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[dlos]

Now, Peter could get the radiation poison at a later date before he is able to control it... thus BOOM!! in New York... but we have not seen Peter and Radia Man in the same place at all... Texas or New York.

Ted is currently en-route to NY with Parkman to stop the "company" with HRG. Peter lives in NY.Coincidence?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

No matter what Hiro does the main timeline of New York being blown up will happen. Who will do it though? Sylar or Peter?

This is it. Timeline X = Sylar blowing up New York.Timeline X+1 = Peter blowing up New York.When Hiro goes back to meet Peter in the subway he should have gone back to kill Claire instead. Neither would get the regen power by doing this. Of course this makes Hiro a killer.

I disagree. I think it's always Peter blowing up NY. Regardless of Claire being killed I think Sylar still becomes Nathan, Peter still blows up. One thing to remember Peter doesn't master powers right away, Sylar does at least IMO. I think the twist will be that Peter must die to save NYC.

If I am remembering event correctly, Peter picks up the Radiation poison after saving Claire. He also picks it up in Texas and not his home state of New York. Why would Peter go to Texas if it was not to save Claire to begin with? Peter does not get tipped off to saving Claire unless Hiro tells him. Therefore, no Hiro intervention means Peter does not get the regen or radiation. Peter is jump some guy dreaming of flying in New York.Now, Peter could get the radiation poison at a later date before he is able to control it... thus BOOM!! in New York... but we have not seen Peter and Radia Man in the same place at all... Texas or New York.

Right, the radiation power and Claire don't have anything to do with each other. Hiro sends Peter to save Claire specifically to keep Sylar from getting her power. He believes that without her power, Sylar will die when he stabs him. At some point in all of the timelines, Peter has to come into contact with Ted and will gain the radiation powers.

 

[iamsmilin]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

 

[Buckychudd]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I wondered this as well, my explanation is that Parkman was a mid level DOHS employee and didn't interact directly with the President of the United States.

 

[dlos]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

 

[Joseph]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I wondered this as well, my explanation is that Parkman was a mid level DOHS employee and didn't interact directly with the President of the United States.

They were referring to him as "Director Parkman" though. Probably not a midlevel anything.

 

[iamsmilin]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

 

[Foosball God]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

I disagree. He wasn't trying to read the mind of the little under the stairs.

 

[shadyridr]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I honestly think this is just a plot hole.

 

[Foosball God]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I honestly think this is just a plot hole.

Or Parkman knows but doesn't care. Parkman was not a "good guy" anymore at that point.

 

[dlos]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I honestly think this is just a plot hole.

Or Parkman knows but doesn't care. Parkman was not a "good guy" anymore at that point.

There is a difference between a "good guy" and not caring if a murdering psychopath is president.Besides, he was all hot about catching Sylar earlier.

 

[dlos]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

 

[Foosball God]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

I honestly think this is just a plot hole.

Or Parkman knows but doesn't care. Parkman was not a "good guy" anymore at that point.

There is a difference between a "good guy" and not caring if a murdering psychopath is president.Besides, he was all hot about catching Sylar earlier.

Well, considering he murdered HRG in that timeline I'm not sure he is all that good.

 

[Drifter]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

 

[dlos]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

 

[Challenge Everything]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

 

[dlos]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

Then in theory shouldn't the Haitian have cancelled out Sylar's ability to change his appearance?

 

[KGB]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

The haitian has skillz. Also parkman could have started good, been tricked into thinking "sylars way" is good, thus turning bad, then changing back to good when he sticks the haitian.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

Then in theory shouldn't the Haitian have cancelled out Sylar's ability to change his appearance?

Not if the Haitian can direct his powers, I guess.Also, Sylar took the powers of people through unnatural causes. Peter takes them naturally. To me that is a big difference.

 

[Foosball God]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is. I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

The haitian has skillz. Also parkman could have started good, been tricked into thinking "sylars way" is good, thus turning bad, then changing back to good when he sticks the haitian.

Parkman doesn't stick the Haitian, Mohinder does. Parkman is still trying to bust in there and kill Hiro.

 

[iamsmilin]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is.

I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?

Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

:(

The haitian has skillz.

Also parkman could have started good, been tricked into thinking "sylars way" is good, thus turning bad, then changing back to good when he sticks the haitian.

