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They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
 
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They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
I think it's the genetic mutation that Sylar believes makes people broken. It looks like Sylar's initial power was to see how things work. He sees what is making the telekinesis possible and it is obviously something he can use on/for himself.
 
4) Lots of Biblical names. Peter, Isaac, Micah. Doesn't Micah save the world in the old testament? Not sure on that one
Interesting you bring up the biblical names, hadn't noticed.Micah is one of the lesser known prophets in the old testament. He's mainly concerned with justice, socail justice, corrupt leaders and things of the sort and invisions a time of peace later.

God does not seek burnt offerings for sins, but that people do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with God (6:6-8).

This seems to fit with the character of Micah, he's very concerned about the well being of his mother and what the right thing to do is.

Peter is obviously one of the more famous christian leaders of the early church. Called the rock upon which Christ would found his church (or something to the extent) Peter was a leader in the early church.

Peter in the show seems to fall into the this role of leader, trying to bring people together for good.

Isaac was the son of Abraham and was to be sacrificed on the mountain to prove abraham's devotion before God stopped him and gave him a ram instead. Later in life he was tricked into marrying the wrong sister, became a very wealth farmer, and when about to die blessed the wrong (younger) son.

I don't really see any connection with Isaac from the show, but maybe something will appear...
How about adding Gabriel "Sylar" Lewis---------------

ASIDE

Remember a few pages ago there were rumours that Sean Bean (Boromir) was going to be cast as Sylar?

Check this out...

From Sean Bean's IMDB page...

Tell Me That You Love Me (1991) (TV) .... Gabriel Lewis

Yikes.

 
They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
I think it's the genetic mutation that Sylar believes makes people broken. It looks like Sylar's initial power was to see how things work. He sees what is making the telekinesis possible and it is obviously something he can use on/for himself.
Good points...perhaps he can pinpoint the exact part of their brain gives them their powers and just carves out that piece.
 
They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
I think it's the genetic mutation that Sylar believes makes people broken. It looks like Sylar's initial power was to see how things work. He sees what is making the telekinesis possible and it is obviously something he can use on/for himself.
Good points...perhaps he can pinpoint the exact part of their brain gives them their powers and just carves out that piece.
Hmm.. I thought we were shown empty skulls of his victims at some point, indicating he took the whole brain...
 
4) Lots of Biblical names. Peter, Isaac, Micah. Doesn't Micah save the world in the old testament? Not sure on that one
Interesting you bring up the biblical names, hadn't noticed.Micah is one of the lesser known prophets in the old testament. He's mainly concerned with justice, socail justice, corrupt leaders and things of the sort and invisions a time of peace later.

God does not seek burnt offerings for sins, but that people do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with God (6:6-8).

This seems to fit with the character of Micah, he's very concerned about the well being of his mother and what the right thing to do is.

Peter is obviously one of the more famous christian leaders of the early church. Called the rock upon which Christ would found his church (or something to the extent) Peter was a leader in the early church.

Peter in the show seems to fall into the this role of leader, trying to bring people together for good.

Isaac was the son of Abraham and was to be sacrificed on the mountain to prove abraham's devotion before God stopped him and gave him a ram instead. Later in life he was tricked into marrying the wrong sister, became a very wealth farmer, and when about to die blessed the wrong (younger) son.

I don't really see any connection with Isaac from the show, but maybe something will appear...
How about adding Gabriel "Sylar" Lewis---------------

ASIDE

Remember a few pages ago there were rumours that Sean Bean (Boromir) was going to be cast as Sylar?

Check this out...

From Sean Bean's IMDB page...

Tell Me That You Love Me (1991) (TV) .... Gabriel Lewis

Yikes.
Gabriel
n Abrahamic religions, Gabriel (גַּבְרִיאֵל, Standard Hebrew Gavriʼel, Latin Gabrielus, Greek Γαβριήλ, Tiberian Hebrew Gaḇrîʼēl, Arabic جبريل Jibrīl or Jibrail, literally "Master, of God", i.e., a Master, who is "of God") is an archangel who is thought to serve as a messenger from God ("angel" literally translates to "messenger" from the Koine Greek; an "arch" angel is a "primary" or "chief" messenger). He first appears in the Book of Daniel in the Hebrew Bible. He was also referred to as the "Left Hand of God".[citation needed] Christians believe him to have foretold the births of John the Baptist and Jesus. In Islam, he is the medium through which God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad.

