last battlefield game I buy because of that. I know there are obviously hardware limitations, but figure out some way around it. Even if it means backing down the textures a bit or something. And for EA/Dice not to admit to the problem and admit it's not getting fixed is even more inexcusable. I never would have wasted my money if I knew that it would be unplayable.

 
Post from Demize (Dice's main game balance guy) on the upcoming changes to attachments. Basically, they're making a bunch of tweaks to set it up so that each attachment is best in certain situations (as opposed to now, when nobody uses flash suppressor, for example). Some of the changes make absolutely no sense from a realism perspective (why would using a foregrip make you LESS accurate while lowering recoil?). I get why they're doing it, but it will have a huge effect on the game, Heavy Barrel and flash suppressor are getting significant bumps. Also, these bumps/nerfs vary by gun. So while the Heavy barrel (for example) may give a 50% accuracy bump to base aim by default, that bonus varies based on what gun you use......

I'm working on a retweak of the accessories in the game currently, as I feel the player is limited in choice due to a few accessories being the clear winners in almost all categories. While this unfortunately means nerfing those that are over used, the goal here is to focus on improving the under performing and under used attachments. Additionally it is the intention for an unmodified weapon to offer the best balance of Recoil, Accuracy, and Stealth. [...] Again, I'm not promising this will go live, and I'm not promising there will be an update, I'm looking for feedback and a discussion.

Thanks, Alan "Demize99" Kertz

Foregrip

The Foregrip is for players who who are in close combat and highly mobile fighting situations. It reduces the horizontal recoil forces that make maintaining a consistant aim on target difficult, however it makes aimed shots more difficult.

+34% reduction in horizontal recoil (adjust based on gun)

-20% penalty to base accuracy when aimed

Rationale: The Foregrip is quite powerful on weapons with high amounts of horizontal recoil, and is generally the goto attachment for everyone using Assault Rifles and Carbines. Currently it has no downside, which makes it a pure bonus upgrade and is a no brainer. Adjusting the foregrip on a per gun basis will prevent the foregrip from over powering some guns, and also means it doesn't need to be globally nerfed into oblivion. For example, 50% of the FAMAS's recoil is 0.3deg, while 50% of the G3A3's recoil is only 0.1deg. A global 0.1deg might work better, generally it will need to be on a per gun basis. The 20% penalty to aimed fire is about equal to a single shot fired on a Carbine.

Bipod

The Bipod is for Players who wish to setup a position and hold it against the enemy, or make long range shots effectively. When deployed recoil and dispersion are substantially reduced and scope sway is eliminated (except under suppression).

+Reduction in horizontal and vertical recoil (% depends on gun type)

+Reduction in dispersion (% depends on gun type/ammo type)

-Has to be setup to get the benefit

Rationale: The Bipod is underused, has a large penalty of needing to be stationary, yet today doesn't offer enough benefits on Carbines and Assault Rifles to be worth using. A buff of the bipod for these, and perhaps even LMG weapons is likely necessary.

Suppressor

The Suppressor is for players who are mostly focused on Stealth. It uses low velocity rounds, which means better stealth at the cost of reduced range. The Suppressor adds bulk to a weapon due to its size, making firing from the hip more difficult, though a high quality Suppressor provides a small aimed accuracy bonus and reduces the muzzle rise when firing.

+Does not appear on minimap when firing.

+Reduces sound and visual muzzle signature

-Reduced range for both min and max, damage stays the same.

-50% penalty to base accuracy from the hip

+25% bonus to base accuracy when aimed

+10% reduced vertical recoil

Rationale: Today the Suppressor's main penalty is the slower bullet speed, the current 34% penalty to hip fire is almost ignore-able at any range you would hip fire, and with the upcoming buff to aim speed (time to accurate when aiming) the downside needs to be larger. Additionally, the damage over range is only actually applied for LMGs and ARs, removing it and replacing it with a reduced to range makes this more consistent for all weapon types and focuses it more on close range (For reference, today an AR kills with 5 rounds at 40m and drops off to 7 shots, with a suppressor this would be 25m, but beyond 25m the damage would be a flat 6 shots.) Today the Suppressor also gives a 50% bonus to aimed accuracy, which is the same as the heavy barrel, but without the additional recoil. In fact the suppressor reduces vertical recoil by 10%, an amount which is essentially negligible, but is just one more reason to use the suppressor instead of other accessories. Reducing this bonus makes sense, and allows the suppressor to offset the foregrip penalty, while not being as good as the heavy barrel. This is of course over all a nerf but hopefully a minor one to what is essentially not an overpowered, just over used/general purpose, accessory.