Parkman doesn't stick the Haitian, Mohinder does. Parkman is still trying to bust in there and kill Hiro.

Which was wierd to me. He kept trying to kill Hiro and follow orders when he saw Sylar pull out Peter. Wouldn't he have noticed the change back?

 

[Foosball God]

Which was wierd to me. He kept trying to kill Hiro and follow orders when he saw Sylar pull out Peter. Wouldn't he have noticed the change back?

Which just strengthens my theory that Parkman knew that it was Sylar, not Nathan.

 

[iamsmilin]

Which was wierd to me. He kept trying to kill Hiro and follow orders when he saw Sylar pull out Peter. Wouldn't he have noticed the change back?

Which just strengthens my theory that Parkman knew that it was Sylar, not Nathan.

:(

 

[s_ezy]

Which was wierd to me. He kept trying to kill Hiro and follow orders when he saw Sylar pull out Peter. Wouldn't he have noticed the change back?

Which just strengthens my theory that Parkman knew that it was Sylar, not Nathan.

Parkman knowing it was Sylar makes sense, if he didn't want to have his brain removed then he should step in line

 

[Chuck Cecil]

A few things/thoughts/questions, some already brought up:1. The scar on Peter doesn't really make sense to me unless he didn't save Claire, which he did. Whatever, the scar seems likely to have come from Hiro and his sword.

What if Peter got his scar when his was in the presense of the Haitian so his powers would not work. Thus when he would get injured he would not be able to regen and would have the scar. I agree it looks to have come from Hiro's sword.

 

[stbugs]

Which was wierd to me. He kept trying to kill Hiro and follow orders when he saw Sylar pull out Peter. Wouldn't he have noticed the change back?

Which just strengthens my theory that Parkman knew that it was Sylar, not Nathan.

Parkman knowing it was Sylar makes sense, if he didn't want to have his brain removed then he should step in line

I will need to watch it again, but I thought Parkman shot future Hiro before Sylar changed his appearance. Pretty sure he turned around and looked when Peter and Sylar got all charged up. I don't think we saw him do anything after that, just Mohinder trying to hold the door while the flashes were going on outside the room.I have no idea if Parkment knows Sylar was Nathan or not. We also don't know when Nathan got whacked by Sylar. I would be extremely surprised if Sylar as Nathan could have acted politiciany enough to get elected President. Sylar could have escaped the bomb and waited until Nathan's victory was in the bag. From Isaac's painting, Sylar could have easily known that Nathan would somehow become President. He may have taken over soon after the bombing, but I think it would be a stretch for someone as evil as Sylar to come across as well as I am sure Nathan could have after a tragedy like that. I could easily see Nathan launching from the tragedy to the President, but not Sylar as Nathan.

 

[KGB]

Dont know if it was confirmed yet but watching the show again on NBC.com near the end of Part 4 when Parkman turns on HRG... just before they switch over the Claire it sounds like a gunshot goes off. Question is did Parkman kill HRG? HRG sounds like he quietly says "no" but that could be in reference to Parkman finding out where Claire is too.

I think we're meant to believe that Parkman killed HRG. Since it is in the future that they are still trying to change it doesn't matter much, other than to show Parkman for the weak sauce that he is.

I thought one of the best things about the episode was how it showed the characters dealing with the adveristy they faced after the explosion. Hiro really stepped up, Peter came around when they needed him, and HRG was fighting the good fight, while Parkman and the Hatian were following Nathan (they thought) down a dark path.

My question, and I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but how did Parkman not know Sylar was pretending to be Nathan. He's a mind reader.

But he does seem to have to be trying to do it. I don't think it's like Mel Gibson in "What women want" where he just hears them, he has to try to hear them.

Actually don't you remember the scene in the Store where he was over whelmed by voices?

Also, if he is MIddle management, he wouldn't have a direct line to Sylar.

OK, I retract my statement.

He actually speaks with Nathan/Sylar on the phone at one point, so not having a direct line is out.

Weren't they both in Isaac's apartment at one point when Mohinder cuts the Sylar string and it all falls to the floor?

Possible link is that Parkman was with the Haitian most of the time... he could have prevented Parkman from reading Nathan's mind as the Haitian was always closer to that family than he was with Parkman... in theory.

