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How does this look for a new system:

CASE: TURBO X-DREAMER CASE W/ NZXT PF-500 500 WATT PS W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (BLACK COLOR)

Bah, buy a cheap case, and forget the power supply, you can't use a stock PSU with this new rig.

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 CPU @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T

I guess this is good, I'm an AMD fanboi. Especialyl since they bought ATI. I'm going to stay aligned with AMD, and I think you can get comprable performance right now from an X2 AMD for perhaps less money.

MOTHERBOARD: ECS P965T-A P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394&7.1Audio

I don't know about Interl Mobos since I didn't research any.

MEMORY: 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select)

I'd spend a little extra on non-Value ram, which usually isn't overclockable, but it depends on how cheap that ram is.

VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon X1950 Pro PCI-E x16 256MB VIDEO CARD

Great value, but the card I bought is damn near as good as value at $150. X1900GT

HARD DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar 320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Caviar is speedy, but I'd get two smaller drivers and Raid 0 them (it's extremely easy). You get slightly faster performance, at the risk of total data loss if you lose a drive (not very common)

DVD-RW Drive: Sony Q170A 18x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive

I recommend buying a bargain basement DVD writer. You can usually get OEM versions at MicroCenter or Newegg for very cheap.

DVD Drive: SONY 16X DVD-ROM

Same as above.

SOUND: Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI Sound Card (Darn you Gator) :sarcasm:

Waste of money. Just kidding.

LCD MONITER: Samsung LCD 940 BX 19"

Is this not a widescreen? Spring for a little extra to get a widescreen, you can easily make up the extra costs with savings elsewhere.

$1,755.00 Including shipping (Windows XP Pro W/Office 2003 Pro & "free" Vista Upgrades will add $434.00)
Comments in bold above.I'd recommend two extra things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820300901 - One of the best bang for the buck add ons.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005 - Good highly recommend budget PSU. The stock PSU virtually every case STINKS. Your CPU, Vid card are going to chew up a tremendous amount of power. You ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS with your rig above. The stock PSU will not cut it.
With a complete rebuild, I would definitely go Intel and keep in mind I am an AMD fanboy. The X2's cannot keep pace with the C2D CPU's. It is like AMD is the old Intel and C2D is the old AMD. Cheap opticals is easy. Get a cheap case - you can save a lot there. I agree getting 2 smaller, cheaper SATA HDD's and doing a RAID 0.
 
Yeah - we could do a LOT better for the price.

What are the individual prices?
Thats actually a quote from Cyber Power with the monitor coming from Newegg. Cyber Power was only $5.00 more than buying the individual components from Newegg and building my own system.

If somebody can find components to build a comparable system and save me serious $$$ I will send them a nice Polo / Golf shirt.

Disclaimer, No overclocking to achieve similar specs!!

Core 2 Duo E6600 or better

Motherboard with onboard USB 2.0 & IEEE 1394

2 Gb PC6400 ram

320 gb hard drive or larger

DVD-RW Dual Layer

ATI X1950 Pro or better Video card

Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Sound Card

Nice case with nice lights

500 Watt PS or Better

19" LCD Monitor (8ms response time or better, with good contrast and brightness, non-widescreen)
Done. How much do I need to save to win the shirt?
 
How does this look for a new system:

CASE: TURBO X-DREAMER CASE W/ NZXT PF-500 500 WATT PS W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (BLACK COLOR)

Bah, buy a cheap case, and forget the power supply, you can't use a stock PSU with this new rig.

Is this not a widescreen? Spring for a little extra to get a widescreen, you can easily make up the extra costs with savings elsewhere.