In Biblical tradition, he is sometimes regarded as the angel of death, the prince of fire and thunder, but more frequently as one of God's chief messengers. The Talmud described him as the only angel that can speak Syriac and Chaldee. In Islam, Gabriel is one of God's chief messengers but other above mentioned titles are not given to him (for example the angel of death is Azrael).

In the Catholic Tradition, he is known as one of the archangels. In Islam, he is called the chief of the four favoured angels and the spirit of truth, and in some views Gabriel is the same person as the Holy Spirit. Gabriel also finds mention in the writings of the Bahá'í Faith, most notably in Bahá'u'lláh's metaphysical work The Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys.
 
Also then where did the Paul come from in Sylars name. I could have sworn I saw an article a few episodes back about the birth of paul E. Sylar in the sixties,it was when Mohinder found that hidden compartment in the drawer...which would mean that this Gabriel would be a phony and theres another one out there.

 
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So Nathan agrees to take money from the guy that had him run off the road and cripples his wife?

:thumbdown:

Particularly when they portray him in this episode as someone with such high morals.

 
They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
I think it's the genetic mutation that Sylar believes makes people broken. It looks like Sylar's initial power was to see how things work. He sees what is making the telekinesis possible and it is obviously something he can use on/for himself.
I agree. I think he removes their brains to see what "makes them tick" as far as their abilities go. Then he can "alter" his own brain structure/thought patterns to use the abilities himself. He takes the brains so he can tinker around with them and find out their secrets.My biggest question at this point is what is causing these mutations to suddenly kick in? From last night's episode, it doesn't appear to be tied to one "cosmic" event. It appears that each invidiviual comes into his/her own powers on their own time. Suddenly the gene just "turns on" and they start discovering their abilities.I'm still also wondering if we will ever discover "patient zero" that they refered to in the first episode. Does anyone think that person is alive somewhere?
 
Also then where did the Paul come from in Sylars name. I could have sworn I saw an article a few episodes back about the birth of paul E. Sylar in the sixties,it was when Mohinder found that hidden compartment in the drawer...which would mean that this Gabriel would be a phony and theres another one out there.
The envelope in the drawer had nothing to do with Sylar.
 
So Nathan agrees to take money from the guy that had him run off the road and cripples his wife? :thumbdown: Particularly when they portray him in this episode as someone with such high morals.
Because he becomes a politician and we all know Power trumps morals everytime when it comes to "those" type of people.It's a stretch but I'm going with it.
 
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So how did Eden get turned off?

Was it the Haitian?

And if it was, how does that explain Nathan being able to fly away when he was being chased by him and HRG?

 
So how did Eden get turned off? Was it the Haitian?And if it was, how does that explain Nathan being able to fly away when he was being chased by him and HRG?
My thoughts on that is he needs time to do it. Nathan flying away was unexpected and the Haitian didn't have time to "shut off" his powers.
 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.

Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers

 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
I still think he's absorbing someone else's dream power.....just not sure who's. Maybe the wife?
 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
Or had just absorbed some dream power earlier. Thereby making it the first appearance of his power which fit in with the whole theme of last nights episode.As far as the trigger, Im wondering if it has something to do with Hiro first using his power. It would play into Hiro's space time continuum fears, but maybe talking to himself on the phone created a rift that started everything rolling.
 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
When this happened I started to think about who Peter had been in contact with that might have had that ability...Nathan's wife? His Mother?
 
Superman96 said:
He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.
I don't think she was dying from the blood clot when she died the first time. The fact she told Hiro she had the blood clot only served to show that, while he could alter history to some extent, he couldn't prevent someone from dying ... ie, if he was able to teleport back again, she might have been hit by a car.
 
Superman96 said:
He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.
I don't think she was dying from the blood clot when she died the first time. The fact she told Hiro she had the blood clot only served to show that, while he could alter history to some extent, he couldn't prevent someone from dying ... ie, if he was able to teleport back again, she might have been hit by a car.
I would really like to see what else happened during that time when Hiro was with her in the "past". I would imagine they had some conversation where it was decided he would let Sylar kill her to keep hiro's identity, and ability secret from Sylar. This will probably prove important later.Also, Hiro is becoming noticably more proficient at speaking English, as well as with his abilities. I think he's been spending more time than has been shown in the past, which would explain his rapidly improving grasp on the english language. He's not all that far from being the future Hiro that spoke to Peter.
 
