***Official*** Heroes Thread (2 Viewers)

[apalmer]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

 

[Gatorman]

Count me as someone who thought it was a good episode. Knowing Sylar's motivation for what he is is pretty cool. As for Sylar going back into the timeline, either Hiro lost concentration or the blade touching Sylar (the set up before the kill) put sylar into the same plane as hiro.

As for the X men coincidences, I think that it was inevitable from the get go that some of this was going to mirror X men. In the end it is mutants with superpowers. The fact that they have been able to keep it to the level it is at and not go Magneto vs. Dr. X is what makes this show good. Most of the heroes intereact with each other but their motivations are personal ones.

Now if Claire get adamantium claws, then game over.

 

[SuperJohn96]

But seriously, why has Marvel never bothered to put out a tv series like this before...

Other super hero series have been tried, but this came at the right point for Serial TV, thanx to the groundbreaking of Lost's & 24's success. Without Lost or 24, they would have had to turn this into a Monster of the Week type show, and it wouldn't have worked half as well. Anything more than a couple of powers would have been too difficult to introduce in limited weekly stories. This, as a essentially 25 hour movie, allows some more storytelling to take place.Combine that with a better quality of writing team not specifically aiming at young comic reading teens, and you have the solid show that has come together.

As for this week, I'll echo that is was rather weak as a stand alone ep, but it sets the stage nicely for the big ending.

It did confirm that Mama Patrelli is one of Lindeman's old allies he spoke of. And I just had this thought, especially with the tough decisions speech she gave. She killed Papa Patrelli somehow, or was complicit in his death. Papa was one of the allies that "turned against" Lindeman's plans, and he had to go. It just fits too well with that speech as something to find out later.

And it seems that HRG, Parkman, and Ted were in NY to get Molly (The new locator system). I think there is more to it than that, but we might have to wait until next year for it.

I think this will turn out to be some solid prognosticating.(That, or possibly their Dad isn't really dead?)

 

[Peak]

But seriously, why has Marvel never bothered to put out a tv series like this before...

Other super hero series have been tried, but this came at the right point for Serial TV, thanx to the groundbreaking of Lost's & 24's success. Without Lost or 24, they would have had to turn this into a Monster of the Week type show, and it wouldn't have worked half as well. Anything more than a couple of powers would have been too difficult to introduce in limited weekly stories. This, as a essentially 25 hour movie, allows some more storytelling to take place.Combine that with a better quality of writing team not specifically aiming at young comic reading teens, and you have the solid show that has come together.

As for this week, I'll echo that is was rather weak as a stand alone ep, but it sets the stage nicely for the big ending.

It did confirm that Mama Patrelli is one of Lindeman's old allies he spoke of. And I just had this thought, especially with the tough decisions speech she gave. She killed Papa Patrelli somehow, or was complicit in his death. Papa was one of the allies that "turned against" Lindeman's plans, and he had to go. It just fits too well with that speech as something to find out later.

And it seems that HRG, Parkman, and Ted were in NY to get Molly (The new locator system). I think there is more to it than that, but we might have to wait until next year for it.

I think this will turn out to be some solid prognosticating.(That, or possibly their Dad isn't really dead?)

Like Suresh's sister....

 

[Skippy the one eyed Beagle]

But seriously, why has Marvel never bothered to put out a tv series like this before...

Other super hero series have been tried, but this came at the right point for Serial TV, thanx to the groundbreaking of Lost's & 24's success. Without Lost or 24, they would have had to turn this into a Monster of the Week type show, and it wouldn't have worked half as well. Anything more than a couple of powers would have been too difficult to introduce in limited weekly stories. This, as a essentially 25 hour movie, allows some more storytelling to take place.Combine that with a better quality of writing team not specifically aiming at young comic reading teens, and you have the solid show that has come together.As for this week, I'll echo that is was rather weak as a stand alone ep, but it sets the stage nicely for the big ending.It did confirm that Mama Patrelli is one of Lindeman's old allies he spoke of. And I just had this thought, especially with the tough decisions speech she gave. She killed Papa Patrelli somehow, or was complicit in his death. Papa was one of the allies that "turned against" Lindeman's plans, and he had to go. It just fits too well with that speech as something to find out later.And it seems that HRG, Parkman, and Ted were in NY to get Molly (The new locator system). I think there is more to it than that, but we might have to wait until next year for it.

so does mam patrelli have any powers?

 

[warlocks]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

 

[dlos]

Does anyone else think that the jacket that Sylar is wearing in the comic book looks an awful lot like the one Claire just got from Ma Petrelli?

Watching the part with Ma Petrelli and Nathan about doing what he needs to do, I kept waiting for it to be really Candice.