The haitian has skillz.

Also parkman could have started good, been tricked into thinking "sylars way" is good, thus turning bad, then changing back to good when he sticks the haitian.

Parkman doesn't stick the Haitian, Mohinder does. Parkman is still trying to bust in there and kill Hiro.

 

[rascal]

IMO...

Obviously Peter won't go nuclear, and Hiro "kills" Sylar, so it looks like Linderman's plans are done.

But Linderman takes Sylar and heals him and wants him to go nuclear, but Sylar kills him in the last episode leaving a cliff hanger for next year.

And Sylar killing Linderman will bring Sylar and Jessica/Nikki and company together for a rumble.

 

[Fiddles]

I don't say this lightly....But, that had to be one of the BEST hours of television I have seen in a LONG TIME. It made me really appreciate how good some of the actors are in this show.

im just catching up on this thread after watching on tivo last night i would agree that some of the acting is very good (hiro, ando, peter, nathan)but the actor playing parkman was so awful i was cringingseriously bad acting therei hope they kill him offactually i would like dl, jessica, and parkman to all get offed this season

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I don't say this lightly....

But, that had to be one of the BEST hours of television I have seen in a LONG TIME. It made me really appreciate how good some of the actors are in this show.

im just catching up on this thread after watching on tivo last night i would agree that some of the acting is very good (hiro, ando, peter, nathan)

but the actor playing parkman was so awful i was cringing

seriously bad acting there

i hope they kill him off

actually i would like dl, jessica, and parkman to all get offed this season

I can't stand Parkman.

They can keep Jessica around if she'll dance like she did this week in every episode.

 

[Verbal Kint]

If people are giving Heroes flack about "ripping off" X-men, what if Lost explains their whole show on multiple realities/timelines, as Heroes is clearly using?The Godfather movies didn't have a copyright on the Mafia genre, and no one accusses Goodfellas or Sopranos as being rip-offs. So X-Men might be the first/best of the mutant genre, but it doesn't mean Heroes is "ripping it off."

If I recall, there was some hint in the pilot referencing X-men comic # 143 which was the beginning of the Days of Future Past arc. At least they give credit where due.

 

[Foosball God]

If people are giving Heroes flack about "ripping off" X-men, what if Lost explains their whole show on multiple realities/timelines, as Heroes is clearly using?The Godfather movies didn't have a copyright on the Mafia genre, and no one accusses Goodfellas or Sopranos as being rip-offs. So X-Men might be the first/best of the mutant genre, but it doesn't mean Heroes is "ripping it off."

If the Goodfellas or Sopranos showed someone waking up with a severed horse head next to them in bed then people would talk about them ripping off the Godfather.The specific legislation to catalog and contain mutants is a rip off of X-Men. I'm not saying it's not a logical line to follow, but it still immediately relates back to X-Men.

 

[Wheelhouse]

No matter what Hiro does the main timeline of New York being blown up will happen. Who will do it though? Sylar or Peter?

This is it. Timeline X = Sylar blowing up New York.

Timeline X+1 = Peter blowing up New York.

When Hiro goes back to meet Peter in the subway he should have gone back to kill Claire instead. Neither would get the regen power by doing this. Of course this makes Hiro a killer.

I think that the writers want to avoid an easy "out" like that. They showed it when Hiro went back in time to save the waitress. He couldn't and "got punished" for trying by losing some of his abilities. I think the writers have laid down a simple rule: For future Hiro to change the past, he must get someone from that time to do it for it to have an effect. Which is why he needs past Hiro to kill Sylar. Any thoughts?

Great conclusion here. I think future Hiro figured this out. He can't go back or forward in time to stop any one event, he has to find someone else that can stop it. Hence the reason for future Hiro visiting Peter on the subway telling him to save the Cheerleader - save the world. Present Hiro hasn't figured this out yet.

 

[packersfan]

what are nathan/peter's mom special powers BTW?

Someone mentioned the prophetic dreams that Peter had.I think that might be

Speaking of Nathan....what ever happened to his hottie wife?

She's still in holding at CTU.

 

[pantherclub]

How did Nikki get rid of Jessica?

 

[UOFI_316]

How did Nikki get rid of Jessica?