So how did Eden get turned off? Was it the Haitian?And if it was, how does that explain Nathan being able to fly away when he was being chased by him and HRG?
Maybe the Hatian has to be completely concentrating to turn someone off. When Nathan flew away he was walking backwards and They were walking towards him. Might have been too much for the hatian to do at once.About Peter, the only one we've been introduced to with dream ability is the boy in India.People have had these abilities for more than 6 months. Claire's parents were "killed" by Bennett when she was a baby. She's now what, 17 or 18?
 
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Also then where did the Paul come from in Sylars name. I could have sworn I saw an article a few episodes back about the birth of paul E. Sylar in the sixties,it was when Mohinder found that hidden compartment in the drawer...which would mean that this Gabriel would be a phony and theres another one out there.
It was a clipping Mohinder found in Suresh's apartment in NY.
 
Superman96 said:
Sundays Rule said:
Foosball God said:
Superman96 said:
Sundays Rule said:
They still havent explained how Sylar is stealing people powers....does it have to do with his clock tinkering powers?
It must.Right before he walked around behind and killed him, he looked him right in the face and quickly the camera angle looked like it was through one of those magnifying eyeglass things people use to work on really small things.Then the guy said he didn't want these powers.Then Sylar said to him, oh right you're broken. And then smote him, as if killing him (IMO) fixed him (the victim).Who else did he kill this way then...He killed Hiro's girlfriend, but she was dying.Also killed Jackie the cheerleader, thinking it was Claire. Maybe something is actually wrong with Claire too?Who else?
I think it's the genetic mutation that Sylar believes makes people broken. It looks like Sylar's initial power was to see how things work. He sees what is making the telekinesis possible and it is obviously something he can use on/for himself.
Good points...perhaps he can pinpoint the exact part of their brain gives them their powers and just carves out that piece.
Hmm.. I thought we were shown empty skulls of his victims at some point, indicating he took the whole brain...
I assume he takes the whole brain to get out of there quick, but is only interested in a part of it. It does seem he studies it to understand the power. Eating it would have been much cooler. :mellow:
 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
When this happened I started to think about who Peter had been in contact with that might have had that ability...Nathan's wife? His Mother?
What about the old guy he was taking care of? Didn't he have some dream power? Maybe it was his first day on the job that day.
 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
When this happened I started to think about who Peter had been in contact with that might have had that ability...Nathan's wife? His Mother?
What about the old guy he was taking care of? Didn't he have some dream power? Maybe it was his first day on the job that day.
Oh yeah. I forgot about him.Simone's dad.Didn't we think she had some power too. Nothing has come of that yet.
 
If the book was his he would recognize it when he saw it later (er...earlier...damn time travel)One thing that I wondered about was that she says he is cute when his cheeks wobble when he concentrates. I didn't see him do any concentrating around her. The main time you see that is when he uses his powers. Does she see him use his powers in the past?Maybe he meets her in the past, and proves his power to her. Gives her the book, teaches her "You are sweet" but tells her to not mess with the timeline too much and act like she doesn't know him. I'm sure he leaves out her de-braining.
So did Hiro instruct her not to recognize him, or did she think that up herself? Or because she knows she is going to die (she assumes from the blood clot) she decides to pretend not to know him so she can spare him the pain.
 
People have had these abilities for more than 6 months. Claire's parents were "killed" by Bennett when she was a baby. She's now what, 17 or 18?
Mohinder's lady friend from the genetics lab is most likely part of the equation here.I'm guessing something triggers the brain response in folks, possibly microwave-based since it's on a global scale, although I'm not sure how the implant markings on Parkman's neck (and also the Pyro guy) fit into this. My guess is HRG's lab had them implanted for tracking purposes after they were abducted and blacked out.
 
Further speculation on Sylar. I really don't think he is eating the brains, I think he is studying them. If you buy into the theory that something in the brain is different for the heroes (my last post about the computer program) then he would need to study them to find out what.He was working with Mohinder's dad at one point. Maybe he has learned some tricks on how to unlock powers by manipulating the brain, but he needs to study the brains of people with powers so that he knows where to start.I think he had brains in jars at his apartment.
:thumbup: I think Sylar does have power. He was on the list for a reason. I think his power is the ability to figure out how things work. How else does he figure out what is going on in the brain so quickly, and also how to manipulate his own brain. Presumably he doesn't have previous knowledge about brains.
 