Heavy Barrel

The Heavy Barrel is for players who are focused on Accurate Aimed fire. It uses high velocity rounds, which means the bullet drop is reduced and the max range of the weapon is increased at the cost of an increase in auto fire dispersion. The Heavy Barrel adds bulk to a weapon due to its weight, making firing from the hip more difficult, though it gives a substantial increase in aimed accuracy bonus.

+Increased maximum range, damage stays the same.

-25% increased dispersion per shot

+50% bonus to base accuracy when aimed

-25% penalty to base accuracy from the hip

Rationale: The Heavy Barrel gets used decently often today, though I think mostly because it's available quite a bit earlier than the Suppressor for Assault Rifles and Carbines. Frankly, the penalty today to recoil, as well as a penalty to deviation, makes the aimed accuracy increase useless, especially since the Suppressor has the accuracy bonus as well. So, let's pull the recoil penalty off this baby entirely, keep the auto fire accuracy penalty to keep it focused on small bursts of accurate aimed fire, and finally, push the maximum range of the rounds out a bit. This will give the Heavy Barrel better performance in medium range by extending the 5 shots to kill window of a 556 or 545 AR from 40 to 65m. Past 65m, the damage would be the same. This is a rather large buff.

Flash Suppressor

The Flash Suppressor is for players who want some additional Stealth, without the range and accuracy penalties of a Suppressor. It works as a recoil compensator, reducing recoil, though it adds a slight bit of bulk making firing from the hip more difficult.

+Reduces visual muzzle signature

+20% reduced vertical recoil

-20% penalty to base accuracy from the hip

Rationale: The Flash Suppressor is underwhelming generally. While it hides the muzzle flash it doesn't hide you on the minimap. I considered allowing it to hide on the minimap, but then it begins to just be a Suppressor without the aim bonus and range penalties. I want it to be something different. By allowing the Flash Suppressor to work as a recoil Compensator, the FS becomes a middle ground between the Suppressor and Heavy Barrel. If you're otherwise happy with the range, damage, and accuracy of your weapon, then the FS should be a nice buff to manageable recoil, without a whole lot of penalty. This is also a large buff.

Target Pointer

The Target Pointer is for players who want to run and gun from the hip. The laser is visible, making the user more visibile to other combatants and thus less Stealthy.

-Visible Laser

+Laser can dazzle opponents

+33% increase in base accuracy from the hip

Rationale: The Target Pointer works well for its role, and generally feels like it doesn't need to be changed.

 
Taught me a ton of stuff i didn't know about tanking.

I'd call a few of these things "exploits" because of how cheap they are. But they're in the game, so it is what it is. I can't believe they let a tank driver get all his reactive armor back just by jumping out of the tank and jumping back in. Crazy.

I also had no idea that Canister shells replaced your secondary weapon (LMG or HMG). I always just assumed they replaced your regular tank shells. I'll definitely be using that combo going forward.

 
Been trying to get my last 2 ribbons and its been an absolute #####.Stationary weapon- all the TOW launchers are in terrible spots and there are no mounted MG's like in past games. Does anyone have this?MCOM defender- apparently it only counts if you kill the guy during the 3 seconds where he is actually setting the bomb. kinda lame that i actually get rewarded for a ribbon by allowing the guy to start setting it rather than just killing him on sight. I know I'm being a totally lame reward whore, but seeing those 2 blank spots in my battlelog just drives me nuts.
I was in the same boat as you. I took care of the stationary. I had just joined into a game via quick match on Karg Island and we were getting spawn camped pretyy bad, so I hopped in the stationary anti air gun. Got 3 of em by shooting down 3 choppers with 2 people each.Still haven't earned the MCOM defender yet, it's funny, I think that I had more of those than anything in BFBC2
 
Seems like the games have gotten WAY easier over the last week or so.(at least for me as an individual. My teams still stink a lot of the time) I've had some insanely good rounds.