Jessica's big thing was to do whatever it took to protect Micah. Micah died in the exposion, no reason for Jessica to hang around anymore.

 

[pantherclub]

Dont you mean nikkis big thing was to protect micah?

 

[EYLive]

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[TheFanatic]

Game day bump

 

[Tecumseh]

Don't know if yo guys covered this;

Apparently Sylar's mom is uber-religious.

Sylar's real name= Gabriel

From Wiki:

In Biblical tradition, he is sometimes regarded as the angel of death or one of God's messengers. The Talmud described him as the only angel who can speak Syriac and Chaldee. In Islam, Gabriel is one of God's chief messengers but other above mentioned titles are not given to him (for example the angel of death is Azrael).

In the Catholic Tradition, he is known as one of the archangels. In Islam, he is called the chief of the four favoured angels and the spirit of truth, and in some views Gabriel is the same person as the Holy Spirit. Gabriel also finds mention in the writings of the Bahá'í Faith, most notably in Bahá'u'lláh's metaphysical work The Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys.

Angel of Death??

 

[Tecumseh]

1. Nathan is turning out to be quite a little #####. Good god, man, make your own decisions!!

2. Two hour finale. Awesome.

 

[bryhamm]

1. Nathan is turning out to be quite a little #####. Good god, man, make your own decisions!!2. Two hour finale. Awesome.

Looks good next week.

 

[Buckychudd]

So does Sylar have some sort of power cancelling ability, or did Hiro just lose his concentration?

 

[fsufan]

best show I have ever watched

 

[bryhamm]

So does Sylar have some sort of power cancelling ability, or did Hiro just lose his concentration?

 

[benztoronto]

So does Sylar have some sort of power cancelling ability, or did Hiro just lose his concentration?

Maybe it was Hiro's conscience.

 

[s_ezy]

So does Sylar have some sort of power cancelling ability, or did Hiro just lose his concentration?

it seemed like hiro let time resume and then sylar shifted his eyes and grabbed the sword etc..

 

[Foosball God]

Kind of a weak episode really. I guess it was just setup for the finale.

 

[SuperJohn96]

If people are giving Heroes flack about "ripping off" X-men, what if Lost explains their whole show on multiple realities/timelines, as Heroes is clearly using?The Godfather movies didn't have a copyright on the Mafia genre, and no one accusses Goodfellas or Sopranos as being rip-offs. So X-Men might be the first/best of the mutant genre, but it doesn't mean Heroes is "ripping it off."

If the Goodfellas or Sopranos showed someone waking up with a severed horse head next to them in bed then people would talk about them ripping off the Godfather.The specific legislation to catalog and contain mutants is a rip off of X-Men. I'm not saying it's not a logical line to follow, but it still immediately relates back to X-Men.

Yeah, I am not complaining, but this completely smacks of the Mutant Registration Act.And heading into a commercial break tonight, it said that the show's creator Tim Kring has never read a comic book before creating Heroes. He apparently has some sort of reading disorder, and the speech bubbles confuse him...or something to that effect.Sounds like lawyer speak to me...LOL.But seriously, why has Marvel never bothered to put out a tv series like this before...

 

[Twilight]

But seriously, why has Marvel never bothered to put out a tv series like this before...

Other super hero series have been tried, but this came at the right point for Serial TV, thanx to the groundbreaking of Lost's & 24's success. Without Lost or 24, they would have had to turn this into a Monster of the Week type show, and it wouldn't have worked half as well. Anything more than a couple of powers would have been too difficult to introduce in limited weekly stories. This, as a essentially 25 hour movie, allows some more storytelling to take place.Combine that with a better quality of writing team not specifically aiming at young comic reading teens, and you have the solid show that has come together.As for this week, I'll echo that is was rather weak as a stand alone ep, but it sets the stage nicely for the big ending.It did confirm that Mama Patrelli is one of Lindeman's old allies he spoke of. And I just had this thought, especially with the tough decisions speech she gave. She killed Papa Patrelli somehow, or was complicit in his death. Papa was one of the allies that "turned against" Lindeman's plans, and he had to go. It just fits too well with that speech as something to find out later.And it seems that HRG, Parkman, and Ted were in NY to get Molly (The new locator system). I think there is more to it than that, but we might have to wait until next year for it.