I hope we haven't seen the last of Charlie the waitress, either in flashbacks (likely) or in an alternate reality where she's still alive, or where Hiro has managed to save her (unlikely).

She and Hiro had good chemistry, and I'd like things to work out well for the two of them. And she did have a superpower, one which was never utilized to anyone's benefit on the show...yet.

 
One other thing of interest from the show. Peter had dreamed about his brothers car accident and knew there was another car involved.Peter obviously has a link to his brother and a power other than just absorbing other peoples powers
When this happened I started to think about who Peter had been in contact with that might have had that ability...Nathan's wife? His Mother?
What about the old guy he was taking care of? Didn't he have some dream power? Maybe it was his first day on the job that day.
Oh yeah. I forgot about him.Simone's dad.Didn't we think she had some power too. Nothing has come of that yet.
Great points. First of all, if Peter and Nathan both have powers, then one or both of their parents do. We know that their mom told Peter that their dad had weird feelings that he was special, so their mom might not have anything like that. She never said anything about herself.I may have to watch the dream thing again with Simone's dad. If somehow he kicked off the dream in Peter because of a hidden power he had, then Simone will definitely end up being special.I liked last night's episode a lot more than last week's. Seemed like it got back to the good story telling. I think they hyped last week's "battle" too much and it is was underwhelming.
 
If the book was his he would recognize it when he saw it later (er...earlier...damn time travel)One thing that I wondered about was that she says he is cute when his cheeks wobble when he concentrates. I didn't see him do any concentrating around her. The main time you see that is when he uses his powers. Does she see him use his powers in the past?Maybe he meets her in the past, and proves his power to her. Gives her the book, teaches her "You are sweet" but tells her to not mess with the timeline too much and act like she doesn't know him. I'm sure he leaves out her de-braining.
So did Hiro instruct her not to recognize him, or did she think that up herself? Or because she knows she is going to die (she assumes from the blood clot) she decides to pretend not to know him so she can spare him the pain.
She didn't know him the first time we saw them in the restraunt. It's one of those time/space things that can make your brain go :loco: if you think to hard.Think about Back to the Future.. Marty meets his parents, yet they don't remeber Calvin looking just like their son.
 
I know this is a reach but I have 2 very far-fetched plot twists...

1) Charlie is dead when Hiro returns but she died from the bloodclot and not Sylar (we never saw her head get cut open after he went back into time).

2) Sylar did kill Charlie anyway and took her brain to study it. However, he doesn't know she had a bloodclot and in transfering the power/restructuring his brain (whatever he does to aquire the abilities), he gives himself the bloodclot thinking it's part of the ability.

 
I liked last night's episode a lot more than last week's. Seemed like it got back to the good story telling. I think they hyped last week's "battle" too much and it is was underwhelming.
:yes: They saved the cheerleader, but we don't know yet how that has saved the world. We won't find that out until sometime in early 2007, since next week's episode is the last ep for 2006.
 
If the book was his he would recognize it when he saw it later (er...earlier...damn time travel)One thing that I wondered about was that she says he is cute when his cheeks wobble when he concentrates. I didn't see him do any concentrating around her. The main time you see that is when he uses his powers. Does she see him use his powers in the past?Maybe he meets her in the past, and proves his power to her. Gives her the book, teaches her "You are sweet" but tells her to not mess with the timeline too much and act like she doesn't know him. I'm sure he leaves out her de-braining.
So did Hiro instruct her not to recognize him, or did she think that up herself? Or because she knows she is going to die (she assumes from the blood clot) she decides to pretend not to know him so she can spare him the pain.
She didn't know him the first time we saw them in the restraunt. It's one of those time/space things that can make your brain go :loco: if you think to hard.Think about Back to the Future.. Marty meets his parents, yet they don't remeber Calvin looking just like their son.
She knew his cheeks wobbled even though she had only seen him do it in the past. She also knew the "You are sweet" phrase that was not in the book, presumably Hiro taught it to her in the past.
 