Just started a game off 20-0 on Sharqi peninsula. Finished 28-1, but i was revived once. All infantry. Lots of very stupid people kept running through VERY narrow areas. It was like a turkey shoot.

Also had a 28-2 using a bolt action rifle on Kharg. Even though i think sniping is a waste of time, it is pretty satisfying when you drill some guy in the head while he's running full speed.

May get on again in a few hours. Taking it easy tonight after a busy night last night (hint: at one point, I sang karaoke to

)
 
Seems like the games have gotten WAY easier over the last week or so.(at least for me as an individual. My teams still stink a lot of the time) I've had some insanely good rounds.

Just started a game off 20-0 on Sharqi peninsula. Finished 28-1, but i was revived once. All infantry. Lots of very stupid people kept running through VERY narrow areas. It was like a turkey shoot.

Also had a 28-2 using a bolt action rifle on Kharg. Even though i think sniping is a waste of time, it is pretty satisfying when you drill some guy in the head while he's running full speed.

May get on again in a few hours. Taking it easy tonight after a busy night last night (hint: at one point, I sang karaoke to

Very good song. Live's one of my favorite bands.
 
Seems like the games have gotten WAY easier over the last week or so.(at least for me as an individual. My teams still stink a lot of the time) I've had some insanely good rounds.

Just started a game off 20-0 on Sharqi peninsula. Finished 28-1, but i was revived once. All infantry. Lots of very stupid people kept running through VERY narrow areas. It was like a turkey shoot.

Also had a 28-2 using a bolt action rifle on Kharg. Even though i think sniping is a waste of time, it is pretty satisfying when you drill some guy in the head while he's running full speed.

May get on again in a few hours. Taking it easy tonight after a busy night last night (hint: at one point, I sang karaoke to

I thought I did it justice. But I was a tad tipsyIn retrospect, I have a suspicion that I didn't rock as many faces as I thought I did. :unsure:

 
Seems like the games have gotten WAY easier over the last week or so.(at least for me as an individual. My teams still stink a lot of the time) I've had some insanely good rounds.

Just started a game off 20-0 on Sharqi peninsula. Finished 28-1, but i was revived once. All infantry. Lots of very stupid people kept running through VERY narrow areas. It was like a turkey shoot.

Also had a 28-2 using a bolt action rifle on Kharg. Even though i think sniping is a waste of time, it is pretty satisfying when you drill some guy in the head while he's running full speed.

May get on again in a few hours. Taking it easy tonight after a busy night last night (hint: at one point, I sang karaoke to

It's hard to rock faces with "Lightning Crashes". Probably should go with "I Alone" or "Lakini's Juice" for that.
 
I'm taking a vacation from BF3 until I get a rig that can run it better. I saw a deal on an SSD that I may pick up. Really waiting on the Video Card.

 
I'm taking a vacation from BF3 until I get a rig that can run it better. I saw a deal on an SSD that I may pick up. Really waiting on the Video Card.
Ahh...I was wondering why I hadn't seen you much recently. Actually was wondering about my machine the other night, and if it could have a part to play in me losing most of the faceoffs I encounter. It's also just possible I really suck, and there are definitely "strategic" things I could do better. But there are times where it seems I couldn't have been any faster, or even got the drop on someone, and they killed me anyways. Ah well, still having fun as long as I don't overdo it.
 