Peter cannot go nuclear now. He would kill everyone that we know is in the future.

Where the hell is the Haitian? Just stick him in the middle and nobody goes boom.

 

[shadyridr]

The scenes between Sylar and his mother were amazing.

 

[Buckychudd]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian. What do you think?

That was my take on it.

 

[apalmer]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

Maybe keeping Claire away is working with Linderman. She's the one that can stop Peter if he goes into explosion mode; if she's in Paris, boom.

 

[dlos]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

Maybe keeping Claire away is working with Linderman. She's the one that can stop Peter if he goes into explosion mode; if she's in Paris, boom.

How can Claire stop Peter from exploding?

 

[s_ezy]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian. What do you think?

That was my take on it.

samei said outloud, "hi candice, "

 

[apalmer]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

Maybe keeping Claire away is working with Linderman. She's the one that can stop Peter if he goes into explosion mode; if she's in Paris, boom.

How can Claire stop Peter from exploding?

Peter said it last night when he gave her the gun: "You're the only on who can get close enough and you know the spot to put the bullet in--the same place the piece of glass was."

 

[dlos]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

Maybe keeping Claire away is working with Linderman. She's the one that can stop Peter if he goes into explosion mode; if she's in Paris, boom.

How can Claire stop Peter from exploding?

Peter said it last night when he gave her the gun: "You're the only on who can get close enough and you know the spot to put the bullet in--the same place the piece of glass was."

Oh, right.

 

[s_ezy]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian.

What do you think?

Maybe keeping Claire away is working with Linderman. She's the one that can stop Peter if he goes into explosion mode; if she's in Paris, boom.

How can Claire stop Peter from exploding?

Peter said it last night when he gave her the gun: "You're the only on who can get close enough and you know the spot to put the bullet in--the same place the piece of glass was."

Oh, right.

why couldn't the explosion still trigger as hes dying?kinda like what happens down below when someone dies

 

[Gamblor]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian. What do you think?

That was my take on it.

samei said outloud, "hi candice, "

I disagree. I think this character of Candice is unfortunate, as this type of speculation could be said about every scene now. But from the last few episodes Ma Patrelli is right in line with the character last night. And assuming each episode they show us are the heroes at that aproximate time, Candace was in Vegas with Micah, not NY with Nathan.

 

[dlos]

I had assumed that that was NOT the real Mom Petrelli, but the chick who can make you see stuff. If Linderman got the call from Nathan that he was getting cold feet, it seemed logical to me that he would send over his gal to talk some sense into him. And with his knowledge base Linderman has, he could arm that woman with enough information to seem believable to Nathan. In some ways, I kinda thought Mom Petrelli couldn't be working with Linderman since she actively worked against him in hiding Claire and working with the Haitian. What do you think?

That was my take on it.

samei said outloud, "hi candice, "

I disagree. I think this character of Candice is unfortunate, as this type of speculation could be said about every scene now. But from the last few episodes Ma Patrelli is right in line with the character last night. And assuming each episode they show us are the heroes at that aproximate time, Candace was in Vegas with Micah, not NY with Nathan.

No, Candice and Micah ar in NY.But now that I think about it, I don't think it was her. She's on babysitting duty with Micah. I don't think she ever left the hotel. BTW, that was a cool trick she pulled on Micah, always leading him back.

 

[(HULK)]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities: 1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.Thats how I took it.

 

[shadyridr]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

 

[Drifter]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

 

[dlos]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

 

[Boone22]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

 

[Buckychudd]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

Speaking of this, why couldn't Linderman heal the girl?

 

[dlos]

This show goes to extreme measures to show us certain things that at the time seem meaningless but down the road were important clues. I can't get past a few things. In the comic book Sylar has serious stubble, last night they painstakingly showed us that he was clean shaven (I know it was to go see his mother, who I kept waiting to show some abilities). Another was the coat that Claire was given looks exactly like the one Sylar is wearing in the comic.

I'm getting the feeling that Hiro actually stabs Candice.

PS. The guy that plays Sylar is an incerdible actor, being able to pull off going from a pathetic watchmaker who only wants praise from his mother to a sadistic killer in that one scene where he was making the snow.

The look on Ted's face when Peter started glowing was priceless.

 

[dlos]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

Speaking of this, why couldn't Linderman heal the girl?

It's probably that he can heal "normal" ailments and injuries, but can do nothing when it comes to "mutant " sicknesses. Kinda like Superman only has powers away from Krypton. Pure speculation on my part.

 

[Drifter]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

Why did the U.S. government give the Indians blankets with Smallpox when they could have shot them? Disease is a much more effective method of genocide than hunting each one down individually. A disease that only targets the group you are trying to eliminate is even better.