Further speculation on Sylar. I really don't think he is eating the brains, I think he is studying them. If you buy into the theory that something in the brain is different for the heroes (my last post about the computer program) then he would need to study them to find out what.He was working with Mohinder's dad at one point. Maybe he has learned some tricks on how to unlock powers by manipulating the brain, but he needs to study the brains of people with powers so that he knows where to start.I think he had brains in jars at his apartment.
:thumbup: I think Sylar does have power. He was on the list for a reason. I think his power is the ability to figure out how things work. How else does he figure out what is going on in the brain so quickly, and also how to manipulate his own brain. Presumably he doesn't have previous knowledge about brains.
Don't pat yourself on the back too much. ;) Seeing as he removed the brains, we definitely knew he was using/studying them to help himself. We also saw with Sylar's room that he had the same map, so he had to have been working with Mohinder's dad. Mohinder's dad is definitely wary of him based on last night, but since he has a power, he probably continued to work with him until Sylar got angry enough to kill him.I absolutely agree that his precision/tinkering abilities are a power that allows him to gain powers he didn't actually have, like the telekinetic abilities last night. I don't know if they will ever show us exactly how he tinkers himself, but I can't see how it isn't an ability. No way a normal person can look at a brain and get those powers. The whole building a watch was a clue into his power and don't forget the genetic link to his dad who also worked with watches.I still don't think that this is a random genetic mutation although with seeing Mohinder's dad it sure seems to be. I just don't see how he could get lists of people without knowing about a starting event that kicked off something in say the parents of the heroes we see now.
 
I know this is a reach but I have 2 very far-fetched plot twists...1) Charlie is dead when Hiro returns but she died from the bloodclot and not Sylar (we never saw her head get cut open after he went back into time).2) Sylar did kill Charlie anyway and took her brain to study it. However, he doesn't know she had a bloodclot and in transfering the power/restructuring his brain (whatever he does to aquire the abilities), he gives himself the bloodclot thinking it's part of the ability.
Good theories, but I still think the bloodclot angle was only utilized in the jump sequence to show Hiro that, despite his abilities, he's not able to prevent someone's death once it's already happened on the main thread.It's simply her time to check out.She stays at the diner, Syler gets her.He keeps her away from the diner, she dies of bloodclot.She goes to the movies, she chokes on popcorn.Ad nauseam ....
 
If the book was his he would recognize it when he saw it later (er...earlier...damn time travel)One thing that I wondered about was that she says he is cute when his cheeks wobble when he concentrates. I didn't see him do any concentrating around her. The main time you see that is when he uses his powers. Does she see him use his powers in the past?Maybe he meets her in the past, and proves his power to her. Gives her the book, teaches her "You are sweet" but tells her to not mess with the timeline too much and act like she doesn't know him. I'm sure he leaves out her de-braining.
So did Hiro instruct her not to recognize him, or did she think that up herself? Or because she knows she is going to die (she assumes from the blood clot) she decides to pretend not to know him so she can spare him the pain.
I don't think you can assume that she did recognize Hiro when he showed up in the diner. It seemed to me that Hiro couldn't exist in the same place at the same time. He warped away to the rooftop in Japan unexpectedly, which most likely coincided with the time when he first arrived at the diner. Then he couldn't warp back to the diner to save Charlie and was forced instead to warp to a nearby town and take a bus to get to Ando. I got the impression that they were implying that if Hiro witnesses something happening then it can't be undone. Of course since we're dealing with time travel here I'm sure their are a ton of holes in that theory.
 
I like that Sylar is a watch repairman, yet he walks around with a broken watch.

When he killed Dr. Suresh, maybe that was the moment he let go of any last sembleage of the person he was, he is all Sylar, all the time, from that point forward.

 
We still don't know what caused all of these heroes to suddenly have certain powers. How did Sylar know that Brian Davis was "broken" and how did he know that he could use his power by taking his brain?

6 months ago it seems like the heroes were just realizing they had some kind of power, but Eden (girl in the sports car that Parkman pulled over) was well aware that she had the power of suggestion.

It's kinda confusing still. How did Mr. Bennett come across Eden? How did Chandra Suresh find the names of those who he thinks have a power?

 
How did Mr. Bennett come across Eden? How did Chandra Suresh find the names of those who he thinks have a power?
Genetics lab will likely answer both of those questions, and I think both Bennett and Mohinder's lady friend work for the same global company.
 

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