$1,755.00 Including shipping (Windows XP Pro W/Office 2003 Pro & "free" Vista Upgrades will add $434.00)
Comments in bold above.I'd recommend two extra things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820300901 - One of the best bang for the buck add ons.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005 - Good highly recommend budget PSU. The stock PSU virtually every case STINKS. Your CPU, Vid card are going to chew up a tremendous amount of power. You ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS with your rig above. The stock PSU will not cut it.
I did not quote a stock PSU, it is an extra NZXT brand PSU. Why widescreen on the monitor?? I'm not planning on using the PC to watch movies, just for my wife's home business and gaming.

Is gaming that much better on a widescreen?? Do most of the new games even support wide screen? :shrug:

 
This is for me to add to:

Core 2 Duo E6600 or better

$270 at MicroCenter - http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_pr...oduct_id=253108

Gonna need an AM cooler for that - $30 at the Egg for the best:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835186134

Motherboard with onboard USB 2.0 & IEEE 1394

Gonna try this for now - Asus P5 SLI for $145

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131142

2 Gb PC6400 ram

High quality DD2 800 RAM for $207 after $32 MIR:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227089

320 gb hard drive or larger

2 of these - 160 GB Caviar SE SATA drives to put in RAID 0 for $106:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144415

DVD-RW Dual Layer

Samsung DVD burner for $32

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151136

ATI X1950 Pro or better Video card

Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Sound Card

$80 at Outpost.com - https://shop3.outpost.com/product/5020015

Nice case with front USB and Firewire

FREE after MIR (free ground ship, too) - It is the case I have in my office and is very spacious. Nothing fancy, but works fine. We save here for something nicer elsewhere.

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4997441

500 Watt PS or Better

Gonna splurge here and get a 580W that I just got. It is modular, SLI/CF ready and at 580W, is DX10 ready, as well - $85 (I think it has a light, too)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817128002

Floppy Reader $19 - Stole Maelstrom's, but I am gonna ditch his DVD for a little cheaper.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16821104104

19" LCD Monitor (8ms response time or better, with good contrast and brightness, non-widescreen)

2 options - 1 widescreen, 1 non-WS. Average the 2 for $190 cost.

Sceptre 20.1" widescreen for $200 (nice): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824112006

Sceptre 19" for $180: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16824112177

Sitting at $1163:

Still have $337 for a video card? Sheesh, you didn't even make this hard for me. Now for the coup de gras. . .

 
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How does this look for a new system:

CASE: TURBO X-DREAMER CASE W/ NZXT PF-500 500 WATT PS W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (BLACK COLOR)

Bah, buy a cheap case, and forget the power supply, you can't use a stock PSU with this new rig.

Is this not a widescreen? Spring for a little extra to get a widescreen, you can easily make up the extra costs with savings elsewhere.

$1,755.00 Including shipping (Windows XP Pro W/Office 2003 Pro & "free" Vista Upgrades will add $434.00)
Comments in bold above.I'd recommend two extra things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820300901 - One of the best bang for the buck add ons.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005 - Good highly recommend budget PSU. The stock PSU virtually every case STINKS. Your CPU, Vid card are going to chew up a tremendous amount of power. You ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS with your rig above. The stock PSU will not cut it.
I did not quote a stock PSU, it is an extra NZXT brand PSU. Why widescreen on the monitor?? I'm not planning on using the PC to watch movies, just for my wife's home business and gaming.

Is gaming that much better on a widescreen?? Do most of the new games even support wide screen? :shrug:
I prefer non-WS, but that is me. I would say it needs to be 22" or greater to be better than a 19" standard screen IMO.
 
Yeah - we could do a LOT better for the price.

What are the individual prices?
Thats actually a quote from Cyber Power with the monitor coming from Newegg. Cyber Power was only $5.00 more than buying the individual components from Newegg and building my own system.

If somebody can find components to build a comparable system and save me serious $$$ I will send them a nice Polo / Golf shirt.

Disclaimer, No overclocking to achieve similar specs!!