I'm taking a vacation from BF3 until I get a rig that can run it better. I saw a deal on an SSD that I may pick up. Really waiting on the Video Card.
Ahh...I was wondering why I hadn't seen you much recently. Actually was wondering about my machine the other night, and if it could have a part to play in me losing most of the faceoffs I encounter. It's also just possible I really suck, and there are definitely "strategic" things I could do better. But there are times where it seems I couldn't have been any faster, or even got the drop on someone, and they killed me anyways. Ah well, still having fun as long as I don't overdo it.
It seems I can play the old maps fine. If a server doesn't have a new map in the rotation at all, it doesn't seem to effect me. If I play an old map but the server has new maps in the rotation later on, I get a ton of stuttering. Not sure what the deal is, but it's time for an overhaul. I may jump out there soon regardless.
 
Just recently unlocked USAS12 with the frag ammo. Sweet Jesus. On tight maps like Seine and Bazaar, this thing is borderline unfair.

After playing a lot of Engineer initially and finally realizing that the RPGs kinda suck against tanks, I'm finding I'm generally either running with:

Assault: F2000 with Holo, suppressor and foregrip. Use smoke on attack and medic kit on defense

or

Support: MG36 with same attachments as above. I esp use this with C4 if there are enemy tanks.

 
Anyone playing tonight?

The BF community seems to be getting more and more stupid every day.

Every team I join has 8 or 9 players not in squads unless the server has auto join turned on. Just brutal.

Last night, i ended up in a squad where all 3 of the other guys were using the "squad explosives" specialization. Despite me reminding them that they should use different specs in squad chat like 4 times, nobody switched. And these are guys that are level 40+.

For PS3 guys, looks like Dice is fixing the VOIP in the next patch. Probably too little too late for some people, but at least they're still trying.

I still love the game, but they need to ratchet up the new map roll outs. Would 2 or 3 every 6-8 weeks really be all that difficult?

 
EA is FINALLY releasing a patch for the PS3 on February 7th to fix the VOIP issue that they continued to downplay and pretend didn't exist and wasn't a big deal. I may actually go back and play some now. Although now all the uber-nerds that still played will be all ranked out while I'll still be a lonely peon.

 
Well, the mic fix actually works for the PS3. It's nice to actually be able to communicate with your team. Makes the game much more fun.

Unfortunately, on every server I was on last night, 90% of the other teams were running some type of shotgun with frag ammo. Usually the USAS. It's so brutally overpowered it's ridiculous. I was getting one shot killed from 100'+ an awful lot when the guy had to have been barely hitting me as well. There's something really wrong when a stupid shotgun is more effective from 100' than a tank's heavy MG. That needs to be dialed down immediately because there is absolutely zero skill involved with it. Heck, I put an RPG round practically into a guy's face, didn't kill him, and died from his one blast from his USAS with frag ammo. Just plain silly.

 
No posts for almost 2 weeks. :kicksrock:

Still playing the game (and on a decent hot streak thanks to discovering the G53) but DiCe is making the same mistake they made with Bc2. You can't release a game with 9 maps, give us 4 re-hashes (one of which is Wake Island, which blows goats and doesn't count) and then be silent for 2 months (on both patches AND new content).

Combine that with the fact that most 64 player servers have 1000 ticket count, and I'm basically down to like 5 servers that I can actually play on.

 
No posts for almost 2 weeks. :kicksrock:Still playing the game (and on a decent hot streak thanks to discovering the G53) but DiCe is making the same mistake they made with Bc2. You can't release a game with 9 maps, give us 4 re-hashes (one of which is Wake Island, which blows goats and doesn't count) and then be silent for 2 months (on both patches AND new content).Combine that with the fact that most 64 player servers have 1000 ticket count, and I'm basically down to like 5 servers that I can actually play on.
I'm really surprised at how few game servers there are to play on at a time. There are some times when it's under 10 results when my filters are normal US servers with 32+ players playing Conquest, Large Conquest or Rush.And like you said, most of the servers are high ticket servers.
 
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I think I got to the point where I would rather diversify my portfolio rather than play 1 game over and over again. Just feels fresher and more fun. I have jumped on a couple of times, but really have enjoyed Skyrim, Deus Ex:HR and have Mass Effect 3 out in 2 weeks, let alone Diablo 3 this summer. Throw in many games on Steam that I still want to play, and it's just math.

 

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