 

[Boone22]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

Why did the U.S. government give the Indians blankets with Smallpox when they could have shot them? Disease is a much more effective method of genocide than hunting each one down individually. A disease that only targets the group you are trying to eliminate is even better.

True, but nobody mentioned that the disease the little girl had was mutant specific.

 

[dlos]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

Why did the U.S. government give the Indians blankets with Smallpox when they could have shot them? Disease is a much more effective method of genocide than hunting each one down individually. A disease that only targets the group you are trying to eliminate is even better.

True, but nobody mentioned that the disease the little girl had was mutant specific.

They implied it, when they said there had only been 1 other case know, and she was also a mutant.

 

[Foosball God]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

 

[dlos]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

 

[Foosball God]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

 

[Peak]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Possibly Mohinder is the "Antibody" to mutant disease. His ability is to rapidly produce antibodies that could either save or destroy mutant kind. Explains why his blood was full of the right antibodies to cure the little girl.ETA - Since Mohinder's father found the unique gene structure for mutant abilities, what if he used his children as guinea pigs in his testing? Perhaps Papa Suresh made his daughter ill by testing on her and then used his unborn son as a carrier of the antibody to correect his first mistake?

 

[dlos]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

I don't think all mutants are children of other mutants, however it does seem that all mutants' offspring are also mutants.

 

[Boone22]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Maybe I missed it but are we sure of this? I don't recall anyone saying that Mohinder's sister had a mutant ability.

 

[Foosball God]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

I don't think all mutants are children of other mutants, however it does seem that all mutants' offspring are also mutants.

I wonder if Hiro's sister has any powers.

 

[geoff8695]

Count me as someone who thought it was a good episode. Knowing Sylar's motivation for what he is is pretty cool. As for Sylar going back into the timeline, either Hiro lost concentration or the blade touching Sylar (the set up before the kill) put sylar into the same plane as hiro.As for the X men coincidences, I think that it was inevitable from the get go that some of this was going to mirror X men. In the end it is mutants with superpowers. The fact that they have been able to keep it to the level it is at and not go Magneto vs. Dr. X is what makes this show good. Most of the heroes intereact with each other but their motivations are personal ones.Now if Claire get adamantium claws, then game over.

@ Claire w/Wolverine claws

 

[shadyridr]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Was she?

 

[dlos]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Was she?

Yes.

 

[geoff8695]

I love how one faction seeking to destroy NYC (Lindeman & his associates) - and its opposing faction trying to stop NY from being destroyed (future Hiro and all those he has directly and indirectly influenced and sought out in order to alter the past), both seem to be basing their motives/actions on false assumptions.

Lindeman & Company (mistakenly) believe that Nathan will be POTUS and the future will be a better place for mutants and the world all because of a painting of Nathan in the Oval Office - but now we know that Sylar is the future President in the painting, meanwhile Momma Petrelli, and all of Lindeman's organization is striving to make sure that the bomb goes off "to save the world".

Future Hiro (mistakenly) believes that Sylar is the one who goes nuclear and therefore has gone back in time over and over to try make it possible to kill Sylar before he can nuke NY - but now we know that Peter is really the 'exploding man' because last week he told Jessica/Niki that the explosion was Peter and it's his fault that Micah dies not Sylar's, meanwhile Hiro and Ando blindly move forward in their quest to stop the explosion by killing Sylar.

 

[bigbottom]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

The point was to do it in such a way that it didn't appear to be intentional genocide. Say it's a a cure, and then, when they're all dying, Suresh tells the public that he made a terrible mistake. That was President Sylar's stated reason why he wanted to go the injection route.

 

[Boone22]

Molly's power is finding people and she's "the only one who can stop Sylar"? So far, finding him hasn't been the problem, so why is she so important? I see two possibilities:

1. Sylar kills Candice or the invisible man, thereby necessitating Molly's skills (but how do they know in advance that she'll be needed?).

2. The Company was just lying to get Suresh to save her. In reality, they don't want her for fighting Sylar, just for locating mutants after the Linderman laws are enacted. This seems like the more likely choice to me.

She's the only one who can locate all of the Heroes needed to stop Sylar if they gang up on him.She can locate them, and then find Sylar.

Thats how I took it.

This is the way I took it. They dont care about stopping Sylar. They just used it as an excuse to get Mohinder's help.

It's also possible, that in addition to her locating abilities, they want the virus that she was infected with. It could be a "final solution" for the mutants, which would be another way of stopping Sylar.

In the future Nathan/Sylar wanted Mohinder to kill Hiro with an injection of some kind. Could that have been the virus that they intensified?