Core 2 Duo E6600 or better

SLI Motherboard with onboard USB 2.0 & IEEE 1394 and at least 2 PCI slots

2 Gb PC6400 ram

320 gb hard drive or larger

DVD-RW Dual Layer

Floppy Drive

ATI X1950 Pro or better Video card

Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Sound Card

Nice case with front audio and USB ports

500 Watt PS or Better

19" LCD Monitor (8ms response time or better, with good contrast and brightness, non-widescreen)
Done. How much do I need to save to win the shirt?
I made a couple of changes to the above specs that I bolded. I forgot to add a floppy drive to the above specs.

My wife does some custom embroidery and uses the PC to design and edit new patterns. The embroidery machine runs off of floppy discs :popcorn:

All above components and shipping & tax combined for $1,500 or better.

With Windows XP Pro and Office 2003 Pro (I need Access and Publisher) and Vista Upgrades I would like to be at $1,900 or better.

 
I sit here researching stuff between patients wondering if Amish Boy was just trying to find an imaginative way to get the Cow to do some leg work for him. :gang1:

 
Now I am getting excited. If I can find a couple of more deals, I am gonna make you happy with my graphics card selection. :lmao:

 
Getting right now - almost $600 for case, opticals, monitor and video card. Dang. If the monitor wasn't there, Gamer would have a big boy. Either way, I will provide a budget one, and one for the splurge. :lmao:

 
Use LiteOn for the DVD-writers - last time I checked the speed tests, they were right behind Plextor (the fastest) and extremely reliable. I have put in about 5 of them between my computers here at home, friends or clients.

Something like this:

LiteOn DVD burner

Instead of a "standard" floppy, get one of these floppy/card reader combos and you'll be able to read most memory cards plus floppy disks in a 3 1/2" drive bay:

Floppy / card reader

 
SONUVA! I almost made it for you have the eVGA 8800GTS - DX10 NOW! Let's go ahead and give you a couple of options, but keep in mind that this 8800GTS single will destroy ANY DX9 card in SLI and come pretty close to 2 7900GTX cards in SLI. The 8800GTX does beat 2 GTX's in SLI. :(

OK, base price is $1163

With eVGA 8800GTS is $390 after MIR, so that brings us to $1553 and bragging rights to having a better gaming rig than any BF2 FBG. fast_eddie has the 8800GTX, so he would alone stand in your way. :nerdcred:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130071

Now, if we want to take it down a notch, we could do the X1950Pro for $180 like this and be at about $1350:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814161060

However, given you are an SLI rig, you might want to keep it NVIdia and go with TWO 7900 GS cards in SLI like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130056

for $312 for 2. Still very nice, huh?

 
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Do I win?
Do you have links to all of the components??
Scrolling up down?
:banned: Prices quoted in above post include shipping??Even if they don't I can still get the the ATI X1950 Pro and still be below the $1,500.00 :thumbup:PM me your address and shirt size (S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL) and the shirt is yours. I'll have to check with Boyd's and see if they have hats. :lmao:
Many have free shipping, some maybe a few bucks not included.
 
Do I win?
Do you have links to all of the components??
Scrolling up down?
:bag: Prices quoted in above post include shipping??Even if they don't I can still get the the ATI X1950 Pro and still be below the $1,500.00 :bye:PM me your address and shirt size (S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL) and the shirt is yours. I'll have to check with Boyd's and see if they have hats. :)
Many have free shipping, some maybe a few bucks not included.
:banned: :PI guess I'll be putting a PC together soon. BTW this info comes with a lifetime tech support warranty right?? :P
 
Do I win?
Do you have links to all of the components??
Scrolling up down?
;) Prices quoted in above post include shipping??Even if they don't I can still get the the ATI X1950 Pro and still be below the $1,500.00 :shrug:PM me your address and shirt size (S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL) and the shirt is yours. I'll have to check with Boyd's and see if they have hats. :)
Many have free shipping, some maybe a few bucks not included.
:lmao: ;)I guess I'll be putting a PC together soon. BTW this info comes with a lifetime tech support warranty right?? :P
If by lifetime tech support you mean being able to ask me a question or 2 if I decide to answer you, then sure. ;)
 
How does this look for a new system:

CASE: TURBO X-DREAMER CASE W/ NZXT PF-500 500 WATT PS W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (BLACK COLOR)

Bah, buy a cheap case, and forget the power supply, you can't use a stock PSU with this new rig.

Is this not a widescreen? Spring for a little extra to get a widescreen, you can easily make up the extra costs with savings elsewhere.

$1,755.00 Including shipping (Windows XP Pro W/Office 2003 Pro & "free" Vista Upgrades will add $434.00)
Comments in bold above.I'd recommend two extra things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820300901 - One of the best bang for the buck add ons.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005 - Good highly recommend budget PSU. The stock PSU virtually every case STINKS. Your CPU, Vid card are going to chew up a tremendous amount of power. You ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS with your rig above. The stock PSU will not cut it.
I did not quote a stock PSU, it is an extra NZXT brand PSU. Why widescreen on the monitor?? I'm not planning on using the PC to watch movies, just for my wife's home business and gaming.

Is gaming that much better on a widescreen?? Do most of the new games even support wide screen? :thumbdown:
That PSU is not on the recommended list at ExtremeOVerclockers: LinkyRemember, it's not so much the total wattage as it is the amperage on the 12V rails. Read that link.

 
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How does this look for a new system:

CASE: TURBO X-DREAMER CASE W/ NZXT PF-500 500 WATT PS W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (BLACK COLOR)

Bah, buy a cheap case, and forget the power supply, you can't use a stock PSU with this new rig.

Is this not a widescreen? Spring for a little extra to get a widescreen, you can easily make up the extra costs with savings elsewhere.

$1,755.00 Including shipping (Windows XP Pro W/Office 2003 Pro & "free" Vista Upgrades will add $434.00)
Comments in bold above.I'd recommend two extra things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820300901 - One of the best bang for the buck add ons.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005 - Good highly recommend budget PSU. The stock PSU virtually every case STINKS. Your CPU, Vid card are going to chew up a tremendous amount of power. You ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS with your rig above. The stock PSU will not cut it.
I did not quote a stock PSU, it is an extra NZXT brand PSU. Why widescreen on the monitor?? I'm not planning on using the PC to watch movies, just for my wife's home business and gaming.

Is gaming that much better on a widescreen?? Do most of the new games even support wide screen? :cry:
That PSU is not on the recommended list at ExtremeOVerclockers: LinkyRemember, it's not so much the total wattage as it is the amperage on the 12V rails. Read that link.
Yes, the 12V rail is the most important there, but that list smacks of snobbery even among :nerd: s. I use overclock.net personally, and the PSU I have listed in my specs above is great at 580W and rock solid according to many reviews. Add in that it is modular and :shrug: So, Amish Boy, when are you gonna buy that stuff?

 
And on an AWESOME note, my Extreme Gamer and HPA Surround headphones will be here this AM. :shrug: :cry:

 
Hey Gamer Boy - since you like the ATI way, could I suggest the x1900xtx over the 1950 pro?

$300 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16814102672R

Less new on eBay (manufacturer warranties) and it is a beast. With AA and AF it even outpaces an 8800GTX! :shrug:

Better yet, the X1950XTX but they are in the $360 range.

Let me find a better deal. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-X1900-XTX-512Mb-PC...1QQcmdZViewItem

No bids, starting at $200 and still has the 3 yr ATI warranty (through ATI and they are great and easy to work with).

 
Hey Gamer Boy - since you like the ATI way, could I suggest the x1900xtx over the 1950 pro?

$300 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16814102672R

Less new on eBay (manufacturer warranties) and it is a beast. With AA and AF it even outpaces an 8800GTX! :thumbup:

Better yet, the X1950XTX but they are in the $360 range.