Why go through all that trouble when only Claire, Peter, and Linderman can heal? All the other mutants would die from a simple gunshot wound or poison injection. Hell, even Sylar can be killed with a gunshot if someone got the drop on him. He doesn't have any regeneration powers yet.

The point was to do it in such a way that it didn't appear to be intentional genocide. Say it's a a cure, and then, when they're all dying, Suresh tells the public that he made a terrible mistake. That was President Sylar's stated reason why he wanted to go the injection route.

Yup, I understand all this, I just don't know why they'd need to go through all the trouble of collecting/purifying the girls virus when they could just as easily make up a poison and claim that was a cure. 99% of the mutants are vulnerable to regular human toxins so why get so elaborate? I think the "Mohinder injection" was just some common poison.

 

[Boone22]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Was she?

I agreewith this. I may have missed this but who/where exactly did someone mention that Mohinder's sister was a mutant? All I remember is that she dies of the virus that her father and Mohinder were trying to cure. Did someone say definitely that she had a power?

 

[Gamblor]

So I wonder if we find out Mohinder's power in the season finale.

He has no power.

Interesting. It sure seemed like all the mutants were children of other mutants. Mohinder's sister was a mutant, I don't think we've seen a case where one sibling was a mutant and the other was not.

Was she?

I agreewith this. I may have missed this but who/where exactly did someone mention that Mohinder's sister was a mutant? All I remember is that she dies of the virus that her father and Mohinder were trying to cure. Did someone say definitely that she had a power?

In the early episodes it was mentioned that she had a "genertic anomoly", no specific power. Her death was one of the reasons Suresh started his research I believe.

 

[The Noid]

What if his sister was really.....the smoke monster!!

 

[iamsmilin]

So HRG, Parker, and Ted are actually going to kill the little girl, only they don't know it's a person. Kinda like the comic book with Linderman as a soldier.

Also, I was not impressed with the Mom storyline.

 

[strykerpks]

Maybe I'm dumb, but what is the signigicance of Sylar breaking Hiro's sword? They made such a big deal about him retrieving it (as well as still having posession of it in the future). Did I miss something?

 

[Drifter]

Maybe I'm dumb, but what is the signigicance of Sylar breaking Hiro's sword? They made such a big deal about him retrieving it (as well as still having posession of it in the future). Did I miss something?

I'm not saying this is what I think it is, but one possible explanation is that when Hiro was in the future, Mohindar gave him future Hiro's sword - not Hiro's sword. If you go with the premise that every item and person has their own individual timeline, the breaking of the future-Hiro sword could occur because it already exists later in its own timeline so by breaking it is not disrupting anything in the older timeline.. Hiro must now retrieve his original sword.

 

[EYLive]

Is anyone else having problems watching past episodes on NBC.com?

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episo...heroes_01.shtml

I'm getting an error message and an endless loop of commercials.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I find Linderman's whole plan that was revealed this week pretty interesting. In the "War Buddies" comic they show how broken up Linderman was over Father Patrelli's decision to kill the Vietnam girl who had powers. Petrelli explains that while Linderman can only heal one person at a time, by killing the girl they will save thousands of Americans. Linderman then comes back years later to Petrelli and says he finally understands what he was trying to do. They then go into business together (or something of that capacity).

I think it's obvious that Patrelli caught wind of Linderman's utilitarian plan to blow up New York and either A) killed himself over the guilt of knowing he couldn't stop it and was the one who planted the concept in his head or B) was killed for knowing too much. (I know they said he committed suicide but I'm not so sure)

As for this week, I'll echo that is was rather weak as a stand alone ep, but it sets the stage nicely for the big ending.

It did confirm that Mama Patrelli is one of Lindeman's old allies he spoke of. And I just had this thought, especially with the tough decisions speech she gave. She killed Papa Patrelli somehow, or was complicit in his death. Papa was one of the allies that "turned against" Lindeman's plans, and he had to go. It just fits too well with that speech as something to find out later.

And it seems that HRG, Parkman, and Ted were in NY to get Molly (The new locator system). I think there is more to it than that, but we might have to wait until next year for it.

That was my speculation after reading the War Buddies storyline in the online novel a while back. I think anyone could have killed him, but now that it seems that Mama Patrelli is tied to Linderman she definitely would have known about it.Although, there is the chance that it wasn't her giving that speech and it really was Candice like others have suggested which is possible since she's in New York. However, I'm really doubting that theory since Candice was fairly busy with Mica (who is integral to the plan) and because Mama Patrelli has already made a "speech" to Nathan and Peter a previous episode where she continuously implies that she knows much more than she has led on and is somehow connected to the company.

 

[iamsmilin]

Even the comic novel featuring Nikki is boring. I really hope they do something with her character for next season.

Just wanted to that out there.