Let me find a better deal. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-X1900-XTX-512Mb-PC...1QQcmdZViewItem

No bids, starting at $200 and still has the 3 yr ATI warranty (through ATI and they are great and easy to work with).
I was looking at the XTX model but decided the X1950 Pro would be very good for less money... I didn't want to spend too much on a video card because when I make the switch to Vista, a DX10 video card will be my first upgrade. Now if we can find a X1900 XTX for close to the same price as the X1950 Pro :thumbup:

 
Hey Gamer Boy - since you like the ATI way, could I suggest the x1900xtx over the 1950 pro?

$300 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16814102672R

Less new on eBay (manufacturer warranties) and it is a beast. With AA and AF it even outpaces an 8800GTX! :unsure:

Better yet, the X1950XTX but they are in the $360 range.

Let me find a better deal. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-X1900-XTX-512Mb-PC...1QQcmdZViewItem

No bids, starting at $200 and still has the 3 yr ATI warranty (through ATI and they are great and easy to work with).
I was looking at the XTX model but decided the X1950 Pro would be very good for less money... I didn't want to spend too much on a video card because when I make the switch to Vista, a DX10 video card will be my first upgrade. Now if we can find a X1900 XTX for close to the same price as the X1950 Pro :thumbup:
Follow that eBay auction - I know I am. :thumbup:
 
Hey Gamer Boy - since you like the ATI way, could I suggest the x1900xtx over the 1950 pro?

$300 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16814102672R

Less new on eBay (manufacturer warranties) and it is a beast. With AA and AF it even outpaces an 8800GTX! :yes:

Better yet, the X1950XTX but they are in the $360 range.

Let me find a better deal. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-X1900-XTX-512Mb-PC...1QQcmdZViewItem

No bids, starting at $200 and still has the 3 yr ATI warranty (through ATI and they are great and easy to work with).
I was looking at the XTX model but decided the X1950 Pro would be very good for less money... I didn't want to spend too much on a video card because when I make the switch to Vista, a DX10 video card will be my first upgrade. Now if we can find a X1900 XTX for close to the same price as the X1950 Pro :construction:
Follow that eBay auction - I know I am. :thumbup:
Its on my watch list :hey:
 
Couple questions concerning the PC Build..

What is the benefit of getting two 160 GB hard drives in RAID 0 over one 320 GB hard drive??

I can save $15.00 by going with one big hard drive instead of two smaller ones.

Also is anybody famaliar with Hanns-G LCD Monitor??

It has free shipping so it would be slightly cheaper than the Spectre that the Mad Cow quoted. It has a slightly better respones time (5ms vs 8ms) and slightly worse contrast ratio (700:1 vs 800:1) than the Spectre.

My IT friend here at work raves about the Hanns-G LCD Monitors.

 
Couple questions concerning the PC Build..

What is the benefit of getting two 160 GB hard drives in RAID 0 over one 320 GB hard drive??

I can save $15.00 by going with one big hard drive instead of two smaller ones.

Also is anybody famaliar with Hanns-G LCD Monitor??

It has free shipping so it would be slightly cheaper than the Spectre that the Mad Cow quoted. It has a slightly better respones time (5ms vs 8ms) and slightly worse contrast ratio (700:1 vs 800:1) than the Spectre.

My IT friend here at work raves about the Hanns-G LCD Monitors.
It will load and install programs faster, and load screens are reduced with the RAID 0. It gets twice the access time.As for the monitors, the Hanns-G get get good reviews that I have seen. I love Sceptre with my experience, but that is me. Save some cash with the Hanns-G. Just make sure you have a DVI input.

 
Mad Cow said:
GamerBoy61 said:
Couple questions concerning the PC Build..

What is the benefit of getting two 160 GB hard drives in RAID 0 over one 320 GB hard drive??

I can save $15.00 by going with one big hard drive instead of two smaller ones.

Also is anybody famaliar with Hanns-G LCD Monitor??

It has free shipping so it would be slightly cheaper than the Spectre that the Mad Cow quoted. It has a slightly better respones time (5ms vs 8ms) and slightly worse contrast ratio (700:1 vs 800:1) than the Spectre.

My IT friend here at work raves about the Hanns-G LCD Monitors.
It will load and install programs faster, and load screens are reduced with the RAID 0. It gets twice the access time.As for the monitors, the Hanns-G get get good reviews that I have seen. I love Sceptre with my experience, but that is me. Save some cash with the Hanns-G. Just make sure you have a DVI input.
RAID 0 is the performance side of the house. RAID 0 or "striping" uses two drives in conjunction with one other for speed. Data is divided when it is written to both drives so that the workload is balanced and thus more efficient. The data is broken up into chunks or stripes when it is alternatingly stored. There is no redundancy of data with RAID 0. You should be using two identical drives if you are setting up a RAID 0 but this is not required. Two different drives can be used but at a small cost. Keeping in mind that the workload is being balanced, the computer sets the drives up to be equal. If you have an 80 and a 120 gb drive, RAID 0 will have your machine treat them as two 80 gb drives, ignoring the extra 40 gb of space on drive two.

The benefits of RAID 1 are obvious but those of RAID 0 are understandable but not exactly clear. If you are like me you are asking yourself about now, how much of a performance boost do I get by striping my drives? If an effort to answer this in the most practical of ways, we took a machine we just finished testing with built on an AOpen AK86-L board and altered it by adding in an identical hard drive, formatting the system and setting it up in RAID 0 trim.

The tests we reran are: SiSoft Sandra 2004 Pro, Business Winstone 2004, Content Creation 2004, Code Creatures, Comanche 4, AquaMark 3, Serious Sam: The Second Encounter, Unreal Tournament 2003, Quake III and Return to Castle Wolfenstein (Checkpoint Demo). All synthetic and gaming benchmarks were patched with the most recent updates available at the time of this writing. Our aim here is to give you some idea of how much performance there is to be had here. All game tests were run at 1024x768 resolution. The Hard|OCP's UT2003 benchmarking program and the Guru3D's Quake III benchmarking program were used in measuring. All tests are the result of five runs per bench with the highest and lowest scores being thrown out. The remaining three scores are averaged and that is what you see here.

Test Bed

AMD Athlon 64 3000

AOpen AK86-L mainboard

Thermaltake K8 Silent Boost Cooler

Maxtor Diamond Max 9 SATA 80gb HDD

Corsair XMS3500 DDR (x2)

VisionTek Radeon 9800 XT

Generic CD-ROM

Windows XP Professional with all patches and service packs installed.

Results

With the workloads balanced between the two disks, Sandra 2004 Pro's File System Bench was no surprise to us at all.

Code:
RAID 0 72Regular 43
 
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GamerBoy61 said:
Mad Cow said:
Hey Gamer Boy - since you like the ATI way, could I suggest the x1900xtx over the 1950 pro?

$300 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16814102672R

Less new on eBay (manufacturer warranties) and it is a beast. With AA and AF it even outpaces an 8800GTX! :shock:

Better yet, the X1950XTX but they are in the $360 range.

Let me find a better deal. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-X1900-XTX-512Mb-PC...1QQcmdZViewItem

No bids, starting at $200 and still has the 3 yr ATI warranty (through ATI and they are great and easy to work with).
I was looking at the XTX model but decided the X1950 Pro would be very good for less money... I didn't want to spend too much on a video card because when I make the switch to Vista, a DX10 video card will be my first upgrade. Now if we can find a X1900 XTX for close to the same price as the X1950 Pro :goodposting:
Joe,Look at this:

http://www.4powells.com/frames.jpg

That's the frame rate in the top left hand corner in yellow. All settings are maxxed by the way, AA is at 6 samples.

That's a $150 1900GT in BF2 on the 48 player Titan mode last night we were all playing on. Save yourself some money. That 1900GT is plenty good.

 
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